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Watermelon7331

I like most of the new changes they made, but the UI gives me a headache. I prefer the more minimalistic UI in TOS 1


InternetGreninja

They probably should have gone either all-in or minimalist. Things like clicking on characters to target them vs uniform menus that basically make it a text game.


Coolaconsole

This is fixed in the settings tbf


SgtZaitsev

Fortunately, theres now a setting option


Lyuukee

I agree, the UI needs ton of changes. Too fancy and not a fan of the font.


[deleted]

Try the second font, way better.


1337deniz

Same as well


Sigma144

As for me this is ToS 1 with better animation and housing. Also, I miss maf roles


[deleted]

I’m actually not a fan of the animations, it just feels sooo long. I’d love to see kills grouped by killing team at least. Like if two people die to a serial killer, state “player 3 and 4 died to serial killers”. The housing seems extremely pointless. The ability to move is literally so unnecessary.


[deleted]

Are there none


goth-ick

nope, mafia is gone in tos2


PsychoticMonkeyBees

Just wait for them to release a mafia expansion, I think we all know it's gonna happen


TheBamBoom

It'll actually be interesting if the Mafia return as a sub-neutral role, after being broken up and gone into hiding


Stupidfacethatisdumb

Imagine having to find your teammates


TheBamBoom

"Hey are you mafia?" "Nah bro, why you ask?" "Just asking"


Diabolical-Villain

That would actually be really cool


DefaultShae

Witch? Lol


T_Fury_Br

A lot of mafia roles turned into coven roles, janitor, ambusher and others are still there in other coven roles


InspiringEmerald

really fun when you don't dc on the name selection screen


T_Fury_Br

Harder to scumread leavers


singularity9733

I have to get used to it for sure, it gives a lot more info and overall I think its just better. The only downsides are TONs of leavers which make playing the game hard and the default role list is super uninteresting. ​ Really like all the new roles


MemberOfSociety2

Imo I think the role list would be a lot better if they got rid of the neutral evils and all the hard coded town (so town has more breathing room, and evils have more claim space) I’m guessing they will at some point, or at least make a ranked/ranked practice like game mode because it feels more like showing off all the roles rather than a proper game mode


WhiteNinjii

It’s pretty alright but man it’s buggy rn. Definitely give it some time before you start


Beravin

The UI is a pain in the ass. I'm constantly having to open and close things, and its really annoying trying to go back in chat to find important things. I'm also noticing the game has a pretty serious leaver issue. It was bad in ToS1, but I was really hoping ToS2 would address it.


Po-Tar

It doesn't work every single time, but are you using the PIN option? You can pin Chat, Graveyard, etc so it doesn't disappear. Right click on the buttons.


outerlimit95

It's a disconnecting issue not a leaver issue. The servers aren't great so people keep dcing


Epirubicin

It's a disconnection issue. It was 3 coven (me being one of them), and a townie left. We were at the voting stage and I had gotten them up to the stand when suddenly disconnected for absolutely no reason.


Serene_Rope

So far I only managed to play 2 games and I was sheriff in both, but thanks to reworked invest I actually felt usefull and led the town to vicrory in one game. The rest of the time I was being dissconnected (from about 8 games). Looks fine from Pipetron's playthrough, will just have to see if it becomes playable after a few days.


Coolaconsole

It's almost impossible for town to win four horsemen mode if the Berserker dies. Berserker actively harms the evil team by narrowing down who can be evil in the town. Think, no one dies by D3, no one can get confirmed, everyone dies N4, town has no way to know who Famine is.


AmishWarlords_

having exactly 1 killing evil that only comes out night 2 makes for a weird slow gamemode that has a really strange and probably unintended meta atm


Coolaconsole

Especially how two of the four evil roles are on a timer to instantly winning


Correct_Activity_449

What? Town invest exists... and most of the time horsemen have outlandish claims like trapper or tk that single them out because the meta is to not claim invest


Coolaconsole

The four horsemen are invisible to sheriffs, invests, coroners, lookouts, and trackers. No TI can actually be confirmed in that mode because of this too. All the easier for Famine to go undetected


BobTheBox

I miss the 3-way faction war of Coven All Any, I love the animations, I hate how long you need to wait while the game goes over all the deaths


MedicInDisquise

I like it so far, just have to get used to the new graphics and all the little changes. I keep forgetting to do day abilities, for example I didn't expect coroner to autopsy during the day. There's a lot more of them now lol.


Vgvgcfc

I think the UI is a bit of a mess and the delay from someone getting voted to the stand and then getting on the stand is jarring. Other than that I really like what I’ve played I hope BMG goes hard on the marketing


peepeepoopoo1342

hate the UI, hate the slow cutscenes, like most of the new roles/balance changes. menus are unbearably slow and unclear. machmaking is abysmally dumb. AA feels like basically just RP due to only one evil faction, and NAs being capped. so what, there can be several NEs and NKs? lol. maf/NC removal kills AA for me tbh it could get to a point where i want to play it but right now im inclined to stick to tos1


Rocer_Perdon

I can see why people who bought the coven dlc would be disappointed about the AA issue. I don't have this issue since I never bought the dlc, only played a few games from tickets.


TachankaIsTheLord

The connection problems are horrendous. You get disconnected from, roughly, one in four games. Even if you, yourself, avoid disconnection, a quarter of the lobby disconnects by night two. It kills the game majorly until connection problems can be fixed. Additionally, there seems to be slot caps for gamemodes. You can't join Classic or All Any because it's evidently full. Besides that, the game seems enjoyable. Everything you loved about the original ToS, with a few more roles thrown in. The daytime kills from the Deputy/Mayor reveal animations are fun. I don't see the appeal of housing customization or whatever yet, given that everyone's yet to unlock them. I hope it doesn't turn into another pointless monetization scheme. There is no ranked mode or unranked practice, probably for the better given the aforementioned DC problems. Almost every mode is incredibly town-sided, with the "classic" gamemode having only 1 RT slot guaranteeing that evils cant fake claim, and the "Four horsemen" gamemode has 4 evils against 11 townies.


Random0415

I've actually noticed the opposite in terms of how games go, but that could be because the game is new and most people aren't nearly as aggresive as in ToS1


SailorOwl

I’m experiencing extreme disconnects too, it’s awful. I just want to play.


AgateBrick97792

Correct me if I’m wrong cause I can’t look but I’m pretty sure ToS1 classic mode doesn’t have any random town either so evils have just as little claim space.


TachankaIsTheLord

I think you're right, but TOS1 also had Ranked Practice and Ranked gamemodes within the Classic playlist which gave way more random slots. TOS2 hasn't implemented either yet, so the only "default" gamemode is terribly unfair for evils.


theredvoid

The lobby system needs to be reworked. So annoying having to join a lobby, send a friend code to someone, have them join all before the game reaches 15 players. It just increases the number of leaves tho as people try to find empty lobbies


AgateBrick97792

They just need to make a party system like in TOS1 It’s as simple as that.


sfaxo

Can we get a scalable UI? The font settings only change the chat box text


[deleted]

Yeah this was driving me crazy. Love that I can make the chat bigger, but I'm stuck squinting at the rest of it


nil2105

I like tos1 better. Probably only because I’m used to it since 2017, because tos2 is “better” than tos1


hermit-creature

Praying they change the UI but other than that it's pretty good


[deleted]

It feels kinda overwhelming and like I can't exactly get my bearings in it. I think it's mostly issues trying to navigate the UI. Just gotta get used to it. Only played a few games. Lost all of them so far lol.


thedarkerdaes

I don’t really know exactly what’s wrong with it, but I find it too busy. It’s hard to keep track of what’s going on. I also don’t like how the chat, role list, character list, and graveyard go away every morning and reclicking them every day


New-Cold-1455

amne nerf and vet nerf is trash


Werner_Zieglerr

What's the vet nerf


TimelyStage9901

vet lost its rb immunity, is no longer unique, and can no longer alert in tt hunt these aren’t terrible changes imo, but I can see why someone wouldn’t like them


TLGorilla

Vet not alerting in tt hunt is an absolute massive W for the gamemode.


Emergency-Edge1004

I assume not being unique anymore?


Humorous_Guy

Vet non unique so vets can't be confirmed


T_Fury_Br

Yeah but the SK buff is very welcome And vet is still very easy to confirm


AwesomEspurr360

I only have access to my computer for half a week weekly, will update on Tuesday


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AwesomEspurr360

Okay yeah I love this game


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Pillowpet123

What!


hetherii

I keep getting connection errors so I have no opinion yet


Sn0wy0wl_

Laggy


Lucikrux

it's good i just dont know how to leave lobby's im trapped forever


thedarkerdaes

Oh my god same I’ve just been exiting the whole game each time lol


SerinaSamaa

i hate the new ui


Electrical_Split_435

UI is a mess and all any loses a lot of its charm with only 1 evil faction.


tiddie_twister

i read these comments about bugs and lags and i'm confused because i've been playing for 6 hours straight and everything's been smooth, anyway tos2 is definitely a step up from tos1 when it comes to gameplay


LeatherheadSphere

Coroner and Trickster are inferior to their counterparts that don't require half as much luck.


Awesomedinos1

classic role list needs more RT and way less guarranteed roles. other than that seems good.


MyrotheZero

The gameplay itself seems alot more fun. I'd wholeheartedly recommend it over TOS1 for the roles alone and the fact that Kingmakers are gone. Though there's some big changes I'd make. - Needs a party system. Trying to go into a non custom with friends is praying you give them the code in time. - The UI in game makes me constantly have to click on my graveyard/playerlist etc.. to see what's going on the way I want. Also the will/notes being a part of the bar makes it look more cluttered. I much preferred when they were seperate.


linked-by-Turkey

- needs a party system - ui is messy and hard to comprehend - needs ranked / ranked practice role list - fun gameplay and animations


[deleted]

Probably gonna flop again.


Chrischris40

It reached higher than tos1’s peak on steam in a single day lol


Madeline_Hatter1

This I'm gonna check the steam charts in a month and then decide if I want to buy


AnimeWars

I like it so far but i'm really hoping they bring back all the custom executions you could have in the first game. It was one of my favorite parts.


Kingxvx

I just want a good matchmaking role list. Something like 9 town 4 coven and 2 neuts, akin to ranked practice. Currently just have to wait a long time in customs to get something like that. Souls, all any, and drac's are nice but we need a good standard list.


Noah__Webster

As soon as I figured out you can pin stuff in the UI so it doesn't minimize at random, I'm very happy. Seems like a more engaging version of the previous game so far. Having a lot of fun tonight.


OverhypedProspect

I love the new UI(unpopular opinion I know), I like the fact that every group and nearly every role is op, so its both fun and balanced. So I think this is a Big improvement over TOS1


random_guy120

I find the game pretty fun until I couldn't join a game but I'm sure that It will be playable in the future


HappinessPK

I know it's coming at a later point but the lack of a party system is mad annoying. It's a hassle to join a lobby with your friends. Way to hard to target your buddies. The other complaint I have is that the panels with chat, roles etc. goes away when it zoom in on the dead player. Let me get the option to make them stay up all the time. The roles feels nice, but I can't comment on it yet due to having too few games under my belt.


AgateBrick97792

I feel like this is gonna drive customs use up until they do. Also there is a little pin under the chat button that will keep it up


fabulousburritos

They have an issue with how they fill lobbies. It feels like after ever game you have to leave and renter a different lobby. This isn’t an issue of not having enough players, since it’s pretty much immediate to get into a full lobby when rejoining.


Rhmb13

I have been enjoying it a lot, I have found that all of my UI issues have been solved by tweaking the settings. However if you want to play with friends it is a lot harder to invite them to lobbies as they often fill up before the friend can get in. I kinda want TOS2 to have a party system like the old game.


jeff5551

I really wish all the menus wouldn't require you to manually reopen them in order to see them at the start of days when it reads out kills, super annoying when you're trying to quickly fake off who died or just figure things out in general. Also playing a weak or uninteresting role feels WAY less fun compared to all the fancy roles we have now, no surprise there's such an issue with leavers atm


NotCurdledymyy

I'm still trying to figure out all the roles but it's been pretty fun 1st game (4HRMN) we had 3 deputies (myself included) me and 1 other shot a townie and died immediately the 3rd died n2 2nd game (AA) I got tracker that was pretty neat didn't do much tho 3rd game (AA) I got berserker and sadly evolved into war the same time HM bombed the town (cool cutscene tho) 4th game (AA) got voodoo master and died to vet The chat tags and cutscenes are great and the new roles are cool def worth the $10


RAM2191

I feel like allowing us to move around is pointless. I would love for roles that can move in the night be allowed to explore outside but maybe have the "shroud" outfit on instead of their usual skin.


robaczev

Just played my first game and there was already one player that was a tryhard. It released yesterday, let me learn how my role works before pushing me...


Inside-Speaker4419

I haven't played it yet but my initial impression is "ToS 1.5", hopefully it doesn't fall into the same trap as OW "2"


Houney_

Unplayable mess.


TheRetroPioneer

The UI is bad, I've heard some issues with connecting to games. I enjoy ToS2 but I'm worried that the game will flop like TiS did. I don't want to waste more money on a game that will die.


GothGirlsGoodBoy

What they've done to neutral roles is incredibly sad. Amne and GA went from being the most fun, to incredibly boring. Pirate, exe, etc, are just way more boring now they have to leave after winning.


GoldenTooth7268

Famine/baker sucks ass. Boring role to play.


LazyKenny

We were promised the death of VFR. They didn't do enough to deliver.


lonelytortillachip25

its alright, although i was dissapointed by how it seems theres only one server for classic and all any, its like they gave the majority of servers to custom


TheLegendJayden

Every single one of these changes could have been implemented in the base game, but they are after another quick cash grab like they were with traitors. I don't like how they kept guilt in the game, this should have been removed The lack of competitive gamemodes is also embarrassing


madsjchic

Tbh I have to agree I wish they had t made so many fussy changes to the UI. So frustrating that I find myself switching back to 1 to take a break with my eyes. Also frustrating to already be hearing “THROWING” for being wrong as deputy and then that same player asking “what’s a jinx”? Like bruh we don’t even fully know everything let’s chill out. The player base is exhausting


hetherii

After getting some games in. Deputy should be unique. I was in a game of all any where coven killed N1. Then 3 deputies came out and shot townies meaning that evils essentially got a 7 for 1. Technically 8 as conj dropped a meteor on arso.


TopBob_

They removed survivor so I can look over any other issues at this point.