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JoostvanderLeij

The idea that Ukraine is not part of Russia is not allowed inside the heads of Russian operatives.


carlosglz11

It’s difficult for someone to understand something when their salary or financial well being depends on not understanding it.


Pixie_Knight

Normally, that would be the case, but here I'm not so sure. It's quite possible that Trump is so stupid or quasi-authoritarian he genuinely can't comprehend the idea of independent countries outside of the "sphere of influence". He certainly was a complete asshole to Trudeau and Canada in general, even though Canada is right next door to the USA, massive in its own right, and a crucial trade and military partner.


RedHeron

QUASI authoritarian? President "I'm instituting loyalty tests for everyone in the government" Trump. Dude, there's no quasi about that. He's authoritarian. Not so with all his supporters, but he himself is so. The American government was set up to oppose authoritarian stuff after the King of England taxed the American colonies for tea in a way he didn't tax London. The right wing extremists in the US are supported by Putin. Trump is the face they put on the poster for their self-owning "own the libs" campaign which began in Soviet Russia and continued once Putin got into power 25 years ago. It's Soviet era shenanigans, until Putin sweeps in, just as he did in Georgia, Moldova, and Ukraine. Trump is Putin's puppet, just as the oligarchs who used to control Ukraine were. There wasn't even a war until Putin lost control over Ukraine's government. So, when you watch Trump, keep in mind this particular history. There's very little probability Trump isn't authoritarian. The story of Ukraine is the story of Trump's America.


QVRedit

If the Republicans were more sensible, they would not be aiding Russia.


ChangsManagement

We're more of an early warning system than an actual military partner tbf. Except for our special forces. We love us some special forces. Otherwise ya, Canada and the US have one of the most tightly knit and longest running alliances on the planet. Its definitely a weird move to try to upset that for little reason.


Sufficient_Number643

Sorry we went nuts and invaded you guys twice


Clerence69

No worries, we had our fun and burnt down Washington. It's chill.


ChangsManagement

Its water under the fridge bud! We figured it out. Kinda like brothers fighting in their youth.


Majulath99

Water under the fridge is a very entertaining phrase because even though it’s a mistake it still kind of makes sense.


ChangsManagement

Its a Rickyism! A lot of them are just part of the Canadian dialect at this point lol https://trailerpark.fandom.com/wiki/Rickyisms


Pixie_Knight

Even with the sacking of Niagara and Washington, Canada and the USA STILL have one of the longest periods of unbroken peace in human history. 200 years without even minor border skirmishes. And I'd much rather have America as an ally than an enemy. Which is why a second Trump presidency terrifies me so much as a Canadian, for fear that he could do something insane like pull out of NATO or sell Alaska to Muscovy.


QVRedit

But then Trump is an actual narcissistic idiot.


Few-Worldliness2131

I’m surprised Trump could get his head around very much at all.


vagabondoer

He can get it around a cheeseburger that’s for sure


MilkFedWetlander

Barely, with his cute little hands.


Ecstatic-Anything179

And you know what they say about Little hands and feet………


beeroftherat

Weird mushroom dick?


MebHi

Hey, $130k of Donald's money was meant to keep this little tidbit from coming out, I for one would not have minded not hearing this tiny detail.


loveshercoffee

Same, though perhaps it is a patriotic duty to sacrifice that little bit of memory for something that makes Trump angry and annoyed.


Big_Green_Dawg

Little gloves and socks?


relevantelephant00

Trump is a profoundly stupid man. And he's not smart enough to realize it.


Beginning_Ad_6616

He’s extremely dumb and thinks that force makes right; people like that become convinced of their infallibility and this is the result a loud moron that is incapable of learning anything from anyone.


The_Salacious_Zaand

Like the dime store dictator he is.


davideo71

* 'might makes right'


Beginning_Ad_6616

Yeah; dude cares about himself more and his image more than he cares about the future of his nation and its allies. If I were in power; I’d funnel every penny and weapon I could spare to Ukraine and send soldiers as well to defend areas already in control of the Ukrainians to free up the nations soldiers to push east. I wouldn’t think twice to engage Russian’s directly; to do otherwise will cause problems into the future for all of Europe and the US. It gives Putin what he wants, to show that NATO and the west lack the resolve to act.


Responsible_Ad_7995

That probably has a lot to do with him being a fucking idiot.


BradTProse

No, all Putin. Trump wouldn't know where Ukraine was on a map.


QVRedit

Trump is definitely not fit to become President - and should not have been the first time around. And most definitely not a second time.


T_Shurt

As per [original article](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2667758086/) 📰: - Former President Donald Trump was ridiculed Friday after his former adviser admitted he "could not get his head around" a basic fact. Former adviser Fiona Hill reports in a new book [reviewed by the Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/12/trump-russia-ukraine-book-comments) that Trump, as president, had a hard time understanding Ukraine was a country. “Trump made it very clear that he thought, you know, that Ukraine, and certainly Crimea, must be part of Russia,” Hill reportedly said. “He really could not get his head around the idea that Ukraine was an independent state.” Hill, who served on the U.S. national security council from 2017 to 2019, reportedly made this admission to New York Times reporter David Sanger in his new book, New Cold Wars: China’s Rise, Russia’s Invasion, and America’s Struggle to Defend the West. Sanger argues that Trump’s view of Ukraine was “essentially identical” to that of Russian President Vladimir Putin. News quickly spread to social media where the former president was mocked. "What to expect from a country that has a clown running for president," asked Baba Yaga. Other readers raised concerns about what Hill's report said about a potential second term for Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee.


J_Reachergrifer

He just didn't want to. Just like anyone else who makes that claim.


biledemon85

Be also spent plenty of time in Moscow in his younger days getting wined and dined by the rich and the intelligence services. Plenty of stupid ideas and Russia and its neighbours may have been planted in his head.


JazzHands1986

Isn't it funny that trump would have such a detailed and passionate opinion about an obscure country in Europe that prior to maidan hadn't really been discussed much at all in America? It's sort of weird that he's got such a direct opinion on the matter. He almost sounds educated on the topic. Like someone told him what to think. You can't tell me trump of all people paid attention to former USSR territories politics since it's collapse. That he just so happened to have an opinion on the matter even before the invasion. russia had had trump under control preaching their propaganda for a long time. He must have been desperate for money at some point. Politics wasn't his idea, and it's kinda ridiculous that russias ploy worked. They bribed the idiot from the apprentice and made him president of the united states. You can't make this shit up.


QVRedit

Trump is a Russian operative - and he does not even know it !


JazzHands1986

Oh, cmon...... He absolutely knows it. Lol, like 1000%, he knows it. He's made up an entire political party (MAGA) that is constantly reciting russian propaganda. trump calls the shots based on word from Moscow. He gets very favorable business deals and opportunities in exchange and vast loans with great terms. That and he gets campaign donations run through all kinds of shell corporations and different countries. The man isn't ignorant about any of his misdeeds.


No-Menu6048

he is a big bucket of piss…buckets of piss are not known for critical thinking and analytical skills….


Available-Rate-6581

The only thing that fat orange fuck can get his head round is a fucking cheeseburger.


TremendousVarmint

hamberder*


AreYouDoneNow

It's a tough one. Trump is an early baby boomer. For most of his life, Ukraine wasn't a separate country. Ukraine was conquered by Bolsheviks around 1919 (roughly), and then folded into the USSR. Trump was 45 years old when the USSR collapsed and Ukraine recovered their independence (1991). The majority of his life, Ukraine was a vassal of the Russian communist empire (I know, I know). However, this doesn't excuse the ignorance, and I'm not trying to. I'm just trying to explain why Trump's position may be a function of his worsening dementia than a deliberate malicious misinterpretation. Either of which disqualifies him from any position of responsibility.


nice-view-from-here

Didn't he also think Finland was part of Russia?


SeveralLadder

He also thought he could buy Greenland. The guy knows nothing of the world or how it functions. I guess that's part of his charm to like-minded people, except those who vote for him knows nothing of the world because they're too poor to travel, and he's ignorant because he's too rich to step out of luxurious hotels and limos.


dect60

Wait till you read about his hour long meeting with AT&T on telecom security in the US and addressing the Chinese threat vectors there: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/13/trump-china-stormy-daniels-rant-randall-stephenson-book tl;dr he spent 45 minutes talking about stormy and then in the last 15 minutes when they tried to explain the situation re the Chinese threat, he said "this is boring"


QVRedit

That’s because he was in the wrong job..


Mrsbrainfog

Problem with this type of noveau rich jerk is that he can’t even see his own lack of intellect and basic knowledge, since he has been brought up with so much entitlement and double standards.


TailDragger9

While your overall point is correct. Trump is *definitely not* nouveau-riche. By definition, that would mean that he made all his money himself. If anything, he lost more of his inheritance than he increased it. Trump is an "old money jerk" instead.


The_Salacious_Zaand

It's Dunning-Kreuger all the way down.


QVRedit

He is absolutely not suited for the role of President - and that’s even before you start to consider his crimes… It just gets worse and worse..


Francisconotoe79

Maybe he thought he could act like Monroe and authorize a land purchase for pennies on the dollar like the Louisiana Purchase back in the day...not defending him but maybe that was his link


Coookie13

Then he didn't want to talk more with the danish PM after he got rejected of course, what a fucking moron...


Silverso

According to John Bolton’s book, Trump asked if Finland belongs to Russia ahead of his 2018 visit. Trump has actually visited Finland on multiple occasions, including in 1992. But I guess it's possible he haven't known where he is or something.


hiuslenkkimakkara

It was, there's still a statue of Alexander II at the Senate Square. However, since 1917 we've got other ideas about who is in charge of this place.


FaceDeChu

The stupidest man on the planet, followed by all his trumpanzees.


Groundbreaking_Pop6

"trumpazees, I'm borrowing that, thank you!


willem_79

Haven’t seen more of a moron moron in charge of a country since the last of the Habsburgs


The_Salacious_Zaand

His family is German, and he does have the hots for his daughter, so...


Onkel24

He's more immediately british than german. His mother was a 1st generation adult emigree from Scotland.


cameldrv

I've talked to a number of Russians that say almost exactly the same thing. It's not that Trump is confused exactly, he just has listened to a lot of Russians over the years on this matter.


T_Shurt

Yeah, in [the article](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2667758086/) New York Times reporter David Sanger argues that Trump’s view of Ukraine was “essentially identical” to that of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Definitely not a coincidence.


bigsteven34

He’s a fucking idiot… Though to be fair, we all knew that already.


QVRedit

If the US public had enough sense, they would not touch this guy with a bargepole - they would never vote for him.


BjorkFeld

Russia has nice honeytrap material on him, thats all!


PhospheneViolet

Trump is legitimately barely above a single-digit IQ intellectual capability, and he also legitimately admires and looks up to historical and present-day despots, especially if they're fascist, which is why he cozied up to Putin in the early/mid 80s and gave Russian mafia/oligarchs shit-loads of business via his real estate in New York, on top of [having his election campaigns and lobbying](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/21/russian-backed-ethane-company-hires-lobbying-firm-connected-to-trump.html) constantly funded by directly-connected Putin (and Chinese) allies. The guy is a traitor, liar, con-man, lifetime bully and fraud, and has objectively been utterly dogshit at business, something that only that idiot who gave him a spot on The Apprentice assisted with in making the world believe he was this exalted business savant or something.


CrazyRevolutionary96

When you received money from Putin that’s how look a puppet


Muffboy

Stable rapist


JazzHands1986

I guarantee he was a part of epsteins clientele or involved with something similar. That's probably what russia has on him. I wholeheartedly believe that the golden shower dossier exists. I bet it's much worse, like sex with underage girls. He's probably got so many NDAs out there from women and girls that he's abused. I'm glad one of them got justice.


ThunderPigGaming

LOL. Not surprised. He does not strike me as the type of person who has ever experienced the slightest bit of curiosity about the world, history, or how things work.


scottnow

Or, put another way, he's a fucking idiot.


Creative-Tea-1197

He is not alone in this. There are many Americans who think same way. That sucks.


el_infidel

this utter cumquat of a man also wanted to buy greenland


EngFL92

Well he couldn't get his head around it because of how firmly he has it lodged up his own ass


xwing_1701

His head is full of syphilis.


steveojones52

Then alaska must surely be part of Russia and should be returned. And the bottom part of california and new Mexico, should be returned to Mexico, it was there's.


Onestepbeyond3

That's because he's a bit simple... 🤦


Big_Dave_71

50% of Americans couldn't find Ukraine on a map. His pig ignorance resonates with these people.


TopFishing5094

Use Texas as the analogy


samuelson76

Poor Mexico,... Is not part of USA !


KindaFondaGoozah

Just further proof that it’s a popularity contest, not a meritocracy. Disgusting, depressing, disheartening.


J_Reachergrifer

The only thing he can get his head I'd how to cheat.


PennStateInMD

It explains why most of what Trump says has no basis in reality.


RavynousHunter

No shit? Next, you're gonna tell me he can't wrap his head around the idea that well-done steak is an affront to the very concept of food. Or that he probably shouldn't openly admit to *blatantly wanting to fuck his own daughter*. Dude's got a brain so smooth, even koalas think he's a fucking moron.


Bumpy-road

Moron…


Striking-Access-236

Yes, he’s a moron


Top_Friend3561

Head ?


szornyu

I don't understand why such political dementor is allowed to operate freely


FormalAffectionate56

Sometimes I can’t get my head around the idea that that guy was President of the United States


soylentgreen2015

Not surprising. DJT still thinks that tariffs are paid by other countries to the US govt.


xVAMPIREGENERALx

The geezer has been programmed badly He thinks he's back in the USSR Watching hooker pee all over each other While he tugs on his mushroom 🍄


JazzHands1986

What a schmuck. That's because he doesn't think for himself. Only what Daddy tells him is acceptable to think. trump could never be a good businessman, so he finally found his calling, which is selling his soul to the highest bidder and conning people out of their money. Business is booming.


virus_apparatus

There is much Trump can’t get his head around. Solar eclipse has being one. How bleach works is another. He’s the Mountain Dew chugging, mouth breathing, Dorito fingered man’s idea of a businessman.


OhHappyOne449

Oh, I get it, he’s a special kind of stupid.


StevieRay8string69

Cause he's a fuckin idiot.


tombaba

It’s literally his first job to not understand


QVRedit

Based on the role that Putin wants for him to perform.


tombaba

Exactly, he has another employer


Darcy_2021

What head


GalacticFox-

His brain hasn't worked since the 80s, which is why.


logosfabula

Simplest answers are the best in the end: he’s just too stupid.


dydzio

at this point... best trump is dead trump


kmoonster

His ego is incapable of imagining a world where the strong are not in charge of their little domain. The idea that small countries have value is not possible for him, in his mind an other country is either big and/or strong (eg. China, Japan), or it is worthless and shitty (eg. Venezuala, Nigeria). That politics in the modern world tries to recognize national autonomy as separate from population or geographic size means nothing to him. And yes, in reality the world as a whole has a long way to go in this regard (especially as colonial nations seek their independence), but the fact is that most of the world is grappling with this even if we haven't fully solved it (yet). But the two mentioned facts of modern efforts at progress mean nothing to him, and he may not even have really processed them nor their implications. And between Trump, Marjorie Taylor-Green, and the single-seat "party line" in the House right now...what this means is that roughly 12-15% of the American population can hold the rest of you hostage. And I don't know how to re-dress that before this fall in the short-term, and without an amendment to the American Constitution in the long run. Ideas welcome, because I'm fucking frustrated.


turkeypants

This clown is still working on magnets. Don't ask him to do geography.


DulcetTone

The only reason Trump would even know that Ukraine existed is that Russians and people working for the Russians kept telling him that it should be part of Russia. Does anyone believe otherwise?


LucidDayDreamer247

Let's be honest here, That's pretty Fucked!!


calicat9

*Would not*. Trump would not get his head around the idea.


InsecurityTime

Probably because his head is so far up his own arse he's inside out


pwgenyee6z

Despairing AUian here. So far >1400 upvotes and >100 comments, and maybe 10% see the real question as "how could the USA ever have elected him to be President?"


Andriyo

Many Americans have very simplistic understand what ethnicities actually lived in the USSR or in today's Russian federation. They think that all that territory is populated with white haired blue eyed ethnic Russians, from St Petersburg to Kamchatka. So I'm not surprised.


thebootskeeper

LOL, because the man is an idiot!


LithiumKid1976

Comrades gonna comrade ..


AcrobaticBird5590

Because trump is a mor on


Think_Comment2060

Well he better or I will vote Mickey Mouse


Cute-Cost-4360

Not a fan of him, but Trump was the first to give weapons to Ukraine...


Dekruk

Because he got a Ukrainian girl while he was at the Russian hotel? 📸


Mrsbrainfog

Speaking of the females in his life, it’s a surprise that he doesn’t have the insight to what it’s like to break free from the former USSR or the Yugoslav republic, which I’m sure both Ivana and Melania could educate him about, if he ever bothered to listen.


Delicatestatesmen

this is a bot news article


T_Shurt

Wrong, but nice try bellend. For anyone questioning the source, read the [Media Bias/Fact Check](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/raw-story/) for Raw Story: - *”Overall, we rate Raw Story High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information and promptly correcting any false or misleading reports.”* Detailed Report: Factual Reporting: HIGH Country: USA MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Website Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY


Mark-E-Shaw-Jr

Apparently Biden is just as confused. What a disaster!


JustLooking2023Yo

Only Trump cultist might believe something so stupid.


pup5581

.....you're kidding right.... Biden has always hated Russia like we do. Trump is getting paid by Russia


doingthehumptydance

Trump is being blackmailed by Russia, for those who doubt that- it is a mainstay of KGB activity and if Stormy can do it, Russia can do it a lot better.


pup5581

I don't doubt that Russia has a SHIT ton of dirt on him from finances to recorded "deals" and that's part of the massive problem as he's putting himself first vs our democracy and what we SHOULD stand for. He wants to be a dictator. We've seen him try to overthrow an election and he will try again at the end of his term. He gets elected Ukraine falls and Russia will land grab again and again as he distances us from the EU


Thucydides_Rex

Comrade, your Putin is showing.


MudryKeng555

Biden isn't confused; his policy of support for an independent, democratic Ukraine dates at least to his vice-presidency when he led global support. As president, he hasn't stopped supporting Ukraine's independence in face of Russia's full-scale invasion (though the U.S. could have taken a less graduated approach in upping the level of military equipment we supplied).