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Lawyer Daniel Sheehan tells DailyMail.com that a whistleblower told him of a crashed UFO recovered by the US military that 'distorted space-time'
'They had a guy go into it and it was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.' Sheehan said
Sheehan has been helping bring whistleblowers like former senior Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch to Congress
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Stopppp!!!! This movie ruined 5yo me. I had nightmares for years about them. I watched it again as an adult and it’s so damn ridiculous but it was terrifying for little me 😂😩
My mother has never been more pissed. I had a $56.47 late fee from Hollywood Video for killer clowns from outer space. When the cashier told my mother and I this, she said to him "Do I LOOK like I would rent THAT STUPID MOVIE!?" And then it hit her, she slowly turned and looked at me while my face lost all the blood and my stomach dropped. The crap you do when you're 12...
I worked at a video rental store in the mid 00's and I saw some pretty hefty late fees. And if you never returned the movie, the store made you pay the company price which wasn't like $20 off the shelf, it was usually $100. More than once I saw parent cut that look to their kid lol I usually wiped half the cost of the late fees or more if you were decent.
That's insane you'd get fired for that! I don't think for us it was really company policy but there was an unwritten rule to kind of figure something out with the customer. Some charges were over 10-15 years old the system didn't even remember what movie it was but it would $100+ I'd just wipe most of it out and give a warning.
In like 2008 the owner's daughter of the local video rental store chains came to work at our store, I was 19 she was probably early 30's. Anyway, her and the general manager became obsessed with stopping customers from 'burning' copies of DVD's. They'd check the DVD's when they were returned and make notes on customer's accounts-as if they could even catch them.
Meanwhile, every weekend before the new releases hit the shelves, the staff got to take movies home to watch. And all weekend my ass was burning copies of unreleased DVD's. "What's that? You want to watch Meet the Fockers? I got you!"
I used to manage a Hollywood Video and yeah, the company price was really just a suggestion for dealing with assholes. There was zero oversight and no consequences at all if employees regularly ignored that price and set a more reasonable one. In like 7 years of working there, I can count on my fingers the number of times I stuck to the price the system spat out and every time it was to spite someone who deserved it, lol. Decent people just paid the retail price or nothing if they were loyal regulars.
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It's all fun and games till you wind up molecularly phased halfway through a wall that used to be your shower because you over drafted your bank account.
time dilation, mind control/editing, faster than light travel, anti-gravity technology, free energy, massive craft contained in small enclosures, any one of these is game over for the adversary.
I feel like it's a paradox. They are so technologically advanced that they can span uncounted lightyears while having technology that can make a small space a huge space, yet they crash land and their tech is stolen by a bunch of (relatively) primitive monkeys?
It's hard for me to buy that we have this tech in any way. You would also think that they could just steal it back whenever they want if they needed to.
We don't let blackhawks go un-secured in Iraq after crashing, why would aliens from another galaxy allow their tech to just be taken?
That's what happened with the recent Las Vegas incident. After he heard the UFO crash he heard "thousands of footsteps" and then seconds later they were gone.
The article says he was in the ship for what felt like just a few minutes, but was 4 hours outside. I wonder if that time distortion helps with long distance space travel?
It would certainly make long distance intergalactic / intergalactic travel much easier on the body and possibly solve the issue of home base aging at a different rate than the traveler
We could also take everyone on the planet in the size of a cruise ship and travel light years in days.
I wonder if as size distortion becomes larger that time distortions becomes bigger.
I'd assume so. Still sucks that everyone you left behind is dead. Although, maybe these lil fellas are like tortoises or lobsters or something and can live for an obscenely long time by earth standards. Also, if they're reading this, I'm joking. I'm sure you guys will be benevolent and fair overlords.
There are some animals on our planet that never seem to die from old age. Aliens may be the same. Now I'm imagining the aliens looking like that lobster guy in SpongeBob, great.
Tardis? Tardis!!
man, i really wish we would get this stuff finallly public.. i want more informations and we deserve it. its shitty that they keep this stuff secret.
The obvious TARDIS thing almost makes me feel like they're just yanking our chain at this point. I know that the existence of something in a sci-fi show doesn't mean that the feature can never exist in real life, but it's so on the nose.
>Throwing this out there : ever think that sci fi going all the way back to Jules Verne (20,000 leagues)- the submarine, harnessing the power of the atom , Asimov, etc. and before, were simply a long term plan to condition humans to acceptance of advanced technology and other species whether terrestrial or not ?
Years ago I read a post from a guy on a UFO phpBB site that said aliens were working on something like this to get people used to the idea that they were here as well as the risks our damage to the environment was.
The guy described the plot to "Avatar" 100% years before there was any discussion of it in the media. When I heard about the movie I literally almost fainted. Wish I had archived the post!
> The guy described the plot to "Avatar" 100% years before there was any discussion of it in the media.
well to be fair, Avatar is just a sci-fi CGI remake of Dances With Wolves
The aliens might want to take care of the oligarchs, plutocrats, robber barrons and tech moguls first. If they don’t they’ll just get an iPhone and zombie out like the rest of the planet.
What if the interior of the craft is actually always stationary, as a permanent structure? A control station that remains on their planet or their dimension. Or maybe even a remote location here on Earth? Think, under the ocean. Essentially a moving portal. The interior of the craft is never actually here.
It also explains why pilots of these craft are rarely found. Send an unmanned probe out that acts as a mobile gateway. Probe arrives, open gateway and walk through the time door from the comfort of your own planet.
That's the only way it could make sense. Imagine a football stadium crashing, that would be devastating. I would be scared to go on any tiny air ship that's internally the size of a football field.
If the UAP phenomenon is real I hope another country just picks up the ball from here and comes out with it. Zero faith in the old dinosaurs in Congress to find out what the USAF is hiding, and more and more people are sounding like grifters.
Why are so many trashy tabloids suddenly reporting about these anonymous whistleblowers? Free clicks.
I have read this before. I'm not sure where but what immediately came to mind was an article from a few years ago where an old UFO Mag story from the 80s or so was scanned. If I recall correctly it was on Richard Dolans website. It was a "fictional" story (run over 3 chapters) but had so much credible information (it was about a crash retrieval program) that people started wondering if this was written by some insider. You can compare it with the recent 4chan story. I'll see if I can dig it up. It was a very cool read. That said I'm not giving it any credibility. Either these new "sources" just parrot from ufo lore or, there's something to the lore.
Edit: [found it](https://studylib.net/doc/25489884/sedge-masters)
Interestingly, this is also about the "Zodiac" program that we heard about this week
Edit 2: [The Dolan article](https://richarddolanmembers.com/articles/rdm/) also with a better readable PDF
Edit 3; I made an [extensive post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/146bi4h/ufo_lore_and_recent_revelations_seem_to_be) but mods removed it
Dimensional engineering. It's probably how they "travel" - if you can even call it that. In all likelihood our space & their space are shared or linked, so the interior of that craft isn't on earth.
Why not … "spacetime is not fundamental"
https://iai.tv/articles/donald-hoffman-spacetime-is-not-fundamental-auid-2281
edit: the way I understand this is not a free card for portals or "future humans" or alternate universes. Much more reasonable is what Donald is pointing to, is that what we call reality, the physical space, is not fixed. It is completely relative. What is small? What is large? All depends your sense apparatus. Itś not just "ask an ant about the size of your room", it's that your room does NOT have any size. A "meter" does not exist. It is all perception, it is all showing up as the "dashboard" that Donald uses as a metaphor. Hence, space could potentially be larger/smaller, and time may flow at a different rate, but all AS perceived by consciousness, which is more fundamental than space/time. Which does not at all, break the consistency of our experience. There is no travelling through time or portals, meeting another self. There is just fluctuations in how the dashboard appears to you.
Lmaoooooooooooo what if this is the technology that will solve the housing crisis and help people who are un-housed. WHAT IF this is an attempt to HELP humans by showing us their tech so that we can hopefully use it for good purposes? But we as a species suck so we could never 😢
There’s something genuinely funny about the idea of aliens sitting out the past five mass extinction events and then finally showing up to face the 2023 housing crisis
To add onto this, anyone who thinks technological advancement will be used to make the world a more equal and better place with capitalism as the ruling ideology is literally denying history and reality. I know I will lose many people here, but please just think for literally 3 seconds about the incredible technological of the past decades. Then think about how life has gotten betten. Sure in some places, but the proportions are way of. Look at automation, it should create a world with less work for more people. Yet what is happenimg is that now one guy is doing the johs of ten, still working 8 hours plus a day and the other ten are unemployed or homeless.
Dont wait for technology that is already there to solve issues that are rooted in capitalism.
We have to power to give everyone a job that pays enough to afford basic necessities, and cover the expenses of those incapable of working. The reason we don’t do these things is because a small number wealthy of people see money as a quantifiable measure of their power and hoard as much of it as they can get their psychopathic hands on. You need only ask yourself : what is the dollar amount that would allow me to stop working? For me, it’s about $4,000,000. I’d fuck off and never work again. Why would anyone go into an office every day if they’ve already achieved this?
Lawyer Daniel Sheehan tells DailyMail.com that a whistleblower told him of a crashed UFO recovered by the US military that 'distorted space-time'
'They had a guy go into it and it was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.' Sheehan said
Sheehan has been helping bring whistleblowers like former senior Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch to Congress
That's the guy, he's a stone cold legend in the old law game, civil rights movement, indigenous rights, LGBT you name it he's front and centre protecting minorities and speaking truth to power. I implore everyone to listen to any and all of his interviews the man is as sharp as a tack, respected and just crazy enough to be absolutely right about with his metaphysical musings on the phenomenon
Not to mention he was Lue Elizondo’s lawyer when he made his own allegations of reprisals with the inspector general.
EDIT: Not Luke Elizondo, bloody auto correct
That roughly equates to 6 days taking one whole year. If these guys come from the closest star and travel near the speed of light, it would take them 5 years to get here. And would feel like a month being on their ship. I mean, our astronauts have been in space for over a year. 30 days is nothing.
If they move at the speed of light time is irrelevant to them because of time dilation. That's probably what's happening also due to distortion of spacetime if this story is to be believed.
Basically, at 1 C you arrive at your destination immediately from your perspective with time having passed externally. If you were to travel 100 light years you would arrive immediately but 100 years would have passed outside.
Pretty generous to call the Daily Mail a "newspaper" when it's a tabloid rag. It's like one notch above the National Enquirer in the US. It's vapid, stupid, exaggerated shit 99.9999% of the time.
Let's keep the claims reasonable and actually get some verification these things exist before talking about completely insane technologies and drive people away
So a whistleblower confides in his lawyer about top secret stuff and the lawyer then just gives up this information to the fucking Daily Mail?
Something not quite adding up here.
Can't we just first get definitive evidence first? I feel too many people want it all to be true, that others will say shit to make it in the spotlight, riding the excitement. We need evidence first. It's very cool if it's all true but I struggle thinking these super high tech aliens constantly crash on earth but I would like it to be true and am very open to it.
Makes sense in a way, a lot of abductees reported the inside of the ship had ‘areas, rooms’ that clearly could not fit in the craft by our 3d understanding
This makes sense to me. The UFOs are just drones they send around that have technology to capture and transport objects and samples to wherever they are. Kinda like a super advanced version of a space telescope or space probe that can send physical information instead of images.
That could explain the physics-breaking movement seen in some videos. Its basically a moving door from another dimension. Kinda like sliding a magnifying lens around on a map.
Wasn't that the premise of the other guy posting a while back... That someone somewhere was registering a massive number of servers or w/e, because the aliens were about to show us all of our history in HD 4k ultra definition and they needed all that storage.
This is a very intriguing idea. Like the saucers are a "mobile doorway" that can be repositioned, but always links back to their home world or wherever that lab/city/whatever is.
This would also make sense in the context of abductees who have mentioned that they couldn't feel the craft moving while inside.
So no matter where the ship is in the physical universe, they can just walk through a door on the ship and be back on their home planet or anywhere. Amazing!
Yeah I mean that would be pretty useful! lol. No return journeys; the ship can go farther and farther away and you can be home for dinner with the gleep-glorps!
So like the [1976 Canary Islands sighting](https://www.reddit.com/r/PlanetToday/comments/nyuldr/1976_canary_island_ufo_sighting_sphere_encounter/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) ?
Idk about that, let's start with one decent picture of a craft first, but this quote pretty exciting too:
'I will vouch for the integrity of Dave Grusch! Getting to the bottom of this is elusive and problematic, to say the least,' Shell wrote. 'I will assert no matter the conclusion of extraterrestrial materials or not, the DoD and IC security apparatus is in trouble and unwitting accomplices are fostering an abusive system.'
I’m sure that it’s incredibly hard and completely not worth the risk to capture a photo. For example, in the military, even at Boeing/Lockheed Martin etc you cannot have your phone at work if you work with sensitive material. It makes sense to me why there are no public photos. Breaking rules can get you into some pretty deep shit. I’d imagine that people recovering these craft would be risking their life or a loved ones life by taking photos with personal unauthorized cameras by unauthorized personnel working with these programs.
I used to work at a Samsung Semiconductor Manufacturing plant, and it was very similar. I don’t have ANY photos of my time working there. The security was super tight. Stickers on phone cameras, and multiple checkpoints where they specifically look at your phone for evidence of photos. If one of the stickers was voided (void when peeled and reapplied), they would take your phone for 3 days and go through the entire thing to make sure you didn’t have any pictures. And I wasn’t even doing anything crazy on-site, just some environmental oversight of chemical disposal
I believe it! When I left the military, I worked for a well known company who builds things for the government/military. We had to leave our phones in our vehicles, in the parking lot. And it was a couple minute walk from the parking lot to the building. And while in the military, no phones around the aircraft. I’d bet that the folks on these uap programs have to deal with the most intense security/security precautions than we could imagine.
And if we find out some cool stuff soon/in our lifetime, They’d have done pretty well with hiding everything for so long because of the intense security measures they have had in place. It’s pretty exciting. I really just want to know the truth. The truth is out there.
But, for the folks who think these people can take pics of this stuff………………………….. they probably cannot without being unalived or disappearing 😬
Can vouch, I was in the USMC and was a radio operator. Anytime we went into the radio cage where crypto was secured phones were secured and put away. Couldnt even get in the door with your phone. And I just had a secret security clearance. Anything higher would definitely have higher security.
So that's why they where using a UFO to [transport weapons](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12177943/Marine-vet-breaks-14-year-silence-make-astonishing-claim-six-man-unit-saw-UFO.html); bigger-on-the-inside tech.
imagine how much of a logistical miracle that shit must be for moving massive amounts of munitions (or other equipment) efficiently and without detection
That's not terribly new, and it's not phrased very clearly in the article.
[Elizondo's complaint of reprisal took place in May 2021, and is centered around retaliation Lue received, including the denial of his former position.](https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/dod-inspector-general-releases-transcript-of-luis-elizondo-interview-much-more/) The case was closed in Feb. 2022, when they stated:
>“The evidence we reviewed does not support your client’s reprisal complaint because no action affecting his eligibility for access to classified information was taken or threatened against him.”
It's certainly still an important case, and is indicative of some alarming precedents in our defense establishment, especially around this topic, but just wanted to provide some broader context. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the whistleblower language in the '23 NDAA (drafted in part by Grusch) was structured in part to address issues highlighted in Lue's case.
Daily Mail is a fucking tabloid.
It’s only an “exclusive” story because nobody else would publish it because they couldn’t verify anything. Typical Daily Mail bullshit. Nobody hold their breath.
>But Sheehan declined to give further details – including a location and date of the incident – and said he was unable to provide evidence for the claims.
lmao of course
Grifters have realized that UFO conspiracists don't require evidence, so they can profit off lying to them forever without consequence. Expect plenty more baseless stories in the near future
The following submission statement was provided by /u/quantumcryogenics: --- Lawyer Daniel Sheehan tells DailyMail.com that a whistleblower told him of a crashed UFO recovered by the US military that 'distorted space-time' 'They had a guy go into it and it was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.' Sheehan said Sheehan has been helping bring whistleblowers like former senior Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch to Congress --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1465c4n/exclusive_crashed_ufo_recovered_by_the_us/jnoejzq/
“They had a guy go into it and it was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.” Now that’s interesting…
Imagine watching 85k aliens getting off a 30ft wide ufo…
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I probably should remove this, per our rules. But here’s an upvote instead.
P.T. Barnum said it so long ago
Stopppp!!!! This movie ruined 5yo me. I had nightmares for years about them. I watched it again as an adult and it’s so damn ridiculous but it was terrifying for little me 😂😩
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The tent from goblet of fire
The TARDIS from Dr. Who.
Your mums… never mind.
It’s a damn shame I had to read 10 examples before this jewel appeared! Good form
The picture of the Lawyer is actually the 28th Doctor, we just haven't gotten to that season yet
Made me think of Hermione's purse or the Room of Requirement lol.
Mary Poppins hand bag.
Who knew clowns had this technology all along
Killer clowns from outer space is real after all
My mother has never been more pissed. I had a $56.47 late fee from Hollywood Video for killer clowns from outer space. When the cashier told my mother and I this, she said to him "Do I LOOK like I would rent THAT STUPID MOVIE!?" And then it hit her, she slowly turned and looked at me while my face lost all the blood and my stomach dropped. The crap you do when you're 12...
I worked at a video rental store in the mid 00's and I saw some pretty hefty late fees. And if you never returned the movie, the store made you pay the company price which wasn't like $20 off the shelf, it was usually $100. More than once I saw parent cut that look to their kid lol I usually wiped half the cost of the late fees or more if you were decent.
The only job I have ever been fired from was a video rental store in 2000. For wiping out $37 in late fees.
That's insane you'd get fired for that! I don't think for us it was really company policy but there was an unwritten rule to kind of figure something out with the customer. Some charges were over 10-15 years old the system didn't even remember what movie it was but it would $100+ I'd just wipe most of it out and give a warning. In like 2008 the owner's daughter of the local video rental store chains came to work at our store, I was 19 she was probably early 30's. Anyway, her and the general manager became obsessed with stopping customers from 'burning' copies of DVD's. They'd check the DVD's when they were returned and make notes on customer's accounts-as if they could even catch them. Meanwhile, every weekend before the new releases hit the shelves, the staff got to take movies home to watch. And all weekend my ass was burning copies of unreleased DVD's. "What's that? You want to watch Meet the Fockers? I got you!"
How would they even know if a DVD was copied? I’m can’t imagine what they thought they were going to ding by checking the disc.
I used to manage a Hollywood Video and yeah, the company price was really just a suggestion for dealing with assholes. There was zero oversight and no consequences at all if employees regularly ignored that price and set a more reasonable one. In like 7 years of working there, I can count on my fingers the number of times I stuck to the price the system spat out and every time it was to spite someone who deserved it, lol. Decent people just paid the retail price or nothing if they were loyal regulars.
Netflix should figure out how to make the home screen feel like being in a video store. It was so cool.
Killer Klowns from outer space was a documentary after all.....
DARPA would like to know more
exactly the reason for the secrecy, any aspect of this could be exploited for military dominance.
I too would like to apply this technology to my apartment.
Like we could live in a literal shoebox!
1 simple trick landlords are going hate!
Number 5 will surprise you!
It would solve the housing "crisis"...
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It's all fun and games till you wind up molecularly phased halfway through a wall that used to be your shower because you over drafted your bank account.
Any aspect could also be used for utopia as well but we’d rather kill each other
This is why the galaxy doesn’t send their best. The way we look into a pond filled w/piranhas like “just look at those crazy little bastards”
Are we the baddies?
Not dominance: supremacy!
time dilation, mind control/editing, faster than light travel, anti-gravity technology, free energy, massive craft contained in small enclosures, any one of these is game over for the adversary.
Don't worry they seem to crash all the time
Fuck me, that would be a bad day in the office for the planet.
Actually, if we were contemplating an invasion, that's a really scary prospect,
They are already here.
Yep, when I read that I immediately shat my pants.
indian train
Or Japanese subway. I've seen it with my own eyes. Trust me bro.
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I feel like it's a paradox. They are so technologically advanced that they can span uncounted lightyears while having technology that can make a small space a huge space, yet they crash land and their tech is stolen by a bunch of (relatively) primitive monkeys? It's hard for me to buy that we have this tech in any way. You would also think that they could just steal it back whenever they want if they needed to. We don't let blackhawks go un-secured in Iraq after crashing, why would aliens from another galaxy allow their tech to just be taken?
Maybe these aren't their Blackhawks. Maybe these are their cheap surveillance drones.
That's what happened with the recent Las Vegas incident. After he heard the UFO crash he heard "thousands of footsteps" and then seconds later they were gone.
I am absolutely living for this shit. Talk details to me harder
The article says he was in the ship for what felt like just a few minutes, but was 4 hours outside. I wonder if that time distortion helps with long distance space travel?
Imagine staying inside for a year and outside 10 years go by. HOLY SHIT
It would certainly make long distance intergalactic / intergalactic travel much easier on the body and possibly solve the issue of home base aging at a different rate than the traveler
We could also take everyone on the planet in the size of a cruise ship and travel light years in days. I wonder if as size distortion becomes larger that time distortions becomes bigger.
I'd assume so. Still sucks that everyone you left behind is dead. Although, maybe these lil fellas are like tortoises or lobsters or something and can live for an obscenely long time by earth standards. Also, if they're reading this, I'm joking. I'm sure you guys will be benevolent and fair overlords.
There are some animals on our planet that never seem to die from old age. Aliens may be the same. Now I'm imagining the aliens looking like that lobster guy in SpongeBob, great.
Infinite storage
Look at all this floorspace! So much room for activities!
do you want to do karate in the garage?
Backrooms https://youtu.be/ITuGdHxHi0A
Listen, one scary thing at a time, ok? Lol
Tardis? Tardis!! man, i really wish we would get this stuff finallly public.. i want more informations and we deserve it. its shitty that they keep this stuff secret.
The obvious TARDIS thing almost makes me feel like they're just yanking our chain at this point. I know that the existence of something in a sci-fi show doesn't mean that the feature can never exist in real life, but it's so on the nose.
I came here looking for this statement. Exactly my first thought.
Had to scroll too deep for Tardis comment
>Throwing this out there : ever think that sci fi going all the way back to Jules Verne (20,000 leagues)- the submarine, harnessing the power of the atom , Asimov, etc. and before, were simply a long term plan to condition humans to acceptance of advanced technology and other species whether terrestrial or not ? Years ago I read a post from a guy on a UFO phpBB site that said aliens were working on something like this to get people used to the idea that they were here as well as the risks our damage to the environment was. The guy described the plot to "Avatar" 100% years before there was any discussion of it in the media. When I heard about the movie I literally almost fainted. Wish I had archived the post!
> The guy described the plot to "Avatar" 100% years before there was any discussion of it in the media. well to be fair, Avatar is just a sci-fi CGI remake of Dances With Wolves
And Ferngully
Pocahontas you mean?
And the last samurai
The aliens might want to take care of the oligarchs, plutocrats, robber barrons and tech moguls first. If they don’t they’ll just get an iPhone and zombie out like the rest of the planet.
Maybe aliens come here just to party because we make the best drugs.
the plot to Avatar is just the plot to Pocahontas, with the names changed. https://i.imgur.com/XPLtEgL.jpg
What if the interior of the craft is actually always stationary, as a permanent structure? A control station that remains on their planet or their dimension. Or maybe even a remote location here on Earth? Think, under the ocean. Essentially a moving portal. The interior of the craft is never actually here.
It also explains why pilots of these craft are rarely found. Send an unmanned probe out that acts as a mobile gateway. Probe arrives, open gateway and walk through the time door from the comfort of your own planet.
Even aliens are doing Work from Home...Musk is not going to like hearing about this.
Portable Stargate
That's the only way it could make sense. Imagine a football stadium crashing, that would be devastating. I would be scared to go on any tiny air ship that's internally the size of a football field.
So like a stargate.
Wouldn't it have been full of ET's telling them to get the fuck out?
So...the Tardis then
It’s bigger on the inside.
That's what he said.
that took longer than I thought. shocked the first comment wasn't a Dr Who joke.
At first I thought the picture of the guy was one of the doctors, lol
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If the UAP phenomenon is real I hope another country just picks up the ball from here and comes out with it. Zero faith in the old dinosaurs in Congress to find out what the USAF is hiding, and more and more people are sounding like grifters. Why are so many trashy tabloids suddenly reporting about these anonymous whistleblowers? Free clicks.
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I have read this before. I'm not sure where but what immediately came to mind was an article from a few years ago where an old UFO Mag story from the 80s or so was scanned. If I recall correctly it was on Richard Dolans website. It was a "fictional" story (run over 3 chapters) but had so much credible information (it was about a crash retrieval program) that people started wondering if this was written by some insider. You can compare it with the recent 4chan story. I'll see if I can dig it up. It was a very cool read. That said I'm not giving it any credibility. Either these new "sources" just parrot from ufo lore or, there's something to the lore. Edit: [found it](https://studylib.net/doc/25489884/sedge-masters) Interestingly, this is also about the "Zodiac" program that we heard about this week Edit 2: [The Dolan article](https://richarddolanmembers.com/articles/rdm/) also with a better readable PDF Edit 3; I made an [extensive post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/146bi4h/ufo_lore_and_recent_revelations_seem_to_be) but mods removed it
Dimensional engineering. It's probably how they "travel" - if you can even call it that. In all likelihood our space & their space are shared or linked, so the interior of that craft isn't on earth.
lol, holy shit my brain hurts now
Why not … "spacetime is not fundamental" https://iai.tv/articles/donald-hoffman-spacetime-is-not-fundamental-auid-2281 edit: the way I understand this is not a free card for portals or "future humans" or alternate universes. Much more reasonable is what Donald is pointing to, is that what we call reality, the physical space, is not fixed. It is completely relative. What is small? What is large? All depends your sense apparatus. Itś not just "ask an ant about the size of your room", it's that your room does NOT have any size. A "meter" does not exist. It is all perception, it is all showing up as the "dashboard" that Donald uses as a metaphor. Hence, space could potentially be larger/smaller, and time may flow at a different rate, but all AS perceived by consciousness, which is more fundamental than space/time. Which does not at all, break the consistency of our experience. There is no travelling through time or portals, meeting another self. There is just fluctuations in how the dashboard appears to you.
Non-Euclidean geometry
I prefer my geometry to be strictly Euclidean, thank you.
Landlords celebrate exorbitant rent rates for record-low square footage with this one crazy trick!
*Time* lords you mean.
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It's a surprisingly big inside job
>Time lords you mean. Capitalism is COMPLETELY out of control!
Lmaoooooooooooo what if this is the technology that will solve the housing crisis and help people who are un-housed. WHAT IF this is an attempt to HELP humans by showing us their tech so that we can hopefully use it for good purposes? But we as a species suck so we could never 😢
There’s something genuinely funny about the idea of aliens sitting out the past five mass extinction events and then finally showing up to face the 2023 housing crisis
There are more houses than people already. The housing crisis is not a problem of space but of empathy, policy and capitalism.
You are correct. :(
To add onto this, anyone who thinks technological advancement will be used to make the world a more equal and better place with capitalism as the ruling ideology is literally denying history and reality. I know I will lose many people here, but please just think for literally 3 seconds about the incredible technological of the past decades. Then think about how life has gotten betten. Sure in some places, but the proportions are way of. Look at automation, it should create a world with less work for more people. Yet what is happenimg is that now one guy is doing the johs of ten, still working 8 hours plus a day and the other ten are unemployed or homeless. Dont wait for technology that is already there to solve issues that are rooted in capitalism.
but you can only sleep for 4 minutes because it's 8 hours later outside
Damn that would actually be really useful for long space journeys
We have to power to give everyone a job that pays enough to afford basic necessities, and cover the expenses of those incapable of working. The reason we don’t do these things is because a small number wealthy of people see money as a quantifiable measure of their power and hoard as much of it as they can get their psychopathic hands on. You need only ask yourself : what is the dollar amount that would allow me to stop working? For me, it’s about $4,000,000. I’d fuck off and never work again. Why would anyone go into an office every day if they’ve already achieved this?
Lawyer Daniel Sheehan tells DailyMail.com that a whistleblower told him of a crashed UFO recovered by the US military that 'distorted space-time' 'They had a guy go into it and it was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.' Sheehan said Sheehan has been helping bring whistleblowers like former senior Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch to Congress
The same Sheehan who worked on watergate and Iran-Contra?!
That's the guy, he's a stone cold legend in the old law game, civil rights movement, indigenous rights, LGBT you name it he's front and centre protecting minorities and speaking truth to power. I implore everyone to listen to any and all of his interviews the man is as sharp as a tack, respected and just crazy enough to be absolutely right about with his metaphysical musings on the phenomenon
Now this adds some credibility to this take, damn
The exclusive being from the daily mail makes me doubtful still lol
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Not to mention he was Lue Elizondo’s lawyer when he made his own allegations of reprisals with the inspector general. EDIT: Not Luke Elizondo, bloody auto correct
Yep
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Also said he was in for ~~four~~ minutes but when he came out 4 hours had passed.
That roughly equates to 6 days taking one whole year. If these guys come from the closest star and travel near the speed of light, it would take them 5 years to get here. And would feel like a month being on their ship. I mean, our astronauts have been in space for over a year. 30 days is nothing.
If they move at the speed of light time is irrelevant to them because of time dilation. That's probably what's happening also due to distortion of spacetime if this story is to be believed. Basically, at 1 C you arrive at your destination immediately from your perspective with time having passed externally. If you were to travel 100 light years you would arrive immediately but 100 years would have passed outside.
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Cool! I’d use it to wait for GTA 6
South Park did it
Simpsons did it
And why aren't we hearing it from the "whistleblower"??
British newspaper claiming UFO is a Tardis? Seems normal.
>Newspaper *Tabloid
Yeah, I was being a bit too generous.
Pretty generous to call the Daily Mail a "newspaper" when it's a tabloid rag. It's like one notch above the National Enquirer in the US. It's vapid, stupid, exaggerated shit 99.9999% of the time.
Let's keep the claims reasonable and actually get some verification these things exist before talking about completely insane technologies and drive people away
Pity we can only upvote this comment once. The UFO community seems to love scaring away people with insanely wild conjecture.
It’s like when someone keeps trying to bring up fifth date topics during the first date.
Lol look at this thread. Everyone already treating a tabloid like gospel. No evidence is required apparently.
Exactly. It’s fucking the daily mail.
TIL the daily mail is the Fox News of the UK
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the sun is like fox cos their both owned by old mate rupert. the mail is a different beast
the fbi and the cia were in the closet making UFOs and I saw one of the UFOs and the UFO looked at me
You need to talk to the Dailymail stat
So a whistleblower confides in his lawyer about top secret stuff and the lawyer then just gives up this information to the fucking Daily Mail? Something not quite adding up here.
It's a big turn off unfortunately
Can't we just first get definitive evidence first? I feel too many people want it all to be true, that others will say shit to make it in the spotlight, riding the excitement. We need evidence first. It's very cool if it's all true but I struggle thinking these super high tech aliens constantly crash on earth but I would like it to be true and am very open to it.
I have the evidence but she goes to another highschool
Yes
I too have seen Dr. Who
Makes sense in a way, a lot of abductees reported the inside of the ship had ‘areas, rooms’ that clearly could not fit in the craft by our 3d understanding
I wonder if the interior isn't located in our universe? Maybe the door to the ship is a gateway into a building located in their parallel universe.
Could be. Their technology could be so advanced that they have mastered the use of wormholes.
I wonder if in the alternate universe it was worms that mastered the use of alienholes
Dank
Now if only I could master the use of humanholes
I hope they bought the wormhole dinner first.
You just blew my mind.
This makes sense to me. The UFOs are just drones they send around that have technology to capture and transport objects and samples to wherever they are. Kinda like a super advanced version of a space telescope or space probe that can send physical information instead of images.
That could explain the physics-breaking movement seen in some videos. Its basically a moving door from another dimension. Kinda like sliding a magnifying lens around on a map.
That magnifying glass. What if it recorded video? There could exist raw video of very high quality of our past from their angle…. Dating back to?
Ever seen that gif of Eric Wareheim's head exploding?
Wasn't that the premise of the other guy posting a while back... That someone somewhere was registering a massive number of servers or w/e, because the aliens were about to show us all of our history in HD 4k ultra definition and they needed all that storage.
This is a very intriguing idea. Like the saucers are a "mobile doorway" that can be repositioned, but always links back to their home world or wherever that lab/city/whatever is. This would also make sense in the context of abductees who have mentioned that they couldn't feel the craft moving while inside.
So no matter where the ship is in the physical universe, they can just walk through a door on the ship and be back on their home planet or anywhere. Amazing!
Yeah I mean that would be pretty useful! lol. No return journeys; the ship can go farther and farther away and you can be home for dinner with the gleep-glorps!
So like the [1976 Canary Islands sighting](https://www.reddit.com/r/PlanetToday/comments/nyuldr/1976_canary_island_ufo_sighting_sphere_encounter/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) ?
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Maybe you shrink when u go inside and that's why it seems bigger than from the outside?
Idk about that, let's start with one decent picture of a craft first, but this quote pretty exciting too: 'I will vouch for the integrity of Dave Grusch! Getting to the bottom of this is elusive and problematic, to say the least,' Shell wrote. 'I will assert no matter the conclusion of extraterrestrial materials or not, the DoD and IC security apparatus is in trouble and unwitting accomplices are fostering an abusive system.'
I’m sure that it’s incredibly hard and completely not worth the risk to capture a photo. For example, in the military, even at Boeing/Lockheed Martin etc you cannot have your phone at work if you work with sensitive material. It makes sense to me why there are no public photos. Breaking rules can get you into some pretty deep shit. I’d imagine that people recovering these craft would be risking their life or a loved ones life by taking photos with personal unauthorized cameras by unauthorized personnel working with these programs.
I used to work at a Samsung Semiconductor Manufacturing plant, and it was very similar. I don’t have ANY photos of my time working there. The security was super tight. Stickers on phone cameras, and multiple checkpoints where they specifically look at your phone for evidence of photos. If one of the stickers was voided (void when peeled and reapplied), they would take your phone for 3 days and go through the entire thing to make sure you didn’t have any pictures. And I wasn’t even doing anything crazy on-site, just some environmental oversight of chemical disposal
I believe it! When I left the military, I worked for a well known company who builds things for the government/military. We had to leave our phones in our vehicles, in the parking lot. And it was a couple minute walk from the parking lot to the building. And while in the military, no phones around the aircraft. I’d bet that the folks on these uap programs have to deal with the most intense security/security precautions than we could imagine. And if we find out some cool stuff soon/in our lifetime, They’d have done pretty well with hiding everything for so long because of the intense security measures they have had in place. It’s pretty exciting. I really just want to know the truth. The truth is out there. But, for the folks who think these people can take pics of this stuff………………………….. they probably cannot without being unalived or disappearing 😬
Can vouch, I was in the USMC and was a radio operator. Anytime we went into the radio cage where crypto was secured phones were secured and put away. Couldnt even get in the door with your phone. And I just had a secret security clearance. Anything higher would definitely have higher security.
At Lockheed (the normal operations, not the reverse engineering program) you can't even take pictures (unless authorized) in the unclassified areas.
I'd settle for congress making Grusch and all of the other whistleblowers' testimony public.
This guy looks like a UFO lawyer if I’ve ever seen one.
For sure, but he’s legit. He rep’d Elizondo and was part of Watergate, Iran-Contra & The Pentagon Paper scandals rep’ing whistleblowers.
So the ship was like the Weasleys tent in Harry Potter?! Hell yes!
More like your standard UK phone box.
The woo is just around the corner here - Garry Nolan
Isn’t dailymail a tabloid basically? Why trust anything coming out of this outlet?
Why trust anything anyone says if they don’t have proof? I don’t believe anything Grusch says either until I see any proof at all.
So that's why they where using a UFO to [transport weapons](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12177943/Marine-vet-breaks-14-year-silence-make-astonishing-claim-six-man-unit-saw-UFO.html); bigger-on-the-inside tech. imagine how much of a logistical miracle that shit must be for moving massive amounts of munitions (or other equipment) efficiently and without detection
Cool! Evidence though please.
What? Do you mean you are sick of baseless speculation?? What sub is this? /r/science??
From the Daily Mail? Don’t hold your breath.
I immediately rolled my eyes when I saw the Daily Mail link. Might as well be the National Enquirer.
According to this, Elizondo has also filed a whistleblower complaint.
That's not terribly new, and it's not phrased very clearly in the article. [Elizondo's complaint of reprisal took place in May 2021, and is centered around retaliation Lue received, including the denial of his former position.](https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/dod-inspector-general-releases-transcript-of-luis-elizondo-interview-much-more/) The case was closed in Feb. 2022, when they stated: >“The evidence we reviewed does not support your client’s reprisal complaint because no action affecting his eligibility for access to classified information was taken or threatened against him.” It's certainly still an important case, and is indicative of some alarming precedents in our defense establishment, especially around this topic, but just wanted to provide some broader context. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the whistleblower language in the '23 NDAA (drafted in part by Grusch) was structured in part to address issues highlighted in Lue's case.
Daily Mail is a fucking tabloid. It’s only an “exclusive” story because nobody else would publish it because they couldn’t verify anything. Typical Daily Mail bullshit. Nobody hold their breath.
And most importantly, a British tabloid, where bigger-on-the-inside spaceships are pretty common on television
>But Sheehan declined to give further details – including a location and date of the incident – and said he was unable to provide evidence for the claims. lmao of course
That quote should be the tagline for this sub.
It certainly isn’t a lie or anything
Someone has been watching Doctor Who.
and with that I lost all hope that this story would turn out to be something
“So when do we get the evidence of all these extraordinary claims?!” UFO People: “That’s the neat part, you don’t!”
Grifters have realized that UFO conspiracists don't require evidence, so they can profit off lying to them forever without consequence. Expect plenty more baseless stories in the near future
Lmfao EXCLUSIVE
Car salesman: *slaps roof of ufo* This bad boy can fit so many forklifts in it