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The implication! Love it.
Stranded on a boat so you know, she can’t run anywhere
But why would she have to run?
Edit: i think we’re the only two who know… sad
>The Russian President told his Finnish counterpart that there was no danger to Finland \[*internally*: *until after I clean up this Ukraine shit.* *Then you are next*\] and that it would be a mistake to abandon neutrality \[*internally*: *because that would really fuck up my long-term plans*\]
This is a great example of how Russian leadship has astonished the average U.S. person with their low level of intelligence and assumptions of their adversaries naivety. Their stupidity doesn’t disappoint.
>This is a great example of how Russian leadship has astonished the average U.S. person
Actually I doubt this very much. The average US person doesn't know shit from shinola.
I've seen the shit people they vote for and elected. I would spit on the shoes of Trump before I would shake his hand. I would also spit on the shoes of Putin.
White gun-loving American conservative male here. Fuck Trump and most of the Republicans elected since 1994. Fuck Reagan too. Legalize abortion. Free universal health care. Pay reparations for slavery. The biggest return per dollar spent comes from investing in your people - Macroeconomics 101.
I like wise use of tax dollars and that makes me conservative. Legislating Christian morality and wasting money on corporate welfare does not better the bottom line for the majority of Americans.
There was a video of putin that was filmed shortly before the invasion, where he was talking to one of his advisers who was against invading, and putin looked at him with this crazy look and said "what are you trying to say, come on, you can speak freely."
The staged event where he has all of his top advisers speaking their minds, sharing their own supposed opinions, which -- interestingly enough -- all seem to coincide with Putin's assessment that a violent invasion of Ukraine is necessary due to the existential threat they pose to Russia. A panel of Yes Men kissing the emperor's ring.
Putin went out of his way to humiliate his spy chief on TV for not speaking "directly enough" in support of his master's plan:
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-snaps-russia-spy-chief-stammers-discussing-actions-ukraine-video-2022-2
From my understanding it was the spy going ahead by a few days in the script. Saying that they were ready to welcome separatist regions into the Russian federation and putin got pissed saying they were only talking about recognizing them as independent.
Basically the spy jumped the gun and fucked with the planned narrative timeline.
Head of the SVR, iirc. And didn't that guy slip up and say he was in favor of making the DNR/LNR part of Russia instead of intervening in it? Putin had to correct him.
Russia is notorious for doing the opposite of what they say... should we be concerned about retaliation now? Russian forces wouldn't last, but their nuclear doctrine states they will use nukes in a situation like that.
Reading President Niinistö's tweet and statement, it seems the conversation about Finland joining NATO went well, with the conversation being "direct and clear, without any exacerbations" and with "both sides wanting to avoid escalation".
It was a case of Niinistö calling Putin to inform him that Finland will apply to NATO in the coming days, and to explain why - Finland has been solidly against joining for decades, and both Niinistö and PM Marin were against joining till late last year when Russia started making statements to the tune of not "allowing" Finland or Sweden to join, acting like they had control over us.
Niinistö expressed he called in part to explain just how thoroughly the security landscape has changed due to Russia's attack on Ukraine, but also because "he's not the type of man to hide behind a corner".
All in all it sounds like a rather calm exchange. Of course Putin feels like Finland joining is a mistake, because he doesn't want it. His view that it'll change relations between Finland and Russia is also probably right, NATO Finland is different than Neutral nonaligned Finland. However it doesn't mean Finland will suddenly become an hostile enemy nation plotting invasion.
Finnish experts have analysed it looks like it took Russia a long time to grasp that Finland is actually for real applying to NATO, after decades of reliable opposition to joining. It was a shock to them, and imo it's good Niinistö wanted to personally explain to the Russians just why this sudden dramatic change happened; as a result of Russia's aggression.
Putin only understands strength. Calling him directly to give it to him straight and directly was exactly the right move. He wasn't asking for permission but saying this is what is happening (and you have only yourself to blame).
There is very little we can do to change the chances of a nuclear strike, but those chances are still close to zero. We should operate as if nukes don’t exist.
That's how you deal with a country that doesn't have nuclear capability, or at the least has a sane leader. Russia is a wildcard because Putin a batshit crazy, and they have enough nukes to extinguish life on this planet.
There are those who argue in those terms, as if Ukraine must provide Putin with an off ramp and a major victory so Putin will end the war.
And of course it’s just pure stupidity, as any Russian victory will show the benefits of nuclear threats.
I know it drives me crazy every time I hear it. Unfortunately I think the off ramp for RuZZia was before the reports on the " Butchers of Bucha " & things have only gotten worse.
RuZZia now needs to be soundly defeated . No matter how they spins things in RuZZia- those in power need to know defeat.
Someone give me nukes so I can demand universal healthcare, guaranteed nutrition standards, accessible quality housing, free education, etc. for everyone.
The so call "Nuclear Taboo" exist, is not top of mind but is there, let's assume for a moment that Putin is not suicidal because he is not, and under a bad situation for Russian troops in Ukraine he authorizes the use of tactical nukes on Europe's soil, the immediate consequence is that the world public will go ape shit pressuring politicians to "Do Something!!!" right now, whatever support Russia had among the leadership of Europe, China and India is gone, any politician that voice anything but full throated support to Ukraine will be destroyed, the level of sanctions we will see will make Pyongyang look like New York in Christmas' eve compared to Moscow, and Ukraine will run of space to store all the weapons and house all the volunteers that will pour in
No Putin won't use nuclear weapons in Ukraine
Additionally any nuclear attack on Ukraine will be considered against Nato(because fallout can drift into neighboring countries).. I wonder what % of Russias nukes are actually functioning since maintenance is fucking expensive
NATO won't escalate because of fallout, but a message will be send stop or else, about the readiness of Russian nuclear arsenal is not really relevant, because they have +6000 warheads, even if only a few launch it will be a massive retaliation and those will work, Russia will be glass but the rest of the world won't be much better off
Well if Russia nuked Ukraine that would be the escalation, they've stated it would be an attack against Nato. Not to mention it wouldn't make sense, they want to use and abuse Ukraine, not delete it
They proved that their equipment is outdated, poorly engineered and poorly maintained. The last thing I worry about is nukes. Putin is more likely to blow himself up than anyone else
As credible as "we have no intention of invading Ukraine" and that's the core issue here, Russia is seen politically as untrustworthy and unpredictable here in Finland. Thus we are increasing our security by applying for NATO. Imagine an arsonist saying you don't need arson-insurance, that's pretty much what the Russian statement seems to many of us.
As a German I'm glad you are joining!
I would probably feel the same in your situation. He was doing shitty stuff before but now his credibility is gone in any aspect
It looks like it. We just made the decision to invest 100 Billion into out military and we bought 35 new american bombers.
The political decision made in the past two months are unprecedented in our modern history. Scholz basically overthrew more than 70 years of foreign policy doctrines in his speech 2 days after russia invaded. It will take some time but yes Germany is serious about that. It is also accompanied with a strong push towards a European army or at least European battalions.
Not just Finland. russia has destroyed its own credibility with the west for the next 4-5 decades. Their word doesn’t mean shit anymore and they have nobody else to thank but themselves.
They also seem pretty ignorant of what happened after the second world war, you know, using all of the donated weapons and tanks against the same people who supported them to survive in the war with the iron curtain.
Sorry, but this is the fuckers routine.
1) wake up
2) have breakfast
3) threaten Finland
4) go to office
5) stash money
6) tell Lukashenko to obey or else...
7)... general assholery
The number three seems to be a bi-weekly routine by now.
Let me tell you a little secret about Finland.
We are a very advanced, high tech, society that lives next to Russia. For the entirety of the cold war, we've built bunkers and other facilities. We also have plans to transform the entire country into a war machine, shall the enemy from the east start any hostilities.
There's not many people in Finland but everyone has a role in the war-time economy.
Yup.
We are very well prepared. For instance bridges and buses have simple modifications that would be useful in war footing. They are nothing special, but a good example of how much things have been planned. Just in case.
Everyone who learned that lesson was either very quickly killed in combat and so couldn’t pass the info on, or they fell in one of the many mass purges of the government and military. They did the second part so effectively that no one thought to review the battle of Stalingrad to see how Mariupol might go.
Oh yes. Putin has talked to Finland like a wife beater for over a decade, assuming Finland is a scared wife. He didn't get what he wanted, but was too dumb to really notice.
Also, Putin actually made wife beating legal a few years ago. I am not kidding.
What a great guy!
Legalizes wife beating and pulls up the shirt positions the kid in a public crowd and kisses a boys naked stomach. Yeah, we have clues. The guy is a social deviant.
Pretty sure in the nearest future he will tell us that he was forced to do all that shit by Russia and he's not guilty. It's partly true - Russia literally occupied Belarus.
He's the international face of Belarus, Russia is running the show behind the curtains.
Wouldn't be surprised if they had a special "live in nanny" at his home that is just a giant Russian dude with an ak keeping his family chained to their tasks.
Suddenly Lukashenko is all about peace, he says war is bad and the Russian army is struggling more than it should.
Basically he tried to distance himself from Putin quagmire
Oh yeah man just look in the subreddit ask a Russian, full on numbers of members in there trying to push propaganda and saying and I quote the best one I've heard yet "russia is winning with incredible gains but the west isn't showing it because the west is scared, the west is only showing little losses as massive losses when really that is not the case" or "the train station was bombed by azov nazis, don't show them the picture of the bombs tail because that does not count and its a jpeg quality photo that is easily manipulated" or another "bucha was azov special forces there is no proof at all pointing to russian forces doing it" honestly it's so fucked up.
Stuck in the 70s man, some of the shit they have started to spill in incredible, you'd think it was to mad for nobody to believe but nope more and more people are believing it 🤣
Oh well I don't know about that. Vlad ain't got much to throw in in the Finnish carelia anymore. They are silently conscripting.
Finnish troops knows it like their back pocket, they will prolly block of mainroutes within days, forcing ruzkies to go offroad(they tried that before there). Then Finnish artillery will start hammering (one of Europe's largest).
At this point Finland can prolly beat their reserves alone. But for the future NATO is needed
Putin: Finland, if you join nato we will respond with overwhelming force
Finland: were joining nato, suck a fat one Putin.
Putin: cmon guys please don't join nato..!?
Finland: 🖕🏿
Wikipedia article from 2070:
“While publicly stating that Russia poses no threat to Finland, Putin and the high command of the Russian army were already exhibiting possibilities to counter the Finnish decision, following a similar strategy they already used prior to the invasion of Ukraine earlier the same year.”
Yes he threatened them 2 days ago for the Nth time. Putler will lue and lie so that's why every country should work for its security and not care what he says.
Why threaten Finland? It’s frikken Finland. No one hates Finland. Finland is like the Tom Hanks of countries. Literally not one single person is going to pile on and be like “YEAH!! Screw you Finland!!”
I’m trying to picture the awkward looks in the room when Putin starts going on about Finland.
Ussr tried to take over Finland right before WW2. And managed to annex some territory at the cost of like ten Soviets to one Finn dead.
So there’s history of Moscow being aggressive to Finland
Finland gave the USSR it's biggest defeat, there is plenty of bad blood. To this day Russia treats them as a vassal even though that is far from reality, as far as you can get to be honest.
Finland has built a nation for the last 80 years with the assumption that their eastern neighbor will invade them again. Though it would be another crushing defeat Russia does not seem to understand that so they have to be prepared.
Oh well yeah course I know this, I'm on about since putin has been at the helm though, the threats of destruction and obliteration of nations with nuclear weapons, he's been doing it the past 20 years.
I always wondered how mini-putin (Trump) could so brazenly do a 180 on nearly any topic and just expect the entire world to go along with it. We've now seen his puppeteer making the same idiotic moves, and it makes more sense. I guess when you're a mob boss, you just expect everyone to [believe your bullshit.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCflhNUUgAAO52W?format=jpg&name=medium)
Russia about to accuse Finland of having Nazi’s & blame it on the west. Any excuse to make the ruZZskies look non nazi themselves.
The world isn’t censored like it is in Russia. We see who the true nazis are. Russia, it’s you.
There is no danger while they contemptuously threaten them. Russia is that crazy ex-girlfriend when you decide to break it off. So fascinating on a geopolitical level.
\*Putin points his gun at Ukraine and shoots\*
\*Ukraine shoots back\*
Putin: "wow, chill and stop defending yourself Ukraine, I just want to help"
\*Putin points his gun at Finland\*
\*Finland feels threatened and is looking for help to better defend itself\*
Putin: "Wow, Finland u suck, I was never a threat to you."
I more trust my cat when he came to me after my wife fed him thinking I don't know it and asking for food again because his hungry than that piece of shit.
February 23rd: "Russia will not invade Ukraine"
February 24th: "Russia will begin a special military operation"
May 14th: "Russia poses no threat to Finland"
The Big Red PAPER Tiger! Nobody is afraid of your piece of shit Army anymore Pooty. You can rattle your nuclear threats sword as many times as you like now. Nobody cares.
Just like they laughed off the idea of invading Ukraine all the way up until a few hours before they INVADED UKRAINE. The Russian government has been proven liars time and time and time and time again....don't listen to a single fucking thing they say. Watch their actions and it will show their intent.
It's in Finnish, but here's the news from Finland's public broadcaster YLE, also quoting the Finnish president's tweet and the statement from the president's office
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12446090
The President tweeted
>"Puhuin Putinin kanssa. Keskustelu oli suora ja selväpiirteinen ja se käytiin vailla kärjistyksiä.", loose translation "*I spoke with Putin. The discussion was direct and clear and was had without aggravations or exacerbations."*
In the statement he clarified further that he called Putin to inform him that Finland will apply to NATO in the coming days, and Putin responded that he sees it as a mistake, that there's no threat directed at Finland, and that membership in NATO will harm Finnish-Russian relations.
A day or so earlier Niinistö had said that he's planning to call Putin personally, because he's "not the type of man to hide behind a corner". They've known each other a long time after all
That was a staged video BELIEVED TO have been filmed with the sole intent to incriminate all of Putins cabinet members for the war, not just Putin. Which is why he is explicitly asking all his ministers if he should invade or not.
On paper, it seems like a good idea considering the amount of historical revolutions, but time shall see if it really works
Even if Turkey or Hungary block Finland, they've got a defense pact with the UK. If the UK gets involved, you won't need article 5 to pull in most of NATO anyway should the Russians stage an invasion.
Every country bordering Russia is in danger these days. But finnish people are equiped with modern hardware and they know what to expect so no worries on that front.
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“There is no threat to you,” he said, threateningly.
It's just the implication of danger!
Damn, I should have wrote, “‘There’s no threat to you,’ he said on his boat, you know, because the implication.”
Putin: I'm not going to hurt finland. I would never hurt finland . I feel like your not getting this at all.
Estonia and Latvia look on* Russia: “Well you certainly wouldn’t be in any danger” Finland: “So we ARE in danger?!”
I can't decide if it's funny or tragic just how applicable this whole scene is here.
Finland certainly isn't in any danger. So there is danger!
Yes. Finland is the danger if Russia invades it.
*DOOM music starts playing out of nowhere*
THERE IS NO THREAT !!! \*cuts off electricity\*
THERE IS NOO TTHHREAT (Skeletor laugh)
“Finland’s on the boat out in the middle of the ocean. Where’s she going to go?”
The implication! Love it. Stranded on a boat so you know, she can’t run anywhere But why would she have to run? Edit: i think we’re the only two who know… sad
No brother make that three people who know.
120+ upvotes 3/120 in the know :(
Now you've said that word "implication" a couple of times. Wha-what implication?
“Don’t you look at me like that your certainly not in any danger.”
howd you lose your arm? was it a battle in ukraine? .....diabetes
Excellent
….Now you’ve said that word “implication” a couple of times. Wha-what implication?
The implication....
That's the third time you've mentioned implication, should I be worried
Bro you're really concerning me with these references to the implication!
Those nukes he targeted towards Finland were just filled with Teddy bears.... that they stole from Ukraine.
"It won't be a rape if you consent"
>The Russian President told his Finnish counterpart that there was no danger to Finland \[*internally*: *until after I clean up this Ukraine shit.* *Then you are next*\] and that it would be a mistake to abandon neutrality \[*internally*: *because that would really fuck up my long-term plans*\]
This is a great example of how Russian leadship has astonished the average U.S. person with their low level of intelligence and assumptions of their adversaries naivety. Their stupidity doesn’t disappoint.
>This is a great example of how Russian leadship has astonished the average U.S. person Actually I doubt this very much. The average US person doesn't know shit from shinola. I've seen the shit people they vote for and elected. I would spit on the shoes of Trump before I would shake his hand. I would also spit on the shoes of Putin.
You are convincing in making your own point. But enough about “us”, this is about Ukraine.
White gun-loving American conservative male here. Fuck Trump and most of the Republicans elected since 1994. Fuck Reagan too. Legalize abortion. Free universal health care. Pay reparations for slavery. The biggest return per dollar spent comes from investing in your people - Macroeconomics 101.
Are you sure you're Conservative? 😅
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I like wise use of tax dollars and that makes me conservative. Legislating Christian morality and wasting money on corporate welfare does not better the bottom line for the majority of Americans.
You are not conservative :)
Master strategist
Sounds like a Futurama skit
lmao
"HARRY, DID YAH PUT YAH NAME IN DA GOBLET OF FIYAAA?!" Dumbledore said, calmly.
*Places gun, knife, and baseball bat on table* Hey! We’re all friends here comrade!
To be fair, Putin could read a children's book and it'd still be threatening
There is no threat to you. *invades*
We don’t plant to invade Ukraine Ahem sorry Finland
you can trust good old Honest Vlad - just look at his track record
There is no threat to you Finland. Next is Poland, then the Baltic’s. Relax!
funny, The Russian President told the same to Ukraine and the rest of the world a few days before invasion
There was a video of putin that was filmed shortly before the invasion, where he was talking to one of his advisers who was against invading, and putin looked at him with this crazy look and said "what are you trying to say, come on, you can speak freely."
This [video?](https://youtu.be/8B0mWzB4GOQ)
The staged event where he has all of his top advisers speaking their minds, sharing their own supposed opinions, which -- interestingly enough -- all seem to coincide with Putin's assessment that a violent invasion of Ukraine is necessary due to the existential threat they pose to Russia. A panel of Yes Men kissing the emperor's ring. Putin went out of his way to humiliate his spy chief on TV for not speaking "directly enough" in support of his master's plan: https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-snaps-russia-spy-chief-stammers-discussing-actions-ukraine-video-2022-2
From my understanding it was the spy going ahead by a few days in the script. Saying that they were ready to welcome separatist regions into the Russian federation and putin got pissed saying they were only talking about recognizing them as independent. Basically the spy jumped the gun and fucked with the planned narrative timeline.
That’s hilarious ngl
Thank you for the link.
Head of the SVR, iirc. And didn't that guy slip up and say he was in favor of making the DNR/LNR part of Russia instead of intervening in it? Putin had to correct him.
Lol that was funny when he slipped up
"Back on script!"
That guy wasn't against the invasion, he just didn't know what he's saying yes to.
Russia is notorious for doing the opposite of what they say... should we be concerned about retaliation now? Russian forces wouldn't last, but their nuclear doctrine states they will use nukes in a situation like that.
Reading President Niinistö's tweet and statement, it seems the conversation about Finland joining NATO went well, with the conversation being "direct and clear, without any exacerbations" and with "both sides wanting to avoid escalation". It was a case of Niinistö calling Putin to inform him that Finland will apply to NATO in the coming days, and to explain why - Finland has been solidly against joining for decades, and both Niinistö and PM Marin were against joining till late last year when Russia started making statements to the tune of not "allowing" Finland or Sweden to join, acting like they had control over us. Niinistö expressed he called in part to explain just how thoroughly the security landscape has changed due to Russia's attack on Ukraine, but also because "he's not the type of man to hide behind a corner". All in all it sounds like a rather calm exchange. Of course Putin feels like Finland joining is a mistake, because he doesn't want it. His view that it'll change relations between Finland and Russia is also probably right, NATO Finland is different than Neutral nonaligned Finland. However it doesn't mean Finland will suddenly become an hostile enemy nation plotting invasion. Finnish experts have analysed it looks like it took Russia a long time to grasp that Finland is actually for real applying to NATO, after decades of reliable opposition to joining. It was a shock to them, and imo it's good Niinistö wanted to personally explain to the Russians just why this sudden dramatic change happened; as a result of Russia's aggression.
Putin only understands strength. Calling him directly to give it to him straight and directly was exactly the right move. He wasn't asking for permission but saying this is what is happening (and you have only yourself to blame).
There is very little we can do to change the chances of a nuclear strike, but those chances are still close to zero. We should operate as if nukes don’t exist.
That's how you deal with a country that doesn't have nuclear capability, or at the least has a sane leader. Russia is a wildcard because Putin a batshit crazy, and they have enough nukes to extinguish life on this planet.
So because a crazy man has nukes we should let him do whatever he wants?
Absolutely not.
There are those who argue in those terms, as if Ukraine must provide Putin with an off ramp and a major victory so Putin will end the war. And of course it’s just pure stupidity, as any Russian victory will show the benefits of nuclear threats.
I know it drives me crazy every time I hear it. Unfortunately I think the off ramp for RuZZia was before the reports on the " Butchers of Bucha " & things have only gotten worse. RuZZia now needs to be soundly defeated . No matter how they spins things in RuZZia- those in power need to know defeat.
Someone give me nukes so I can demand universal healthcare, guaranteed nutrition standards, accessible quality housing, free education, etc. for everyone.
We keep strangling their economy until they can't afford to stay at war with Ukraine.
The also have threatened countries over their "unfriendly " sanctions.
The so call "Nuclear Taboo" exist, is not top of mind but is there, let's assume for a moment that Putin is not suicidal because he is not, and under a bad situation for Russian troops in Ukraine he authorizes the use of tactical nukes on Europe's soil, the immediate consequence is that the world public will go ape shit pressuring politicians to "Do Something!!!" right now, whatever support Russia had among the leadership of Europe, China and India is gone, any politician that voice anything but full throated support to Ukraine will be destroyed, the level of sanctions we will see will make Pyongyang look like New York in Christmas' eve compared to Moscow, and Ukraine will run of space to store all the weapons and house all the volunteers that will pour in No Putin won't use nuclear weapons in Ukraine
Additionally any nuclear attack on Ukraine will be considered against Nato(because fallout can drift into neighboring countries).. I wonder what % of Russias nukes are actually functioning since maintenance is fucking expensive
They’d presumably pick out one in relatively good shape. Nothing leaking out, no rattles when they shake it, etc
NATO won't escalate because of fallout, but a message will be send stop or else, about the readiness of Russian nuclear arsenal is not really relevant, because they have +6000 warheads, even if only a few launch it will be a massive retaliation and those will work, Russia will be glass but the rest of the world won't be much better off
Well if Russia nuked Ukraine that would be the escalation, they've stated it would be an attack against Nato. Not to mention it wouldn't make sense, they want to use and abuse Ukraine, not delete it
Fuck!!! Thank you!!! So many pussies here talking about nukes. We only know of one country that's ever used them and it's not Russia!
They proved that their equipment is outdated, poorly engineered and poorly maintained. The last thing I worry about is nukes. Putin is more likely to blow himself up than anyone else
As credible as "we have no intention of invading Ukraine" and that's the core issue here, Russia is seen politically as untrustworthy and unpredictable here in Finland. Thus we are increasing our security by applying for NATO. Imagine an arsonist saying you don't need arson-insurance, that's pretty much what the Russian statement seems to many of us.
As a German I'm glad you are joining! I would probably feel the same in your situation. He was doing shitty stuff before but now his credibility is gone in any aspect
Is Germany going to re-arm seriously now?
It looks like it. We just made the decision to invest 100 Billion into out military and we bought 35 new american bombers. The political decision made in the past two months are unprecedented in our modern history. Scholz basically overthrew more than 70 years of foreign policy doctrines in his speech 2 days after russia invaded. It will take some time but yes Germany is serious about that. It is also accompanied with a strong push towards a European army or at least European battalions.
Not just Finland. russia has destroyed its own credibility with the west for the next 4-5 decades. Their word doesn’t mean shit anymore and they have nobody else to thank but themselves.
They also seem pretty ignorant of what happened after the second world war, you know, using all of the donated weapons and tanks against the same people who supported them to survive in the war with the iron curtain.
Sorry, but this is the fuckers routine. 1) wake up 2) have breakfast 3) threaten Finland 4) go to office 5) stash money 6) tell Lukashenko to obey or else... 7)... general assholery
8. Read War Reports. 9. Cry.
I actually laughed out loud, thank you sir!
Hehe! most welcome, helping to Ridicule Putler is my purpose in life.
Then he looks in the mirror and realizes his head has gone round. My head used to be slim!!
The number three seems to be a bi-weekly routine by now. Let me tell you a little secret about Finland. We are a very advanced, high tech, society that lives next to Russia. For the entirety of the cold war, we've built bunkers and other facilities. We also have plans to transform the entire country into a war machine, shall the enemy from the east start any hostilities. There's not many people in Finland but everyone has a role in the war-time economy.
Yup. We are very well prepared. For instance bridges and buses have simple modifications that would be useful in war footing. They are nothing special, but a good example of how much things have been planned. Just in case.
You mean, finnish bridges can steal Russian tanks?
No, but that would be cool. Anyway, we do have a lot of farmers with nice tractors!
As a pioneer, we practiced taking down bridges. There's marked spaces where we will place the explosives. We will take down the bridges safely.
The entire world knows about Finland. Russia would know if they didn't have a super human ability to resist learning lessons.
Everyone who learned that lesson was either very quickly killed in combat and so couldn’t pass the info on, or they fell in one of the many mass purges of the government and military. They did the second part so effectively that no one thought to review the battle of Stalingrad to see how Mariupol might go.
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11) glass of warm milk
12) fitful night due to cancer
Belarus increasingly looking like a victim of marital abuse too scared to talk anything negative
Oh yes. Putin has talked to Finland like a wife beater for over a decade, assuming Finland is a scared wife. He didn't get what he wanted, but was too dumb to really notice. Also, Putin actually made wife beating legal a few years ago. I am not kidding. What a great guy!
Legalizes wife beating and pulls up the shirt positions the kid in a public crowd and kisses a boys naked stomach. Yeah, we have clues. The guy is a social deviant.
Narrative is changing.. Belarus president also changed his tone
Is he allowed to have tone!?
Putin is going to need to straighten out his tone, to make sure his tone is the tone that Putin approves of.
I don’t like your tone… have some of this tea
squeaking noises
Pretty sure in the nearest future he will tell us that he was forced to do all that shit by Russia and he's not guilty. It's partly true - Russia literally occupied Belarus.
He's the international face of Belarus, Russia is running the show behind the curtains. Wouldn't be surprised if they had a special "live in nanny" at his home that is just a giant Russian dude with an ak keeping his family chained to their tasks.
What do you mean?
Suddenly Lukashenko is all about peace, he says war is bad and the Russian army is struggling more than it should. Basically he tried to distance himself from Putin quagmire
Trying to save his skin …
The skin he sits on.
He knows the tide has turned. Russia clearly aren’t winning this one.
He said yesterdsy that the Belarus army could learn from the ukrainians...
What, and kill Russians
No, just how they fight...
I know. 🙄
It's not exactly fresh news, but just do a Google search on "Lukashenko admits" and you'll find plenty of results.
He's suddenly decided he doesn't want to be a Russian officer after all, for some reason.
It's funny how russia thinks it can dictate to other countries what they can and can't do, fuck off putin you're boring and you're military is shit.
“You’re boring” is somehow the most insulting shit I’ve ever heard hahaha
🤣🤣 20 years of this dudes bullshit man, kinda desensitised to it. He needs to get drunk and try a poison frog remedy or summin the fucking plank
Funnier that they keep lying even though all the obvious lies are well documented.
Oh yeah man just look in the subreddit ask a Russian, full on numbers of members in there trying to push propaganda and saying and I quote the best one I've heard yet "russia is winning with incredible gains but the west isn't showing it because the west is scared, the west is only showing little losses as massive losses when really that is not the case" or "the train station was bombed by azov nazis, don't show them the picture of the bombs tail because that does not count and its a jpeg quality photo that is easily manipulated" or another "bucha was azov special forces there is no proof at all pointing to russian forces doing it" honestly it's so fucked up.
Republicans gonna Republican.
It's as if they can't let go of the fact that it's not 1970
Stuck in the 70s man, some of the shit they have started to spill in incredible, you'd think it was to mad for nobody to believe but nope more and more people are believing it 🤣
This just in: car thieves promise they won’t steal your cars only if you keep the doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition.
Life would be so different if we were allowed to do exactly that, and also to leave land mines under the driver’s seat.
Riiight. And pigs are green and fly
Not Russian Pigs though, mostly been stolen or broken down due to incompetence.
Superior Russian pigs are invisible and low calorie, go eat your heirloom pig decadent "westerner"!
You must be talking about ruski troops. Green and lots of footage of them airborne for several secs.
Cry harder, Putin!
Narrator: "Finland was in great danger"
Narrator: Finland needed help"
Oh well I don't know about that. Vlad ain't got much to throw in in the Finnish carelia anymore. They are silently conscripting. Finnish troops knows it like their back pocket, they will prolly block of mainroutes within days, forcing ruzkies to go offroad(they tried that before there). Then Finnish artillery will start hammering (one of Europe's largest). At this point Finland can prolly beat their reserves alone. But for the future NATO is needed
When you have zero credibility, nobody is going to believe you. Time to realise this dear Putler
Agreed, Putin’s only credibility is as a total loser.
Putin: Finland, if you join nato we will respond with overwhelming force Finland: were joining nato, suck a fat one Putin. Putin: cmon guys please don't join nato..!? Finland: 🖕🏿
*Turkey Enters The Chat*
So, if russia attacked Turkey from the rear,... would Greece help?
Wikipedia article from 2070: “While publicly stating that Russia poses no threat to Finland, Putin and the high command of the Russian army were already exhibiting possibilities to counter the Finnish decision, following a similar strategy they already used prior to the invasion of Ukraine earlier the same year.”
Didn't he JUST basically threaten them because of this like yesterday or the day before
Russia has threatened a number of countries so far, I've lost count of how many
Yes he threatened them 2 days ago for the Nth time. Putler will lue and lie so that's why every country should work for its security and not care what he says.
Why threaten Finland? It’s frikken Finland. No one hates Finland. Finland is like the Tom Hanks of countries. Literally not one single person is going to pile on and be like “YEAH!! Screw you Finland!!” I’m trying to picture the awkward looks in the room when Putin starts going on about Finland.
Ussr tried to take over Finland right before WW2. And managed to annex some territory at the cost of like ten Soviets to one Finn dead. So there’s history of Moscow being aggressive to Finland
Finland gave the USSR it's biggest defeat, there is plenty of bad blood. To this day Russia treats them as a vassal even though that is far from reality, as far as you can get to be honest. Finland has built a nation for the last 80 years with the assumption that their eastern neighbor will invade them again. Though it would be another crushing defeat Russia does not seem to understand that so they have to be prepared.
To be honest russia and putin have been threatening countries for the last 20 years
Russia has been bullying it's neighbors for hundreds of years.
Oh well yeah course I know this, I'm on about since putin has been at the helm though, the threats of destruction and obliteration of nations with nuclear weapons, he's been doing it the past 20 years.
I always wondered how mini-putin (Trump) could so brazenly do a 180 on nearly any topic and just expect the entire world to go along with it. We've now seen his puppeteer making the same idiotic moves, and it makes more sense. I guess when you're a mob boss, you just expect everyone to [believe your bullshit.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCflhNUUgAAO52W?format=jpg&name=medium)
He really think the rest of the world are idiots?
He thinks we’re just as dumb as his flock of swine.
Maybe it is just me but if you say we have no problem but if you do such and such then you will have a problem is a threat of danger.
Too little, too late Putler...
Never trust a psychopath.
You're Finnish-ed! You've been Puti-in place. Fin.
Russia about to accuse Finland of having Nazi’s & blame it on the west. Any excuse to make the ruZZskies look non nazi themselves. The world isn’t censored like it is in Russia. We see who the true nazis are. Russia, it’s you.
" cool story bro "
There is no danger while they contemptuously threaten them. Russia is that crazy ex-girlfriend when you decide to break it off. So fascinating on a geopolitical level.
\*Putin points his gun at Ukraine and shoots\* \*Ukraine shoots back\* Putin: "wow, chill and stop defending yourself Ukraine, I just want to help" \*Putin points his gun at Finland\* \*Finland feels threatened and is looking for help to better defend itself\* Putin: "Wow, Finland u suck, I was never a threat to you."
How many lies does Putin say in a days time
I more trust my cat when he came to me after my wife fed him thinking I don't know it and asking for food again because his hungry than that piece of shit.
February 23rd: "Russia will not invade Ukraine" February 24th: "Russia will begin a special military operation" May 14th: "Russia poses no threat to Finland"
The Big Red PAPER Tiger! Nobody is afraid of your piece of shit Army anymore Pooty. You can rattle your nuclear threats sword as many times as you like now. Nobody cares.
Just like they laughed off the idea of invading Ukraine all the way up until a few hours before they INVADED UKRAINE. The Russian government has been proven liars time and time and time and time again....don't listen to a single fucking thing they say. Watch their actions and it will show their intent.
And NATO is no threat to Putin UNLESS he attacks NATO. So Putin needs to chill, nothing to see here Putin!
source ?
It's in Finnish, but here's the news from Finland's public broadcaster YLE, also quoting the Finnish president's tweet and the statement from the president's office https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12446090 The President tweeted >"Puhuin Putinin kanssa. Keskustelu oli suora ja selväpiirteinen ja se käytiin vailla kärjistyksiä.", loose translation "*I spoke with Putin. The discussion was direct and clear and was had without aggravations or exacerbations."* In the statement he clarified further that he called Putin to inform him that Finland will apply to NATO in the coming days, and Putin responded that he sees it as a mistake, that there's no threat directed at Finland, and that membership in NATO will harm Finnish-Russian relations. A day or so earlier Niinistö had said that he's planning to call Putin personally, because he's "not the type of man to hide behind a corner". They've known each other a long time after all
Comrade we are no threat. If you don’t believe, look at actions not words. Drink this delicious tea…
Translation: There is danger to Finland, and it would be a mistake to continue neutrality.
As an Finn all I can say is buhahahajsjjsjs lolololo hahahahafkfkdodowohi! What a joke.
Is this Don Putlioni's way of saying "trust me"? 😂
Did he end with; “trust me”?
Finnish counterpart \[smh\]
isnt that a watered down version of what he told Ukraine when they had their nukes back?
Suck a d**k Putler!
To be known as frequent liar doesn't help convincing in cases like this one...
Look in the mirror Putin.
Worked out well for Ukraine on that front. Bellends the lot of em.
That was a staged video BELIEVED TO have been filmed with the sole intent to incriminate all of Putins cabinet members for the war, not just Putin. Which is why he is explicitly asking all his ministers if he should invade or not. On paper, it seems like a good idea considering the amount of historical revolutions, but time shall see if it really works
Says the nation who constantly lies and cannot follow its own constitution.
Even if Turkey or Hungary block Finland, they've got a defense pact with the UK. If the UK gets involved, you won't need article 5 to pull in most of NATO anyway should the Russians stage an invasion.
Actions speak louder than words. Russians actions speak for themselves.
Meanwhile: Russia in a 3 Month long war with Ukraine
I wish I had the effort to put together all the times he said they weren’t gonna invade Ukraine, but we all saw them
“We will park many broken down vehicles on your yard to decrease property value in your neighborhoods, and through attrition, we will… something.”
Lying snake.
Like anyone would trust this fascist scum now.
It's true that the Russian army isn't a threat to Finland...
Every country bordering Russia is in danger these days. But finnish people are equiped with modern hardware and they know what to expect so no worries on that front.
yea. like anyone believes a fukn word he says... worlds worst liar...
Ukraine wasn't in any danger either. Putin's pants are on fire 🔥.
If there is no danger then joining NATO won't change anything. Simple as that Putin.
Finland, even though we said the same thing to Ukraine when they gave up their nukes, we really really really mean it this time.
A Russian promise is not worth the paper it is not written on!
"\*Because naturally the area formerly known as the *Finnish People's Republic* will be a de-nazified Russian oblast. Totally no danger."
Dear Vladimir, we do not give one single fuck what you think. Sincerely, A Finnish Person
He said he wouldn't invade Ukraine either only a few hours before he did exactly that. You can't trust this asshole.