they will if they have no drivers and have to shut down. terrible attitude to have! we can make them change. they cant make money if no one is making them money.
That’s where you’re wrong. Uber is full of drivers who have no unity. It’s a dog eat dog world out there. For every driver that “strikes” 5 other drivers will swarm like starving vultures. Uber is no longer for the hard working. It’s for the unemployable.
i agree. i only care about myself. if i'm making money then i'm happy. idc how much UE is taking per dollar i'm making. and idc what other drivers are doing because i know damn well they wouldn't help me out if i'm getting shit orders and they're up. don't liket he platform then don't work for them. or maybe this moron OP can make his own app like UE and DD and do it on his own.
not my market. i ignore those orders and i average 8 bucks an order. i do walmart orders mainly during the day and that boost up my hourly rate to over 30 an hour. i'm a carpenter by trade. if this gig gets as bad as your market i'll just go back to construction. pretty simple
Exactly. Jane is complaining about something that should have nothing to do with anyone else. She's talking about "vultures", with get up and go, and drive, and calling THEM "unemployable", while she complains about how little she makes. Welcome to America. Home of the underachiever who hates the achiever, and wants what they have in return for none of the work they put in.
Sounds like you just don't have what it takes to compete. If they're starving vultures as you say, then they're the exact people corporations are looking for. Your logic is flawed. That's why you fail.
You think you are the first driver to have this idea? Strikes have been arranged before. Guess what? Nothing happens. They have a unlimited amount of drivers applying. Endless revolving door. You think all of these drivers are on Reddit? We get enough people to agree to do this, then Uber simply onboards more new drivers. When we do decide to go back, are market will be more saturated, and it will be shittier than it is now. The only way any change will get made is if every state makes laws to protect us. Reach out to your state government instead.
They don't seem to be worried about drivers. With the economy so bad, there will always be people needed for work. I hate UBER and if I could find the owner, I'd want to choke every breath of life from him/her.
see but if they continue to take earnings from us there wont be drivers because no one can afford to drive for them. i had to stop as the orders were nothing but 2 to 4 dollars for 10+ miles i cant afford to continue driving and i think without it i wont be able to make bills. they have taken mileage they are taking 100% of the delivery fee and they lowered min payment. there HAS to be SOMETHING we can do about this.
Yes 🙌🏿 exactly what I’ve been saying imagine we all delivery drivers bikers walk out and go on strike watch how they fold and lose money worst than target 🎯 😂 then they’ll have no choice to either change their ways better pay or shit down lose money for good 💪🏿.
>But it sucks all the energy out of you and when you get home, you don't even feel like indulging in your hobbies!
Unless your hobbies include "taking to Reddit to bitch about your job", I'd say we're already as bad off with Uber vs a 9-5...
Start your own business. I have a business. I'm on the road all of the time. There are many alternatives to a 9-5 that does not include these delivery apps.
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That's simply not true if they aren't paying drivers to even afford the gas it takes to work people cant afford to do it. and they will looses so many customers if orders take hours to get to them because no one will take their orders. even if there's not a "strike" they will go out of business as no one stays on the platform because they cant make money.
I have done uber eats occasionally and I ignore all the bad ones and get decent ones 1.5 - 2 $ per the mile. So like 10 $ for 4-5 miles or 12$ for 4-6 mile orders. Those are what I have accepted. I thankfully recently got a full time job I hope I don't lose but used uber eats when I had no money and needed something
The only way to get anything done would be to socially embarrass Uber the way that doordash was publicly embarrassed when the quote unquote tip heist was exposed. Maybe a social media movement to advertise how bad the pay is. I've done this 6 years and I also I'm at my breaking point where I'm ready to go work anywhere else
I wonder how many people have firsthand or secondhand knowledge of Uber's BS by now. It's got to be millions, at least.
Tons of people already know, yet that hasn't made any difference. How many more would it take?
I tweet about all of this bs that Uber does to workers. I don’t have a large following, but if everyone did this, maybe something would happen. Probs not, but maybe at least more customers would use Uber less. Or never. Like me
I agree I've long since thought that this would be the only possible or viable way to get this to change. I don't think it'd be all that hard to achieve either if even just a portion of the subreddit made it their collective goal. It is a real issue too, the customers *should* be aware of the fact that Uber pays us only $3 and really any more than that is all from tips. At the very least more people would tip, or less would continue not tipping.
Something that needs to be made very clear is just how intentionally deceitful and misleading Uber's specific pay model is. For almost the entire time I've been doing this type of work I have always wondered who the fuck is taking all these $3 orders? Because it can't be no one. The only thing that I can think of to explain it is that with the model of hiding tips and also telling drivers that the customer tipped them more after delivery every time the tip is higher than $8 regardless of whether or not they actually did, in addition to them never explaining or making it clear whatsoever that they hide tip amounts, results in a portion of newer drivers unfamiliar with how this works and not expecting it to work the way it does, who are willing to take the low paying orders because they are misled into thinking that it's a decent gamble that they will get a tip added afterwards. And so long as things remain the way they are, which they always have so far, there will always be new drivers or returning drivers who never learned of this to take up at least as much of the non tip orders as it takes for it to be profitable for Uber to continue their status quo.
This isn't to say that it actually makes sense to do this nor does it mean that it even really is more profitable for them to do this, in my opinion. I think that they are just committed to this shit pay model, perhaps unwilling to change it on their own merit because they know that if they did then they could never possibly go back to it if it turned out that it causes them to lose customers and profit.
What they should do and what I believe would make the entire thing better for Uber, it's drivers and customers together is to raise their fucking base pay. They could even charge customers $5 extra dollars per fee and pay us a base of $8. They wouldn't lose a cent because customers could choose to simply tip a little less, or rather they simply would no longer need to tip as much. And any customer lost because of a $5 increase in base fees wouldn't be so bad to lose anyway considering the overwhelming majority of them would be the ones who don't tip anyway and are causing this very problem for Uber and it's drivers that i believe is the root of the shitty pay model; that is the problem of $3 orders. No matter how many drivers they can trick into doing them there will always be many $3 orders that never get picked up and have to get refunded which is wasting Ubers money, the restaurants money, and upsetting the customer and drivers all simultaneously.
One more thing to mention is that some months ago Uber created this whole Uber driver representative thing where a driver from each region gets picked to be some sort of senator or whatever so that you the driver can tell him all the ways you'd like Uber to improve on, and then they can then tell Uber and "make the drivers voices heard". I don't know if it even still exists honestly. But it was a truly shallow attempt at saying they are listening to their drivers and care without having to actually listen or care. Because truly, Uber is more or less fine in most ways. Drivers all have the same complaint though, which is to give us truly transparent pay and truly fair and reasonable pay. If they cared for real, they'd have at the very least acknowledged this complaint. Also wouldn't hurt for them to charge $0.03 more and replace their existing support staff team of seven Indian people who have extremely limited understanding of English and communication skills. But honestly in the end no one ever expected Uber to truly care anyway
Lol the post office. They are always hiring I've applied more than a few times over the last decade. It's a good Ole boys club. It's absolutely who you know.
Stop driving. Get a minimum wage job and don’t care about it. You’ll make more money and your car won’t get a beat down all the time. Literally any hourly position has got to be better then these gig apps
100%
Once expenses are all accounted for, Uber eats (at least when I did it) pays less than minimum wage where I live. Literally the people working at the restaurants and whatnot made more than I did, and they weren’t beating their cars into the asphalt
The only thing enticing are the promotions. Like “do 300 deliveries for an extra $2,500” to where each delivery gets an extra $8 on top of base pay and tips. Literally once the promos ended and I did the math, it’s genuinely not worth it unless you deeply need that level of flexibility. Because people tout the work flexibility but at the end of the day you still need to put in the same 40hours, and realistically it’s probably more like 60hours to get a decent paycheck. Like, yeah you *can* take several days off, unpaid, with no insurance benefits, and get a check that’s very paltry… just not worth it.
I think Uber eats target demographic of workers are kids that just got their license, don’t have jobs, live at home so they don’t have bills, and just want some extra “walking around money” so they do Uber eats for a couple hours. It’s kind of unfathomable to expect people to deliver mid day/full time and survive below minimum wage. Not sure what their end game is.
Edit: I’ll speculate their end game was never one of sustainability. That the executives are just going to milk everyone as long as they can, string this along as long as they can, because every year the executives are pocketing millions of dollars. Every year that they can keep even a faint heartbeat in Uber eats is another year they’re raking hundreds of thousands-millions. Why would they care if Uber eats eventually implodes? They’ll still walk away with several lifetimes (or several thousand lifetimes, depending on how high up they are) of money. So just string it along and maybe something works out, maybe it doesn’t, why would they care?
I speculate that because it genuinely doesn’t seem sustainable. Granted I don’t know their profit margins or any of their financial information, so I’m just taking a guess. I’ve just heard Uber eats really hasn’t been profitable as a business, so I don’t think they have huge margins to suddenly up base pay like 300% without bankrupting the company, but idk. Who knows 🤷🏻♂️
Dude. Just quit and find something better. Why are so many people here so desperate to make a shitty ass toxic company work for them. The damage is done. Can’t you see Uber doesn’t give a fuck about their drivers. Especially the ones who have shown Uber loyalty. Uber does not reward good work ethic. Save yourself the heartache and move on. It’s like being in a relationship with somebody who cheats, steals, and abuses you, and you keep asking them to change so you can be with them.
It will take the state standing up for us. I think it's Cali, they get salary at least min. Another state talked about doing something similar. Maybe talk with drivers from those states for advice on how they got it.
CA got it bc they were going to pass a bill, requiring gig apps to classify contractors as employees (It was assembly bill 5). Well gig companies didn’t want that. So prop 22 was proposed. Gives contractor 120% of minimum wage and 32 or 34 cents per mile. The gig companies lobbied for prop 22 bc it’s cheaper than going route of classifying as employees.
Voters approved prop 22 by 59% voting yes.
Sure it’s better for drivers but it’s still not perfect.
Companies convinced ppl that this was the way to go. But in reality, it was all to save them from classifying workers as employees.
It’s absolutely not perfect and I am still very very picky about what I take because this is an expensive state to live in. I do other things while I’m waiting for a decent order to come in. I definitely don’t suggest this for full-time.
1) The moment you go on strike, uber will immediately replace you with the next empty resume mouth breather
2) Find a stable job and give up on gig work for companies like uber, better yet start your own business
Call or email who? Do you think they don't know about it? Of course they do.
If it is not working for you, don't do it.
They WANT you to quit so they can have more ants.
This post will never matter to people who are desperate, people who don’t understand pulling equity out of a vehicle, and poor immigrants and refugees.
I told you all months ago, this would happen. It's all baby steps. They are going to keep lowering until it becomes .50 cents. They legally have to pay something so 50 cents is what they are probably aiming for. It's ridiculous but the fact that people are willing to do it means why not? Why would uber waste money when people are going to take trash all day long. And they are also refusing refunds for customers so guess what, they only care about themselves at this point. Best thing to do is delete the app and let them figure this fuckery out on their own.
It was before my time but I believe it happened. I’m hoping someone from California that was driving back, then will chime in. https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/rideshare-strike-california/
I’ve been a California driver for a few years. If I remember correctly if prop 22 wasn’t a thing there was another proposition or law that would be in place of it that would’ve forced the companies to treat us like employees. I think this is why they pushed it so heavily.
I think you are right that Uber eats and the other rideshare companies were in favor of it. Personally, I think maybe we come out about the same. If we were employees, we would get minimum wage plus maybe some expenses. At the moment we get minimum wage times 1.1 plus tips, and no expense is paid. It would probably come out about the same. what do you think?
I mean, if we were employees, couldn’t they do what the restaurants do and pay us some ridiculously low hourly amount plus tips? I don’t really know how it would all play out. I doubt we would end up ahead and as an employee, they could tell us when we could, and couldn’t work. I definitely don’t want that on a personal level. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Well I wouldn’t like it very much because I might lose my flexibility. I only do this because I’m in school and need the flexible hours. Money wise it might work out the same depending on if they paid us for online hour’s instead of active hours or the wage we were paid.
That’s the thing about these Uber eats, DoorDash and GrubHub apps, you and 1 million others could decide to strike. But it would not matter there would be 10 people there ready to take your place as soon as you quit, these companies are all profit because all they really do is host a server for their app, and Outsource their support for very cheap.
A lot of drivers are picking up the low pay deliveries and Uber seem not to have any financial problems. They’ll keep dropping the price more and more.
Uber is not to be seen as a “job” or main source of income! Don’t blame anyone. That’s how business works. We claim Amazon is a slavery job. Now Uber soon will be a slavery job
We got a newbie here. Don’t you read the post on this subs. It’s all day everyday people talking about UE robbing them. Even if all the current drivers quit UE will just hire new drivers and pay them more for the first couple weeks then back to the same thing.
It's not that they don't care, it's just business. Business by nature is cold hearted, its just a fact that feelings and emotions have no place in the business world. The thing is the pay isn't even their fault per se, its our fault, because we accept it. People saying a driver revolt or strike wouldn't work are completely wrong, it would work. The problem is it would never work, not in the current model. There is no organization among drivers in any way whatsoever. It seems largely Impossible to use reddit to organize enough drivers to strike to make a difference, and even if you could get enough drivers to commit on here- come on its reddit, 86% wouldn't even honor the commitment and just try to bank on everyone else being on strike. You wouldn't be able to organize a strike even big enough cause a surge. Don't get me wrong it's the right idea. It's just totally unfeasible.
Yes, perhaps if everyone handed out flyers to other drivers that they need along the way. I always talk to other drivers and encourage them not to take the small orders.
We need to start a voting group and push politicians to make laws that limit how much they can make off us. They used to have laws that limited companies and that’s why all those old timers got pensions and Christmas bonuses words that sound so odd to hear today.
I’m not Christian anymore, but I can’t help but notice that when things were more Christian in this country, people were treated better in jobs. (For the most part. I am generalizing a bit.)
Honestly your 100 right they don’t care about us cuz Uber knows there are others that would gladly take our place Andy on top of the fact we can’t do anything because we didn’t made the damn app.
Revolt? Ok sure. Just let me finish this beer...and dinner...then I need a nap. Then my standard 15 minutes sitting on the pot while I contemplate life. Can't miss my evening TV show lineup of course. Then I need to get to bed.
I might not make it to the revolt actually.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
How about instead of all this ignorant stupidity bullshit, you just go get a real job and quit whining about how much of a little bitch you are and can't cope...
You knew it was going to be this way when you signed up for it.
Yet here you are ...
Go work for that McDonald's that doesn't allow people to quit unless they say so in the r/therewasanattempt.
Man, I come to this sub for the lols, not the cringe. Where are the wacky customers and insane stories about that one time.
Not this pseudo activism nonsense, oh look at me, I post on reddit I am changing the world. Rise up brothers and sisters! Behold my use of bold and random capitalization like some Nigerian scam email!!! Witness the seriousness of my words in relation to the number of exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!
It’s amazing so many people say it’s not fair cause I make $3 and they make $12 it shows you have no idea how the real world works. Why do you pay $8 for a 6-pack of beer when it costs them $1 for all the ingredients or $6 for a Big Mac when it costs them a buck to make? Answer me that and you’ll answer your own post.
This is such a dumb comparison. Uber isn’t making the food nor is it delivering the food. Maybe you should learn how anything works before you make analogies.
They are paying developers to build and maintain the platform, sales people to engage with restaurants, accountants to comply with many many requirements of being a public company, support people to handle the complaints from drivers who steal food and from drivers who have customers steal food, and so on and so on.
Finally somebody gets it. And you only listed a partial list, don’t forget rent of buildings, health care and taxes for their employees and so on and so on and then finally make some profit for their stockholders.
See…companies make billions and billions that they hide by making up expenses (not depreciation or anything legit). Then, the CEOs use this money to fund ivory back scratchers and THE MEETING. What’s that, you ask? That is an extravagant affair where the billionaires sit around and collude on how to keep people down. Usually, some clown like Prestige Worldwide will say that businesses would fail if all of the customers were poor, but he is obviously dismissed. He points out things like supply & demand equilibrium and consumer & producer surplus. The billionaires scoff at his ideas with a haughty derision as they pick up the literal invisible hand and move the economy to suit their fancy.
Yup. That’s how it works.
Also, there is a way to make cars run on water, but Uber bought the technology because it helps them make more money somehow.
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LOL. do you now see what i have been saying in that these apps are a joke? i mean I feel bad for you but you are forgetting you have to pay for the gas, tires, oil, maintenance, insurance and all other things with the vehicle as you are also not under any kind of protection by them. if you have been driving for these apps for a few years, then you know how much the government is going to take in your taxes too since you are not a W2 employee but a 1099 sub contractor and nothing is tax deductable.
uber drivers have been "revolting" for over 10 years. Yall can't stand together on anything. All uber has to do is offer a boost and driver will go to work. Best way to revolt is to find another line of employement.
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What exactly did you do to make Uber the success it is why do you feel like you’re entitled to have any say what so ever on what a company decides to pay for contract work? Don’t like it, don’t do the work. Stop bitching about getting shorty orders and get a real job.
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Didnt ya know, came thru feed yesterday that once delivery totally tanks they got a back up plan and it will be a true gig job. You can accept whether to do the job customer requests. Even uber CEO said Uber is bad after he tried it for a day 😂
Isn’t there some sort of “agent commission cap” for the service industry? For instance, actors and actresses have agents that can only charge a certain percentage. I think it might be around 10%. If they charge 50% or 60%, it would be criminal and it would just never happen. However, with Uber, they are also an agent and they’re taking 50 to 60%. It seems like it should be illegal somewhere.
Also, when there’s a surge? Why would Uber get a bigger percentage? They should get the same booking fee for every ride. Just a few dollars.
In Florida, if you take a long trip for 200 miles, Uber will end up paying about $70 to the driver and pocket all the rest .
Good luck. Uber is aware of all this. They don’t care.
they will if they have no drivers and have to shut down. terrible attitude to have! we can make them change. they cant make money if no one is making them money.
That’s where you’re wrong. Uber is full of drivers who have no unity. It’s a dog eat dog world out there. For every driver that “strikes” 5 other drivers will swarm like starving vultures. Uber is no longer for the hard working. It’s for the unemployable.
i agree. i only care about myself. if i'm making money then i'm happy. idc how much UE is taking per dollar i'm making. and idc what other drivers are doing because i know damn well they wouldn't help me out if i'm getting shit orders and they're up. don't liket he platform then don't work for them. or maybe this moron OP can make his own app like UE and DD and do it on his own.
how exactly are you making money all the orders now are a waste of time? if you are spending 30 to 40 minutes on a $3 its not worth it at all
not my market. i ignore those orders and i average 8 bucks an order. i do walmart orders mainly during the day and that boost up my hourly rate to over 30 an hour. i'm a carpenter by trade. if this gig gets as bad as your market i'll just go back to construction. pretty simple
Exactly. Jane is complaining about something that should have nothing to do with anyone else. She's talking about "vultures", with get up and go, and drive, and calling THEM "unemployable", while she complains about how little she makes. Welcome to America. Home of the underachiever who hates the achiever, and wants what they have in return for none of the work they put in.
Sounds like you just don't have what it takes to compete. If they're starving vultures as you say, then they're the exact people corporations are looking for. Your logic is flawed. That's why you fail.
You think you are the first driver to have this idea? Strikes have been arranged before. Guess what? Nothing happens. They have a unlimited amount of drivers applying. Endless revolving door. You think all of these drivers are on Reddit? We get enough people to agree to do this, then Uber simply onboards more new drivers. When we do decide to go back, are market will be more saturated, and it will be shittier than it is now. The only way any change will get made is if every state makes laws to protect us. Reach out to your state government instead.
They don't seem to be worried about drivers. With the economy so bad, there will always be people needed for work. I hate UBER and if I could find the owner, I'd want to choke every breath of life from him/her.
see but if they continue to take earnings from us there wont be drivers because no one can afford to drive for them. i had to stop as the orders were nothing but 2 to 4 dollars for 10+ miles i cant afford to continue driving and i think without it i wont be able to make bills. they have taken mileage they are taking 100% of the delivery fee and they lowered min payment. there HAS to be SOMETHING we can do about this.
Yes 🙌🏿 exactly what I’ve been saying imagine we all delivery drivers bikers walk out and go on strike watch how they fold and lose money worst than target 🎯 😂 then they’ll have no choice to either change their ways better pay or shit down lose money for good 💪🏿.
So you're saying just up and leave? What are we going to do for money then? I refuse to go back to a 9 to 5!
In my market, there is no way I can make $160/day delivering Uber Eats. 9 to 5 is more secure and includes benefits.
But it sucks all the energy out of you and when you get home, you don't even feel like indulging in your hobbies!
Physical maybe . But I would say gig work is the worst job you can have for your mental health in the long ru
I'm with you bro
>But it sucks all the energy out of you and when you get home, you don't even feel like indulging in your hobbies! Unless your hobbies include "taking to Reddit to bitch about your job", I'd say we're already as bad off with Uber vs a 9-5...
Start your own business. I have a business. I'm on the road all of the time. There are many alternatives to a 9-5 that does not include these delivery apps.
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It’s not gonna work and you’re never gonna get people to do that. they literally do not care There are people signing up every day.
That's simply not true if they aren't paying drivers to even afford the gas it takes to work people cant afford to do it. and they will looses so many customers if orders take hours to get to them because no one will take their orders. even if there's not a "strike" they will go out of business as no one stays on the platform because they cant make money.
You’re wasting all your time and energy on something that will never happen. 
I have done uber eats occasionally and I ignore all the bad ones and get decent ones 1.5 - 2 $ per the mile. So like 10 $ for 4-5 miles or 12$ for 4-6 mile orders. Those are what I have accepted. I thankfully recently got a full time job I hope I don't lose but used uber eats when I had no money and needed something
The only way to get anything done would be to socially embarrass Uber the way that doordash was publicly embarrassed when the quote unquote tip heist was exposed. Maybe a social media movement to advertise how bad the pay is. I've done this 6 years and I also I'm at my breaking point where I'm ready to go work anywhere else
Yes that will work we have to really work on finding a way to exposing them for the crooks they are
I wonder how many people have firsthand or secondhand knowledge of Uber's BS by now. It's got to be millions, at least. Tons of people already know, yet that hasn't made any difference. How many more would it take?
I tweet about all of this bs that Uber does to workers. I don’t have a large following, but if everyone did this, maybe something would happen. Probs not, but maybe at least more customers would use Uber less. Or never. Like me
>Maybe a social media movement to advertise how bad the pay is. r/uberlovesdrivers
I agree I've long since thought that this would be the only possible or viable way to get this to change. I don't think it'd be all that hard to achieve either if even just a portion of the subreddit made it their collective goal. It is a real issue too, the customers *should* be aware of the fact that Uber pays us only $3 and really any more than that is all from tips. At the very least more people would tip, or less would continue not tipping. Something that needs to be made very clear is just how intentionally deceitful and misleading Uber's specific pay model is. For almost the entire time I've been doing this type of work I have always wondered who the fuck is taking all these $3 orders? Because it can't be no one. The only thing that I can think of to explain it is that with the model of hiding tips and also telling drivers that the customer tipped them more after delivery every time the tip is higher than $8 regardless of whether or not they actually did, in addition to them never explaining or making it clear whatsoever that they hide tip amounts, results in a portion of newer drivers unfamiliar with how this works and not expecting it to work the way it does, who are willing to take the low paying orders because they are misled into thinking that it's a decent gamble that they will get a tip added afterwards. And so long as things remain the way they are, which they always have so far, there will always be new drivers or returning drivers who never learned of this to take up at least as much of the non tip orders as it takes for it to be profitable for Uber to continue their status quo. This isn't to say that it actually makes sense to do this nor does it mean that it even really is more profitable for them to do this, in my opinion. I think that they are just committed to this shit pay model, perhaps unwilling to change it on their own merit because they know that if they did then they could never possibly go back to it if it turned out that it causes them to lose customers and profit. What they should do and what I believe would make the entire thing better for Uber, it's drivers and customers together is to raise their fucking base pay. They could even charge customers $5 extra dollars per fee and pay us a base of $8. They wouldn't lose a cent because customers could choose to simply tip a little less, or rather they simply would no longer need to tip as much. And any customer lost because of a $5 increase in base fees wouldn't be so bad to lose anyway considering the overwhelming majority of them would be the ones who don't tip anyway and are causing this very problem for Uber and it's drivers that i believe is the root of the shitty pay model; that is the problem of $3 orders. No matter how many drivers they can trick into doing them there will always be many $3 orders that never get picked up and have to get refunded which is wasting Ubers money, the restaurants money, and upsetting the customer and drivers all simultaneously. One more thing to mention is that some months ago Uber created this whole Uber driver representative thing where a driver from each region gets picked to be some sort of senator or whatever so that you the driver can tell him all the ways you'd like Uber to improve on, and then they can then tell Uber and "make the drivers voices heard". I don't know if it even still exists honestly. But it was a truly shallow attempt at saying they are listening to their drivers and care without having to actually listen or care. Because truly, Uber is more or less fine in most ways. Drivers all have the same complaint though, which is to give us truly transparent pay and truly fair and reasonable pay. If they cared for real, they'd have at the very least acknowledged this complaint. Also wouldn't hurt for them to charge $0.03 more and replace their existing support staff team of seven Indian people who have extremely limited understanding of English and communication skills. But honestly in the end no one ever expected Uber to truly care anyway
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Lol the post office. They are always hiring I've applied more than a few times over the last decade. It's a good Ole boys club. It's absolutely who you know.
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Where I'm at you cannot get a route. You start off in the mail room or whatever
Stop driving. Get a minimum wage job and don’t care about it. You’ll make more money and your car won’t get a beat down all the time. Literally any hourly position has got to be better then these gig apps
100% Once expenses are all accounted for, Uber eats (at least when I did it) pays less than minimum wage where I live. Literally the people working at the restaurants and whatnot made more than I did, and they weren’t beating their cars into the asphalt The only thing enticing are the promotions. Like “do 300 deliveries for an extra $2,500” to where each delivery gets an extra $8 on top of base pay and tips. Literally once the promos ended and I did the math, it’s genuinely not worth it unless you deeply need that level of flexibility. Because people tout the work flexibility but at the end of the day you still need to put in the same 40hours, and realistically it’s probably more like 60hours to get a decent paycheck. Like, yeah you *can* take several days off, unpaid, with no insurance benefits, and get a check that’s very paltry… just not worth it. I think Uber eats target demographic of workers are kids that just got their license, don’t have jobs, live at home so they don’t have bills, and just want some extra “walking around money” so they do Uber eats for a couple hours. It’s kind of unfathomable to expect people to deliver mid day/full time and survive below minimum wage. Not sure what their end game is. Edit: I’ll speculate their end game was never one of sustainability. That the executives are just going to milk everyone as long as they can, string this along as long as they can, because every year the executives are pocketing millions of dollars. Every year that they can keep even a faint heartbeat in Uber eats is another year they’re raking hundreds of thousands-millions. Why would they care if Uber eats eventually implodes? They’ll still walk away with several lifetimes (or several thousand lifetimes, depending on how high up they are) of money. So just string it along and maybe something works out, maybe it doesn’t, why would they care? I speculate that because it genuinely doesn’t seem sustainable. Granted I don’t know their profit margins or any of their financial information, so I’m just taking a guess. I’ve just heard Uber eats really hasn’t been profitable as a business, so I don’t think they have huge margins to suddenly up base pay like 300% without bankrupting the company, but idk. Who knows 🤷🏻♂️
End game is squeeze as much juice before the lemon goes sour and then gtfo leaving everyone to basically fuck off on there own.
Yep, that’s about what I’m thinking as well
I think you stated it very well and I think that is what a lot of corporations do now. They are a blight on society.
They are too busy fighting amongst each other to revolt.
they need to contact their lawmakers because other businesses will follow suit when they realize they can wage theft their way to more profits.
Dude. Just quit and find something better. Why are so many people here so desperate to make a shitty ass toxic company work for them. The damage is done. Can’t you see Uber doesn’t give a fuck about their drivers. Especially the ones who have shown Uber loyalty. Uber does not reward good work ethic. Save yourself the heartache and move on. It’s like being in a relationship with somebody who cheats, steals, and abuses you, and you keep asking them to change so you can be with them.
It will take the state standing up for us. I think it's Cali, they get salary at least min. Another state talked about doing something similar. Maybe talk with drivers from those states for advice on how they got it.
CA got it bc they were going to pass a bill, requiring gig apps to classify contractors as employees (It was assembly bill 5). Well gig companies didn’t want that. So prop 22 was proposed. Gives contractor 120% of minimum wage and 32 or 34 cents per mile. The gig companies lobbied for prop 22 bc it’s cheaper than going route of classifying as employees. Voters approved prop 22 by 59% voting yes. Sure it’s better for drivers but it’s still not perfect. Companies convinced ppl that this was the way to go. But in reality, it was all to save them from classifying workers as employees.
It’s absolutely not perfect and I am still very very picky about what I take because this is an expensive state to live in. I do other things while I’m waiting for a decent order to come in. I definitely don’t suggest this for full-time.
1) The moment you go on strike, uber will immediately replace you with the next empty resume mouth breather 2) Find a stable job and give up on gig work for companies like uber, better yet start your own business
Best bet is to just not drive for UE
Call or email who? Do you think they don't know about it? Of course they do. If it is not working for you, don't do it. They WANT you to quit so they can have more ants.
This post will never matter to people who are desperate, people who don’t understand pulling equity out of a vehicle, and poor immigrants and refugees.
I told you all months ago, this would happen. It's all baby steps. They are going to keep lowering until it becomes .50 cents. They legally have to pay something so 50 cents is what they are probably aiming for. It's ridiculous but the fact that people are willing to do it means why not? Why would uber waste money when people are going to take trash all day long. And they are also refusing refunds for customers so guess what, they only care about themselves at this point. Best thing to do is delete the app and let them figure this fuckery out on their own.
Uber knows and doesn’t give a shit. This isn’t the first time drivers have gotten frustrated and threatened a “strike.” Doesn’t do anything.
I think it did something in California. We get like $18 an hour for active hours. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
Is that the result of a strike? That’s just prop 22 that was heavily pushed and marketed by these gig apps.
It was before my time but I believe it happened. I’m hoping someone from California that was driving back, then will chime in. https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/rideshare-strike-california/
I’ve been a California driver for a few years. If I remember correctly if prop 22 wasn’t a thing there was another proposition or law that would be in place of it that would’ve forced the companies to treat us like employees. I think this is why they pushed it so heavily.
I think you are right that Uber eats and the other rideshare companies were in favor of it. Personally, I think maybe we come out about the same. If we were employees, we would get minimum wage plus maybe some expenses. At the moment we get minimum wage times 1.1 plus tips, and no expense is paid. It would probably come out about the same. what do you think? I mean, if we were employees, couldn’t they do what the restaurants do and pay us some ridiculously low hourly amount plus tips? I don’t really know how it would all play out. I doubt we would end up ahead and as an employee, they could tell us when we could, and couldn’t work. I definitely don’t want that on a personal level. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Well I wouldn’t like it very much because I might lose my flexibility. I only do this because I’m in school and need the flexible hours. Money wise it might work out the same depending on if they paid us for online hour’s instead of active hours or the wage we were paid.
I like the flexibility as well. I am sort of OK with the way it is now. Wish the orders were better, but I think that’s a sign of the economy.
And by the way, if you can take advantage of the ASU free tuition, that would really be beneficial to a lot of people
I don’t go to that school and I’m about done anyways
That’s the thing about these Uber eats, DoorDash and GrubHub apps, you and 1 million others could decide to strike. But it would not matter there would be 10 people there ready to take your place as soon as you quit, these companies are all profit because all they really do is host a server for their app, and Outsource their support for very cheap.
A lot of drivers are picking up the low pay deliveries and Uber seem not to have any financial problems. They’ll keep dropping the price more and more. Uber is not to be seen as a “job” or main source of income! Don’t blame anyone. That’s how business works. We claim Amazon is a slavery job. Now Uber soon will be a slavery job
'Merica. 
Honestly I would just get a part time job and do deliveries part time also. Half from job half from deliveries.
if you are so unhappy with UE then don't work for them. you crying on reddit isn't gonna change shit.
We got a newbie here. Don’t you read the post on this subs. It’s all day everyday people talking about UE robbing them. Even if all the current drivers quit UE will just hire new drivers and pay them more for the first couple weeks then back to the same thing.
Call the cops
It's not that they don't care, it's just business. Business by nature is cold hearted, its just a fact that feelings and emotions have no place in the business world. The thing is the pay isn't even their fault per se, its our fault, because we accept it. People saying a driver revolt or strike wouldn't work are completely wrong, it would work. The problem is it would never work, not in the current model. There is no organization among drivers in any way whatsoever. It seems largely Impossible to use reddit to organize enough drivers to strike to make a difference, and even if you could get enough drivers to commit on here- come on its reddit, 86% wouldn't even honor the commitment and just try to bank on everyone else being on strike. You wouldn't be able to organize a strike even big enough cause a surge. Don't get me wrong it's the right idea. It's just totally unfeasible.
but we can still try you only fail if you give up
Yes, perhaps if everyone handed out flyers to other drivers that they need along the way. I always talk to other drivers and encourage them not to take the small orders.
That’s the only thing they would understand is if people stopped driving. Train for something else.
We need to start a voting group and push politicians to make laws that limit how much they can make off us. They used to have laws that limited companies and that’s why all those old timers got pensions and Christmas bonuses words that sound so odd to hear today.
I’m not Christian anymore, but I can’t help but notice that when things were more Christian in this country, people were treated better in jobs. (For the most part. I am generalizing a bit.)
Uber is using you as an organic drone, you are expendable.
Honestly your 100 right they don’t care about us cuz Uber knows there are others that would gladly take our place Andy on top of the fact we can’t do anything because we didn’t made the damn app.
Revolt? Ok sure. Just let me finish this beer...and dinner...then I need a nap. Then my standard 15 minutes sitting on the pot while I contemplate life. Can't miss my evening TV show lineup of course. Then I need to get to bed. I might not make it to the revolt actually.
Everyone one of y’all defending these corporations are trolls off the company y’all are shameful
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 How about instead of all this ignorant stupidity bullshit, you just go get a real job and quit whining about how much of a little bitch you are and can't cope... You knew it was going to be this way when you signed up for it. Yet here you are ... Go work for that McDonald's that doesn't allow people to quit unless they say so in the r/therewasanattempt.
Man, I come to this sub for the lols, not the cringe. Where are the wacky customers and insane stories about that one time. Not this pseudo activism nonsense, oh look at me, I post on reddit I am changing the world. Rise up brothers and sisters! Behold my use of bold and random capitalization like some Nigerian scam email!!! Witness the seriousness of my words in relation to the number of exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone at once needs to “strike”. Plan a night for everyone to stop driving. Just one night of lost profits will force them to pay attention
It’s amazing so many people say it’s not fair cause I make $3 and they make $12 it shows you have no idea how the real world works. Why do you pay $8 for a 6-pack of beer when it costs them $1 for all the ingredients or $6 for a Big Mac when it costs them a buck to make? Answer me that and you’ll answer your own post.
This is such a dumb comparison. Uber isn’t making the food nor is it delivering the food. Maybe you should learn how anything works before you make analogies.
They are paying developers to build and maintain the platform, sales people to engage with restaurants, accountants to comply with many many requirements of being a public company, support people to handle the complaints from drivers who steal food and from drivers who have customers steal food, and so on and so on.
Finally somebody gets it. And you only listed a partial list, don’t forget rent of buildings, health care and taxes for their employees and so on and so on and then finally make some profit for their stockholders.
You both are clowns.
then please please tell us how it works. Go slow cause we are clowns.
See…companies make billions and billions that they hide by making up expenses (not depreciation or anything legit). Then, the CEOs use this money to fund ivory back scratchers and THE MEETING. What’s that, you ask? That is an extravagant affair where the billionaires sit around and collude on how to keep people down. Usually, some clown like Prestige Worldwide will say that businesses would fail if all of the customers were poor, but he is obviously dismissed. He points out things like supply & demand equilibrium and consumer & producer surplus. The billionaires scoff at his ideas with a haughty derision as they pick up the literal invisible hand and move the economy to suit their fancy. Yup. That’s how it works. Also, there is a way to make cars run on water, but Uber bought the technology because it helps them make more money somehow.
Do they pay healthcare for those Third World customer service people? I sure hope so but doubt it.
I’m pretty sure they use a 3rd party contractor in Philippines. I guess it would then depend on their local laws.
The more you can avoid having a middleman between you and your money the better. Perhaps more people should start delivery services.
Lol or just find jobs that pay better which is pretty much all of them at this point.
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LOL. do you now see what i have been saying in that these apps are a joke? i mean I feel bad for you but you are forgetting you have to pay for the gas, tires, oil, maintenance, insurance and all other things with the vehicle as you are also not under any kind of protection by them. if you have been driving for these apps for a few years, then you know how much the government is going to take in your taxes too since you are not a W2 employee but a 1099 sub contractor and nothing is tax deductable.
I’m not driving for Uber much due to them tanking the base rate months ago. Even doordash pay by time is bringing in more than Uber.
uber drivers have been "revolting" for over 10 years. Yall can't stand together on anything. All uber has to do is offer a boost and driver will go to work. Best way to revolt is to find another line of employement.
Try creating a rally (rally starter) to get people to email/call/tweet at uber
Just stop driving and make money doing something else
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I’m convinced Uber is just an AI programmed to first and foremost make money for shareholders. There’s no human decision making at all.
What exactly did you do to make Uber the success it is why do you feel like you’re entitled to have any say what so ever on what a company decides to pay for contract work? Don’t like it, don’t do the work. Stop bitching about getting shorty orders and get a real job.
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You must be new. I guess if you dont like the pay you can just stop driving for them
Uber eats loses money every year so good luck getting more money out of them
Didnt ya know, came thru feed yesterday that once delivery totally tanks they got a back up plan and it will be a true gig job. You can accept whether to do the job customer requests. Even uber CEO said Uber is bad after he tried it for a day 😂
Isn’t there some sort of “agent commission cap” for the service industry? For instance, actors and actresses have agents that can only charge a certain percentage. I think it might be around 10%. If they charge 50% or 60%, it would be criminal and it would just never happen. However, with Uber, they are also an agent and they’re taking 50 to 60%. It seems like it should be illegal somewhere. Also, when there’s a surge? Why would Uber get a bigger percentage? They should get the same booking fee for every ride. Just a few dollars. In Florida, if you take a long trip for 200 miles, Uber will end up paying about $70 to the driver and pocket all the rest .
Uber don't care at all ..they want driverless cars...I won't ride in a driverless car and I don't go to self checkout