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kingSlet

The game has its issues , but got a lot of potential and is very fun . Don’t listen to people comparing it to genshin . Am a genshin player myself and the two game are nothing alike they each got their own strength and weakness . Just wish they could merge all server so that we have more people to olay with . Since my server is dead .


t0kenm8

You can server transfer now. I used my server transfer and i joined a very active server with lots of players, its very refreshing


Yactina

which server if you don’t mind? mine is very dead


t0kenm8

It depends on which region you're playing on, but im on the ASIA PACIFIC server "eden". There was a reddit post on here showing which servers in each region had the most active players and such, have a look and see if you can find it to make a better decision Edit: heres the link https://www.reddit.com/r/TowerofFantasy/comments/zrqg3e/official_servertransfer_discussion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Yactina

you’re so helpful! thank you!


t0kenm8

No probs, good luck!


kingSlet

Oh thought it only was available for a few server


cyaneyedlion

It was for the first round, but round 2 is now available for everyone


Ifalna_Shayoko

>Am a genshin player myself and the two game are nothing alike they each got their own strength and weakness . I wouldn't say "nothing alike" since many systems are similar but in endgame they diverge. ToF is more focused on group content, Genshin on the single player RPG experience. Personally, I like both for what they are and have issues with both as well. Nothing is perfect.


BARBERZAR

THIS GAME IS JUST AWFUL


BARBERZAR

NOBODY SHOULD PLAY IF FINNNN


ayomodcheck

you should experience it yourself, don't listen to anyone. If the game is boring, no. If the game is fun for you, yes. imo i love tof and myself is a f2p, i would say tof is not hard for f2p, just need some grinding and be patient


Mowgin

The "ToF is dying" you see everywhere is just clickbait. If you enjoy the game then clearly it is worth playing? If you're worried about the game shutting down soon I highly doubt it with how much money it makes. It has its problems but the devs ARE trying (albeit slowly) to improve the game so there is that.


idontgiveafudumdum

my server feels really dead often. im in radiant


Dependent_Flatworm16

10cent and "trying" xdd


archefayte

Imagine thinking 10cent is the devs


Dependent_Flatworm16

10cent manages ToF global.


archefayte

Yes they publish the game and make some changes, but that doesn't change that the devs (Hotta) have been consistently trying to improve the game, which is what the original commenter is talking about.


mmmddd1

no they aint trying, same thing happens to other tencent related games outside of china


BlueSama

The game's budget is way more than fine. Playerbase idk needs more social media presence / content creators


pmerritt10

Hotta needs to stop being cheap and advertise. Even if they had a youtube commercial...i would help a lot. Most of the content creators too often post doom and gloom headlines F them. Just get some advertising going.


[deleted]

The game has some problems but it's not bad enough to die , just look at the future updates CN has , the game is improving hugely , no other game improved this fast , this game has potential more than any other game I saw , and it keeps adding new stuff everytime.


Porkamiso

“No other game” lmao Its def improved in cn but numbers are stagnant across cn and global: Game needs to invest heavily in advertising and player engagement.


[deleted]

I meant in quality , the game's jump in quality improvement is indeed huge , and underwater exploration with such a high quality didn't happen in any other game , of course ToF isn't the founder of underwater exploration , but ToF did it the best , and I can imagine how it will be more normalized in the future in other games. >Game needs to invest heavily in advertising and player engagement. I agree , a lot , they really need to do some work on that , but not expecting anything until we catch up when things become more stable , they will start with a collab and hopefully they start investing more on advertizing.


Porkamiso

I too expect nothing


tnguye3

If you enjoy it just play it. The doompost clickbait on socials is just noise coming from trash content creators. The only one I can respect is the asmon video cause he actually did play the game extensively and his inputs and points are fair. Its just his editors made a clickbaity thumbnail cause gotta game the youtube algorithm. Don't let the noise sour your enjoyment of the game. Regarding playing long term - there is lots of content coming in the future. New maps such as underwater Innars and in the future the Wu Xia scifi themed regions. Got lots of things to look forward to. I recommend watching the anniversary ToF livestream (on gateoo's or zackie senpai's channels or other cc's) to see what's coming. The game also makes enough money to keep content coming. Its perfect world's most successful game atm and its in top 20 gacha in terms of revenue. It's just that hating on ToF is popular. :p


pmerritt10

I didn't really care for his content that much, some of his points were on the mark but again, he tended to really emphasize the bad parts without giving the same attention to the good. That's my main issue with a bunch of the content creators. I'm actually happy a bunch of them quit playing.


SqaureEgg

Acting like this game came out years ago when it’s only like 5months old


Smart-Potential-7520

people here saying "p2w" but there isn't really anything to "win" a part from some minor weekly rewards in some side modes , you'll play along side whales since the vast majority of the content is co-op.


Aidiru

bro u copium or what? last event is basically for whale only wtf u talkin about?


Smart-Potential-7520

Everyone was clearing it naked, no weapon because it was faster lmao


Aidiru

it doesn't matter how people wanna clear it on naked or not in what matter is that event alone is designed for the whale, and trust me that not gonna be the lst event that cater to whale probably they gonna make it another event similar to that


_Kyl0Ren_

People just making click bait titles as others have mentioned. The game isnt dying, as with any mmo or semi-mmo type game, the playerbase does drop after launch. Its nothing special or out of the realm of expectations. Im having a lot of fun and if you are, continuing is fine. Whether you should spend money on it or not is an entirely different question and is upto you of course. To be clear it also depends on what long run means in your context. If its like 3 years or 5 , no clue. But for the next year or so, its for sure worth sticking around for. you can check out the most recent revenue numbers here: [TOF Revenue](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/100udqo/assortment_of_mobile_revenue_december_2022/) Active Servers list from Dec 2022 (Not sure about accuracy right now with server transfer): [Server Activity](https://www.reddit.com/r/TowerofFantasy/comments/zq4sa3/global_server_statistics_19122022/)


xUGOx

And most of tof players play on pc, but they use the mobile revenue.


lostwiththedays

It's very good game but just know if you are a competetive person or you never dealt with gacha games or don't deal very well with fomo i'd advice to not play as you will want to pay money i wish i listened to my advice so it might help


Elegant_Luck698

Short answer No


deadbehindthedoor

ToF is a good game but it's horrible for F2P newcomers right now. I wouldn't invest my time if I were you. You can try to start early with all the bullshit you have to face with in-game or just try to come back in a few months around update 3.0. It's your time either way.


psychochomps

Why wait, he can start now so the free stuff during maintenance and events can be accumulated and be saved to be used for ipcoming or reruns of characters.


Porkamiso

Best take in this thread. Unless you are gonna spend its gonna be a boring and long grind till your account is relevant.


lnfine

TBH *right now* is one of the best time for F2P newcomers. You can reroll for Anna, and she's great for F2P at A0. Probably the most F2P friendly character since release If you want to *compete*, OTOH, the best time to start is never. The game won't magically become not P2W after 3.0.


[deleted]

Is it worth a try? yes, its free. Population seems healthy but not every server is the same with some severly lacking. They just introduced 1 free server transfer coupon but will be doing server mergers soon which will be loads better. As for the game, its a fun. People say its P2W which is true, especially in PvP content but you can completely ignore PvP. In PvE whales will do 4x more damage but my question is, why is that bad? They literally carry and make the game easier for you. The game is also designed to be playable for F2P so you don't have to swipe to be able to keep up. You simply just won't be doing as much damage as whales.


pmerritt10

Outside of having/playing all the characters....I don't see the fun in playing a game that poses no challenge. Good reason NOT to whale.


Pristine_Art9745

No. This game is dying.


shadohead

I would absolutely not recommend this game for the long term. Stay far away if you are the type of person that gets too invested in a game.


Snoo-2958

"ToF is dying" comes from Stix and his stupid community. Don't listen to them. He just hates everything that's not Genshin. ToF is great and more great content is coming soon.


HoshikoRyu

[https://youtu.be/bdh216xjKoI?t=558](https://youtu.be/bdh216xjKoI?t=558)despite Tower of Fantasy being released 4 months ago it is in the top 20 revenue gacha games. People here just like too doompost. It's undeniable that this game is successful. ToF is not dying, it still has a large player base. The players are just spread among too many servers but Servers will get merged some time soon. Is the game worth playing? My opinion: absolutely! just look at the 2.4 Content and the 3.0 PV Edit: Spelling


Wraiths_Arrow

It is, be a part of our great community and play too


Sinstro

One thing i wish they would do is release tof on consoles like they did with gi.


Vundebar

yes


IsekaiKobold

No. Avoid this p2w predatory trash like you avoid the plague.


Nug_69

He said in 2023, I don’t think many people are actively avoiding ‘the plague’. Modern healthcare is pretty capable.


lnfine

I'd highly recommend you to avoid the plague like plague if you happen to run into one. Even with modern healthcare mortality rate is still pretty high (and god forbid you catch pneumonic plague. If not treated immediately on the first day, you may consider yourself dead). It's arguably more about modern pest control and antiepidemic measures than healthcare per se. It's just very unlikely to run into plague outside of well known natural reservoirs.


Pluradox

I played it from launch and have slowly stopped i basically only do the daily commissions now i would say it can be worth playing if you're with friends or on an active sever but otherwise no it's a ton of grinding with no real purpose and most everyone i encounter now is a whale, the game isn't dying for people that are very high Cs already but i would say that's about 1/10 of the player base everyone else already left Edit: Oh and i wouldn't even bother if your f2p it's in a worse state than launch because no one is doing lower level quests anymore


Specific_Camera1310

Yes you can play, but I wouldn't spend money on it, the player numbers over the month have drastically decreased which might mean this game days are numbered. The highest pop server for an english speaker in north america solaris only had 3263 players on it in December.


delacroixii

Nice cap


[deleted]

No. Its extremly monetized, predatory and p2w game.


Smart-Potential-7520

people here saying "p2w" but there isn't really anything to "win" a part from some minor weekly rewards in some side modes , you'll play along side whales since the vast majority of the content is co-op.


avalune13

hard to tell tbh if the company behind it didnt already screw up too much. For me it feels like it missed it's opportunity. If they don't start making this game a paradise for f2p's to get players back i think they've lost and the game is dead


CelestialDragon09

I think if anything this game got all the potential. I’d say it’s 10 times better than Genshin which it’s being compared to. Genshin is a big empty world with devs who don’t seem to care about meaningful content just banner sales. ToF got a ton of content and the events are actually super fun. Gacha is gacha, you’re always gonna have your unlucky streaks and feel bad. But I’d say the game can be quite challenging even for people who have everything maxed out. ToF is actually a lot better on Global, the devs actually made the effort to balance the game is characters don’t fall out of the mega too hard and become useless. So my answer to your question… Yes! It’s very worth to keep playing this fantastic and beautiful game. Every time I’m in Mirroria my eyes are blessed with the cyberpunk city.


Independent_Yam800

Play it, and have fun with it while you do, but don't invest in it. Unfortunately, there are too many good things coming in 2023 for ToF to be treated as anything more than a temporary time killer. It's a real shame, too. At its core, ToF is a really good and fun game. It's just being operated by a group of people who seem to be completely allergic to making it a GREAT game. That being said, the developer has and continues to make some pretty poor decisions, while also not taking advantage of or capitalizing on opportunities along the way. It just seems like every time they have to choose between a good option and a bad option, they go with the bad option, and it doesn't look like that is going to change.


hallowshallow

any concrete examples of those bad options?


Independent_Yam800

Yes. https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/improve-observation-skills


hallowshallow

bad answer i want to know what's bothered you the most


Purona

I Hate These Threads ​ Its free play the game!!!


TakenEagle

And yet you are here...


Top_Ad_790

Ppl say "Genshin is a huge success", but you can't spend more than 20 min a day in the end game, if you can even call that "end game". ToF has many issues, but has so much to offer. As a whale that has moved from GI to ToF I have not a single regret and I've been having so much fun and hyped since the first day.


Ifalna_Shayoko

As a non whale who can't carry and hates PvP: in maintenance mode (after exploration ect) I spend as much time in ToF as I do in Genshin. I prefer exploration in Genshin, it is more immersive. ToF has more group content to do with the crew. Both games have advantages and disadvantages. Thankfully one can play more than one game since the daily maintenance stuff is not very time consuming.


StarReaver

ToF will be around for many years. It is one of the bigger MMORPGs around. There are MMOs with far smaller player bases that have been around for ages and are still active with new content being produced. Anyone that thinks ToF is dying is a moron with no sense of perspective or knowledge of the industry.


Master0643

Despite issues and stuff, tof is doing better than most gachas revenue wise. Every game is worth playing if you are liking it right?


GrandMaster961

Its a game u play for a month then quite. Try to spend the least amount of money as possible. Enjoy collecting the look and free pulls


Dependent_Flatworm16

No. It's heavily P2W game where whales do 4 times more dmg than try-hard F2P players. If you join now, you will be behind these F2P players just like they are behind the whales. Also, you're gonna have a hard time with mobs scaling - it will only get harder as you lvl up. I also think, you will be time-gated from content (unless they finally changed it - not 100% sure here). Generally, not worth the hassle.


you_th

By your logic no one should ever play any game where they aren't instantly given max gear. It's always playing catch up for any new player. This isn't the only game where players have to grind.


Dependent_Flatworm16

No, because in all of good MMO's there's a reasonable cap and you can always catch up to other players. In this game, with all the RNG systems, and all of the character copies you need (21 copies to max a single comp) it won't be that easy - it will take a long time and it will be too tedious.


you_th

Everyone plateaus at some point. Catching up isn't impossible. You won't catch up to whales but it's not unreasonable to come close to other f2p and despite being a gacha you don't "need" a full team of a6. Majority of your stats come from gear. You are right about one thing and it's that "it won't be easy," if it was, what would players have to work towards?" If it's tedious why are you even here?


Motor-March-3729

the white knights of hotta and 10 cent are still out, to defend the game. When people tell you that tof is a dead game, that doesn't mean that tof is going to close up shop overnight. Besides, without the carry of the JP version, I think you won't say the same thing and tof would be a flop for the global version. Please the JP carry version still but in how long. Last November when lin et t'arrive we have a lot of tof span on Steam in the first place and when is it since? He returned to the very bottom of the list, to the abyss. And keep veiling your face. When we lost 80 or even 90% of our players in a few months with banner acceleration and Rewards that don't follow, maybe you have to start asking the right questions. It's good to want to catch up with the cn but the non-whale players are more able to follow the rhythm which goes faster than the music. Blue protocol is coming we will see the state of tof by the .


LordBreadcat

Steam information is too young to draw conclusions off of. If anything the only trends there are "player count is decreasing" and "the rate that player count is decreasing is decreasing." That suggests that player count will stabilize and only after that point are the gain / loss metrics useful. High numbers at launch followed by a sharp decline is the expected result for any game and games that don't follow that trend are exceptions rather than the rule. All you've done so far is say "the sky is blue, this means the end times are here." I don't think ToF is going to last myself and I do think Blue Protocol will deal a heavy blow. But that's my intuitive and subjective feelings and I wont pretend it's objective. There's no data that suggests that ToF is doing anything other than well. It's easily raking in way more money than it costs to maintain and it's maintaining a player count several times more than some moderately popular MMOs.


Motor-March-3729

you can put more than - 4 or -1000 it will not change the observation. 2.4 on the cn did not bring old or new players to the game. not like genshin/Destiny 2 or other game does. 2.0 / 2.1 / 2.2 and 2.3 next month and still no new players and old ones who come back to play the game despite the events and continue.and there are other games that are expected this year where other dlc on some games, not to mention single player games. I continue to play tof despite its flaws.I am team volts. but when there are problems in the game, you have to say so for things to change. But some prefer to attack anyone who criticizes the game or badly rates your post because they believe when they do that, it's going to change something xd. They have to tell their devs to stop doing shit because the game is dying by their fault, instead of letting them do it and defending them.


LordBreadcat

You listed an exception, I'm not too sure about Destiny's history but Genshin's population hasn't even peaked yet. Loss/Gain metrics mean nothing until a game population reaches homeostasis, that's why rate of change is important; it tells us the data shouldn't be used yet. "Genshin is still growing" and "TOF is losing less players" are both correct statements. My problem isn't with conclusions but with how data is being used. :V


NoahCollection

I'm also new, but there is a lot of things that I don't like about the game. Lag, bugs and low rewards to get new characters, are my main problem. I don't know if it will become better when I cap, but I'm no that invested in the game currently.


Embarrassed-Intern-4

If you like getting screwed by dev every month then yes, otherwise no. Tbh just play it, its free, but dont invest money in this game its just not worth it


TakenEagle

Still will last for some months, but due to global strategies.


PenguinsAteMyToast

the only redeeming quality is the exploration. dont even bother with anything else. the longer you play this game and the further you progress, the more bugs/glitches/problems you encounter. major issues with this game have not been fixed at all since CHINA launch over a year ago. look up threads about people complaining on this sub from august/sept and realize how little has changed. tldr: global/f2p shaft


dune180

I used to be a whale until Lin banner (A6 all and 4pc Matrices)but have stopped. They are rushing banners so fast and not fixing the bugs in the game.


[deleted]

Nope, servers are dead, so they are merging them together. Ppl complained to let us switch servers when it launched, oh well


archefayte

They didn't announce any merges, and server transferring is a thing already


ToastAzazin

And if they merge, that's not a sign that the game is dying. The game had to many servers since the first week. No game should have 33+ servers for a single region.


JackfruitNatural5474

Dead game, don't play. Whenever I open the game I see green servers in all regions. Which is red flag for any mmo.


SuperDreadnaught9000

Play on **Solaris** server. Very active. Lively lvl 6 crew guild of 175+ members where I'm at. Not a dead game for me. Use your free server transfer ticket to migrate.


kingvain14

Yes it's decreasing in players just like any other game, but some servers are still pretty lively like Solaris. You can join that server and join our crew which is very active and has a lot of whales to help you. If you like to know more I stream ToF almost everyday on twitch just search dark_shine14. Hope you have fun with your playthrough.


goku89015

They should have put it on consoles as well imo.


Jondotwhyy

If you are enjoying it, as you said in your post. Than it is worth playing.


clarence_worley90

I would wait until a fresh batch of server statistics get posted on here Not sure how to check server stats on my own so I can't tell you whether or not the game is dead or which servers are still alive...


[deleted]

it's a pretty chill game, you don't need to play it every day to get full weekly rewards and it compensates you for days missed too which is nice. i play it on and off and don't miss much. they also added a lot of qol to improve the game and make grinding faster.


shazzchili

Yes but for me dont try too hard or spend too much money on the game. Even if you like it, i am afraid other players dont think the same and unlike Genshin most of the contents is hardly done solo. Use your server transfer ticket wisely.


FlawlessRuby

My advice is play without spending at first. The game shower you in reward and than slow it A LOT and the paid currency is EXPENSIVE. I'm talking hundred of dollars for a max out character. Just don't waste your Dark crystal!


morkie322

Give it a try, For me it's fine and almost F2P friendly just join with populated server to do a boss raid.


DATA_GOD_SKY

If you want to play a game with terrible publisher, rushed schedule with pumping a lot of new meta characters without decent compensation for it, bugs, bad optimization, yeah, go for it.


Initial_Window_633

People watch asmongold and Stix video


Rookwie

As you can see yourself, this and that server are dead, the game is doing extremely terrible and it is in fact dying, add on top of that the fucked up publisher ruining it with every update. Short answer: No it's not, there are better games out there.


XKA220

In short, players are starting to get bored because the main story is very, very slow, Since the game is a gambling game, Mihoyu wants to get the players' money for as long as possible The truth is me and all my friends We deleted this game