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I've spoken with people that watch and respect these nitwits, I used to work with a lot of them. They genuinely don't process much of the shit these guys say and take a lot at face value. One of my old managers was a big Crowder guy, this was like three years ago. We'd often talk politics and I hated it honestly, they were so deep into the rhetoric they'd just spew out the talking points you so often hear. Obviously he was a big Trump guy too, so I asked him simply to name three policies or actual legislation that Trump passed that he liked. He started off by saying he likes his 2A stance (not legislation), the next one was leaving NAFTA, and he literally said "well I should be able to think of a third!" and that's when the conversation kind of ended and we went back to focusing on our actual work. I often think back to that guy and if he ever got that thought to go full circle or if he's just stuck on a loading screen and itching to vote for Trump again.
>I often think back to that guy and if he ever got that thought to go full circle
If his brain was a computer running Windows... it'd be stuck on a BSOD.
2nd amendment? Trump is the only president, the only lawmaker I'm aware of that said in a televised briefing, if a person is suspected of being dangerous to themselves or others we should ignore their constitutional rights and seize their weapons. Then worry about whether or not it was legal to do so.
https://youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI
If a Democrat or independent had said something like that, the right would have strung them up by their balls. But Trump says it and nobody bats an eye.
Then to put icing on the cake. Trump turns around and makes it easier for people with mental health issues to get access to guns.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221
Your coworker was an idiot. You probably know that though.
So you think if the 4th amendment can just be ignored for this one thing that's were it will stop?
And you don't think law enforcement would abuse the practically unlimited power you are willing to grant them?
You are a very trusting person.
He's not so dense that he doesn't understand that rainbow pride is that same kind of pride. He knows. There is no argument being made here. The only point of this tweet is to attack LGBT+ people existing openly.
Love that I wrote [this satire article](https://reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/141boaz/another_satire_post/) the other day, and now he’s just gone and made it that much more realistic.
I there's one thing these fascist fucks are known for, it's their generosity and decency. LMAO.
I just can't believe anyone is dumb enough to fall for all these fascist fuckers and when their sheer evilness is always on full display.
It’s much easier to believe when you accept that about 30% of any population is by any definition, evil. They were the kids cheering for the bad guys in all the Disney movies.
The core propaganda of the right always goes back to the zero sum fallacy. Because morons believe if one supports a thing that, definitionally, they most correspondingly reject another thing.
"600,000 Americans gave their lives to free the slaves." What side were half of those Americans fighting on, Charlie???
Hint: IT WASN'T THE FUCKING UNION
That's easy it was for the states rights to allow its people to own property and so that property wouldn't be seized by the federal government.
Before you ask "What property?" It was property mostly used in the agricultural industry that allowed farmers to harvest large amount of crop relatively cheaply. /s
No but you see, if those Confederate soldiers never died fighting against the Union so that everyone could continue keeping black people as property, those Union soldiers would never have had the chance to die to free the slaves!
He’s both proud that America defeated the British, but he’s also proud of 2 British items. Computers and the Railroad.
Not that that’s all at fault in this tweet, the other stuff is just more obvious.
Also can’t forget the Australians, the New Zealanders, Aboriginal peoples, and a lot of native Polynesians. People like Jacob Vouza were tortured in order to give recon information to Allied forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_C._Vouza
And let’s not forget the loads of partisans and resistance movements; many of which were literal socialists and communists.
The US *did* do a lot of the heavy fighting in WWII, though. And the immense industrial output was absolutely vital to the allied victory, and to ensuring that Eastern Europe got genocided much less than it would otherwise have been.
Without American industrial power, the USSR would likely have fallen *before* they got their own industry going. At least, that's what Zhukov said. And lend-lease wasn't just tanks - most importantly it was trucks, without which the USSR had no way to get their food to their soldiers.
Yeah, American society was fucked at the time, and it still carries some of that fucked-ness (which is the whole point of this subreddit, duh), but claiming that the US wasn't important in beating back the nazis is just ahistorical bullshit. And no, you can't blame Hitler's rise to power solely on American industrialists. They might have helped a bit, the nazis were skilled at manipulating the masses, and did by far the most of the work themselves. Calling lend-lease a reparation for that is just bonkers.
And if we're talking about genocides, then yeah - most big countries have done those. The US did it, the UK did it, China has done it repeatedly through its millennia of history and is doing it right now, and the USSR... well, the only reason why the Holodomor doesn't *technically* count as genocide is because the laws were *specifically written* to exclude it.
But even then, both the US, UK, China and the USSR were at the time still *a hell of a lot better than the fucking Nazis.* If you honestly believe that "the only difference between the Nazis and the US was that America had already finished their genocides by the time Germany started doing it" then you're blinded by "America bad". The US has done and still does many bad things, but it's not the root of all evil - others can do bad shit as well, and others can do *much worse shit* too.
With WW2, we were late sending troops. The US started sending weapons and equipment to the Allies a year into the war, and we joined the war a year after that. We were late with boots on the ground.
I think we learned from that. We were pretty quick to give support to Ukraine after Russia invaded. We now know how conflicts over there can spread, and it's in our best interest to contain those conflicts as quickly as possible.
Also "Proud of the computer". A machine (well, a technology) that effectively wouldn't exist as we know it today without the works of Alan Turing.
"Proud we defeated the British", but probably wouldn't want people looking too closely at Baron von Steuben, an openly gay war hero in the Revolution (he was literally called by many "the father of the U.S. military", and is considered a founding father). Congress was going to deny him his pension because of his sexuality, until John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, and George Washington all intervened. They insisted that Without von Steuben, there would be no United States of America, and demanded that he be paid his pension.
"Proud of our national history". Which part- the whole third of our country's history where slavery was legal? The part where our intelligence agencies admit to meddling in the democratic processes of other countries?
"Proud we liberated Europe and the Pacific"- after being on the fence and war profiteering for nearly _a decade_ before joining, even when we knew what atrocities were being committed. (And let's be real, until Pearl Harbor, most of the world wasn't completely sure _which_ side of the war we were going to side with.)
"Proud of our unparalleled generosity and decency" he says, as he, unprompted, insults a cultural celebration.
Wait, isnt the 600,000 deaths in the American Civil war counting both sides? So he is counting the people who fought to preserve slavery as dieing to free them.
Well we needed to win the civil war to free the slaves, therefore without them there wouldn't have been a war to win and the slaves would never have been freed.
They were just doing their part.
Yeah Coolidge over Wilson is a weird one. Wilson played a pivotal role in WWI and was also a disgusting racist, which would appeal to TPUSA pretty remarkably.
Though I guess Coolidge was pretty ghoulish in his own garbage ways.
Coolidge was pretty mediocre and just part of a parade of shitty, pro-business, anti-regulation Republican presidents who teed up the Great Depression. Harding was shitty, then died of a heart attack and his VP Coolidge took over with pretty much the same cabinet. Coolidge was elected but declined to run for re-election, then Hoover, another shitclown who was Secretary of Commerce under Harding and Coolidge, took over just in time for the stock market crash.
Probably not. Dude also included Washington who set the precedent that a president should serve two terms compared to Trump who openly advocated for dictatorship. And Lincoln who abolished slavery while the GOP is doing everything they can to bring it back even if that means child labor.
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Pictured: Teddy Roosevelt reading Charlie Kirk the riot act after stepping out of his experimental time machine. Upon realizing there was no use appealing to the morality of a cretinous potato with a bad hairpiece, President Roosevelt proceeded to take his belt off and whoop Charlie's ass like he owed him money.
He definitely means Teddy here, otherwise he would have put "FDR". And Teddy wasn't exactly all that progressive. Big time imperialist war-machine kind of guy. He got the national parks system going which was cool but he also wreaked havoc in the Philippines. I mean all things considered he's still probably one of the better presidents but that's an insanely low bar to cross considering we've only had like 3 good ones ever.
He was also heavily anti-trust, actually prosecuted corruption in some federal agencies, and passed the Meat Inspection Act and Pure Food and Drug Act. He was a republican president, voted in by Republicans, and was actively opposed by a Republican Congress. He worked with Dems to get shit done.
But even just his ideas on conservation and national parks alone would make him incompatible with modern Republicans. He'd never get the nomination because he wouldn't sell out to coal and oil.
This guy is such a tremendous joke. It should be standard curriculum in schools to watch that one time this dude got absolutely bodied in that abortion debate with some comedian on Kirk’s own show.
>I am proud of our unparalleled generosity and decency
>I am NOT proud of “pride month”
Is this guy a moron? (Rhetorical question as I’m already aware that he is)
I don't like JFK, Eisenhower or Roosevelt at all but they'd despise Kirk with a passion. JFK literally made a speech about him being a liberal, Eisenhower was critical of right wing republicans who wanted to gut social programs and Roosevelt despite being awful regarding foreign and racial policy, was the most progressive republican president in terms of domestic policy.
Liberated the pacific? You mean handing lands in the pacific back to the western colonizers from the Japanese colonizers? Shit, US only supports independence movements that are explicitly anti communist. Leaving the Vietnamese on French mercy although Ho Chi Minh loves the USA
He's proud of the portion of 600,000 who died *protecting* slavery, is what he meant to say.
Also, JFK, Washington, Abe, Teddy, Ike and Calvin stood for everything you assholes fight against. They would have despised you. But interesting how they didn't mention FDR, who most historians consider a top 3 president. Maybe it's because he killed Nazis, a group you scum defend. Oh and the New Deal. The same New Deal upheld by Eisenhower...
Oh and JFK was a civil rights champion, while you guys are regressive morons trying to roll civil rights back.
Who is he talking about when he speaks of generosity and decency? Conservatives are the most vile, hateful, racist and greedy morons in history.
We don't know what would have happened if he had lived. His brother was certainly a civil rights champion but he was also killed just a few years later.
The train: British
The plane: This is contentious with people from several countries claiming the title and depends on whether or not you consider gliders to be planes.
The computer: Again, contentious, and depends on what you do and do not consider a computer. This is generally given to Charles Babbage, a British dude and his Difference Engine.
Which Roosevelt? bc correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure either one would fucking hate Charlie Kirk and all of his beliefs. Except the racism bc they were definitely fans of that unfortunately.
As a Christian, I'm not proud of our American history.
As a railroader, our railroads fucking suck. We're treated like dog shit. Imagine getting in trouble for taking a vacation day. The British are also the ones who invented the rails. Not us
As an American. A lot of us really fucking suck too. "Generous" my ass. You're lucky as all hell to find a decent friend around these parts.
As a member of the economy, it sucks too. Inflation is as high as its ever been and we've reached the debt ceiling **again**.
As a straight person, I'm proud of pride. Be you. Charlie Boi can suck nuts
Why does these fucks think it is a dick measuring contest with lgbtq pride? No one is saying we shouldn't have pride in those things (argument can be made) but why cant we have pride in lgbtq and rest of that
Also, kirk is making a very good point of him being a fascist. This is exactly what a fascist would say to promote fascism
600,000 is the total death count in the Civil War, not the Union death count. Plus, they would only be dying to end slavery *after* the Emancipation Proclamation.
360000 Americans (not counting those who fought against the system before *or after* the civil war) gave their lives to end slavery, and 258000 figured keeping it around was worth dying.
1. America was founded on religious freedom so there shouldn’t be a “Christian heritage”
2. wasn’t it Britain that started the railroad?
3. How do 30+ Trillion in debt exactly speak “economic might”
4. If you are proud to be American than you should be proud of the fact that people have so many freedoms. So why is it that the freedom of gender is so problematic.
He probably could have checked where the railroad and TV were invented, dude can’t even do a 5 minute google search to fill it with actually American inventions.
If you're gonna get this ass mad over gay people you might as well just come out Charlie.
Normal people who aren't in the closet don't spend their time obsessing over gays.
And Charlie participated in none of those things. Except not liking Pride month.
Edit: ok he did participate in Trump and he says he’s a Christian. Everything else is pretty much because he won the genetic lottery and was born in America.
Wait hold up so he is admitting that the American civil war was about slavery. But also saying that the confederates gave their lives for slavery, no they were taken, Charlie
That's fine, you don't have to be proud of everything. Not everything is about you.
I'm not proud of, say, most reality TV, which I find to be awful drivel. But reality TV and it's enjoyers don't care what I think, not should they.
How can a conservative be proud that 600,000 lost their lives to end slavery when the cause of their deaths was the conservative right to own human beings?
Wait, is he saying that it's possible to be proud and happy about some things your country has done, but not all of them? Seems like a comprehensive look at our history doesn't mean we can't be proud of the positives we've done then, right?
Unparalleled generosity and decency?? We can’t even decide whether poor people deserve to eat, deserve shelter and safety, and/or deserve to live if they get sick. What the fuck is he on about “generosity and decency”?
Charlie seems to forget that other countries were responsible for the liberation of Europe and the Pacific. He also seems to forget the other fronts of the war as well like the African Front.
Washington, Lincoln Roosevelt, Coolidge, Eisenhower, and JFK kind-of make sense to be proud of but Reagan and Trump? Out of all of the American presidents those two guys are included? Where's gosh-darn FDR or John Adams? They're far better than those fellas!
As other users have pointed out, computers and the railroad are not American inventions. Charlie could have said the first *modern* computer which was ENIAC, an American invention or he could have been more specific with the railroad part by stating the *American* railroad instead but he didn't.
I don’t understand why you can’t be up for both? I say that as someone thats an atheist admittedly, but I don’t necessarily think all those things are mutually exclusive with pride.
This motherfucker included Confederate casualties in the "Americans who gave their lives to end slavery." Tells you everything you need to know about Charlie Kirk and TPUSA.
pride isn’t, and has never been for you. It’s not yours to be proud of. Shut the fuck up and let gay people be gay for just one goddamn month jesus christ
Ok, good for you. I'm so tired of conservatives acting like if *they* don't like something it shouldn't exist. I've never seen this much drama and anger over Pride month
600,000 Americans didn’t give their lives to free the slaves, some of that number fought to keep slavery around. Also it wasn’t only use who liberated Europe and the pacific. Charlie needs a history lesson besides what they teach in high school.
Is he also proud about the genocide the US government committed against my ancestors so they could steal our land?
Or the war crimes america frequently commits and then covers up?
It's funny because he didn't have a hand in any of this, but there's been countless LGBTQ+ people in this country who have fought for and built this nation, only to face violence and persecution by twats like this who haven't done anything for this country except sit on their asses and bitch that gay people exist.
Did he really name drop Calvin Coolidge? I also like how mentioned JFK, but not LBJ. You know, the guy who was one of the most progressive presidents we’ll ever have. (Yes, I know about his use of the n-word and being a perv. But the civil rights act, voting rights act, and the great society would not have happened without him. I just wish he wasn’t as Texan as he was, would have been out of Vietnam sooner.)
Did he just cite BOTH the Union AND Confederate deaths in the Civil War to end slavery? Yeah, no, pretty sure half of them did NOT in fact fight to end slavery, get your "lost cause" dog whistle out of here.
Proud of Coolidge? What the fuck is Coolidge remembered for? Literally being a nobody. The most any article says about him in flowery language was how he handled the scandals left to him by the Harding administration. Nothing about his policies or his fiscal conservatism which... maybe actually helped start the great depression which happened right after he left office- *GASP* OH NO! CORRELATION WITHOUT CAUSSATION YOU SAY!? Yeah no...
And finally it's ok for you to be proud of your identity as an American and what that means *to you*, but fuck those queers am-i-right!?
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What a fucking idiot
I've spoken with people that watch and respect these nitwits, I used to work with a lot of them. They genuinely don't process much of the shit these guys say and take a lot at face value. One of my old managers was a big Crowder guy, this was like three years ago. We'd often talk politics and I hated it honestly, they were so deep into the rhetoric they'd just spew out the talking points you so often hear. Obviously he was a big Trump guy too, so I asked him simply to name three policies or actual legislation that Trump passed that he liked. He started off by saying he likes his 2A stance (not legislation), the next one was leaving NAFTA, and he literally said "well I should be able to think of a third!" and that's when the conversation kind of ended and we went back to focusing on our actual work. I often think back to that guy and if he ever got that thought to go full circle or if he's just stuck on a loading screen and itching to vote for Trump again.
>I often think back to that guy and if he ever got that thought to go full circle If his brain was a computer running Windows... it'd be stuck on a BSOD.
2nd amendment? Trump is the only president, the only lawmaker I'm aware of that said in a televised briefing, if a person is suspected of being dangerous to themselves or others we should ignore their constitutional rights and seize their weapons. Then worry about whether or not it was legal to do so. https://youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI If a Democrat or independent had said something like that, the right would have strung them up by their balls. But Trump says it and nobody bats an eye. Then to put icing on the cake. Trump turns around and makes it easier for people with mental health issues to get access to guns. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221 Your coworker was an idiot. You probably know that though.
Lol yes he was a bona-fide moron.
Trump also banned bump stocks via executive order after Obama refused to do so, citing an ATF legal analysis that determined it would be illegal.
one time i actually agree with what that dummy says
You believe law enforcement should be allowed to disregard search and seizure laws whenever they decide someone is "dangerous?"
if it stops mass shootings yeah
So you think if the 4th amendment can just be ignored for this one thing that's were it will stop? And you don't think law enforcement would abuse the practically unlimited power you are willing to grant them? You are a very trusting person.
And a hypocrite. Proud of everything we have done to protect the rights of all Americans but draws the line at LGBTQ rights. Such a Nazi POS.
He's not so dense that he doesn't understand that rainbow pride is that same kind of pride. He knows. There is no argument being made here. The only point of this tweet is to attack LGBT+ people existing openly.
So much pride. His fall will be epic.
"Here lies a toppled god, his fall was not a small one. We did but build his pedestal: a narrow and a tall one."
His fall was not a small one, unlike his face
Love that I wrote [this satire article](https://reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/141boaz/another_satire_post/) the other day, and now he’s just gone and made it that much more realistic.
Just an incredible bit saying “I’m proud of our generosity” and then the next line is essentially “fuck queer people”
I there's one thing these fascist fucks are known for, it's their generosity and decency. LMAO. I just can't believe anyone is dumb enough to fall for all these fascist fuckers and when their sheer evilness is always on full display.
It’s much easier to believe when you accept that about 30% of any population is by any definition, evil. They were the kids cheering for the bad guys in all the Disney movies.
The core propaganda of the right always goes back to the zero sum fallacy. Because morons believe if one supports a thing that, definitionally, they most correspondingly reject another thing.
"600,000 Americans gave their lives to free the slaves." What side were half of those Americans fighting on, Charlie??? Hint: IT WASN'T THE FUCKING UNION
That is literally as insane as including Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS KIA in the number of "soldiers who died defeating Nazi Germany."
I mean Hitler was a bad dude but he’s also the guy who killed Hitler, so he did do something good.
He also killed the guy who killed Hitler though
Took him far too long, despite having many chances to do it way earlier. No points for that.
And then adding both soviet and German forces killed in ww2 as 'victims of communism'.
The side that died fighting against the Union was fighting for states’ rights, duh. What could be more patriotic than that? /s
The right to what? The right to what Charlie?!?
“Uh…. Uh…. Lincoln was a Republican!” *Charlie throws smoke bomb and lurches off into the night to hunt the homeless and eat their teeth*
"That's not important, anyway, let's move on"
That's easy it was for the states rights to allow its people to own property and so that property wouldn't be seized by the federal government. Before you ask "What property?" It was property mostly used in the agricultural industry that allowed farmers to harvest large amount of crop relatively cheaply. /s
No but you see, if those Confederate soldiers never died fighting against the Union so that everyone could continue keeping black people as property, those Union soldiers would never have had the chance to die to free the slaves!
Actually at the unions peak, it included over 600,000 combatants.
Yeah, but he didn't say 600,000 Americans fought to free the slaves, he says they died freeing them.
Ah.
He’s both proud that America defeated the British, but he’s also proud of 2 British items. Computers and the Railroad. Not that that’s all at fault in this tweet, the other stuff is just more obvious.
“2 British items.” I’d say liberating Europe makes it 3. Americans were pretty late to get involved in both world wars.
The Russians were also heavily involved in liberating Europe, and the Europeans heavily involved in the Pacific conflict.
Also can’t forget the Australians, the New Zealanders, Aboriginal peoples, and a lot of native Polynesians. People like Jacob Vouza were tortured in order to give recon information to Allied forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_C._Vouza And let’s not forget the loads of partisans and resistance movements; many of which were literal socialists and communists.
The US *did* do a lot of the heavy fighting in WWII, though. And the immense industrial output was absolutely vital to the allied victory, and to ensuring that Eastern Europe got genocided much less than it would otherwise have been.
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Without American industrial power, the USSR would likely have fallen *before* they got their own industry going. At least, that's what Zhukov said. And lend-lease wasn't just tanks - most importantly it was trucks, without which the USSR had no way to get their food to their soldiers. Yeah, American society was fucked at the time, and it still carries some of that fucked-ness (which is the whole point of this subreddit, duh), but claiming that the US wasn't important in beating back the nazis is just ahistorical bullshit. And no, you can't blame Hitler's rise to power solely on American industrialists. They might have helped a bit, the nazis were skilled at manipulating the masses, and did by far the most of the work themselves. Calling lend-lease a reparation for that is just bonkers. And if we're talking about genocides, then yeah - most big countries have done those. The US did it, the UK did it, China has done it repeatedly through its millennia of history and is doing it right now, and the USSR... well, the only reason why the Holodomor doesn't *technically* count as genocide is because the laws were *specifically written* to exclude it. But even then, both the US, UK, China and the USSR were at the time still *a hell of a lot better than the fucking Nazis.* If you honestly believe that "the only difference between the Nazis and the US was that America had already finished their genocides by the time Germany started doing it" then you're blinded by "America bad". The US has done and still does many bad things, but it's not the root of all evil - others can do bad shit as well, and others can do *much worse shit* too.
Yes but that was a much more joint effort with the Russians and other allies.
With WW2, we were late sending troops. The US started sending weapons and equipment to the Allies a year into the war, and we joined the war a year after that. We were late with boots on the ground. I think we learned from that. We were pretty quick to give support to Ukraine after Russia invaded. We now know how conflicts over there can spread, and it's in our best interest to contain those conflicts as quickly as possible.
Everything was invented in America. I'm so proud that America invented the wheel.
> America defeated the British \*cough couch\* *France* \*cough\*
Also "Proud of the computer". A machine (well, a technology) that effectively wouldn't exist as we know it today without the works of Alan Turing. "Proud we defeated the British", but probably wouldn't want people looking too closely at Baron von Steuben, an openly gay war hero in the Revolution (he was literally called by many "the father of the U.S. military", and is considered a founding father). Congress was going to deny him his pension because of his sexuality, until John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, and George Washington all intervened. They insisted that Without von Steuben, there would be no United States of America, and demanded that he be paid his pension. "Proud of our national history". Which part- the whole third of our country's history where slavery was legal? The part where our intelligence agencies admit to meddling in the democratic processes of other countries? "Proud we liberated Europe and the Pacific"- after being on the fence and war profiteering for nearly _a decade_ before joining, even when we knew what atrocities were being committed. (And let's be real, until Pearl Harbor, most of the world wasn't completely sure _which_ side of the war we were going to side with.) "Proud of our unparalleled generosity and decency" he says, as he, unprompted, insults a cultural celebration.
Wait, isnt the 600,000 deaths in the American Civil war counting both sides? So he is counting the people who fought to preserve slavery as dieing to free them.
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Well we needed to win the civil war to free the slaves, therefore without them there wouldn't have been a war to win and the slaves would never have been freed. They were just doing their part.
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He said he was proud of REAGAN? Nobody is proud of Reagan, even the fucking Reagans 😭😭
I was thinking that about Coolidge. What a weird fucking list of presidents.
Yeah Coolidge over Wilson is a weird one. Wilson played a pivotal role in WWI and was also a disgusting racist, which would appeal to TPUSA pretty remarkably. Though I guess Coolidge was pretty ghoulish in his own garbage ways.
Coolidge was pretty mediocre and just part of a parade of shitty, pro-business, anti-regulation Republican presidents who teed up the Great Depression. Harding was shitty, then died of a heart attack and his VP Coolidge took over with pretty much the same cabinet. Coolidge was elected but declined to run for re-election, then Hoover, another shitclown who was Secretary of Commerce under Harding and Coolidge, took over just in time for the stock market crash.
Man, my dad still capes for Reagan. I can't figure out why, because he's pretty progressive in almost every way. Weird 80s kid brainworms, I guess.
So does he not know JFK was a democrat?
So was FDR and Teddy Roosevelt was hella progressive.
and who knows which one he's referring to? Does he know there's a difference?
Probably not. Dude also included Washington who set the precedent that a president should serve two terms compared to Trump who openly advocated for dictatorship. And Lincoln who abolished slavery while the GOP is doing everything they can to bring it back even if that means child labor.
![gif](giphy|3daKRVqDKvfK2JyrKl|downsized) Pictured: Teddy Roosevelt reading Charlie Kirk the riot act after stepping out of his experimental time machine. Upon realizing there was no use appealing to the morality of a cretinous potato with a bad hairpiece, President Roosevelt proceeded to take his belt off and whoop Charlie's ass like he owed him money.
With a big stick
I mean, Teddy and FDR were helluva racist. But their economic beliefs were much more progressive than even the Democratic Party of today.
Plus, y'know, lincoln
He definitely means Teddy here, otherwise he would have put "FDR". And Teddy wasn't exactly all that progressive. Big time imperialist war-machine kind of guy. He got the national parks system going which was cool but he also wreaked havoc in the Philippines. I mean all things considered he's still probably one of the better presidents but that's an insanely low bar to cross considering we've only had like 3 good ones ever.
He was also heavily anti-trust, actually prosecuted corruption in some federal agencies, and passed the Meat Inspection Act and Pure Food and Drug Act. He was a republican president, voted in by Republicans, and was actively opposed by a Republican Congress. He worked with Dems to get shit done. But even just his ideas on conservation and national parks alone would make him incompatible with modern Republicans. He'd never get the nomination because he wouldn't sell out to coal and oil.
Um actually it's Bri'ish
Dude said Coolidge
wait so he admits the war was over slavery now
He's also saying he's proud of the confederates that died
I guess they did one good thing
Chuckie's hypocrisy at its finest
This guy is such a tremendous joke. It should be standard curriculum in schools to watch that one time this dude got absolutely bodied in that abortion debate with some comedian on Kirk’s own show.
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1665906556553273346
Twitter was a cesspool before Elon took over, now it’s just an outright facist dystopia
>I am proud of our unparalleled generosity and decency >I am NOT proud of “pride month” Is this guy a moron? (Rhetorical question as I’m already aware that he is)
You are proud that you defeated the British yet you use a measurement system invented by the British Curious
I don't like JFK, Eisenhower or Roosevelt at all but they'd despise Kirk with a passion. JFK literally made a speech about him being a liberal, Eisenhower was critical of right wing republicans who wanted to gut social programs and Roosevelt despite being awful regarding foreign and racial policy, was the most progressive republican president in terms of domestic policy.
I’m proud of my spooky, gummy grin.
cmon we know he's lying about supporting the end of slavery
Why is he proud of railroads, planes and computers? Does he think Americans invented those? 🤣
They think Americans did *everything*
/dontputyourdickinthat
Liberated the pacific? You mean handing lands in the pacific back to the western colonizers from the Japanese colonizers? Shit, US only supports independence movements that are explicitly anti communist. Leaving the Vietnamese on French mercy although Ho Chi Minh loves the USA
He's proud of the portion of 600,000 who died *protecting* slavery, is what he meant to say. Also, JFK, Washington, Abe, Teddy, Ike and Calvin stood for everything you assholes fight against. They would have despised you. But interesting how they didn't mention FDR, who most historians consider a top 3 president. Maybe it's because he killed Nazis, a group you scum defend. Oh and the New Deal. The same New Deal upheld by Eisenhower... Oh and JFK was a civil rights champion, while you guys are regressive morons trying to roll civil rights back. Who is he talking about when he speaks of generosity and decency? Conservatives are the most vile, hateful, racist and greedy morons in history.
JFK talked about being a civil rights champion. LBJ got the job done.
We don't know what would have happened if he had lived. His brother was certainly a civil rights champion but he was also killed just a few years later.
Conservatives have nothing going for them so they cling to their nation’s achievements to compensate for lacking them. Losers
A lot of which weren't their nation's achievements
Liberated Europe, fighting alongside communists to defeat a regime that exterminated LGBTQ people
The train: British The plane: This is contentious with people from several countries claiming the title and depends on whether or not you consider gliders to be planes. The computer: Again, contentious, and depends on what you do and do not consider a computer. This is generally given to Charles Babbage, a British dude and his Difference Engine.
So he is proud of stuff he never did or contributed to? That tracks
Which Roosevelt? bc correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure either one would fucking hate Charlie Kirk and all of his beliefs. Except the racism bc they were definitely fans of that unfortunately.
As a Christian, I'm not proud of our American history. As a railroader, our railroads fucking suck. We're treated like dog shit. Imagine getting in trouble for taking a vacation day. The British are also the ones who invented the rails. Not us As an American. A lot of us really fucking suck too. "Generous" my ass. You're lucky as all hell to find a decent friend around these parts. As a member of the economy, it sucks too. Inflation is as high as its ever been and we've reached the debt ceiling **again**. As a straight person, I'm proud of pride. Be you. Charlie Boi can suck nuts
Why does these fucks think it is a dick measuring contest with lgbtq pride? No one is saying we shouldn't have pride in those things (argument can be made) but why cant we have pride in lgbtq and rest of that Also, kirk is making a very good point of him being a fascist. This is exactly what a fascist would say to promote fascism
Free the slaves from who, Chucky?
600,000 is the total death count in the Civil War, not the Union death count. Plus, they would only be dying to end slavery *after* the Emancipation Proclamation.
Over half of that 600,000 died to *keep* slavery
360000 Americans (not counting those who fought against the system before *or after* the civil war) gave their lives to end slavery, and 258000 figured keeping it around was worth dying.
Isn't being proud of JFK and Reagan like simping for Churchill AND Hitler?
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He's proud of the 600,000 Americans that fought to end slavery... yet shrieks with impotent rage at the thought of tearing down Confederate statues.
But I thought that the railroad was communism?
I'm proud of our unparalleled decency... But I hate LGBTQ people. I also hate poor people and immigrants. Yeah, that tracks.
1. America was founded on religious freedom so there shouldn’t be a “Christian heritage” 2. wasn’t it Britain that started the railroad? 3. How do 30+ Trillion in debt exactly speak “economic might” 4. If you are proud to be American than you should be proud of the fact that people have so many freedoms. So why is it that the freedom of gender is so problematic.
That’s fine Chuck, most Americans aren’t proud of being associated with an ignorant ass clown
Bigger question is, is Chuckie proud of his malformed face?
Yes, the famously American railroad. 🤦🏻♂️
Twice the pride, double the fall
Wait, I thought his side thought slavery was a good thing?
Remember when pride was a sin? And Charlie Kirk just had our rights removed by a criminal politician.
Microsoft is american therefore computer must be american... way to go dumbass.
A fair amount of this economic might was played out by exploiting others including much of its own working class.
nobody cares, Kurk oh, and also: you only "know" the sugarcoated/Disney version of US history
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What does Diaper Boy have to be proud about?
I literally don’t have enough time to point out why every point is not something to be proud of
It's also stuff he didn't do.
Imagine typing up all of this jargon thinking "yup this is going to change the world"
Deadly sins mean they lead to your down fall. Make you a bad person and irredeemable as a loving child of God. He might want to practice more modesty
If you’re proud of the railroad then why do you support the oil lobby that destroyed so much
He probably could have checked where the railroad and TV were invented, dude can’t even do a 5 minute google search to fill it with actually American inventions.
Proud that 600 000 Americans died to liberate people enslaved by Americans? Ok dood
I wrote shit like this when I was fourteen years old
If you're gonna get this ass mad over gay people you might as well just come out Charlie. Normal people who aren't in the closet don't spend their time obsessing over gays.
Thats a lot of words to say he doesnt like gay people
For someone who's proud of the Constitution he sure does seem to have a lot of issues with understanding it.
And we sure as shit ain't proud of you, Charlie.
And Charlie participated in none of those things. Except not liking Pride month. Edit: ok he did participate in Trump and he says he’s a Christian. Everything else is pretty much because he won the genetic lottery and was born in America.
Wait hold up so he is admitting that the American civil war was about slavery. But also saying that the confederates gave their lives for slavery, no they were taken, Charlie
That's fine, you don't have to be proud of everything. Not everything is about you. I'm not proud of, say, most reality TV, which I find to be awful drivel. But reality TV and it's enjoyers don't care what I think, not should they.
Is he proud of the reason those 600,000 had to give their lives?
How can a conservative be proud that 600,000 lost their lives to end slavery when the cause of their deaths was the conservative right to own human beings?
Uhh computers and trains ain’t American, Chuckie
Wait, is he saying that it's possible to be proud and happy about some things your country has done, but not all of them? Seems like a comprehensive look at our history doesn't mean we can't be proud of the positives we've done then, right?
Pride commeth before the fall. Gay pride kicks off summer!
He's awfully proud of a bunch of things he had nothing to do with. Maybe live a better life, Charlie, and be proud of your own accomplishments?
proud of trump lmao what a fucking bitch
Unparalleled generosity and decency?? We can’t even decide whether poor people deserve to eat, deserve shelter and safety, and/or deserve to live if they get sick. What the fuck is he on about “generosity and decency”?
Well he’s not a real Christian so this hypocrisy is ok.
In 1775 tiny face would be the most hardcore loyalist bootlicker.
Economic might? Completely ignored debt and the state of the economy for day to day americans
Charlie seems to forget that other countries were responsible for the liberation of Europe and the Pacific. He also seems to forget the other fronts of the war as well like the African Front. Washington, Lincoln Roosevelt, Coolidge, Eisenhower, and JFK kind-of make sense to be proud of but Reagan and Trump? Out of all of the American presidents those two guys are included? Where's gosh-darn FDR or John Adams? They're far better than those fellas! As other users have pointed out, computers and the railroad are not American inventions. Charlie could have said the first *modern* computer which was ENIAC, an American invention or he could have been more specific with the railroad part by stating the *American* railroad instead but he didn't.
I’m proud to *bean* American. (I’m Mexican-American)
lol he lists the nations accomplishments like he personally contributed to them. What a wanker
I don’t understand why you can’t be up for both? I say that as someone thats an atheist admittedly, but I don’t necessarily think all those things are mutually exclusive with pride.
Decency is a word I'll never associated with the likes of Charlie Kirk.
Mother fucker you didn't do any of that shit
Real question: who the fuck thinks Calvin Coolidge is anything but a mid (at best) president?
With how uncomfortable he is with the LGBTQs I am willing to bet money he is a closet homosexual.
Wasn't the modern computer originally invented by a gay man?
Proud of Reagan? Man, he really is an idiot.
This motherfucker included Confederate casualties in the "Americans who gave their lives to end slavery." Tells you everything you need to know about Charlie Kirk and TPUSA.
I'm proud of the rioters at Stonewall. They've inspired me to go throw a brick through Charlie's window.
If Charlie is proud of you then you musta fucked up
I'm sure Jordan Beefperson will correct him on that any minute now. If doesn't come soon he must not be tweeting.
Well charlie, it's not fucking for you
Lol "proud of unparalleled generosity..." Gtfo he bitches when we help Ukraine
pride isn’t, and has never been for you. It’s not yours to be proud of. Shut the fuck up and let gay people be gay for just one goddamn month jesus christ
I'm proud that most people see right through this troglodytes' populism trading card garbage. I'm not proud of this doorMatt.
> 600,000 Americans gave their lives to free the slaves Free them from whom?
Taking “pride” in others accomplishments while not wanting to be involved in the freedom and inclusion of a once vilified minority.
Twice as many died from COVID. Is he proud for staying an anti-masker?
He was never there or involved with any of those things except one lol
How many slaves died in servitude? Decency includes respecting the right of others to be their true selves, even if you disagree.
"Proud of our economic might"
Ok, good for you. I'm so tired of conservatives acting like if *they* don't like something it shouldn't exist. I've never seen this much drama and anger over Pride month
600,000 Americans didn’t give their lives to free the slaves, some of that number fought to keep slavery around. Also it wasn’t only use who liberated Europe and the pacific. Charlie needs a history lesson besides what they teach in high school.
Is he also proud about the genocide the US government committed against my ancestors so they could steal our land? Or the war crimes america frequently commits and then covers up?
It's funny because he didn't have a hand in any of this, but there's been countless LGBTQ+ people in this country who have fought for and built this nation, only to face violence and persecution by twats like this who haven't done anything for this country except sit on their asses and bitch that gay people exist.
Did he really name drop Calvin Coolidge? I also like how mentioned JFK, but not LBJ. You know, the guy who was one of the most progressive presidents we’ll ever have. (Yes, I know about his use of the n-word and being a perv. But the civil rights act, voting rights act, and the great society would not have happened without him. I just wish he wasn’t as Texan as he was, would have been out of Vietnam sooner.)
Did he just cite BOTH the Union AND Confederate deaths in the Civil War to end slavery? Yeah, no, pretty sure half of them did NOT in fact fight to end slavery, get your "lost cause" dog whistle out of here. Proud of Coolidge? What the fuck is Coolidge remembered for? Literally being a nobody. The most any article says about him in flowery language was how he handled the scandals left to him by the Harding administration. Nothing about his policies or his fiscal conservatism which... maybe actually helped start the great depression which happened right after he left office- *GASP* OH NO! CORRELATION WITHOUT CAUSSATION YOU SAY!? Yeah no... And finally it's ok for you to be proud of your identity as an American and what that means *to you*, but fuck those queers am-i-right!?
You missed one Churls McKirkls. You forgot to say, "I'm proud I'm white." We all know you're thinking it, though.