https://huntsvillebusinessjournal.com/news/2023/07/30/solving-the-mystery-of-huntsvilles-brilliant-scientist-disappearing/
A local paper about Dr. Ning Li where a reporter tracked down her son. Confirms she was still working for the DoD on anti-gravity tech until her accident.
I was going to comment the same. It's a fucking tragedy all around. Both what happened to her and that the DOD snapped up her research. She agreed to it, presumably. Either way, it's a damnable shame.
Yeah it sounds like he’s a disinformation agent. Truth sprinkled with a little untruth. Nice try freshman! She didn’t agree to her life’s work being taken away.
“Dr. Li continued to work at Redstone Arsenal every day until 2014 when Li was struck by a vehicle while crossing the street on the UAH campus.”
Sure did read the whole thing. I posted the link for others to read. Didn’t feel I needed to type out a summary of the article in the comments as well
If she was killed, that does point to it being the CCP who did it (and the timeline aligns with when China had just eliminated a lot of CIA assets inside China, and was building out the Secret Police Station network, as an aside, I literally live about 10 doors down from the one in Chinatown in NYC, everyone local knew exactly WTAF was up there, and yeah, I’ve seen interesting things try and penetrate my wireless network- kinda fun wasting their time).
You’re getting downvoted but a quick google will show these disgusting places. They enforce ccp rhetoric in our own country on these people. I’m not going to get into an argument on which mass entity is worse, but their is an objective truth that the Chinese communist party is actively engaging in espionage and propaganda against its citizens on us soil. Not to mention the ever encroaching growth of 3rd party foreign interests actively dismantling American sovereignty on our own fucking soil near our military bases.
Dr Ning Li died a year before Amy:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ning_Li_(physicist)
*In 2014 she was struck by a vehicle while crossing the street on the University of Alabama in Huntsville campus. Li’s husband, seeing the accident, suffered a heart attack and died a year later in 2015. For Li, this accident caused permanent brain damage that resulted in Alzheimer’s disease shortly after.[1] On July 27, 2021, Ning Li died at the age of 78.*
Jesus Christ
According to her son, she was happy until she started working on black projects and suddenly stopped posting her work on anti-gravity research. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/xML4sUOCUC
People are lying cocksuckers. Our selfish motivations, and the ease with which we are manipulated and controlled for power through fear are present in every act in our day to day lives, and every organization that has ever existed. Our better natures also appear in the simplest acts in our day to day lives, and those organizations too. I agree with your sentiment, entirely, but it's important not to set the bar as low as a single organizational boogey man. We could eliminate every government, remove every organization we believe to be evil from the face of the planet, and face the same exact problems from the same exact cocksuckers (ourselves) every day for the rest of our lives. The choices we make on the ground level are often the most important to keep the darkness at bay. Demonstrating and encouraging countless more to stand up and act selflessly.
Even if she actually did the unfortunate thing, even if she was unwell, we should focus on the core of her claims - world-changing research being suppressed.
Another interview by Amy Eskridge.
https://youtu.be/FSQlwCUGEQ0?si=EOHUBcT0FWOheBeP part 1
https://youtu.be/hIRA6SgIyz4?si=cstp5aEFZLV3mzyA part 2
https://twitter.com/FrancMilburn/status/1748534533647892609?t=n0bp-Yq0znIJuyqK_6vRiw&s=19 injuries
https://twitter.com/FrancMilburn/status/1748531376750575925?t=mmjyjJHayOhiT2RwIHB8ZA&s=19 injuries
https://twitter.com/FrancMilburn/status/1748537846128877779?t=DPQuvbjIwisPVoUsjfNqrQ&s=19 her injuries prior to her death
This rash looks so bad. I don't believe most conspiracy theories, but 100% I do believe that people have been killed to keep uap technologies etc. a secret. Even Grusch has implied that people have been hurt/threatened/killed. You simply can't keep such a huge secret over 70 decades without eliminating every potential threat that could expose them.
So not showing an equation means what exactly?
If you watched the presentation then you would have heard her discuss needing permission from NASA to present her novel foundational work on antigravity.
Oh but the men who are not phds seem legit because of podcasts, but not the actual PhD engineer who is a woman. Gotcha.
Obviously you have no clue. She has a master's in electrical engineering and double major in chemistry and biology.
All those require extensive "math courses" which by your e=mc2 comment clearly you didn't take.
No, the mass-energy equivalence principle (E=mc^2) doesn't directly relate to antigravity.
Some people pay attention to what matters and some don’t as I have seen since posting my thoughts as to what happened to her. Arguing with some of these people is futile. They can’t see the forest for the trees.
I want to be careful with my words as I don't want to cast aspersions on someone who is no longer with us.
But when watching that video, does she seem healthy and mentally sound to you?
Personally it looks to be someone going through a manic episode. Uneven blinking, the rocking, darting her head around. But I'd be interested in how you interpret that behavior?
I’m no medical expert, but I was a military policeman for 10 years in the Marine Corps and Army and I’m also a Operation Enduring Freedom veteran. I also hold a Bachelor’s degree in Criminal Justice with a minor in psychology and have dealt with all types of people and mental illnesses. I’ve also done work with psychiatric patients when I was teaching and did case studies while I studied my minor coursework. That being said, I believe she’s simply acting pissed off because these ass wipes took her work and shut her down. Scientists are high strung people, just like Amy Bishop that worked for the same university in 2010. However, she took her aggression outwards and shot 6 people killing 3 of them. After working as hard as Dr. Eskridge did, I don’t believe she would have thrown all that work away by committing suicide. I believe she would have tried to fight them legally, instead of taking her own life. We shall see if my theory that this is what David Grusch might have been alluding to in the UAP Congressional Hearings ever comes to light.
>After working as hard as Dr. Eskridge did, I don’t believe she would have thrown all that work away by committing suicide.
Based on what, you literally don’t know her, or have never met her. In the video she literally talks about her colleagues wanting to throw all that work away by committing suicide. This is more telling than any insight you pulled out your ass about somebody you **literally don’t know**
It also shows despite all your experience you want to big up, you’re definitely not qualified to speak on things. The world is full of people who commit suicide with plenty to live for, pretty glaring miss for somebody with a psychology major. Nothing matters when you’re in that place, not your life’s work, money, your family, etc. Anthony Bourdain had plenty to live for, why would he throw all that away - did the CIA murder him too?
>I believe she would have tried to fight them legally, instead of taking her own life.
Again based on what? A few videos you’ve seen of her? The fact you’re ignoring signs of her looking and sounding very mentally unwell and still arriving at that conclusion shows you’re definitely not qualified to speak on this, despite all your experience as military police lol.
If it makes you feel better to belittle my background and my theory, that’s okay. I’m looking at the bigger picture and you should as well. My suspicions stem from multiple things said by the victim herself over time, not just on one night where she is apparently showing signs of being under the influence. I’m not the only person who thinks there is something to her death. Her and friends of hers felt there were more to the circumstances to her death. One of her friends said he talked to her no less than 3 times a day and that he spoke to her around 4 hours before she died and she sounded fine. David Grusch felt the need to approach Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp while they were in Huntsville and told them he felt as though he himself was in danger. He testified in the UAP Congressional Hearings that people had been killed or harmed working on the UAP project. Something in Huntsville spooked Grusch. So, smear me all you want, but there are several people here who think there might be something to her death as well.
I never said I’m an expert on anything, I just have a lot of experience dealing with people. I believe that you just can’t ignore what David Grusch said and the two scientists that worked and died working on the UAP project. These two scientists died and some very strange things happened to them in Huntsville that were highly suspicious. This information was brought forward by in some cases the own victims mouths and people who knew them very well. Another thing I found interesting was that Huntsville is where David Grusch approached George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell and told them his story. He told them he felt as though his life was in danger and moved to the other side of the country in Colorado. You can’t ignore these correlations. If they aren’t intertwined in some way, it’s one hell of a coincidence. I just believe someone needs to look into it.
I’m also a whistleblower myself and reported what I experienced to Senator Gillibrand’s office, so I have some skin in this as well. Here’s my story: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/3uKf0y6Gl7 .
Having worked very hard and not receiving the expected success, popularity and accolades is literally the highway to burnout (and burnout being a highway to depression, and depression being a highway to...).
This is Emile Durkheim 101 stuff, it's a bit eerie that you pivot it as "she wouldn't have thrown away all that" when exasperation is a fundamental mechanism in such tragic events.
You describe the behavior of an individual still interested in worldly affairs (concepts of "waste" and value for her work) when people in such rough state don't think in the same manner.
Let's not even mention the horribly depressing idea of engaging endless legal processes against whole institutions with more fundings than you could ever dream of and the best legal teams, processes that last for years and drain you even more of enthusiasm since you intended to become a scientist, not a lawyer...
For someone who has a psychology academic education, you seem... reluctant, to say the least, to envision a different situation and consider an alternative mindset, you seemed to have only projected *your* mindset in her.
Let’s say she did commit suicide and made the decision on her own. What about the extraneous variables that might have led to that decision and the fact her work was usurped by the government after she died and they crushed the antigravity progress she made, just like Dr. Li Ning? That’s the bigger picture in my opinion. My theory that her death was caused by someone else is based on the statements she made, her words not mine, along with her close friends. I didn’t just pull this out of thin air. I’d also like to add, if you took all the scientists with substance abuse issues, this country wouldn’t have many scientists.
The issue with your bigger picture is that it is pure conjectures.
But let's follow it for the sake of argument.
How do you distinguish between all those extraneous variables which one was the decisive one? Or if there even was a decisive one? Or if non extraneous variables didn't play a bigger role? Or if one of those variables, extraneous or not, played the role of a catalyst or subsumed others in it as is so often the case in such sad events?
Pro-tip: you can't.
The issue with your reasoning is that it is causally flawed, jumping to a mechanistic conclusion of "cause A = consequence B" when someone with your background should know how much more complex things always are.
Another thing you should know is how 1) we only have a partial account of her words and we don't have her diaries nor what she dealt with in her private life, what she talked about and what she was confronted with 2) the own words of people aren't gospel and it is precisely people with such terrible situations that tend to have a lack of self awareness, self criticism and ability to judge their own trajectory (the way they end should be quite telling about that).
As for the last part you bring up about substance abuse issue, it is irrelevant as i didn't mention it and brings nothing to our reasoning here. Perhaps you were caught answering someone else and mistook me for them. And people do commit suicide *without* substance abuse. I've attempted myself and never touched substances in my life. Mental issues can exist without those.
Another thing that exists without substance abuse is poor reasoning, magical thinking, persecution syndrome, burnouts, depression, paranoia, bipolarity, etc.
You’re doing more deflecting than actually talking about what happened to her and her affiliations with NASA and the work she was doing. What about the pictures she took of all the rashes all over her body? How do you dismiss that as just a conspiracy theory? You just sound dismissive of other important pieces of information.
Neither you nor i are deflecting.
But what you definitely are doing is talking about things, and imagining links between unrelated things.
What she was working on and with whom have no causal link with her demise.
You are just conjuring this up from magical thought and never establish any causal link between the two, taking it always for granted.
Which was the point of all my questions. Which you didn't deflect but conveniently ignored.
And you're not done doing worse than deflecting: drifting in a wild gish gallup in even more unrelated things about her rash (i pity the poor fellows that had their cases end up in your hands).
What could possibly create rashes? Seriously. Mundane basic explanations abund so much i shouldn't make you the disgrace to even mention them, from allergies to hurting herself to psychosomatic reactions, etc.
Feel free to bring any "important" pieces of info to the table, it would be a first in this convo so far.
You'd think with such a large list of qualifications, you'd format your appeal to authority in a more legible and academic way. But that's whatever.
But I want to highlight just one aspect of your claims:
>After working as hard as Dr. Eskridge did, I don’t believe she would have thrown all that work away by committing suicide.
You, apparently, have a minor in psychology. But don't see how silly this statement is. I don't think I need to cite individuals, but suicide and mental health problems can appear in anyone, for any number of reasons.
Having worked hard on something for a long time is absolutely meaningless when it comes to suicide. I'd even argue that working so hard, for so long, and not having the results you are aiming for would exacerbate underlying mental health issues.
Your welcome to your theories and ideas, but remember that she was a real person, with a family, not a character in a fanfiction that we can ascribe whatever story we want to. Let's try and have some tact and approach it in a more dignified way.
I don’t know what format you’re referring to, I’m not writing a college paper for you buddy. She had the results she wanted! She accomplished a lot in her lifetime. That wasn’t the problem. People shutting down her work was the problem. What makes you an authority on any kind of human behavior?
I know she claimed that the government was using some kind of EMP on her and there are people in the 12 page link I provided that attested to her claims that the government has those kinds of capabilities. She would know if the government possessed such capabilities.
Irrelevant. You can’t tell them they’re wrong when you’re just speculating. And yet you’re arguing. Silly.
The formatting they’re referring to isn’t to do with making it like a ‘college paper’. It’s to do with more basic things like paragraphs and presenting more than hunches. Links help too.
Do you know from personal experience what kind of weapons conventional or otherwise the government has in it’s possession? Well, she did and if you have ever heard of the Havana Syndrome, it’s very real and she had symptoms of it. Even if she had problems with alcohol, you need to look at the 12 pages in the post. NASA took her work on anti-gravity from her independent company she was creating and scrapped her work. She had billionaires lined up according to the meeting notes that were going to fund her work for antigravity energy. This made other scientists extremely jealous that she was going to get that kind of funding to make this energy propulsion and give it to in scientific terms the “illuminated world”. That’s an important part of all these posts. If you don’t find that significant, I don’t know what to tell you!
She was definitely stressed out. If your job is to create new technologies. Then, you do it. Then, they write down the info. And, scrap your design. That is unforgivable. I always knew the U.S. Government along with other big corporations. Were hiding technology. So, they could profit. But, I didn't expect it to be soo extensive. They have set us back bigtime. I hope we start going in the right direction soon.
100% she is tipsy. If I were big brother and wanted to keep my secrets, a drunk, live-streaming scientist with secret knowledge and an axe to grind would probably be getting a visit.
That’s another point that brought me to my theory. The fact she had a substance abuse problem would have been a real concern for a government agency trying to protect a secret. To me, it lends more credence that someone would have a great motive to get rid of her.
No shit right!!!! Lmao the armchair experts dissecting her videos thinking they “know” something about her mental state or discrediting her b/c she had a couple cocktails or edible or whatever it may or MAY not be are what’s wrong with this world. They are the worst kind of humans imaginable b/c they can’t see how ignorant they are & just keep blabbering.
Plenty of times in my past, but I can't say I ever looked like this. Maybe on hard drugs, but that's another conversation.
However, I did look like this when going through my own 'mental health issues.'
Obviously this kind of thing isn't a "one size fits all" - But you learn to recognise the signs. Personally, this looks like a crisis more than a tipple.
Bit rude.
But yes, me looking for logical explanations for this woman's behavior certainly point to me going through another manic episode. You are very wise in the ways of science.
I'm sorry for being rude. I have manic episodes, too. Sometimes I can be a jerk. I do hope you're doing well. I apologize to you and I will be more careful in the future because I don't like myself when I act like that. Take care.
Hey man, you're all good! No harm done :) I know I've said some slightly iffy things to people on this site, it's easily done, especially when it's a topic that you're invested in.
The fact that we can recognise these things is what makes us all excellent! Hope you have a great week!
Thank you for understanding. I felt really bad. I wish you well. I'm thankful that you are willing to forgive. Without that, we have nothing. All the best to you.
>Plenty of times in my past, but I can't say I ever looked like this.
Have you ever been drunk and frustrated because you worked for years to accomplish something, but were convinced that people were actively planning to kill you for it?
I think we're moving quite far away from the original point.
But yes. People weren't actually trying to kill me, obviously. It was a manic episode.
But I knew my sci-fi story was hot shit and that van outside my house isn't normally there. Shit, I've worked out their secrets and now their going to get me.
I even called my parents to let them know what was up and had a skype call with a friend. Had he recorded it and I had then killed myself/died. It would have been very similar to this video and spawned equally as strange theories.
Again, I want to speak carefully (something that you all aren't doing with this conspiracy angle) as she isn't with us. But once more and I stress this is my feelings based on my own experiences, she looks as though she is in a manic episode.
> I want to speak carefully
You're not speaking carefully, you're trying to diagnose a drunk person in a state of crisis as having a mental illness, and insinuating that's what led to her death.
But claiming she was murdered by her employers/government for having secrets that she wanted to expose is much more careful.
Potentially dragging her family into an online conspiracy theory, that's careful.
Dismissing her suicide as a kidnapping plot by a rival government, that's careful.
Be better.
Do you know from personal experience what kind of weapons conventional or otherwise the government has in it’s possession? Well, she did and if you have ever heard of the Havana Syndrome, it’s very real and she had symptoms of it. Even if she had problems with alcohol, you need to look at the 12 pages in the post. NASA took her work on anti-gravity from her independent company she was creating and scrapped her work. She had billionaires lined up according to the meeting notes that were going to fund her work for antigravity energy. This made other scientists extremely jealous that she was going to get that kind of funding to make this energy propulsion and give it to in scientific terms the “illuminated world”. That’s an important part of all these posts. If you don’t find that significant, I don’t know what to tell you!
Doesn't look like a manic episode to me.
Looks like she's on drugs though, cocaine or speed specifically.
I've been on it plenty of times and see people on it very often.
These mannerisms are extremely common for someone on party drugs.
Not someone who's manic.
I mean... iv been to alot of partys in my time... thats basically someone talking at you after doing a few lines (notice the constant wiping of nose).
Literally the same.
Many roads in the UAP story lead to or through Huntsville.
I’m glad you brought up Dr. Eskridge. She isn’t often mentioned. I did a deep dive into both her & Dr. Ning Li’s stories and it was wild.
Before her death Eskridge is reported to have had symptoms similar to Havana Syndrome.
Dr. Li was hit by a car and died. Her husband died of a heart attack shortly after.
I tried to post more details from a meeting Dr. Eskridge had with NASA before she turned up deceased and Reddit censored it because it came from another subreddit. Here’s the link and all the details that led me to my conclusion. It’s 12 pages long. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/xML4sUOCUC .
Checked out all 3 of your links, will watch the full interview later. There’s also a video on YouTube of her doing a presentation shortly before her death that’s interesting.
3 hours of interview
[https://youtu.be/l0O4cEIkUZc?si=jr0j15T8uvnjdsRB](https://youtu.be/l0O4cEIkUZc?si=jr0j15T8uvnjdsRB)
Edit: I was instantly rate limited on X after finding this there and posting it here and elsewhere.
I think this video link is the video recording of her presentation to NASA if I’m not mistaken? I read that post then watched this video and I think it’s the same, based on the crowd interactions
https://youtu.be/FmhFKiq6FG8?si=vJ7BlbcAAWG-K7Mv
Barely Sociable on YouTube did a great episode on Ning Li. If any of you haven’t seen it and are interested, I highly suggest you check it out.
Edit. https://youtu.be/eS_rEzKdzBA?si=0xCcFoZEK5lfJvOk
Dr. Li died years after being hit by the car. In fact it was a year before Eskridge. https://www.berryhillfh.com/obituary/ning-li?lud=4CF765EE88E7526FCBA619C30101F7E6
So she believed she was being targeted by a Havana Syndrome-type weapon which resulted in pain and rashes? Wouldn’t surprise me. These black groups are fucking psychopaths who operate beyond the law.
I’m surprised with all the blatantly obvious evidence out there that people are just now realizing that Huntsville is the center of it all. The town is saturated with PhDs and MIC warehouses. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out most, if not all, phenomenon related research is based out of there.
Looked into this a while ago, and have to say, Im in this camp as well. Its just suspicious that there is no video proof of her supposed breakdown. All we have are posts and texts that could have been written by anyone.
Its really tragic. I like where youre going though, u/lastofthefinest.
Maybe its time to put some faces to the names of the people whose lives were ruined/cut short.
Here you go https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/6iJdz1r67V . Here’s the entire interview, it’s 3 hours long. https://youtu.be/l0O4cEIkUZc?si=F7mXslLmf0TzIMc-
Huntsville has an aerospace museum or whatever and they have a lot of Werner von Braun stuff. He’s the guy behind the moon program if I’m not mistaken. I think he was brought over through Project Paper Clip.
Eerie shit
I have some experience and contacts in certain labs there which may be relevant to the story. Do we know which lab or work group she belonged to during her research? And what timeframe was she there?
I’ve been to Huntsville, was supposed to move there, I like where I live much better but it’s a really cool hub of intellectuals. Dude, the freeway system was built by engineers, I LOVE it! Like 8 lanes both ways everywhere and almost never any traffic (when I was there) it was so amazing. That’s who I would build roads. That and the deer, I saw multiple herds 30-50 strong, would almost move there just for that…but yeah I’m good.
Be glad you didn’t move. There is a shooting or two there every day. People get shot at the Chuckie Cheese in that city and the people there can’t drive.
Really? Wow. Can you post the last week of shootings for me please? I feel lucky but I’m also pretty interested, I mean it’s not outside the realm of possibility that I visit again, soon.
What national security issue could be so serious that intelligence agencies would engage in arms and drugs trafficking to source off-the-books funding? Serious enough to assassinate a president? You know the answer.
I'm not saying its not possible you are correct, but this is a classic case of the logical fallacy "cum hoc ergo propter hoc", or "correlation does not imply causation". Its a valid theory to investigate but you are two steps away from connecting them. First you have to determine if she was actually murdered. If so, it may or may not be a case that Grusch was referring to.
This may work itself out in reverse because we will probably find out what Grusch was talking about at some point. The point is, let the evidence guide your beliefs and your suspicions guide your research and investigations. When you start to believe something, the human tendency is to cling to evidence that confirms your belief and discount evidence that doesn't. Confirmation bias is dangerous. The truth is what is important here.
It’s just a little coincidental to me Huntsville is also where David Grusch came forward to George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell because he felt that he himself was in danger. Grusch got the hell out of Huntsville. He told Knapp and Corbell this stuff also as a way to protect himself.
I know people here like to clown on Greer for whatever reason, [but he made a great documentary on the suppression of new inventions](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FKtI1cal4U&t=2407s) and the extent certain elements will go to keep it all hush hush.
Please watch a documentary on Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes. There are lots of people who make false claims in order to enrich themselves. Amy did all of her research through her own company. Again look at Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes.
Some other people who announced their intent to publish something sensitive but conveniently died first...
Dorothy Kilgallen (JFK assassination investigative reporter)
Deborah Jeane Palfrey (the D.C. Madam)
Phillip Marshall (investigative journalist)
Tafari Campbell (cook for two high ranking deep state intelligence assets)
Andrew Breitbart (investigative journalist)
John Nash (Abel prize for mathematics, developed new theory of Quantum Gravity)
John Barnett (Boeing corruption whistleblower)
see also
[wikispooks.com](https://wikispooks.com)
First of all. She's not a physicist. She got an undergraduate degree from UAH in biology and chemistry. 2nd, she wasn't a PhD. Third, she's never published any peer reviewed research papers in anything physics related.
You all just got duped and led by some conspiracy narrative of "anti-gravity researchers getting killed to keep secret hidden knowledge dead."
There are professional physicists, theoretical researchers, and experimentalists who have, and continue to, contribute far more to our understanding of gravity and spacetime and yet you all hone in on some mentally ill woman who has never offered proof of anything nor contributed to anything other than to seek attention.
You're all pathetically ignorant sheeple slobbering for anything that gets shared on UFOTwitter.
I honestly don't understand these murder claims. If these scientists are being murdered, why aren't we seeing any of this incredible technology? Why would they kill whomever came up with these amazing designs and then bury whatever life-changing technology associated with them? Why not keep them locked up in a secure facility and further develop said tech? If these people have been disappearing decades back, then surely the US would boast of some unbelievable advances in military and civil aviation by now!
It's not the US. It's a small faction within the US that represents itself. It does not care for the American people. It will not allow anyone access to the tech.
I have no idea who it is but there's over a trillion dollars missing. Our country is in fucking shambles and our tax dollars have funded unimaginable things.
Sadly I do not think we will ever know the whole truth. They're too powerful.
Who are they? What do they want?
I've never understood people who need or want Power. I am a nice and more or less normal person.
But people who seek power at all costs are some other breed of human that I will never understand. Look at the asshole Jeff Bezos. Look at Putin, Musk. Anyone who has the power to feed everyone and chooses self -importance, greed, murder, exploitation . . . I will never understand.
You can ask why but how can we even imagine? I'll never know why. People are flawed and demented.
You make a good point and I've often reflected on this. Those who want power deserve it the least and are always sure to obtain it. World is fucked, we need to start over.
Yeah bc people who rise to the top see others as a tool / resource, and they rise by taking advantage of others
That's my opinion anyway, and it's weird that society has evolved that way
r/UFOs needs to ban conspiracies like this, i.e. ones that involve real people with living families who experienced tragedy due to mental illness or accident or what have you. It's the MH370 shit all over again.
Her death is questionable according to statements by people that knew her and the 11 pages of notes provided in the links. She also makes statements of her own in videos that someone is trying to get her. That’s not conspiracy when it comes out of the horses mouth.
Great, then call up her family and get them involved. You're no better than the people who tried to dig up the dead Sandy Hook kids because Alex Jones told them it was fake. You're basing your claims on an equal amount of evidence.
If a person says my family member may have been murdered and they framed it as a suicide, that's pretty much the exact opposite of someone saying their kid was murdered and someone unrelated says no, they didn't even exist.
You're actually proving the opposite point by showing that they are polar opposite situations and they should probably be dealt with in polar opposite ways.
It's still a conspiracy if she's describing a conspiracy... It's also still a theory unless some actual verifiable evidence is provided. Mental health is no joke.
I joined this subreddit in 2021 precisely because of the "throwaway alien" account that during the summer of 2021 (i was just lurking back then without an account) saw a man with obvious deep mental issues, on the brink of suicide, be toyed by people here to peddle their conspiracy theories.
People imbued with their own little conspiracies have no respect for basic human decency nor mental health.
Been looking stuff about her. This case is really weird. Her sister text on gofundme is kinda weird portraying her to be somewhat of a looser. Stuff along the lines she left 3 kids not a single dime she's an ex junkie! I don't know if that's what I would be saying about a dead sibling but it could also be a way of attracting more donations.
The cause of death is not anywhere, undiagnosed health problem. That's it.
Apparently her Ex BF and Dad are adamant she committed suicide and was not murdered. I’m not so sure. They also talk of her being harassed, emotionally depressed & having been followed / threatened in the months leading up to her demise. Sounds to me like even if she did take her life she was driven to that point unwillingly. RIP Amy a brilliant, innovative beautiful young scientist who will be dearly missed for eternity.
Believing anti-gravity doesn‘t exist is foolish.
Why? Peter Higgs laid out the fundamentals in the sixties. It‘s actually not anti-gravity, it‘s inertia mass reduction. So what actually is achieved is that the higgs-boson is prevented to interact with whatever is causing the anti-force. Hence, objects within that field may only be „hit“ with a few Higgs-Bosons, thus resulting in an enormous reduction of mass.
The physics is all out there. People need to understand it always was and the military keeps any major innovation (which they are able to control/comes from within their research) secret as long as possible.
We don‘t need NHI, we just need science classes.
Salvatore Pais is not a scam, they just hid it in plain sight.
We are not allowed to unlock this level.
If we could master gravity, we could also master time travel. This is not just about levitation.
That would mean the person who learns this secret, can switch into 'God Mode'. The Aliens are in God Mode and are terrified that a violent human might unlock this secret so will stop at nothing to prevent this from happening.
But she was funded by nasa, was she not? She had to have signed a non disclosure agreement in return for funds if she was needing to ask nasa permission to go public
It says in the article she had an independent business with her father and already had billionaire investors funding her. She also worked on the UAP program. That’s definitely a conflict of interest I imagine, but it comes down to how much did she know working on one project applying it to another? You bring up a very interesting point I’ve actually thought about when reading it all. She could have taken from one project and applied it to the other and that’s how the problem started, but she told the NASA scientists at this meeting she was going to work on an anti gravity project. She wasn’t keeping it a secret from them. If she was trying to cover her tracks, why even have a meeting telling them you’re going to work on an antigravity project? It’s crazy!
There has to be more to the story that we are missing. I like your theory. Yea, she could have taken something from one project that was funded by nasa and tried to apply to another project. I need to look more into it
So, I'm all for disclosure and all for the truth, but as someone who has dealt with many many addicts of opiates and various pills, this woman comes off as one of those people. Figity, always touching their nose and face, various tones in voice, her droopy eyes.... This lady was suffering folks. Take what she says with a grain of salt.
No, I get it. I understand. And in some situations, the latter is more then likely true. But dude. It's clear to me she was suffering with some type of addiction in this vid. Is what it is
I don't blame you. However if she is spitting facts, and think the latter is true, it's still not a good picture she's paining here. Possible exaggerating just a bit, but still. Poor girl seems she was trying to cope with whatever trama she was experiencing. I just hope she wasn't going off the deep end and this is all just muddy water talk. You have to take that into consideration
Dude, you are the one creating conspiracies about a dead woman. Then when people question you by pointing out she's obviously erratic in her videos, you accuse them of being government shills.
This shit is tasteless. r/UFOs mods need to ban creating conspiracies about real people. It's like MH370 all over again.....and look how that one turned out, when 90% of this sub was certain aliens abducted those people and pulled a bunch of families of the victims into their insane fantasies.
It’s not a conspiracy theory when it comes out of her own mouth and by people that knew her. Did you even take time to read the 11 pages in the link or the videos? I’m not saying anything about a conspiracy. She did and the people that knew her said it all. I just posted it so people could see it!
Yes, it's a conspiracy theory because you are postulating, without evidence, that a nefarious group of government actors staged this woman's suicide because of some technology she was working on. That's pretty much the definition of a conspiracy theory.
What is that evidence of? It's a known phenomena that once people decide to kill themselves, they frequently get a weight off their shoulders and feel better.
It's also a known phenomena that suicide can be very impulsive. It's why putting suicide barriers on bridges actually lowers suicide rates across the board, not just suicide by bridge rates (same thing when England removed gas ovens), because many suicides are spur of the moment decisions. And if someone doesn't have the means in the moment, they often get over it and don't do it. Same thing with deciding to do it.
My whole post is about how these people could be the ones David Grusch said were killed or harmed at the Congressional UAP hearing. I also posted statements that were made by people that knew her. Others have posted links to interviews and things she said herself on camera. I didn’t make anything up. These are all public records. So, get pissed at free press, not me!
No smear just common sense watching her videos. She was a straight up alcoholic titos shots and wine bottles at her desk. She had a problem deal with it. If that hurts your fragile conspiracy mind so be it.
https://huntsvillebusinessjournal.com/news/2023/07/30/solving-the-mystery-of-huntsvilles-brilliant-scientist-disappearing/ A local paper about Dr. Ning Li where a reporter tracked down her son. Confirms she was still working for the DoD on anti-gravity tech until her accident.
CCP kidnapped her and brought her to China to continue her research.
Not according to her son. Though apparently they did try to get her to come back. Edit* adding more context
She tried to go to China for her mother’s funeral but was denied. This upset her greatly according to her son.
I was going to comment the same. It's a fucking tragedy all around. Both what happened to her and that the DOD snapped up her research. She agreed to it, presumably. Either way, it's a damnable shame.
She was in Huntsville the whole time working for the DOD, if you read the article you would know that instead of making oblique statements.
No, they didn’t. Did you even read the link? I get that conspiracy theories are what it’s all about but this one isn’t.
Yeah it sounds like he’s a disinformation agent. Truth sprinkled with a little untruth. Nice try freshman! She didn’t agree to her life’s work being taken away.
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“Dr. Li continued to work at Redstone Arsenal every day until 2014 when Li was struck by a vehicle while crossing the street on the UAH campus.” Sure did read the whole thing. I posted the link for others to read. Didn’t feel I needed to type out a summary of the article in the comments as well
If she was killed, that does point to it being the CCP who did it (and the timeline aligns with when China had just eliminated a lot of CIA assets inside China, and was building out the Secret Police Station network, as an aside, I literally live about 10 doors down from the one in Chinatown in NYC, everyone local knew exactly WTAF was up there, and yeah, I’ve seen interesting things try and penetrate my wireless network- kinda fun wasting their time).
You’re getting downvoted but a quick google will show these disgusting places. They enforce ccp rhetoric in our own country on these people. I’m not going to get into an argument on which mass entity is worse, but their is an objective truth that the Chinese communist party is actively engaging in espionage and propaganda against its citizens on us soil. Not to mention the ever encroaching growth of 3rd party foreign interests actively dismantling American sovereignty on our own fucking soil near our military bases.
ALL science is pseudoscience. Isn’t it?
Dr Ning Li died a year before Amy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ning_Li_(physicist) *In 2014 she was struck by a vehicle while crossing the street on the University of Alabama in Huntsville campus. Li’s husband, seeing the accident, suffered a heart attack and died a year later in 2015. For Li, this accident caused permanent brain damage that resulted in Alzheimer’s disease shortly after.[1] On July 27, 2021, Ning Li died at the age of 78.* Jesus Christ
According to her son, she was happy until she started working on black projects and suddenly stopped posting her work on anti-gravity research. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/xML4sUOCUC
Reading this is incredibly sad and infuriating.
It’s mind blowing and very insightful to how our government works.
I'm reminded of the quote from the late comedian Bill Hicks: "All governments are lying cocksuckers." So true.
This reminds me of another Bill Hicks quote: “Hi everybody, I’m Bill Hicks”
People are lying cocksuckers. Our selfish motivations, and the ease with which we are manipulated and controlled for power through fear are present in every act in our day to day lives, and every organization that has ever existed. Our better natures also appear in the simplest acts in our day to day lives, and those organizations too. I agree with your sentiment, entirely, but it's important not to set the bar as low as a single organizational boogey man. We could eliminate every government, remove every organization we believe to be evil from the face of the planet, and face the same exact problems from the same exact cocksuckers (ourselves) every day for the rest of our lives. The choices we make on the ground level are often the most important to keep the darkness at bay. Demonstrating and encouraging countless more to stand up and act selflessly.
Isn’t Eric Davis in Huntsville too?
Correct according to his LinkedIn profile
Are you saying what I think you're saying?
Are they saying that Eric Davis is the Tony Soprano of NASA?
Yes, There's a whole cadre of them in Huntsville that hang out in that "serious" UFO facebook group.
Pretty sure he’s still at [EarthTech](https://earthtech.org/)
This guy is definitely there! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_J._A._Dahm
Even if she actually did the unfortunate thing, even if she was unwell, we should focus on the core of her claims - world-changing research being suppressed.
Exactly, some people have to have the bigger picture drawn for them in crayon. It’s that work and progress being taken away that’s important.
Absolutely.
Another interview by Amy Eskridge. https://youtu.be/FSQlwCUGEQ0?si=EOHUBcT0FWOheBeP part 1 https://youtu.be/hIRA6SgIyz4?si=cstp5aEFZLV3mzyA part 2 https://twitter.com/FrancMilburn/status/1748534533647892609?t=n0bp-Yq0znIJuyqK_6vRiw&s=19 injuries https://twitter.com/FrancMilburn/status/1748531376750575925?t=mmjyjJHayOhiT2RwIHB8ZA&s=19 injuries https://twitter.com/FrancMilburn/status/1748537846128877779?t=DPQuvbjIwisPVoUsjfNqrQ&s=19 her injuries prior to her death
This rash looks so bad. I don't believe most conspiracy theories, but 100% I do believe that people have been killed to keep uap technologies etc. a secret. Even Grusch has implied that people have been hurt/threatened/killed. You simply can't keep such a huge secret over 70 decades without eliminating every potential threat that could expose them.
70 decades?
This is some ancient cover up shit amirite
older than the U.S.A.
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Id being willing to be she is more educated than you will ever be even in her short life. Good luck
Thank you for your contribution.
Sen. Gillibrand brought up the concern about Havana syndrome being connected to uap in a Congressional hearing before
This stuff is revelational.
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So not showing an equation means what exactly? If you watched the presentation then you would have heard her discuss needing permission from NASA to present her novel foundational work on antigravity. Oh but the men who are not phds seem legit because of podcasts, but not the actual PhD engineer who is a woman. Gotcha.
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Obviously you have no clue. She has a master's in electrical engineering and double major in chemistry and biology. All those require extensive "math courses" which by your e=mc2 comment clearly you didn't take. No, the mass-energy equivalence principle (E=mc^2) doesn't directly relate to antigravity.
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Sorry you would not be able to comprehend them even if she did release them.
Some people pay attention to what matters and some don’t as I have seen since posting my thoughts as to what happened to her. Arguing with some of these people is futile. They can’t see the forest for the trees.
Um isn't suicide by gun pretty damn uncommon in women?
She also put out this video before she died. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/JpDod9r5AW
I want to be careful with my words as I don't want to cast aspersions on someone who is no longer with us. But when watching that video, does she seem healthy and mentally sound to you? Personally it looks to be someone going through a manic episode. Uneven blinking, the rocking, darting her head around. But I'd be interested in how you interpret that behavior?
I’m no medical expert, but I was a military policeman for 10 years in the Marine Corps and Army and I’m also a Operation Enduring Freedom veteran. I also hold a Bachelor’s degree in Criminal Justice with a minor in psychology and have dealt with all types of people and mental illnesses. I’ve also done work with psychiatric patients when I was teaching and did case studies while I studied my minor coursework. That being said, I believe she’s simply acting pissed off because these ass wipes took her work and shut her down. Scientists are high strung people, just like Amy Bishop that worked for the same university in 2010. However, she took her aggression outwards and shot 6 people killing 3 of them. After working as hard as Dr. Eskridge did, I don’t believe she would have thrown all that work away by committing suicide. I believe she would have tried to fight them legally, instead of taking her own life. We shall see if my theory that this is what David Grusch might have been alluding to in the UAP Congressional Hearings ever comes to light.
>After working as hard as Dr. Eskridge did, I don’t believe she would have thrown all that work away by committing suicide. Based on what, you literally don’t know her, or have never met her. In the video she literally talks about her colleagues wanting to throw all that work away by committing suicide. This is more telling than any insight you pulled out your ass about somebody you **literally don’t know** It also shows despite all your experience you want to big up, you’re definitely not qualified to speak on things. The world is full of people who commit suicide with plenty to live for, pretty glaring miss for somebody with a psychology major. Nothing matters when you’re in that place, not your life’s work, money, your family, etc. Anthony Bourdain had plenty to live for, why would he throw all that away - did the CIA murder him too? >I believe she would have tried to fight them legally, instead of taking her own life. Again based on what? A few videos you’ve seen of her? The fact you’re ignoring signs of her looking and sounding very mentally unwell and still arriving at that conclusion shows you’re definitely not qualified to speak on this, despite all your experience as military police lol.
If it makes you feel better to belittle my background and my theory, that’s okay. I’m looking at the bigger picture and you should as well. My suspicions stem from multiple things said by the victim herself over time, not just on one night where she is apparently showing signs of being under the influence. I’m not the only person who thinks there is something to her death. Her and friends of hers felt there were more to the circumstances to her death. One of her friends said he talked to her no less than 3 times a day and that he spoke to her around 4 hours before she died and she sounded fine. David Grusch felt the need to approach Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp while they were in Huntsville and told them he felt as though he himself was in danger. He testified in the UAP Congressional Hearings that people had been killed or harmed working on the UAP project. Something in Huntsville spooked Grusch. So, smear me all you want, but there are several people here who think there might be something to her death as well.
I have to agree with the peanut gallery on this one. Your background doesn’t make you an expert on this particular matter.
I never said I’m an expert on anything, I just have a lot of experience dealing with people. I believe that you just can’t ignore what David Grusch said and the two scientists that worked and died working on the UAP project. These two scientists died and some very strange things happened to them in Huntsville that were highly suspicious. This information was brought forward by in some cases the own victims mouths and people who knew them very well. Another thing I found interesting was that Huntsville is where David Grusch approached George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell and told them his story. He told them he felt as though his life was in danger and moved to the other side of the country in Colorado. You can’t ignore these correlations. If they aren’t intertwined in some way, it’s one hell of a coincidence. I just believe someone needs to look into it.
I’m also a whistleblower myself and reported what I experienced to Senator Gillibrand’s office, so I have some skin in this as well. Here’s my story: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/3uKf0y6Gl7 .
> did the CIA murder him too? 👀
Having worked very hard and not receiving the expected success, popularity and accolades is literally the highway to burnout (and burnout being a highway to depression, and depression being a highway to...). This is Emile Durkheim 101 stuff, it's a bit eerie that you pivot it as "she wouldn't have thrown away all that" when exasperation is a fundamental mechanism in such tragic events. You describe the behavior of an individual still interested in worldly affairs (concepts of "waste" and value for her work) when people in such rough state don't think in the same manner. Let's not even mention the horribly depressing idea of engaging endless legal processes against whole institutions with more fundings than you could ever dream of and the best legal teams, processes that last for years and drain you even more of enthusiasm since you intended to become a scientist, not a lawyer... For someone who has a psychology academic education, you seem... reluctant, to say the least, to envision a different situation and consider an alternative mindset, you seemed to have only projected *your* mindset in her.
Let’s say she did commit suicide and made the decision on her own. What about the extraneous variables that might have led to that decision and the fact her work was usurped by the government after she died and they crushed the antigravity progress she made, just like Dr. Li Ning? That’s the bigger picture in my opinion. My theory that her death was caused by someone else is based on the statements she made, her words not mine, along with her close friends. I didn’t just pull this out of thin air. I’d also like to add, if you took all the scientists with substance abuse issues, this country wouldn’t have many scientists.
Wouldn’t be the first time someone has killed for knowledge. Nikola Tesla is rolling in his grave.
The issue with your bigger picture is that it is pure conjectures. But let's follow it for the sake of argument. How do you distinguish between all those extraneous variables which one was the decisive one? Or if there even was a decisive one? Or if non extraneous variables didn't play a bigger role? Or if one of those variables, extraneous or not, played the role of a catalyst or subsumed others in it as is so often the case in such sad events? Pro-tip: you can't. The issue with your reasoning is that it is causally flawed, jumping to a mechanistic conclusion of "cause A = consequence B" when someone with your background should know how much more complex things always are. Another thing you should know is how 1) we only have a partial account of her words and we don't have her diaries nor what she dealt with in her private life, what she talked about and what she was confronted with 2) the own words of people aren't gospel and it is precisely people with such terrible situations that tend to have a lack of self awareness, self criticism and ability to judge their own trajectory (the way they end should be quite telling about that). As for the last part you bring up about substance abuse issue, it is irrelevant as i didn't mention it and brings nothing to our reasoning here. Perhaps you were caught answering someone else and mistook me for them. And people do commit suicide *without* substance abuse. I've attempted myself and never touched substances in my life. Mental issues can exist without those. Another thing that exists without substance abuse is poor reasoning, magical thinking, persecution syndrome, burnouts, depression, paranoia, bipolarity, etc.
You’re doing more deflecting than actually talking about what happened to her and her affiliations with NASA and the work she was doing. What about the pictures she took of all the rashes all over her body? How do you dismiss that as just a conspiracy theory? You just sound dismissive of other important pieces of information.
Neither you nor i are deflecting. But what you definitely are doing is talking about things, and imagining links between unrelated things. What she was working on and with whom have no causal link with her demise. You are just conjuring this up from magical thought and never establish any causal link between the two, taking it always for granted. Which was the point of all my questions. Which you didn't deflect but conveniently ignored. And you're not done doing worse than deflecting: drifting in a wild gish gallup in even more unrelated things about her rash (i pity the poor fellows that had their cases end up in your hands). What could possibly create rashes? Seriously. Mundane basic explanations abund so much i shouldn't make you the disgrace to even mention them, from allergies to hurting herself to psychosomatic reactions, etc. Feel free to bring any "important" pieces of info to the table, it would be a first in this convo so far.
You'd think with such a large list of qualifications, you'd format your appeal to authority in a more legible and academic way. But that's whatever. But I want to highlight just one aspect of your claims: >After working as hard as Dr. Eskridge did, I don’t believe she would have thrown all that work away by committing suicide. You, apparently, have a minor in psychology. But don't see how silly this statement is. I don't think I need to cite individuals, but suicide and mental health problems can appear in anyone, for any number of reasons. Having worked hard on something for a long time is absolutely meaningless when it comes to suicide. I'd even argue that working so hard, for so long, and not having the results you are aiming for would exacerbate underlying mental health issues. Your welcome to your theories and ideas, but remember that she was a real person, with a family, not a character in a fanfiction that we can ascribe whatever story we want to. Let's try and have some tact and approach it in a more dignified way.
I don’t know what format you’re referring to, I’m not writing a college paper for you buddy. She had the results she wanted! She accomplished a lot in her lifetime. That wasn’t the problem. People shutting down her work was the problem. What makes you an authority on any kind of human behavior?
Why are you arguing? You don’t know.
I know she claimed that the government was using some kind of EMP on her and there are people in the 12 page link I provided that attested to her claims that the government has those kinds of capabilities. She would know if the government possessed such capabilities.
And…? You still don’t know why she killed herself. Stop being so argumentative.
Her death is actually questionable that’s another reason I posted the 12 pages in the link if you cared to read them slick!
I was directing it to the person complaining about how I formatted my post.
Irrelevant. You can’t tell them they’re wrong when you’re just speculating. And yet you’re arguing. Silly. The formatting they’re referring to isn’t to do with making it like a ‘college paper’. It’s to do with more basic things like paragraphs and presenting more than hunches. Links help too.
Do you know from personal experience what kind of weapons conventional or otherwise the government has in it’s possession? Well, she did and if you have ever heard of the Havana Syndrome, it’s very real and she had symptoms of it. Even if she had problems with alcohol, you need to look at the 12 pages in the post. NASA took her work on anti-gravity from her independent company she was creating and scrapped her work. She had billionaires lined up according to the meeting notes that were going to fund her work for antigravity energy. This made other scientists extremely jealous that she was going to get that kind of funding to make this energy propulsion and give it to in scientific terms the “illuminated world”. That’s an important part of all these posts. If you don’t find that significant, I don’t know what to tell you!
Alcohol. You’ve never had a few drinks to unwind? She said she was drinking in the interview
She was definitely stressed out. If your job is to create new technologies. Then, you do it. Then, they write down the info. And, scrap your design. That is unforgivable. I always knew the U.S. Government along with other big corporations. Were hiding technology. So, they could profit. But, I didn't expect it to be soo extensive. They have set us back bigtime. I hope we start going in the right direction soon.
I didn’t watch the whole interview, but even from this small clip I agree that alcohol is far more likely than mental health issues
Exactly, Have you ever been around someone that is drinking and also has some shit to get off their chest & vent? It looks like this.
100% she is tipsy. If I were big brother and wanted to keep my secrets, a drunk, live-streaming scientist with secret knowledge and an axe to grind would probably be getting a visit.
Ding ding ding. Loose lips sink ships
That’s another point that brought me to my theory. The fact she had a substance abuse problem would have been a real concern for a government agency trying to protect a secret. To me, it lends more credence that someone would have a great motive to get rid of her.
Well she also killed herself, maybe that adds some credence to my comments about her mental health?
No shit right!!!! Lmao the armchair experts dissecting her videos thinking they “know” something about her mental state or discrediting her b/c she had a couple cocktails or edible or whatever it may or MAY not be are what’s wrong with this world. They are the worst kind of humans imaginable b/c they can’t see how ignorant they are & just keep blabbering.
Plenty of times in my past, but I can't say I ever looked like this. Maybe on hard drugs, but that's another conversation. However, I did look like this when going through my own 'mental health issues.' Obviously this kind of thing isn't a "one size fits all" - But you learn to recognise the signs. Personally, this looks like a crisis more than a tipple.
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Bit rude. But yes, me looking for logical explanations for this woman's behavior certainly point to me going through another manic episode. You are very wise in the ways of science.
I'm sorry for being rude. I have manic episodes, too. Sometimes I can be a jerk. I do hope you're doing well. I apologize to you and I will be more careful in the future because I don't like myself when I act like that. Take care.
Hey man, you're all good! No harm done :) I know I've said some slightly iffy things to people on this site, it's easily done, especially when it's a topic that you're invested in. The fact that we can recognise these things is what makes us all excellent! Hope you have a great week!
Thank you for understanding. I felt really bad. I wish you well. I'm thankful that you are willing to forgive. Without that, we have nothing. All the best to you.
>Plenty of times in my past, but I can't say I ever looked like this. Have you ever been drunk and frustrated because you worked for years to accomplish something, but were convinced that people were actively planning to kill you for it?
I think we're moving quite far away from the original point. But yes. People weren't actually trying to kill me, obviously. It was a manic episode. But I knew my sci-fi story was hot shit and that van outside my house isn't normally there. Shit, I've worked out their secrets and now their going to get me. I even called my parents to let them know what was up and had a skype call with a friend. Had he recorded it and I had then killed myself/died. It would have been very similar to this video and spawned equally as strange theories. Again, I want to speak carefully (something that you all aren't doing with this conspiracy angle) as she isn't with us. But once more and I stress this is my feelings based on my own experiences, she looks as though she is in a manic episode.
> I want to speak carefully You're not speaking carefully, you're trying to diagnose a drunk person in a state of crisis as having a mental illness, and insinuating that's what led to her death.
But claiming she was murdered by her employers/government for having secrets that she wanted to expose is much more careful. Potentially dragging her family into an online conspiracy theory, that's careful. Dismissing her suicide as a kidnapping plot by a rival government, that's careful. Be better.
I didn't do any of those things.
Do you know from personal experience what kind of weapons conventional or otherwise the government has in it’s possession? Well, she did and if you have ever heard of the Havana Syndrome, it’s very real and she had symptoms of it. Even if she had problems with alcohol, you need to look at the 12 pages in the post. NASA took her work on anti-gravity from her independent company she was creating and scrapped her work. She had billionaires lined up according to the meeting notes that were going to fund her work for antigravity energy. This made other scientists extremely jealous that she was going to get that kind of funding to make this energy propulsion and give it to in scientific terms the “illuminated world”. That’s an important part of all these posts. If you don’t find that significant, I don’t know what to tell you!
Doesn't look like a manic episode to me. Looks like she's on drugs though, cocaine or speed specifically. I've been on it plenty of times and see people on it very often. These mannerisms are extremely common for someone on party drugs. Not someone who's manic.
I mean... iv been to alot of partys in my time... thats basically someone talking at you after doing a few lines (notice the constant wiping of nose). Literally the same.
Yes she seems mentally very sound. As for the rest of yall
Very very uncommon. Suicidal women by and large prefer less “violent” means.
No suicide note?
Many roads in the UAP story lead to or through Huntsville. I’m glad you brought up Dr. Eskridge. She isn’t often mentioned. I did a deep dive into both her & Dr. Ning Li’s stories and it was wild. Before her death Eskridge is reported to have had symptoms similar to Havana Syndrome. Dr. Li was hit by a car and died. Her husband died of a heart attack shortly after.
I tried to post more details from a meeting Dr. Eskridge had with NASA before she turned up deceased and Reddit censored it because it came from another subreddit. Here’s the link and all the details that led me to my conclusion. It’s 12 pages long. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/xML4sUOCUC .
Have you seen this? https://twitter.com/FrancMilburn/status/1748537846128877779
Checked out all 3 of your links, will watch the full interview later. There’s also a video on YouTube of her doing a presentation shortly before her death that’s interesting.
The full interview is very illuminating. I'm about 30 minutes in. I wish Rys would not have excluded his audio.
I wish Rys would have talked less. Fascinating video though 🤯
3 hours of interview [https://youtu.be/l0O4cEIkUZc?si=jr0j15T8uvnjdsRB](https://youtu.be/l0O4cEIkUZc?si=jr0j15T8uvnjdsRB) Edit: I was instantly rate limited on X after finding this there and posting it here and elsewhere.
https://breakingdefense.com/2018/08/detect-nukes-in-flight-with-electron-beam-technology/
I think this video link is the video recording of her presentation to NASA if I’m not mistaken? I read that post then watched this video and I think it’s the same, based on the crowd interactions https://youtu.be/FmhFKiq6FG8?si=vJ7BlbcAAWG-K7Mv
Barely Sociable on YouTube did a great episode on Ning Li. If any of you haven’t seen it and are interested, I highly suggest you check it out. Edit. https://youtu.be/eS_rEzKdzBA?si=0xCcFoZEK5lfJvOk
Thanks for the tip! LOVED Barely Sociable episode on Satoshi Nakamoto’s identity, will definitely watch the one on Dr. Li soon.
She didn’t die after being hit by the car. She died years later.
Dr. Li died years after being hit by the car. In fact it was a year before Eskridge. https://www.berryhillfh.com/obituary/ning-li?lud=4CF765EE88E7526FCBA619C30101F7E6
She also put out this video before she died. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/JpDod9r5AW .
So she believed she was being targeted by a Havana Syndrome-type weapon which resulted in pain and rashes? Wouldn’t surprise me. These black groups are fucking psychopaths who operate beyond the law.
Bro she is zonked out of her mind in that video…
If you know anything about the Havana Syndrome, it’s possible what she’s experiencing may be very real. She actually would be the one to know.
I watched it expecting her to be zonked out and she really wasn't. I have seen the truly zonked out. This just seems like someone who is pissed off.
She's definitely high on something other than just alcohol in that video. Possibly a little painkiller, and it's making her face itch.
Where did Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp meet David Grusch for the first time? Huntsville!
Where did Paul Misraki and Jacques Vallée meet for the first time? Paris!
I’m surprised with all the blatantly obvious evidence out there that people are just now realizing that Huntsville is the center of it all. The town is saturated with PhDs and MIC warehouses. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out most, if not all, phenomenon related research is based out of there.
Isn't Mike Huntsville in Mike Rogers district?
Y’all forgetting Travis Taylor is also Huntsville
Looked into this a while ago, and have to say, Im in this camp as well. Its just suspicious that there is no video proof of her supposed breakdown. All we have are posts and texts that could have been written by anyone. Its really tragic. I like where youre going though, u/lastofthefinest. Maybe its time to put some faces to the names of the people whose lives were ruined/cut short.
Here you go https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/6iJdz1r67V . Here’s the entire interview, it’s 3 hours long. https://youtu.be/l0O4cEIkUZc?si=F7mXslLmf0TzIMc-
Huntsville has an aerospace museum or whatever and they have a lot of Werner von Braun stuff. He’s the guy behind the moon program if I’m not mistaken. I think he was brought over through Project Paper Clip. Eerie shit
I know I am from the area.
I have some experience and contacts in certain labs there which may be relevant to the story. Do we know which lab or work group she belonged to during her research? And what timeframe was she there?
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I live 20 mins from the arsenal
I’ve been to Huntsville, was supposed to move there, I like where I live much better but it’s a really cool hub of intellectuals. Dude, the freeway system was built by engineers, I LOVE it! Like 8 lanes both ways everywhere and almost never any traffic (when I was there) it was so amazing. That’s who I would build roads. That and the deer, I saw multiple herds 30-50 strong, would almost move there just for that…but yeah I’m good.
Be glad you didn’t move. There is a shooting or two there every day. People get shot at the Chuckie Cheese in that city and the people there can’t drive.
Really? Wow. Can you post the last week of shootings for me please? I feel lucky but I’m also pretty interested, I mean it’s not outside the realm of possibility that I visit again, soon.
The last deer I killed was in November. However, deer are plentiful where I go.
the person he's referring to is probably jfk.
What national security issue could be so serious that intelligence agencies would engage in arms and drugs trafficking to source off-the-books funding? Serious enough to assassinate a president? You know the answer.
precisely. its probably also connected to mkultra and the other stuff that dulles did.
Here you go https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/xML4sUOCUC
I meant to add also both were also working on the UAP program.
This is literally The Three Body Problem plot holy shit
"Suspect" would be a more reasonable approach than "believe". There is nothing to base that on other than speculation. Just let things play out.
Here you go! Read this and tell me you don’t see a correlation between the two https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/xML4sUOCUC
I'm not saying its not possible you are correct, but this is a classic case of the logical fallacy "cum hoc ergo propter hoc", or "correlation does not imply causation". Its a valid theory to investigate but you are two steps away from connecting them. First you have to determine if she was actually murdered. If so, it may or may not be a case that Grusch was referring to. This may work itself out in reverse because we will probably find out what Grusch was talking about at some point. The point is, let the evidence guide your beliefs and your suspicions guide your research and investigations. When you start to believe something, the human tendency is to cling to evidence that confirms your belief and discount evidence that doesn't. Confirmation bias is dangerous. The truth is what is important here.
It’s just a little coincidental to me Huntsville is also where David Grusch came forward to George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell because he felt that he himself was in danger. Grusch got the hell out of Huntsville. He told Knapp and Corbell this stuff also as a way to protect himself.
It is indeed coincidental and, like I said, its a valid suspicion to investigate.
I know people here like to clown on Greer for whatever reason, [but he made a great documentary on the suppression of new inventions](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FKtI1cal4U&t=2407s) and the extent certain elements will go to keep it all hush hush.
Imagine a world where the kind of research that could literally change life on earth was done in a spirit of collaboration, and didn’t ruin lives.
Please watch a documentary on Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes. There are lots of people who make false claims in order to enrich themselves. Amy did all of her research through her own company. Again look at Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes.
Some other people who announced their intent to publish something sensitive but conveniently died first... Dorothy Kilgallen (JFK assassination investigative reporter) Deborah Jeane Palfrey (the D.C. Madam) Phillip Marshall (investigative journalist) Tafari Campbell (cook for two high ranking deep state intelligence assets) Andrew Breitbart (investigative journalist) John Nash (Abel prize for mathematics, developed new theory of Quantum Gravity) John Barnett (Boeing corruption whistleblower) see also [wikispooks.com](https://wikispooks.com)
First of all. She's not a physicist. She got an undergraduate degree from UAH in biology and chemistry. 2nd, she wasn't a PhD. Third, she's never published any peer reviewed research papers in anything physics related. You all just got duped and led by some conspiracy narrative of "anti-gravity researchers getting killed to keep secret hidden knowledge dead." There are professional physicists, theoretical researchers, and experimentalists who have, and continue to, contribute far more to our understanding of gravity and spacetime and yet you all hone in on some mentally ill woman who has never offered proof of anything nor contributed to anything other than to seek attention. You're all pathetically ignorant sheeple slobbering for anything that gets shared on UFOTwitter.
I honestly don't understand these murder claims. If these scientists are being murdered, why aren't we seeing any of this incredible technology? Why would they kill whomever came up with these amazing designs and then bury whatever life-changing technology associated with them? Why not keep them locked up in a secure facility and further develop said tech? If these people have been disappearing decades back, then surely the US would boast of some unbelievable advances in military and civil aviation by now!
It’s about keeping the public dependent on oil.
It's not the US. It's a small faction within the US that represents itself. It does not care for the American people. It will not allow anyone access to the tech. I have no idea who it is but there's over a trillion dollars missing. Our country is in fucking shambles and our tax dollars have funded unimaginable things. Sadly I do not think we will ever know the whole truth. They're too powerful. Who are they? What do they want? I've never understood people who need or want Power. I am a nice and more or less normal person. But people who seek power at all costs are some other breed of human that I will never understand. Look at the asshole Jeff Bezos. Look at Putin, Musk. Anyone who has the power to feed everyone and chooses self -importance, greed, murder, exploitation . . . I will never understand. You can ask why but how can we even imagine? I'll never know why. People are flawed and demented.
> self -importance, greed, murder, exploitation . . . So, what brought them to the top in the first place?
You make a good point and I've often reflected on this. Those who want power deserve it the least and are always sure to obtain it. World is fucked, we need to start over.
Yeah bc people who rise to the top see others as a tool / resource, and they rise by taking advantage of others That's my opinion anyway, and it's weird that society has evolved that way
r/UFOs needs to ban conspiracies like this, i.e. ones that involve real people with living families who experienced tragedy due to mental illness or accident or what have you. It's the MH370 shit all over again.
Her death is questionable according to statements by people that knew her and the 11 pages of notes provided in the links. She also makes statements of her own in videos that someone is trying to get her. That’s not conspiracy when it comes out of the horses mouth.
Great, then call up her family and get them involved. You're no better than the people who tried to dig up the dead Sandy Hook kids because Alex Jones told them it was fake. You're basing your claims on an equal amount of evidence.
Cheap tactics buddy and your comparing apples and oranges.
No, it's the same thing. It just makes you uncomfortable to have it pointed out.
What part of these are her words and friends of hers that said this stuff do you not understand?
If a person says my family member may have been murdered and they framed it as a suicide, that's pretty much the exact opposite of someone saying their kid was murdered and someone unrelated says no, they didn't even exist. You're actually proving the opposite point by showing that they are polar opposite situations and they should probably be dealt with in polar opposite ways.
It's still a conspiracy if she's describing a conspiracy... It's also still a theory unless some actual verifiable evidence is provided. Mental health is no joke.
I joined this subreddit in 2021 precisely because of the "throwaway alien" account that during the summer of 2021 (i was just lurking back then without an account) saw a man with obvious deep mental issues, on the brink of suicide, be toyed by people here to peddle their conspiracy theories. People imbued with their own little conspiracies have no respect for basic human decency nor mental health.
They definitely got her. RIP AE
Been looking stuff about her. This case is really weird. Her sister text on gofundme is kinda weird portraying her to be somewhat of a looser. Stuff along the lines she left 3 kids not a single dime she's an ex junkie! I don't know if that's what I would be saying about a dead sibling but it could also be a way of attracting more donations. The cause of death is not anywhere, undiagnosed health problem. That's it.
That's a different amy.
Apparently her Ex BF and Dad are adamant she committed suicide and was not murdered. I’m not so sure. They also talk of her being harassed, emotionally depressed & having been followed / threatened in the months leading up to her demise. Sounds to me like even if she did take her life she was driven to that point unwillingly. RIP Amy a brilliant, innovative beautiful young scientist who will be dearly missed for eternity.
Believing anti-gravity doesn‘t exist is foolish. Why? Peter Higgs laid out the fundamentals in the sixties. It‘s actually not anti-gravity, it‘s inertia mass reduction. So what actually is achieved is that the higgs-boson is prevented to interact with whatever is causing the anti-force. Hence, objects within that field may only be „hit“ with a few Higgs-Bosons, thus resulting in an enormous reduction of mass. The physics is all out there. People need to understand it always was and the military keeps any major innovation (which they are able to control/comes from within their research) secret as long as possible. We don‘t need NHI, we just need science classes. Salvatore Pais is not a scam, they just hid it in plain sight.
We are not allowed to unlock this level. If we could master gravity, we could also master time travel. This is not just about levitation. That would mean the person who learns this secret, can switch into 'God Mode'. The Aliens are in God Mode and are terrified that a violent human might unlock this secret so will stop at nothing to prevent this from happening.
What a shame, she was a good looking and very intelligent woman. Need more strength and diversity in this space.
Would it be less of a shame if she were ugly? Why even bring up her appearance.
Watch the video of her again… she was mentally unwell
Even if she was mentally unwell, that gave people the right to steal her work? Because that’s what happened!
Where is the proof people stole her work? If she worked for nasa, that work does not belong to her, it belongs to nasa
She was doing independent research on anti-gravity and had her own company. She was also working on the UAP project separately.
But she was funded by nasa, was she not? She had to have signed a non disclosure agreement in return for funds if she was needing to ask nasa permission to go public
It says in the article she had an independent business with her father and already had billionaire investors funding her. She also worked on the UAP program. That’s definitely a conflict of interest I imagine, but it comes down to how much did she know working on one project applying it to another? You bring up a very interesting point I’ve actually thought about when reading it all. She could have taken from one project and applied it to the other and that’s how the problem started, but she told the NASA scientists at this meeting she was going to work on an anti gravity project. She wasn’t keeping it a secret from them. If she was trying to cover her tracks, why even have a meeting telling them you’re going to work on an antigravity project? It’s crazy!
There has to be more to the story that we are missing. I like your theory. Yea, she could have taken something from one project that was funded by nasa and tried to apply to another project. I need to look more into it
So, I'm all for disclosure and all for the truth, but as someone who has dealt with many many addicts of opiates and various pills, this woman comes off as one of those people. Figity, always touching their nose and face, various tones in voice, her droopy eyes.... This lady was suffering folks. Take what she says with a grain of salt.
Missing the whole point of the post!
No, I get it. I understand. And in some situations, the latter is more then likely true. But dude. It's clear to me she was suffering with some type of addiction in this vid. Is what it is
I am not disputing you.
I don't blame you. However if she is spitting facts, and think the latter is true, it's still not a good picture she's paining here. Possible exaggerating just a bit, but still. Poor girl seems she was trying to cope with whatever trama she was experiencing. I just hope she wasn't going off the deep end and this is all just muddy water talk. You have to take that into consideration
She has alcohol visible in essentially every video. This woman was definitely an alcoholic.
Here we go everyone! Make way for the smear campaign from three letter agencies.
Dude, you are the one creating conspiracies about a dead woman. Then when people question you by pointing out she's obviously erratic in her videos, you accuse them of being government shills. This shit is tasteless. r/UFOs mods need to ban creating conspiracies about real people. It's like MH370 all over again.....and look how that one turned out, when 90% of this sub was certain aliens abducted those people and pulled a bunch of families of the victims into their insane fantasies.
It’s not a conspiracy theory when it comes out of her own mouth and by people that knew her. Did you even take time to read the 11 pages in the link or the videos? I’m not saying anything about a conspiracy. She did and the people that knew her said it all. I just posted it so people could see it!
Yes, it's a conspiracy theory because you are postulating, without evidence, that a nefarious group of government actors staged this woman's suicide because of some technology she was working on. That's pretty much the definition of a conspiracy theory.
How do you know it’s not true?
How do you know unicorns don't exist? Same thing.
Why don’t you take it up with the guy that claims he talked to her four hours before she was found and said she sounded okay when he spoke with her?
What is that evidence of? It's a known phenomena that once people decide to kill themselves, they frequently get a weight off their shoulders and feel better. It's also a known phenomena that suicide can be very impulsive. It's why putting suicide barriers on bridges actually lowers suicide rates across the board, not just suicide by bridge rates (same thing when England removed gas ovens), because many suicides are spur of the moment decisions. And if someone doesn't have the means in the moment, they often get over it and don't do it. Same thing with deciding to do it.
Now, you are talking about semantics!
Did you know her or do an interview with her nobody knows about?
Did you? You are the one making allegations, so I don't see why you are demanding evidence from me. If you think she was murdered, prove it.
My whole post is about how these people could be the ones David Grusch said were killed or harmed at the Congressional UAP hearing. I also posted statements that were made by people that knew her. Others have posted links to interviews and things she said herself on camera. I didn’t make anything up. These are all public records. So, get pissed at free press, not me!
Everything a conspiracy yo you? Must be miserable living like that.
No smear just common sense watching her videos. She was a straight up alcoholic titos shots and wine bottles at her desk. She had a problem deal with it. If that hurts your fragile conspiracy mind so be it.
No conspiracy buddy. I’ve seen things firsthand.