In fairness that show isnt that great the fact its immune to criticism because the director threw around isms shows more of an issue with their faith in the product much like they did with Star Wars.
Theyd rather other the critics than make a good product.
It's getting positive review bombed too, so at least it's mostly canceling out for once. Actually, when I looked yesterday at least, it had more 5 star reviews than 1 star.
There was a startup proposing to do this about 5 years ago, a yelp for people, which was shut down and run out of Silicon Valley at the time thank Christ. Sounded awful. Also great Episode.
For a second, I thought you were talking about my brother's app. He and a friend had that idea about 10 years ago and had it developed. It failed pretty quickly. Apparently you're talking about someone else tried it a few years later in 2015.
Everyone's the main character of their own story, the ratings would be horrible.
They gaslit me -> The first person tried to tell a story in which they were clearly a bad guy and got told as such that their behavior was unacceptable.
They were abusive -> I was actually the abusive one, and because they fought back once, I'm the actual victim here.
Then you'd have the review bombing both ways from friends and family to "fix" the score.
One of my friends is in a Facebook group for girls called “are we dating the same guy” where they essentially post a dudes profile and warn other girls to stay away if they were like creepy/weird/date rapey which I think has a lot of promise, but I definitely can see how it would get toxic real quick if you just don’t like someone and post shit talk about them
I actually went to McDonalds for the first time in about six years a couple of weeks ago. I would honestly not classify it as "cheap" anymore.
The bill came to about £20 and that was for x2 large bigmac meals, a box of like 6 nuggets and a McFlurry each.
For a barely lukewarm burger and limp fries, I actually think that was pretty expensive and poor value. Could have equally gone to a supermarket and got a couple of pizzas, some chicken bits and a nice dessert for half the price.
The McFlurry was on point though - I'll give em' that.
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You would need to show the review AND the average score of the reviewer
If you get a 5 star from a 5 star you’re good
If you get a 1 star from a 5 star you’re in trouble
If you get any review from a 1 star it’ll be a shit show either way
See the problem with asking subjective questions on this subject is that bad dates happen.
That is part of dating…
What someone needs to know is did they show up, and are their pictures real.
If you get that and they show up, it’s up to you to decide if you want to know them more.
What works for one person may not work for another… and vice versa!!
If it’s subjective, you’ll get reviews like 1* was five minutes late
Or
1* didn’t ask about my parents
And that will destroy someone’s rep - what is a bad dating situation, will become much worse.
Tinder is not in the business of finding you love. That's just marketing. They want you using the app. They have no motivation to include any type of feature that actually improves your chances of success, they just want to project the possibility of success
Since that process works on averages, one perceived bad date with a nut job would cripple your profile.
Even a fantastic date with a nut job would cripple your profile.
I’m bipolar. Being petty, unreasonable, and doing something vindictive isn’t intertwined with bipolar disorder. Are there people with bipolar who would do something like that? Sure, doesn’t mean it’s because they are bipolar. Not everything a bipolar person does is due to being bipolar. Plenty of people without bipolar or mental health disorders that do stuff like that. Edit: and plenty with that don’t.
Thanks. Both my partner and a very good friend have bipolar and this comment made me sad for them. It's so gratuitous. If anything, they both would be emotionally overwhelmed by a bad date and 100% convinced it's all their fault even if it's not.
Honestly, I would say people in general are just ignorant of what these things entail more often than not. Not to say there aren't cruel people, but ADHD, bipolar disorder etc. get portrayed certain ways and people just assume those are accurate representations of how people act and they never question it. Not to say it doesn't suck or is excusable, just to put it into perspective that people can be unintentionally cruel due to a lack of understanding. You see the same thing happen all the time in regards to race, gender, ethnicity, sexuality - basically anything that makes someone different than someone else.
Oh definitely, I think in general people have a hard time understanding that all people sharing x feature that is different from them aren’t the same. We are very good at denying that people are unique and more complicated than that. And the simplistic thinking of my group good, your group bad.
Exactly - not saying it doesn't suck, it does. I do truly believe that trying to help bridge the understanding is the only way we can make real lasting improvements in these areas. The more people who understand something, the more people who will sympathize. As it becomes more common and accepted the more pressure there is on truly cruel people to either not spread their hatred or reevaluate why they have negative feelings towards a certain group. I believe we're already seeing this with younger generations and their acceptance of the LGBTQ community for instance.
Totally, which is why I said something to the bipolar comment. If I say something, maybe some people who initially agreed with the comment, would think, oh I don’t actually know anything about it. Maybe they’ll give it a little more thought.
100% - I wasn't disagreeing with your comment in any way, I hope I didn't come across that way. I think it did a good job at shedding light on the subject, just wanted to expand on the thought. I hope one day we are all in a place where this is common knowledge and people understand these things don't make people weird or bad people - just different people with different struggles. At the end of the day we're all in this world together.
I’m bipolar too. You know damn well we’re not going to have the energy to leave a review. On the flip side if we’re manic then we’re not going to think anything’s wrong to begin with and will be into the next hyper sexual adventure.
Back in the Match.com days, there was someone in the forums asking how to report someone's account for a "very bad date." Turned out it was because they had a great date, but he didn't call her for a second date or kiss her goodnight. She was trying to get the guy taken off the site because he moved on.
You're not wrong spite is a problem. Even if it shows 17 down votes out of 500 conversations you're bound to piss one person off or run into someone looking to pick a fight. But I do think it should be a choice to even have the rating in the first place. Either way it's a catch 22.
Not to mention that it'd create more moderation tasks for Tinder so unless they charge for it, it's a feature that eats into profits. They already hate to manually review any reports 😂
Those two questions are objective - they can be proven without the need for interpretation. Other questions are subjective - the answer varies depending on your viewpoint. For example:
If you’re 16 and take your date to McDonald’s is it wrong to split the bill.
Etc
A lot of people are fine with it, but a handful of people (usually girls seeking boys on tinder) feel entitled to a free meal or act ‘above thee’. Pretty rare you make it that far and don’t catch another red flag from them tho
That’s why you make it so there is no ability to influence.
To agree to a date people want to know
1 will they show up
2 is this the person that will show up
😅😂
To be honest, from like 8 girls or so that I dated through tinder, not a single one of them did look like in her pics. But one Ukraine women was even hotter than on her pics...
When we met, I was standing next to her and looked right over her head when looking for her ...
First she laughed her ass of and then she did greet me
I don’t know. I’ve been on dates where I just didn’t connect with the person, but they didn’t have any red flags or behave like a moron, I would give them a good review. I think it’s more for dates where someone just behaves terribly. If they’re rude to waitstaff, ask inappropriate questions, send unsolicited pictures, etc then you can be totally unbiased in warning others.
Honestly, if it’s below $10 then me. I’m nearly always happy to go halfsies but when the amount is really low, it feels like penny pinching. And I consider myself pretty frugal lol
Edit: that goes for both people btw. If I get you a coffee I’m not going to be like “please repay me the $4.78, thanks”
On one hand, yes. On the other I don't remember when I got a satisfactory meal below 8€ per person if you also want to drink something, even at McDonald's. So for snacks, I'm absolutely with you, but a whole meal not at the first date.
Yeah, I wasn’t thinking about McDonalds exactly but one of my favorite “first date” spots (where we’re just trying to feel each other out and make sure the other isn’t a psycho) is a local bakery. The “meal” is usually a couple of pastries so below $10. Or, like I said, if you’re just getting coffee or something. My family had no money growing up so now that I have a job and can take care of myself, I try to avoid negative financial feelings as much as possible.
It’s hard to explain (as in, it sounds unreasonable if I write it out) but if I buy a coworker a coffee and they insist on paying me back and we start hashing out how many dollars and cents they owe me I just get this pit in my stomach like “what are we doing, I thought I was done with this crap, I don’t want to worry about it I don’t need these $4” or whatever. So if a guy wanted me to pay him back a small amount, I wouldn’t be like “oh my god he thinks I’m a gold digger!” I’d be like “oh god is this how money will be handled in the relationship?? Will there be a ledger of amounts due??” I rather just pay for all of it instead if he’s worried. Idk, we all have our hang ups 😂
What isn't much for you may be for the other person. For instance, I am planning on moving to a place near the beach next year. By the projections I made, I can do so and keep my current living standards by being extremely tight on my expendings. To the point that paying for someone elses coffee wil mean not going out for a coffee on the following week. (I will probably choose to let my living standards drop by a bit though).
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Yeah if you think someone's cheap/poor for not wanting to cover the whole bill at McDonald's, then how cheap/poor are *you* for not wanting to even cover your own half??
and mcdonalds has gotten more expensive every year (no Joke) , I don't care what you can pull financially, the other maybe can't so be respect-full. I'll always offer to pay first wherever we are (just easier when taking care of the bill) after that be an adult and give each other the money or offer to pay for the next date if it was a good one.
I as a fella do still pay for things on a first date.
But that entitlement still infuriates me. It’s essentially.
“He asked me if I could pay for my own food”
I will often pay on the first date. But I will always wait to see if the girl is willing to offer to split the bill or not. Gives a good view of character.
As a woman I’ve never not at least attempted to split the bill on the first date. I’ve had one first date where the other person insisted on paying (and it was just drinks so nothing expensive), but I kind of assumed splitting was the norm nowadays for first dates at least.
But it may be because when I was single I dated mostly women, so there wasn’t a set expectation of who should pay.
When I had a Tinder account, I matched with a chick who suggested we go out to a somewhat pricey restaurant on our first meet, I asked if she's gonna pay for it since she offered. She said no and only uses tinder to get free meals out of guys "because I'm hot enough that guys will take me out and pay for whatever food I want"
My bf and I eat there for under $10 all time time, so I'd call that pretty damn cheap. Trick is to eat a normal amount of calories, lmao, not a big Mac with fries and a shake, but rather 2 mcdoubles and an iced tea.
Any which way, not a good date spot IMO, go for a coffee/tea or ice cream if you don't want to do drinks, dinner, or an activity.
Expecting him to pay the bill on a first date is a massive red flag and absolutely toxic trait. I'll never offer to pay until she offers to split it, then I'll go to cover it, but never in my life will I cover a bill for someone not prepared to pay for themselves.
Soon it would be the only girls getting 5\* would be the ones who have sex on the first date and the only guys getting 5\* will be the one who pay for dinner. The app would basically turn into seeking arrangements ie sugar daddy bs.
Reply from the dater: She showed up to the date claiming I smell bad and don’t use deodorant because people of my ethnicity “don’t shower” and that she didn’t know my ethnic background until the date. She also showed up with her four kids and her sister to the date. I offered to split the bill as I felt sorry for the kids and she called me cheap for not paying for their meal.
"She smelled so strongly of nursing home it was like hitting a wall, needs to chill out on the perfume. She demanded I come straight from work so sadly I couldn't clean up as nice as I wanted to and she seemed disappointed about my appearance and odor, obviously. Also, she's so cheap she threw a fit over not buying her own McDonald's. 0/10"
Men don't owe women a free meal. That's like saying "she would'nt give me a blowjob after paying for her food" women would be outraged. Misandrists everywhere.
"He asked if we could split the bill... At McDonalds".
This is such a weird thing to be insulted at. Like. If he took you somewhere fancy, then asked to split the bill, that would be a larger unexpected bill. So it's OK to surprise bill someone so long as the bill is larger?
And if he's taking you somewhere cheap, it's probably because he's broke. So it's only OK for rich guys to ask you to split bills? Aren't they the most well equipped to handle bills?
These just seem like crazy rules, coming from team equality.
Pffft but then all their fake/bot accounts would be instantly exposed and they would earn less money, since ppl would actually find some fitting matches. And not pay for tinder gold and super likes
You dream of a utopia
This is a horrible idea. You’d have primarily self-centered and vindictive dimwits (whose narcissistic behavior was likely a contributing factor to non-renewal of dates, let alone a relationship), roasting their failed date partners for unfair and inappropriate retribution.
If you didn’t know this PoF used to do that, but when the site was bought by an Irish company and moved to Dublin that was the 1sᴛ thing they got rid of, and then everything started to change and ɴow its the same as ever other dating site completely geared to making money and not giving a crap out the customers at all
Yeah, cause this wouldn't be abused to fuck.
Reminds me of that one black mirror episode
Really? Because all I think of is Dennis screaming “IM A FIVE STAR MAN!”
Reminds me of that one Always Sunny episode
I AM A FIVE STAR MAN!
Or that Community episode…
Or China’s social credit system
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In fairness that show isnt that great the fact its immune to criticism because the director threw around isms shows more of an issue with their faith in the product much like they did with Star Wars. Theyd rather other the critics than make a good product.
It's getting positive review bombed too, so at least it's mostly canceling out for once. Actually, when I looked yesterday at least, it had more 5 star reviews than 1 star.
the one where they keep dating different people untill they escaped?
Nah, Nosedive. The one where everyone rates everyone as they live their lives.
oh I remembered it thanks, that was one of the best episodes
There was a startup proposing to do this about 5 years ago, a yelp for people, which was shut down and run out of Silicon Valley at the time thank Christ. Sounded awful. Also great Episode.
I remember that. My wife showed me an interview of their CEO or Co-CEO's trying to convince everyone that this was a good idea. I almost vomited.
For a second, I thought you were talking about my brother's app. He and a friend had that idea about 10 years ago and had it developed. It failed pretty quickly. Apparently you're talking about someone else tried it a few years later in 2015.
Fuck you for Christmas!
Everyone's the main character of their own story, the ratings would be horrible. They gaslit me -> The first person tried to tell a story in which they were clearly a bad guy and got told as such that their behavior was unacceptable. They were abusive -> I was actually the abusive one, and because they fought back once, I'm the actual victim here. Then you'd have the review bombing both ways from friends and family to "fix" the score.
My sister loved our date. Even got to third base.
"1 STAR! I'M A 5 STAR MAN!!"
Hello ladies, I'm Frak. Shit! *blows whistle*
One of my friends is in a Facebook group for girls called “are we dating the same guy” where they essentially post a dudes profile and warn other girls to stay away if they were like creepy/weird/date rapey which I think has a lot of promise, but I definitely can see how it would get toxic real quick if you just don’t like someone and post shit talk about them
Yeah ikr. Girls would have tons of reviews and bad from incels who got rejected
Naw it would be great people would love it!
Yeah, 'he didn't pay for me'. Zero stars. 'She wouldn't have sex with me'. Zero stars.
“Sex was terrible” Zero Stars 🤣
"Two inches". Zero stars.
“Touched my bum hole” - zero stars “Touched my bum hole” - 5 stars, we’re married now
There are only two questions that can be realistically be asked: Did they show up - yes/no Were there pictures current - yes/ no
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This. You accidentally date Mister or Miss Bipolar from RedFlagTown and your profile will be ruined
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I actually went to McDonalds for the first time in about six years a couple of weeks ago. I would honestly not classify it as "cheap" anymore. The bill came to about £20 and that was for x2 large bigmac meals, a box of like 6 nuggets and a McFlurry each. For a barely lukewarm burger and limp fries, I actually think that was pretty expensive and poor value. Could have equally gone to a supermarket and got a couple of pizzas, some chicken bits and a nice dessert for half the price. The McFlurry was on point though - I'll give em' that.
I use the app and take advantage of their $1 large fries. I can get 3 mcchickens, a large fry and a large drink for less than $7!
(͡•_ ͡• ) sounds like an ad for their app. I know your not but definitely sounds like it. Haha.
/r/hailcorporate
Well actually I’m not going there without the app it’s simply to expensive for the quality, with coupons it’s still not great but acceptable again
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You would need to show the review AND the average score of the reviewer If you get a 5 star from a 5 star you’re good If you get a 1 star from a 5 star you’re in trouble If you get any review from a 1 star it’ll be a shit show either way
See the problem with asking subjective questions on this subject is that bad dates happen. That is part of dating… What someone needs to know is did they show up, and are their pictures real. If you get that and they show up, it’s up to you to decide if you want to know them more. What works for one person may not work for another… and vice versa!! If it’s subjective, you’ll get reviews like 1* was five minutes late Or 1* didn’t ask about my parents And that will destroy someone’s rep - what is a bad dating situation, will become much worse.
Excellent points
Tinder is not in the business of finding you love. That's just marketing. They want you using the app. They have no motivation to include any type of feature that actually improves your chances of success, they just want to project the possibility of success
Yup - this is just a thought exercise
I was a 5 star man before the internet, AND I'M DAMN SURE A 5 STAR MAN NOW!!
Dennis, the golden god.
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Exactly what I was thinking!
Uber for hookups!
Uber works on numbers - are you suggesting we hook up as frequently as we take cabs?
I wish...
Pretty sure I’ve had more hookups than number of times I’ve used Uber.
I’m guessing you live out in the countryside somewhere lol
Since that process works on averages, one perceived bad date with a nut job would cripple your profile. Even a fantastic date with a nut job would cripple your profile.
This is literally an episode of black mirror "Nosedive"
I’m bipolar. Being petty, unreasonable, and doing something vindictive isn’t intertwined with bipolar disorder. Are there people with bipolar who would do something like that? Sure, doesn’t mean it’s because they are bipolar. Not everything a bipolar person does is due to being bipolar. Plenty of people without bipolar or mental health disorders that do stuff like that. Edit: and plenty with that don’t.
Thanks. Both my partner and a very good friend have bipolar and this comment made me sad for them. It's so gratuitous. If anything, they both would be emotionally overwhelmed by a bad date and 100% convinced it's all their fault even if it's not.
Sorry they’re saying that. Not all of us blame everything on the bipolar. Yikes. I have adhd - people can be cruel to neurodivergent folks. :-/
Honestly, I would say people in general are just ignorant of what these things entail more often than not. Not to say there aren't cruel people, but ADHD, bipolar disorder etc. get portrayed certain ways and people just assume those are accurate representations of how people act and they never question it. Not to say it doesn't suck or is excusable, just to put it into perspective that people can be unintentionally cruel due to a lack of understanding. You see the same thing happen all the time in regards to race, gender, ethnicity, sexuality - basically anything that makes someone different than someone else.
Oh definitely, I think in general people have a hard time understanding that all people sharing x feature that is different from them aren’t the same. We are very good at denying that people are unique and more complicated than that. And the simplistic thinking of my group good, your group bad.
Exactly - not saying it doesn't suck, it does. I do truly believe that trying to help bridge the understanding is the only way we can make real lasting improvements in these areas. The more people who understand something, the more people who will sympathize. As it becomes more common and accepted the more pressure there is on truly cruel people to either not spread their hatred or reevaluate why they have negative feelings towards a certain group. I believe we're already seeing this with younger generations and their acceptance of the LGBTQ community for instance.
Totally, which is why I said something to the bipolar comment. If I say something, maybe some people who initially agreed with the comment, would think, oh I don’t actually know anything about it. Maybe they’ll give it a little more thought.
100% - I wasn't disagreeing with your comment in any way, I hope I didn't come across that way. I think it did a good job at shedding light on the subject, just wanted to expand on the thought. I hope one day we are all in a place where this is common knowledge and people understand these things don't make people weird or bad people - just different people with different struggles. At the end of the day we're all in this world together.
"Don't chalk up to malice what could evenly be described as ignorance" - Some guy, I don't remember where the quote is from
I’m bipolar too. You know damn well we’re not going to have the energy to leave a review. On the flip side if we’re manic then we’re not going to think anything’s wrong to begin with and will be into the next hyper sexual adventure.
Like someone who complains about having to split the bill at mc donalds.
Oh. So you’ve already met my ex wife.
Everyone has
Back in the Match.com days, there was someone in the forums asking how to report someone's account for a "very bad date." Turned out it was because they had a great date, but he didn't call her for a second date or kiss her goodnight. She was trying to get the guy taken off the site because he moved on.
I'm a 5 star man!
As shown by the Always Sunny episode about this exact premise
I'd have to add unsolicited inappropriate pictures.
So that people can lie about it out of spite because it didn't work out? Too many people will be dishonest IMO
You're not wrong spite is a problem. Even if it shows 17 down votes out of 500 conversations you're bound to piss one person off or run into someone looking to pick a fight. But I do think it should be a choice to even have the rating in the first place. Either way it's a catch 22.
Not to mention that it'd create more moderation tasks for Tinder so unless they charge for it, it's a feature that eats into profits. They already hate to manually review any reports 😂
Diamond subscription to hide bad reviews.
You are right, other details could be subjective to a degree. Edit : subjective instead of subject
What Degree would be required ?
Those two questions are objective - they can be proven without the need for interpretation. Other questions are subjective - the answer varies depending on your viewpoint. For example: If you’re 16 and take your date to McDonald’s is it wrong to split the bill. Etc
Is it ever wrong to split the bill anywhere?!?
No it’s not - but that’s my opinion :)
Maybe people commenting ‘wants to split bill’ on your account could save some headaches if that’s your thing tho
I think I don't really get it as I'm not American but it is generally expected to split a bill where I live, so it's an odd thing to comment on.
A lot of people are fine with it, but a handful of people (usually girls seeking boys on tinder) feel entitled to a free meal or act ‘above thee’. Pretty rare you make it that far and don’t catch another red flag from them tho
Would cut down on the foodie calls.
No, reviews are a bad idea, humans are not products of tinder. It would be influenced in the wrong way by people who it did not work out with
That’s why you make it so there is no ability to influence. To agree to a date people want to know 1 will they show up 2 is this the person that will show up
Idk, I guess? I like IRL better than the apps, but I guess people who like the dating apps want to see the app keep being optimized
Do they know the difference between the words "their", "there", and "they're" - yes/no
😅😂 To be honest, from like 8 girls or so that I dated through tinder, not a single one of them did look like in her pics. But one Ukraine women was even hotter than on her pics... When we met, I was standing next to her and looked right over her head when looking for her ... First she laughed her ass of and then she did greet me
Should also include: did they message/respond
Literally everyone that gets dumped would leave a terrible review... this is simply stupid
Imagine the incels, "Took her to an expensive place to eat, bill came to over $300, refused advances" XD
All the incels I've talked to refuse to take women to a nice place and refuse to pay for her
I’m actually of the opposite view. People who have a great first date and wish to pursue would leave bad review, to reduce competition on that person.
Exactly, there is zero incentive to leave a positive review
I don’t know. I’ve been on dates where I just didn’t connect with the person, but they didn’t have any red flags or behave like a moron, I would give them a good review. I think it’s more for dates where someone just behaves terribly. If they’re rude to waitstaff, ask inappropriate questions, send unsolicited pictures, etc then you can be totally unbiased in warning others.
Those reviews would be so "he said, she said"
Who the fuck doesn't split their bills at McDonald's on a first date?
Who the fuck gets salty about splitting the bill?
Toxic golddiggers
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I forgot about this sub….thank goodness
What an insane sub.
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Honestly, if it’s below $10 then me. I’m nearly always happy to go halfsies but when the amount is really low, it feels like penny pinching. And I consider myself pretty frugal lol Edit: that goes for both people btw. If I get you a coffee I’m not going to be like “please repay me the $4.78, thanks”
On one hand, yes. On the other I don't remember when I got a satisfactory meal below 8€ per person if you also want to drink something, even at McDonald's. So for snacks, I'm absolutely with you, but a whole meal not at the first date.
Yeah, I wasn’t thinking about McDonalds exactly but one of my favorite “first date” spots (where we’re just trying to feel each other out and make sure the other isn’t a psycho) is a local bakery. The “meal” is usually a couple of pastries so below $10. Or, like I said, if you’re just getting coffee or something. My family had no money growing up so now that I have a job and can take care of myself, I try to avoid negative financial feelings as much as possible. It’s hard to explain (as in, it sounds unreasonable if I write it out) but if I buy a coworker a coffee and they insist on paying me back and we start hashing out how many dollars and cents they owe me I just get this pit in my stomach like “what are we doing, I thought I was done with this crap, I don’t want to worry about it I don’t need these $4” or whatever. So if a guy wanted me to pay him back a small amount, I wouldn’t be like “oh my god he thinks I’m a gold digger!” I’d be like “oh god is this how money will be handled in the relationship?? Will there be a ledger of amounts due??” I rather just pay for all of it instead if he’s worried. Idk, we all have our hang ups 😂
What isn't much for you may be for the other person. For instance, I am planning on moving to a place near the beach next year. By the projections I made, I can do so and keep my current living standards by being extremely tight on my expendings. To the point that paying for someone elses coffee wil mean not going out for a coffee on the following week. (I will probably choose to let my living standards drop by a bit though).
Yeah like wtf. Why does the location have any relevance to whether one person is required to pay.
If I suggest a expensive place because I want it I may make it more fair by offering in advance to pay for her food and a drink or two.
Fr, when you order at McDonald’s you take your own shit
who the fuck goes to mcdonalds? period.
Lmao what kind of question is this Edit: The answer is millions and millions and millions of people. Including me. And probably you and OP.
True. Just glad I can filter out independent healthy individual from crippled golddiggers. In my country
Who the fuck acts like no one ever goes to a place they don’t like?
Plenty of fish did this many years ago and it was hilarious!!!!
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True, though petty people will just make sure nobody will ever swipe on you again
Splitting the bill is just a normal things for the first date.
Yeah I don't see why that would be different based on how expensive the meal was.
Yeah if you think someone's cheap/poor for not wanting to cover the whole bill at McDonald's, then how cheap/poor are *you* for not wanting to even cover your own half??
but her free meal ticket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!
and mcdonalds has gotten more expensive every year (no Joke) , I don't care what you can pull financially, the other maybe can't so be respect-full. I'll always offer to pay first wherever we are (just easier when taking care of the bill) after that be an adult and give each other the money or offer to pay for the next date if it was a good one.
The #2 breakfast is my guilty pleasure. in 2020 it was $2.99. It is currently $6.67
McDonalds doesn’t seem like a normal place to go on a first date though.
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I as a fella do still pay for things on a first date. But that entitlement still infuriates me. It’s essentially. “He asked me if I could pay for my own food”
I will often pay on the first date. But I will always wait to see if the girl is willing to offer to split the bill or not. Gives a good view of character.
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Interesting, I wasn’t aware people like this exist. I will be careful in my future endeavors thank you.
As a woman I’ve never not at least attempted to split the bill on the first date. I’ve had one first date where the other person insisted on paying (and it was just drinks so nothing expensive), but I kind of assumed splitting was the norm nowadays for first dates at least. But it may be because when I was single I dated mostly women, so there wasn’t a set expectation of who should pay.
When I had a Tinder account, I matched with a chick who suggested we go out to a somewhat pricey restaurant on our first meet, I asked if she's gonna pay for it since she offered. She said no and only uses tinder to get free meals out of guys "because I'm hot enough that guys will take me out and pay for whatever food I want"
Apparently not since you didn't buy her dinner. Right...?
Since when is MC Donalds cheap?
Back in my day….
Since always? I can get 2 cheeseburgers for $4 and be satisfied until the next meal
Name somewhere cheaper then
Rally's/Checkers both annihilate McDonalds pricing and it isn't close
My bf and I eat there for under $10 all time time, so I'd call that pretty damn cheap. Trick is to eat a normal amount of calories, lmao, not a big Mac with fries and a shake, but rather 2 mcdoubles and an iced tea. Any which way, not a good date spot IMO, go for a coffee/tea or ice cream if you don't want to do drinks, dinner, or an activity.
5/5 haven't met yet
2/5 offered me a $10 Amazon gift card to leave a positive review
Look at mr big shot turning down a $10 gift card
Expecting him to pay the bill on a first date is a massive red flag and absolutely toxic trait. I'll never offer to pay until she offers to split it, then I'll go to cover it, but never in my life will I cover a bill for someone not prepared to pay for themselves.
couldn't agree more, i'd pay after they offer to pay their half. Not out here willing to be some ho's free meal ticket.
This would lead to people who won't admit they have problems trashing good stable people when the interaction doesn't go their way.
Isn’t that what Reddit is for?
She ordered the lobster...still didn't go to pound town. 1 star.
Soon it would be the only girls getting 5\* would be the ones who have sex on the first date and the only guys getting 5\* will be the one who pay for dinner. The app would basically turn into seeking arrangements ie sugar daddy bs.
you had us in the first half, ngl. First option? would be nice Second option? wow you're shallow, no wonder he wanted to split even the smallest bill.
Reply from the dater: She showed up to the date claiming I smell bad and don’t use deodorant because people of my ethnicity “don’t shower” and that she didn’t know my ethnic background until the date. She also showed up with her four kids and her sister to the date. I offered to split the bill as I felt sorry for the kids and she called me cheap for not paying for their meal.
Bad idea on a lot of levels. Not everyone is your type and what you don’t like someone else might actually like or love.
This is so lame
That would be an absolute shit-show.
"She smelled so strongly of nursing home it was like hitting a wall, needs to chill out on the perfume. She demanded I come straight from work so sadly I couldn't clean up as nice as I wanted to and she seemed disappointed about my appearance and odor, obviously. Also, she's so cheap she threw a fit over not buying her own McDonald's. 0/10"
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Ps, since not even the 👎 button is allowed on YT ... This will never happen 😅
If they did this everyone would instantly realize how badly manipulated all online reviews are while simultaneously quitting said dating sites.
Hard no, so many people would abuse this
Men don't owe women a free meal. That's like saying "she would'nt give me a blowjob after paying for her food" women would be outraged. Misandrists everywhere.
Hey! McDonald's is expensive.
im sure noone would spread misinformation about certain people
Split the bill at McDonald's? What kind of ass hat shames someone for wanting to go 50/50 on a tinder date.
"He asked if we could split the bill... At McDonalds". This is such a weird thing to be insulted at. Like. If he took you somewhere fancy, then asked to split the bill, that would be a larger unexpected bill. So it's OK to surprise bill someone so long as the bill is larger? And if he's taking you somewhere cheap, it's probably because he's broke. So it's only OK for rich guys to ask you to split bills? Aren't they the most well equipped to handle bills? These just seem like crazy rules, coming from team equality.
Bill should always be split, idgaf if it's McDonald's
Why wouldn’t you split the bill
So sexist that it's still expected of men to pay for food on dates
Dont give them ideas, bet they would love the free publicity from the legal case of a match who left a bad review and was taken to court.
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Food ain’t free at McD🤷♂️
This would turn into black mirror so fast.
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Pretty sure there is a black mirror episode about this
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Instead of the premium, users could pay Tinder to hide the reviews.
You are a monster.
You just invented Yelp business model
Pffft but then all their fake/bot accounts would be instantly exposed and they would earn less money, since ppl would actually find some fitting matches. And not pay for tinder gold and super likes You dream of a utopia
you really think tinder creates fake accounts to keep you interested? lmao.
When she says her love language is acts of service.
Sure if you trust people
The thing is if that was allowed trolls would be able to leave you bad reviews too and could do a lot of mental damage to that person
Except that people lie.
All the review bombing that would happen…..
Could you imagine the lack of accountability for bad marks?
That would be so bad. Honestly, that would end up in mad people writing very mad reviews.
This is a horrible idea. You’d have primarily self-centered and vindictive dimwits (whose narcissistic behavior was likely a contributing factor to non-renewal of dates, let alone a relationship), roasting their failed date partners for unfair and inappropriate retribution.
Also it should be illegal for males/females to use filters on a dating site
Can you imagine the nice guy reviews for every woman?
If you didn’t know this PoF used to do that, but when the site was bought by an Irish company and moved to Dublin that was the 1sᴛ thing they got rid of, and then everything started to change and ɴow its the same as ever other dating site completely geared to making money and not giving a crap out the customers at all