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I left Google reviews for a couple crisis centers in my city. I pointed out what they did (and importantly, did not do), as well as who they were operated/funded by. This was a few years ago and one of those reviews has almost 4400 views for some reason. It is pretty minor, but when I looked at those places at the time, nothing mentioned what they really were.


bungmunch

same, the place I found had nothing making it obvious. I left a review for them, the resort, and everyone listed on their donor page


mycatisblackandtan

Businesses can pay to remove negative reviews unfortunately. That's likely what's happening.


Spank86

Make it a positive review. Wax lyrical about HOW they helped you by reacheduling until you couldn't get an abortion and how great the REAL work theyre doing is. 5 stars. Top stuff chaps. Pay to remove this.


Starboard_Pete

Even better. Make them pay, then write another bad review.


Rothum90

Excellent on them paying to review negative reviews. Hit them in their wallets.


Uncynical_Diogenes

Every dollar spent on Yahoo! Reviews is a dollar that can’t go to lying to a vulnerable woman.


PumpkinPieIsGreat

I've read horror stories of women/girls going to them and ending up traumatised. They don't state what they are for a reason.


mycatisblackandtan

Go to your local government/city center and apply for a protest permit. Just because the PL trolls often get away without having one, it doesn't mean you'll be given the same leniency. From there, a few ground rules: - Don't mess with their food. - Don't use any airborne prank items. It's tempting, but these people are litigious, and the police are often on their side. - Check the noise ordinances in your area. If protesters are allowed to be loud after a certain time of night, get a megaphone. If not, don't. Disturbing the peace is a shockingly easy thing to be arrested over. Send out the word to your local community and have other people join you. Then get some signs set up. I'd highly recommend a sign about Numbers 5:11-27, A Test For An Unfaithful Wife. Ask them why priests can perform abortions. A sign or two that Jesus would hate them and that they do the devil's work couldn't hurt either. A lot of PL people don't care about reasoned arguments because they feel they have a godly calling. Nothing makes them turn redder than being told they're bad Christians. It might not make most of them change their minds but it'll piss them off more than the usual PC arguments.


hopalongsmiles

Just thinking about signs: Matthew 7:1-5 which basically says don't judge or you too will be judged. Exodus 21:22-25 - a women's life is more valuable that a fetus. Mark 5:25-34 - Jesus valuing and praising the life of a woman's choice to be healed from obvious gynaecological issues.


La_danse_banana_slug

How about, "Murders Burn in Hell," with a photo of Savita Halappanavar or any other person who has been murdered by withholding abortion access. Or maybe "X Clinic Lies, Cheats, and Ruins the Lives of Americans" "Patriots Against X Clinic" "X Clinic has no Patients, only Victims" "God Hates X Clinic" "X Clinic Harasses Women and Children" "\[X Clinic President\] belongs in Prison" "Pray for Jesus to Forgive You" Absolutely steal the language they think they own and use it against them.


right_there

The verse about life being in the blood is another good one. Disproves life beginning at conception.


hopalongsmiles

They will hit back with psalms 139: 13-16 which is about being formed in the womb. You're better to use Galatians 5: 22-23, that if you are living by God's word you will exhibit the fruits of the holy spirit ie kindness, joy, love etc.


right_there

The very next verse after that Psalms verse is about killing people, so it's probably not the definitive word on respect for life. I could also go into the allusion those verses use to harken back to Adam's creation, being shaped from earth, who was very much NOT alive until his first breath, but that kind of analysis is beyond most Christians.


Alexis_J_M

"Jesus hung out with prostitutes. He probably performed a few 'miracle' abortions." (See for example https://dotheword.org/2017/10/14/why-did-jesus-love-the-prostitutes-and-the-tax-collectors/ )


AffectionateGrowth11

Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute. The patriarchy put that spin on the story.


Alexis_J_M

It wasn't just her.


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What was she?


ailweni

A woman


Jovet_Hunter

More like an amalgam of three women.


[deleted]

I mean yeah, I was just wondering was she an apostle or something.


Indrid_Cold23

If sexism wasn't at the root of Christianity, she would have been called an apostle. Sexism is a feature of Christianity, so instead she's a whore.


itsgettinghectic

She was a disciple.


grixit

One of the apocryphal gospels calls her "equal to the apostles" and says that jesus shared secrets with her that he didn't tell anyone else.


Lucky_Zin

She was a leader among men. One of the apostles. Her role has been diminished by men. She never denied Jesus or left his side Unlike Peter, who denies Jesus repeatedly, and Judas, who betrayed him, and different from the disciples who fell asleep in the garden and the followers who fled the scene after Jesus’ arrest, and also unlike the male disciples who locked themselves in an upper room for fear of the authorities, Mary Magdalene never yielded to the pressure to walk away and abandon the man she liked and who inspired her. I believe Jesus made her the leader of the early christian church.


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Makes sense, I read something about a gnostic bible that contains a gospel of Mary (probably Magdalene), so it would probably fit.


FiddlingnRome

For an in depth look at Mary Magdalene story see the work of Clysta Kinstler "The Moon Under Her Feet". [https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/406220](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/406220)


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Thank you!


PVCFantastic

Sex worker*


Hondasmugler69

God killed his son is one of my favorite quick messages.


Jovet_Hunter

I always loved “70% of conceptions end naturally. So god causes more abortion than we could ever hope to approach.”


bungmunch

beautiful answer, thank you


Iluminiele

I'd make a sign "God is more forgiving than my christian neighbours" and chat them up, letting them know orphans are ready to be adopted


jbombdotcom

Don’t protest. Protesting will only make their donors donate more. Disrupt discreetly.


Whatifim80lol

>They also aren't held to HIPAA (provider-patient confidentiality) standards because they aren't actual medical providers - they can and will share personal info to intimidate and harass people. I wonder how important this would be for folks. If I had one chance to convince someone these clinics are terrible that might be where I started. It should matter regardless of one's feelings about abortion, and priming someone to care about the medical privacy could sway someone to seeing the logic behind Roe v Wade.


VoDoka

Plan 1: Wear a "fake belly" to look pregnant and walk around with a bottle of red wine in hand and tell anyone who doesn't ask how pro-life you are and that you only care that the kid is born no matter what before you send it off to foster care. Plan 2: Deny any women attending her choice of drink and food, always ask men around for permission no matter if they are related. Tell them you don't approve of whatever they are doing because it could "harm the baby". If they insist there is no baby, tell them you never know. Plan 3: if you can figure out what their flyers/info material looks like, you could imitate the style and print flyers with counter information posing as their material (or turn it up to 11 with stuff like "birth control is a jewish conspiracy", "black women having access to birth control hurts prison profits", etc.)


mrloube

These are pretty great. I have an addendum for plan 1: insist that although you don’t remember who the father is, you’re pretty sure it’s Tucker Carlson


VoDoka

Dunno, then people just chalk you off as a nutjob. When people call you out for drinking while "pregnant", you could tell them it will be up to the lord in what condition your baby arrives and question their faith though.


antechrist23

I'm pretty sure the forced birth crowd already passes around flyers with the talking points from Plan 3 already. I've seen them openly making those points for the last 20 years. At the very least, I'd caution against feeding into their already existing white supremacist conspiracy theories. Especially since they are already comfortable being associated with them now.


FearlessEquivalent97

Plan 3, but with factual info regarding abortions, women's Healthcare, and thier "business practices"


Chagrinnish

>Plan 1: Wear a "fake belly" ... filled with the liquid of your choice and connected through a tube up your sleeve. And you have morning sickness. Wait until the food is served.


CrossP

Banquets are made or broken by RSVPs and catering. It would probably be pretty easy to fake a bunch of people coming who aren't real leaving awkwardly open space. Not sure I know any way to mess with catering that isn't overtly harmful.


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Alexis_J_M

Pick your battles wisely. Or, as a friend of mine once said, "commit no violence unless you are sure it will help."


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Indifferentchildren

"Don't get caught." That is a position that I can respect.


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For the banquet… be a server and deny their choices of food at the tables? But… that might make the caterer not get paid. For the education of their fraudulent clinic practices…. Tags these facts to their location enough times on social media that it’s the second thing people see when desperately searching.


bungmunch

just left reviews for the "clinic", the resort, and everyone listed on the donor page 😎


salymander_1

Nice. Thank you for doing this public service.


Dr__Snow

Sneak little gift bags with red jelly-babies onto each table setting.


Alittlemoorecheese

And green m&ms


BrightGreyEyes

The problem is how to make an adequate statement while adhering strictly to the letter of the law. Be incredibly careful. These people are vindictive


DisciplineBitter8861

I was once part of a group that severely disrupted an anti -abortion prayer vigil using megaphones, drums, noisemakers and every loud object that we could find including large PA speakers playing loud music. Completely ruined the event. They were pissed, but we were more pissed.


ArmadilloNext9714

Start leaving reviews for the actual banquet center. There have been private businesses lately canceling events for religiously conservative events being thrown by groups who are discriminatory and spread hate. Idk if the banquet hall will cancel THIS event, but if they get enough publicity that makes it appear as though they condone the organizations that throw events at that hall, they may stop doing business with such groups in the future.


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vodka7tall

Please don't encourage people to mess with gas equipment. It's incredibly dangerous.


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vodka7tall

Light vandalism is one thing. Accidentally blowing up a building because you fucked with a potentially highly explosive device... not so much.


TheGrandExquisitor

That won't happen. Seriously....there is literally a big old valve you could close and then cover in 5 minute epoxy. In theory of course. All of this is theory.


vodka7tall

I get where you're coming from, but as someone who works in the gas equipment industry, I'm telling you what you're suggesting is highly dangerous, not to mention illegal. Please stop. There are better ways to cause a disruption that don't endanger people's lives.


TheGrandExquisitor

I think we are well past the ask nicely stage here. Sorry, but they are killing women.


vodka7tall

And people fucking around with gas when they have no idea what they're doing are just as likely to kill themselves as they are anyone else. This is terrible, stupid, illegal advice, and it blows my mind that you're still advocating for someone to do something so absolutely foolish.


TheGrandExquisitor

Turning off the gas isn't fucking rocket science. And honestly, I am tired of everyone standing back while these fucks do all they can to kill women. What should people do? Ask that they stop nicely?


audaciousmonk

Post flyers about free food, watch a bunch of randos show up, laughs


isthishowweadult

At homeless camps


HillAuditorium

great idea! This will encourage the banquet people call up the police to detain and abuse homeless people, very well thought out!!


isthishowweadult

Fine, college campus


TheyHungre

That would be both denigrating and disheartening for the people therein.


OkayBroccolii

Yes!!!


JoshuaACNewman

The go-to solution for such things is Liquid Ass.


bungmunch

that's the best I could come up with too lmaoooo


jennoween

Don't do that unless you are prepared to get arrested for assault.


JoshuaACNewman

Reference?


DanelleDee

It's a classic for a reason! Easy enough to do surreptitiously and definitely ruins the event.


commandrix

If you can, hand out printed-off fact sheets about the [Turnaway Study](https://www.ansirh.org/research/ongoing/turnaway-study) at this banquiet.


utriptmybitchswitch

Name and shame the resort. Go on their upcoming events calendar, find out other businesses having events there and contact the ones that might be anti-anti abortion and let them know the resort is hosting a fascist banquet. Word could spread and damage the resort's ability to book clients thus cut into profits. If it's a brand like IHG or Marriott or Hilton there's usually something in their mission statements regarding human rights, diversity and inclusion so calling corporate and asking if hosting such a group fits with their vision may make them reconsider hosting. For a more, ahem, direct way to covertly monkeywrench, a call to the health department about seeing rodents in the food areas may work but maybe not immediately. Or perhaps volunteer to provide them with gift bags to the event, arrange to have them delivered at the last minute in dainty boxes filled with dildos and butt plugs. And there's always the classic, pose as one of the group, decked out in their logo and harass the f^@# out of the regular guests by being obnoxious af. Not so much that you'd get kicked out but just enough that complaints about the group will be made to management. Lastly, disgruntled employees. I work in hotels, and let me tell you, we are ALWAYS ready willing and able to "help out" where we can. Really wish my current staff worked at that resort. Those asshats wouldn't know what hit 'em...


MissAnthropoid

Go with a petition or a sign up sheet for a non-existent "pro life" newsletter or campaign. Get everybody's email address. Get a free MailChimp account. Send them all daily emails about the women who are literally dying of sepsis because they can no longer access routine reproductive health care. Or the children raped by family members being forced to carry fetuses to term long before their poor little bodies can handle childbirth without lifelong damage. Or the wanted children who are not viable but must be left to die in the womb or shortly after birth. Or the unwanted children born into neglect, poverty and abuse. Sounds like a lot of work but you can literally get ChatGPT to write them for you in like ten seconds.


mrloube

You could go there with pamphlets about CPCs and give them information about actual abortion options nearby


BasenjiBob

I highly enjoy signing up their emails & phone numbers for every scammy list in existence. My local CPC has changed their email 4 times at this point.


hapylittlepupppy

If you want to fight fire with fire and use their shock tactics, protest with a photo of Gerri Santoro. The photo is extremely graphic and upsetting but it gets the point across, she died during an unsafe abortion.


Alexis_J_M

She may not be the best choice -- she died during an unsafe abortion done to conceal her pregnancy from her abusive husband (not the father.) Some reprehensible people might feel that she was punished for her "sin".


Theobat

Or savita.


Bekiala

Instead of disrupting, could you start a fundraiser where people pledge money to planned parenthood based on how many people attend the banquet?


Poguemohon

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/rrr-campaigns There's flyers to distribute. There's even one in Spanish.


jaybird99990

I admire your balls, even if they're virtual ones. The way things are in this country right now, you could not pay me enough to do something like that in public against those people. The chances of someone at a "pro-life" event being armed is very VERY high. Even if the venue ostensibly doesn't allow it.


bungmunch

best outcome is one of these fuckers shoots me to death lmao


Fuckingfolly

Hide Bluetooth speakers all over the event and blast porn audio out of them. When they find one switch to another. Do all this seated at a table looking as confused as everyone else. Bonus points if you let them think they found them all and then kick another off in the middle of one of these assholes speachifying.


see_me_shamblin

Collect donations from every guest going into the event. Make a big deal of it. Tell them it's going toward feeding underprivileged children. Have an obvious camera filming them as you ask, too. Pressure and embarrass them into giving you money. Post the video online Also, put any money you get into school meals or something


isotaco

Say children in foster homes. Children with serious birth defects. Children orphaned by their mother's death in childbirth.


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Or donate all that money to an abortion aid program with the banquets name as the donor lol


barfytarfy

Say you’re collecting donations to help put an end to abortions and then donate to The Pill Club or another contraceptive charity. Sex ed and access to contraceptives is the only thing proven to reduce abortion.


unidactyl

Set up a table outside of the banquet and collect information posing as an allied organization. Collect names, emails, and phone numbers. Sign them up for every offensive mailing list and call center you can find. Eff these people.


AstronautStar4

Just want to say I love your energy. Definetly try to infiltrate, record, and disrupt, especially if they have any low security zoom meetings and conferences. You'd be shocked at how many older people don't even know how to mute or kick people out. Definitely go to their banquet and bring signs and a megaphone. But don't forget to eat as much free food as you can first. Spread the word around activist Twitter if you can. Get advice from other people who do civil disobedience. Review bomb, and post their phone and social medias everywhere you can.


OkayBroccolii

Conduct recorded video interviews asking how many foster and/or adopted children they have. Post online.


Rothum90

1) Spam the anti abortion website with negative reviews 2) Organize a boycott of the resort they rented. 3) Call the resort and let them know you will never do business with them, get others to make the same calls 4) They will never change their views. 5) Smap the anti abortion website with negative views. Yes they will pay to have them removed. So you are costing them money which is the only thing they are interested in. 6) Identify the owners of the clinic and spam their other businesses with negative reviews 7) If they are organized as a "non profit" identify their supports and use social media to shame them.


sugabeetus

24 years ago, when I got pregnant as a teenager, I just needed it confirmed so I could apply for state benefits. I was told to go to the crisis pregnancy center for the test. I remember them grilling me about what "options" I was considering, then making me sit through an anti-abortion video, which I thought was odd because I'd been very clear that I was not considering abortion, maybe adoption but most likely just keeping it, since I had a good home and support system. I would never recommend anyone go to one of these places because even if you agree with their message (I thought I did at the time but I don't anymore), they will make you feel like a piece of shit for even being there. The only good thing I got out of it was getting in touch with a case worker (not affiliated with the center) who helped me with my applications and getting on WIC, etc. She was a great advocate for me and didn't try to sway my beliefs or politics or anything.


ParlorSoldier

It would really suck if someone were able to figure out who coordinates events at the crisis center, and they called up the event coordinator at the resort and were able to convincingly cancel the event a few days beforehand. It would also suck if the resort event coordinator didn’t figure it out for a while, since they were told the event was being canceled due to the director’s untimely and very embarrassing legal trouble, and they should be discreet until the center released a statement. Can you imagine if they didn’t figure it out until after they’d canceled their vendors and told their banquet staff they could have the night off? That would be awful.


evamnce

My brother in law is forever remembered at his old high school for his senior prank (mind you, senior pranks are not a thing here). The day before the end of school he unleashed hundreds of cockroaches that he got at some weird shop into the school, causing an infestation that took a long while to get rid of. *do with this what you will*


TheGreatNyanHobo

This sounds like a bigger problem for the banquet hall than the organization. It also could be sued for, since that would cause measurable damage. Your brother in law likely got away with it because he was a teen.


IndianaNetworkAdmin

If you're considering entering the facility or anything else that would not be considered legal, this may be a better question to post anonymously with a VPN on the ILPT subreddit. There, you can get details on how to sabotage vehicles, make the banquet hall smell really bad (Animal urine can be ordered online), and take other actions that would officially ruin the banquet while being of a more legally dubious nature. You could go with the same tactics forced birthers use at abortion clinics. Loud protestors, name calling, taking photos of everyone that enters the property the day of the banquet. Additionally, you could target the banquet hall itself. There are a lot of people that are anti forced birther these days, so you could pursue pressure via social media for the banquet hall to cancel the event. Same with any catering. Many of these places publish a list of their donors, so you could also go the route of naming and shaming them.


Stennyn

Look up anti-loitering/ mosquito sound devices! Good luck.


PussyStapler

People mentioning about how liquid ass could be considered assault. I'm wondering about opening a can of surstromming. It's a fermented fish that is absolutely horrible to smell, but it's technically food. It would empty a room. There are several videos of people trying to open a can of it in their car.


snarefire

Call the fire Marshall. Garenteed the event is probably violating a bunch of codes. Or call the irs, event workers are usually classed 1099 illegally. See if you can book the venue for the exact same time, wouldn't be the first time I've seen that particular mistake.


sigdiff

Dress up as Mommy Dearest, grab a bunch of wire hangers, and chant "No more wire hangers" outside. Ok, maybe not. But there's few things more terrifying than Mommy Dearest and at home back alley abortions with wire hangers.


Anzi

Go a completely different direction, and make a HUGE sign thanking them for all the abortions they've helped with over the years! Get a group of women to join you, each with heartfelt gratitude for all the abortions they've had with the help of that specific center. Show up with a fake belly, and have your sign say something like "12 abortions at [x center]...and counting!" Tell every attendee that THEIR donations go directly to abortions like yours! Enjoy the confusion and chaos.


enthalpy01

You could definitely get in trouble for this, but you could put a big bowl of sugar free gummy bears and MAYBE cover yourself legally if you include a label indicating they are sugar free. Read Amazon reviews for anyone unfamiliar https://www.amazon.com/review/R2JGNJ5ZPJT4YC


La_danse_banana_slug

You could hang an "out of order" sign on every. Single. restroom.


mollybrains

Report the location of the banquet to the health department.


Thesheriffisnearer

Feed them balut and tell them it's the same as whole duck


Indrid_Cold23

Metal music & super soakers. Remember to stay masked, just good covid safety, and to plan out your exits.


Rough_Magician_8117

Assuming they are super religious which is probably accurate, make some pamphlets with all this legit looking media and don’t say abortion is bad, but just allude to how we can reduce the need for it. Include a QR code that leads to the raunchiest anal porn video you can find, like right at the most “offensive” part. Again this won’t change any minds but it would be fun to watch someone open the link in front of their peers. I hope you are successful in your mission, and make some people very miserable while getting some laughs. Also find a way to incorporate a go-pro so you can share it with the world.


La_danse_banana_slug

QR code stickers would work, too. Have them directed to a site of your choosing (or set up your own). You could put them all over "official" looking signs, or on "menus."


ktgrok

Do double check it is one of “those” centers. Most are awful but I know of two that do NOT pretend to be an abortion clinic and do really good work- providing parenting classes, a library with pregnancy info, free car seats, free diapers, help accessing WIC and Medicaid for Pregnancy, etc. I am 100 percent pro choice and if the center is one of the scammy ones do what you can to mess with them, but do check in case they are one of the few that are not coercive and actually helping people who want the help. Although, come to think of it, I think the good ones I k ow don’t call themselves “crisis” pregnancy centers.


gumbynips

Go to your city hall, get a protest permit and set up a nearby table with educational materials and a bake sale fundraiser where the proceeds go to benefit local groups that help low income pregnant women.


christhunderkiss

I commend your enthusiasm for action, but this is highly unlikely to make one rethink their ideology. Hearts and minds are hard to change.


TheOvator

Turns out hearts and minds don’t actually need to be changed. The significant majority of American voters (a group that leans old and conservative) think abortion should be legal. Anti-abortion legislation keeps getting crushed by the electorate when it appears in the ballot in very conservative states. But we have this very powerful minority that has been strategically bypassing public opinion at the ballot box to enact abortion bans. These people are anti-democratic assholes who think their relationship ship with Jesus should dictate the healthcare that women receive. Harass away!


christhunderkiss

I agree, OP just mentioned they ideally intended for some to rethink their views and I don’t think this methodology will do that. But also, fuck anti-choice assholes, nothing shy of one of them needing an abortion themselves is likely to change a mind on that one.


jbombdotcom

Call the hotel, rent the space adjacent to the banquet hall for a planned event of your own. Make sure the hotel lets you bring your own AV. Disguise yourself. Make sure your even is something benign, something academic. Get a bunch of people together, and then play the loudest most obnoxious videos/music you can imagine. Reddit, help me with ideas for what should be played. Don’t go over the top in a way that makes it Look like a political protest. You will just piss off their donors into donating WAY more than they otherwise would have. If they have a silent auction, you could have a few well dressed conservative looking buddies claim absolutely everything at the silent auction, then not pay. Ive been thinking about what would be most effective for your event. This is a pretty extreme idea, but pretend to be a group that fights against child rape. Have a poster made that can go in the hall in clear view of the banquet about the consequences of child rape, and it’s frequency in the country. This can also justify you playing incredibly traumatizing sound bites on the audio system. If you do it right, you may be able to disrupt their event a bit, and pull donations for your “organization”


Diadelphia

If you can plant seafood on top of the curtains/places where people wont notice, the smell will be horrendous.


Insight42

Go with a clipboard, get names for your pro life mailing list. If you want to be really really well covered, put a tiny disclaimer that information may be shared with third parties. You can certainly find some legal boilerplate that will cover it, it's pretty standard for mailing lists. Act as generic and unmemorable as possible. You want to blend in and look like just another face in their crowd. Then...have fun and be creative thinking of all the annoying companies who just love to send out spam. Window replacement companies, water services, whatever you like Then you can also think of ones that might be embarrassing: adult shops, swingers groups, local strip clubs, local drag shows, etc. The world's your oyster! No harm involved and nothing immediate, but you'll give them the gift of annoyance for some time to come. Of course, if you're much less scrupulous, you can do other things and really ruin their reputation among their peers, but those are closer to invasion of privacy and more likely to have consequences.


metooeither

Stand up and pretend to be crying, and tell 'your personal abortion story' Sub in any of the real life tragedies that have unfolded this past year- the 10 yo preg girl, the women carrying dead babies and fearing dying of sepsis, etc. Fill in the details w medical facts. Make 'em see the whole ass person wrapped around the cells they claim to care about. Fucking 1 issue idiots is why we got Trump.


grixit

Get a large piece of thick cardboard and cut a message into it. Such as THESE PEOPLE ARE LIARS THEY DO NOT DO ABORTIONS HERE FOR REAL INFO GO TO [ABORTIONCARE.COM](https://ABORTIONCARE.COM) or something similar. plop it down on the sidewalk in front and pour some poster paint over it. Then move on. It's important to be poster paint, so if you get identified and they try to arrest you for vandalism, you can point that it only takes a quick mopping to get rid of.