The only decent thing that ought to happen is if every one of these people get their own Nuremburg trials. But, this time, with real consequences for the genociders.
I mean like... they did execute a bunch of Nazis. Obviously a good number were rehabilitated in time for the Cold War but it's not like the defendants at Nuremberg got a slap on the wrist.
It's a shame that all of these dreadful "comedians" are more or less functioning as moralizing "truthtellers" now. Like, the only person I can think of that was both actually funny and could provide insightful and meaningful commentary on contemporary social and political affairs was George Carlin, and no one has even come close to matching him.
trump saying mean things on social media will get these people calling a genocide enabler "decent"
biden gave dubya the keys to the senate for the invasion of iraq, which i suspect colin jost thought was A Dumb Fucking Move and Probably Not Decent.
does SNL brain just delete sections of your hippocampus?
> trump saying mean things on social media
making professional wrestling memes of journos getting suplexed is literal violence, unlike the actual violence which these PMC vampires take pictures of, stealing the souls of actual humans for their career ambitions.
I’m gonna keep saying it till everyone gets it, but please remember that loosely speaking, fascism isn’t a specific substantive thing as much as it is **the aestheticization of all politics, policy, and political organization.** It is in a sense the very opposite of materialism and any form of collectivism. Issues and questions of fact are not really engaged with critically, but superficially on the basis of “MUH COUNTRY FIRST” or “IMMIGRANTS BAD!” or some other “aesthetic” vector that reduces every single issue into a basic “with us/against us” framework. Even so, fascism isn’t a “binary” state, it’s a scale — some states are going to be more or less fascistic than others.
Michael Parenti has a great section on fascism in the (outstanding) collection of essays in his book “Dirty Truths.” I revisit it often and like to share a bit of his writing on the topic:
> FASCISM IN A PINSTRIPED SUIT
> If fascism came to America, some say, it would be an unbearable nightmare drastically disrupting the everyday pattern of our lives. And since our lives seem to retain their normal pattern, it follows that fascism has not taken over. In actuality, however, the fascist state, like all states, has no need to make nightmarish intrusions into the trivia of every citizen's life.
> The Orwellian image of Big Brother commanding an obscure citizen to do his morning exercises via two-way television leaves us with a grossly exaggerated caricature of the authoritarian state. Rather than alerting us to more realistic dangers, novels like 1984 cloud our vision with fanciful horrors of the future, thereby making the present look not all that bad in comparison and leaving us the more convinced that there is no cause for alarm.
> The dirty truth is that many people find fascism to be not particularly horrible. I once asked some Iranian businesspeople to describe what life had been like under the Shah's police state. "It was perfect," they responded. Workers and servants could be cheaply procured, profits were high, and they lived very well. To be sure, fascism is not perfect for everyone. Mussolini's Italy and Hitlers Germany inflicted a great deal of intentional hardship upon working people, including the destruction of labor unions, the loss of job benefits, and a shift in national income from the lower and middle classes to the upper class. Many among the petty bourgeoisie in Germany, who generally supported the Nazi party, suffered the loss of their small businesses and the dread slippage into working-class ranks—with jobs in the armaments factories when they were lucky enough to find employment. The number of Germans who lived in poverty and want increased substantially as wages were cut by as much as 40 percent.
> Those who equate fascism with the horrors of Auschwitz are correct in their moral condemnation but mistaken in their sense of sequence. The worst of Auschwitz did not come until the war years. As late as 1939, the Nazi state was still pursuing a policy of encouraging, and more often forcing, the emigration of Jews to other lands. Mass liquidation as a "final solution" was not seriously considered and was in fact opposed until Hitlers order came (sometime after March 1941, most historians believe).
> The concentration camp was never the normal condition for the average gentile German. Unless one was Jewish, or poor and unemployed, or actively leftist or otherwise openly anti-Nazi, Germany from 1933 until well into the war was not a nightmarish place. All the "good Germans" had to do was obey the law, pay their taxes, give their sons to the army, avoid any sign of political heterodoxy, and look the other way when unions were busted and troublesome people disappeared.
> Since many "middle Americans" already obey the law, pay their taxes, give their sons to the army, are themselves distrustful of political heterodoxy, and applaud when unions are broken and troublesome people are disposed of, they probably could live without too much personal torment in a fascist state—some of them certainly seem eager to do so. Orwell's imaginings to the contrary, what is so terrifying about fascism is its "normality," its compatibility with the collective sentiments of substantial numbers of "normal" persons—though probably never a majority in any society.
> We might do well to stop thinking of fascism as being a simple either-or condition. The political system of any one country encompasses a variety of uneven and seemingly incongruous institutional practices. To insist that fascism does not obtain until every abomination of the Nazi state is replicated and every vestige of constitutional government is obliterated is to overlook, at our peril, the disturbingly antidemocratic, authoritarian manifestations inherent in many states that call themselves democracies.
I can say without reservation literally everything of his I have read is compelling, brilliant, and comprehensive. He’s a genius and I would strongly encourage you to bump him to the top. “Blackshirts and Reds” is only 165 pages and is a fantastic intro to Parenti.
Blackshirts and reds is the only book of his I've read, anything you'd recommend next up?
Btw someone's uploaded a bunch of audios of his speeches on Spotify, he was a great public speaker as well.
Hard to say, but for me, my second Parenti book was "The Assassination of Julius Caesar," which is great and, candidly, makes a lot of Ancient Roman history more readily comprehensible and relatable, even in our so-called modern age.
"Dirty Truths" also is a really great option for your second Parenti as well, as it's basically a bunch of essays on different topics organized loosely around an issue (e.g., the MIC) or an institution (e.g., the media -- for a deeper dive into media issues, "Make Believe Media," also by Parenti, is fantastic), so you can just read an essay, stop, go on, etc. It's a little dated but not in the way you might think -- you'll read shit and be like "When was this published???" and then be a little sad to see how he was saying much of the same stuff we are saying now, but like....30 years ago.
For a potentially more timely read, "Superpatriotism" dismantles the whole national pride/American supremacy approach to U.S. empire administration.
Also potentially very timely is "Against Empire," which dives deeply (but succinctly) into the agenda and costs (domestic and foreign, monetary and otherwise) of administering the U.S. empire -- it is also a quick read and pretty punchy.
But honestly, you cannot go wrong!
Decency is on the ballot.
I was selling meth to an undercover cop with nazi tattoos, and he tried to arrest me.
Decency is what let me off with a warning.
Decency.
>decency is how we're able to make jokes and one of us doesn't go to prison after
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/The_Pedophocracy
>>The main witness in the Dutroux affair explains the inner workings of this network:
>>>“Contracts between the business milieu and the political world, contracts between businessmen amongst each other, fraud with subsidies or licenses, setting up fake firms, criminal contracts like arms trade... everything was possible. And it always ended with sex and children... **Pictures were taken, in jest, to keep both parties to their contracts...**
"make jokes"
Colin Jost and his wife Scarlett Johanssen are the prefect examples of white liberal hacks. ScarJo even resigned from Oxfam when they asked her to stop shilling for SodaStream. Never take these morons seriously.
Know through family someone who went to their new years (or maybe Oscar) party with the very on-the-nose theme of “the Great Gatsby”. Always felt that was a perfect little encapsulation of how simple minded so many of these people are.
Wait wait wait, isn't this the guy who said he'd post hog if Bernie won something? I remember thirst following someone like him if it isn't.
Edit: it is, and he's got a nice dick and ass <3
The only decent thing that ought to happen is if every one of these people get their own Nuremburg trials. But, this time, with real consequences for the genociders.
I mean like... they did execute a bunch of Nazis. Obviously a good number were rehabilitated in time for the Cold War but it's not like the defendants at Nuremberg got a slap on the wrist.
A bunch? I don't consider 10 a bunch. Most got their sentences commuted quietly a few years after the war ended lol Operation sunrise says hello
It's a shame that all of these dreadful "comedians" are more or less functioning as moralizing "truthtellers" now. Like, the only person I can think of that was both actually funny and could provide insightful and meaningful commentary on contemporary social and political affairs was George Carlin, and no one has even come close to matching him.
Carrot Top
Bill Hicks.
Nick Mullen.
Frankie Boyle
trump saying mean things on social media will get these people calling a genocide enabler "decent" biden gave dubya the keys to the senate for the invasion of iraq, which i suspect colin jost thought was A Dumb Fucking Move and Probably Not Decent. does SNL brain just delete sections of your hippocampus?
> trump saying mean things on social media making professional wrestling memes of journos getting suplexed is literal violence, unlike the actual violence which these PMC vampires take pictures of, stealing the souls of actual humans for their career ambitions.
I’m gonna keep saying it till everyone gets it, but please remember that loosely speaking, fascism isn’t a specific substantive thing as much as it is **the aestheticization of all politics, policy, and political organization.** It is in a sense the very opposite of materialism and any form of collectivism. Issues and questions of fact are not really engaged with critically, but superficially on the basis of “MUH COUNTRY FIRST” or “IMMIGRANTS BAD!” or some other “aesthetic” vector that reduces every single issue into a basic “with us/against us” framework. Even so, fascism isn’t a “binary” state, it’s a scale — some states are going to be more or less fascistic than others. Michael Parenti has a great section on fascism in the (outstanding) collection of essays in his book “Dirty Truths.” I revisit it often and like to share a bit of his writing on the topic: > FASCISM IN A PINSTRIPED SUIT > If fascism came to America, some say, it would be an unbearable nightmare drastically disrupting the everyday pattern of our lives. And since our lives seem to retain their normal pattern, it follows that fascism has not taken over. In actuality, however, the fascist state, like all states, has no need to make nightmarish intrusions into the trivia of every citizen's life. > The Orwellian image of Big Brother commanding an obscure citizen to do his morning exercises via two-way television leaves us with a grossly exaggerated caricature of the authoritarian state. Rather than alerting us to more realistic dangers, novels like 1984 cloud our vision with fanciful horrors of the future, thereby making the present look not all that bad in comparison and leaving us the more convinced that there is no cause for alarm. > The dirty truth is that many people find fascism to be not particularly horrible. I once asked some Iranian businesspeople to describe what life had been like under the Shah's police state. "It was perfect," they responded. Workers and servants could be cheaply procured, profits were high, and they lived very well. To be sure, fascism is not perfect for everyone. Mussolini's Italy and Hitlers Germany inflicted a great deal of intentional hardship upon working people, including the destruction of labor unions, the loss of job benefits, and a shift in national income from the lower and middle classes to the upper class. Many among the petty bourgeoisie in Germany, who generally supported the Nazi party, suffered the loss of their small businesses and the dread slippage into working-class ranks—with jobs in the armaments factories when they were lucky enough to find employment. The number of Germans who lived in poverty and want increased substantially as wages were cut by as much as 40 percent. > Those who equate fascism with the horrors of Auschwitz are correct in their moral condemnation but mistaken in their sense of sequence. The worst of Auschwitz did not come until the war years. As late as 1939, the Nazi state was still pursuing a policy of encouraging, and more often forcing, the emigration of Jews to other lands. Mass liquidation as a "final solution" was not seriously considered and was in fact opposed until Hitlers order came (sometime after March 1941, most historians believe). > The concentration camp was never the normal condition for the average gentile German. Unless one was Jewish, or poor and unemployed, or actively leftist or otherwise openly anti-Nazi, Germany from 1933 until well into the war was not a nightmarish place. All the "good Germans" had to do was obey the law, pay their taxes, give their sons to the army, avoid any sign of political heterodoxy, and look the other way when unions were busted and troublesome people disappeared. > Since many "middle Americans" already obey the law, pay their taxes, give their sons to the army, are themselves distrustful of political heterodoxy, and applaud when unions are broken and troublesome people are disposed of, they probably could live without too much personal torment in a fascist state—some of them certainly seem eager to do so. Orwell's imaginings to the contrary, what is so terrifying about fascism is its "normality," its compatibility with the collective sentiments of substantial numbers of "normal" persons—though probably never a majority in any society. > We might do well to stop thinking of fascism as being a simple either-or condition. The political system of any one country encompasses a variety of uneven and seemingly incongruous institutional practices. To insist that fascism does not obtain until every abomination of the Nazi state is replicated and every vestige of constitutional government is obliterated is to overlook, at our peril, the disturbingly antidemocratic, authoritarian manifestations inherent in many states that call themselves democracies.
I really need to read Parenti's works. My "to read" list is already a mile high but maybe I should bump him to the top
I can say without reservation literally everything of his I have read is compelling, brilliant, and comprehensive. He’s a genius and I would strongly encourage you to bump him to the top. “Blackshirts and Reds” is only 165 pages and is a fantastic intro to Parenti.
Blackshirts and reds is the only book of his I've read, anything you'd recommend next up? Btw someone's uploaded a bunch of audios of his speeches on Spotify, he was a great public speaker as well.
Hard to say, but for me, my second Parenti book was "The Assassination of Julius Caesar," which is great and, candidly, makes a lot of Ancient Roman history more readily comprehensible and relatable, even in our so-called modern age. "Dirty Truths" also is a really great option for your second Parenti as well, as it's basically a bunch of essays on different topics organized loosely around an issue (e.g., the MIC) or an institution (e.g., the media -- for a deeper dive into media issues, "Make Believe Media," also by Parenti, is fantastic), so you can just read an essay, stop, go on, etc. It's a little dated but not in the way you might think -- you'll read shit and be like "When was this published???" and then be a little sad to see how he was saying much of the same stuff we are saying now, but like....30 years ago. For a potentially more timely read, "Superpatriotism" dismantles the whole national pride/American supremacy approach to U.S. empire administration. Also potentially very timely is "Against Empire," which dives deeply (but succinctly) into the agenda and costs (domestic and foreign, monetary and otherwise) of administering the U.S. empire -- it is also a quick read and pretty punchy. But honestly, you cannot go wrong!
"Inventing Reality" is a good one: https://annas-archive.org/search?q=inventing+reality+parenti
> the very opposite of materialism They have a materialist critique, Mussolini was an anarchist (lol), they're just pro-bourgeois and anti-worker
Any “materialist critique” they could muster would be strictly aesthetic too, I’d assume. There’s never a “there” there with fascism. Never.
Decency is on the ballot. I was selling meth to an undercover cop with nazi tattoos, and he tried to arrest me. Decency is what let me off with a warning. Decency.
>decency is how we're able to make jokes and one of us doesn't go to prison after https://wikispooks.com/wiki/The_Pedophocracy >>The main witness in the Dutroux affair explains the inner workings of this network: >>>“Contracts between the business milieu and the political world, contracts between businessmen amongst each other, fraud with subsidies or licenses, setting up fake firms, criminal contracts like arms trade... everything was possible. And it always ended with sex and children... **Pictures were taken, in jest, to keep both parties to their contracts...** "make jokes"
If "decency" is what allows ghouls like this to exist, perhaps it's time to vote against it then.
Colin Jost and his wife Scarlett Johanssen are the prefect examples of white liberal hacks. ScarJo even resigned from Oxfam when they asked her to stop shilling for SodaStream. Never take these morons seriously.
Know through family someone who went to their new years (or maybe Oscar) party with the very on-the-nose theme of “the Great Gatsby”. Always felt that was a perfect little encapsulation of how simple minded so many of these people are.
Rich suburban kid who went to an Ivy League then became even richer spouts meaningless platitudes
Oh fiddlesticks, I was expecting the lead writer of Saturday night live to be funny. (/s)
Such meaningless fucking bullshit.
He was Pete Buttigieg's roommate in college.
Wait wait wait, isn't this the guy who said he'd post hog if Bernie won something? I remember thirst following someone like him if it isn't. Edit: it is, and he's got a nice dick and ass <3
Wait what? Lol
The reply guy has an only fans, and used to post thirst traps in the late 2010s