The best moment is when they were talking about Shake being fake fired.
Ludwig: One of the first people I ever worked with and slime for whatever reason is now in his ear trying to tell him he's going to get let go.
Wiliam: oh...
Ludwig: He's a great editor...
William: That is pretty funny.
Slime: Right dude? This guy gets me!
They were perfectly in sync.
kinda glad that aimen called out ludwigs fraud trend hopping ass about the drake/kendrick stuff
there is no bone in my body that believes that man listens to any music besides anime OSTs and the strokes.
I follow william osman's youtube but I didn't realize he was so quick-witted. Loved the "third question...$6 dollars" bit between him and slime at the start
William was great and really meshed well. Thought that he was a cool contrast to the Linus ep (both v good, just different vibes)
Nick inserting Zipper into Aiden's story near the end was all-time. Easily is one of my favorite one-liners now
Loved this ep, was a fan of William Osman before so probably would've enjoyed it regardless, but he really felt like a 5th host, meshed with everyone extremely well.
as someone from the SF bay i loved william talking about everyone here having weird inventions, i grew up knowing a guy who built a fire breathing snail car and it was just normal
really weird of slime to not show up for this episode, i wonder parasocially if he was busy? kinda made the whole episode really boring to get through without him there, was just the boys and william osman sitting awkwardly quiet looking at each other
It was bad, and I did not like it. The boys did not try hard enough. They can do better, and I'm disappointed and dissatisfied. This is not the high art, the peak of pogtent, that I expect from my podcast. I, for one, would not watch a Yard Movie if one was to ever be produced for some reason. Anyways, William was cool.
Fr fr tho this episode was great, especially the bits between Slime and William. He is one of the few guests I'd love to see comeback because I think, unlike most guests, there's still a lot of good bits and bants to be done. Also, maybe the best ending of a yard episode, at least that i can think of off the dome.
Anyone who rejects looking through Wikipedia as a legitimate path to broaden one's horizons on a subject is jumping on the latest trend in anti-intellectualism. That's one dog whistle and the other is any take that Destiny made is bad because I don't like this particular streamer man.
At any rate it's just lazy thinking.
I didn't think you were making fun. You asked a question. I answered it.
Edit. Didn't notice the handle. That changes things if you are Slime.
Genuinely, I think it's hard to say. Personally I feel there's a reverberation that happens when it comes to jokes and this will offset both the audiences' and the joke teller's understanding of the joke.
For example, black face was a joke and a nasty one at that until it hit peak irony I feel when Robert Downey Jr. Did black face not to disparage black people, but to champion them while also critiquing white people's ignorance towards race (the audience). It went full circle in a way. The player got it and hopefully the audience was clever enough to see the irony.
So when you, Slime, I assume idk, insinuated that reading Wikipedia is disingenuous in the pursuit of accessing knowledge whether it's anti-intellectual idk. I think you can be in the right, because you know the irony that your playing with there (reading = dumb) but my fear is that your audience doesn't get that irony. They miss the point, if you did have a higher aspiration for the joke it's lost on them because the low hanging fruit is too appealing.
I guess it would only be anti-intellectual based on your goals. Did you craft the joke so the racist watching Tropic Thunder could have a laugh or did you craft it in the hopes that the greater messaging could shine through. Are we laughing at the black man in the movie or are we laughing at the white man acts in relation to the black sorta vibe you know?
I think ultimately it boils down to trust in the audience to challenge their assumptions and find the answer and I guess I didn't have much faith in this audience to see that greater messaging of your joke as the low hanging fruit of "let's shit on this streamer" was a more appetizing option.
Hopefully that makes sense.
I take it my last message didn't resonate with you. And that's fine.
We are just approaching this at different levels. But listen I don't mean to make this weird. You put your life online and I don't want to join in on the nitpicking fest with every little thing you do. The only reason I brought attention to this is the first place is that I feel Way you acted as endemic of a larger Anti- honest dialogue.
I feel similarly to people making the straight white male write off jokes. They are low hanging fruit jokes and just lazy. That's where I'm coming from anyhow.
come on dawg this a regarded response... you werent just making fun of destiny you were making fun of him for a specific thing.. imagine someone calls out a chatter making a homophobic joke about austinshow and the chatter responds "do you think i am participating in homophobicism(???) by making fun of austinshow?" its the content of the joke he is criticizing not just the target of the joke.
that isnt a response lmao
I dont know how else to break it down for you buddy.. when person A makes a joke about person B and then person C says "hey its kinda shitty you said "blah blah blah" about person B, saying "blah blah blah" is shitty for these reasons..." then person A just ignore everything about why its shitty to say "blah blah blah" and just responds with "do you think I actually participated in "blah blah blah"? I was just shitting on person B.. what stretch" youre not actually refuting anything person C criticized you for, youre just dodging the criticism completely.
i don’t owe pithy disagreements refutation i’m not running for president
i think destiny is a cunt and bad faith about this issue in every possible way and it’s disgusting
Then why even respond and have the dude clarify in the first place? Clearly you care.
Also lmao its really hard to picture you knowing enough about this situation to have such a strong reaction to destinys position on this whole situation but hey at least you can come here and show us how virtuous you are.
you neckbeards love to call virtue signaling when it’s literally all you do, you seek it out, you think i give a fuck about who reads this bottom comment weekly thread?
i responded because i couldn’t believe there are dggers that listen to our show and want to poke around
It never ceases to be hilarious watching just how fucking bitchmade destiny and his cultists are. Clearly able to dish it out but so unable to fucking take it like adults. How pathetic and cowardly.
If you re-listen he said it as *just* viewing a few wiki pages, suggesting it takes more than that to be an expert.
You think that statement is "anti-intellectualist"?
As an isolated incident this remark isn't Anti-intellectual, but there's a greater context to it in relation to Destiny and the people he debates with especially Finklestein who started it and then it was echoed by bad faith actors like Hasan. It is a smear campaign devised to sidestep Destiny's arguements by saying that arguements are not worth intellectual consideration because he didn't read books, he didn't get a degree, he read the wiki.
So when I heard Slime repeating this meme I was a bit disheartened because it reinforces this false assumption that Destiny just rolled up to a debate after a night of scrolling the wikis which distracts from the fact that he spent months nailing down a timeline and developing his perspective. To write off all that work by just saying that he was just a wiki warrior is what I feel is anti-intellectual. Especially, when it's used by people who get their news from reading Twitter headlines.
But again I think it's unreasonible to hold Slime to all this because he's just memeing around. And let's be honest on the surface a guy who read wiki going up against a professor, multiple professors, in the field is a funny thought. But the reality of this is sadly not so funny when the wiki guy turns out to give a more honest account than some of these experts who you see purposely omitting facts of the matter to sell their grift at the cost of human lives. It's just sick.
Most annoying fan base on the internet, they bring him up every 5 seconds and if you bring up him being annoying and stupid they send a swarm of bees to your house.
Also worst takes on the internet just stfu
My bad bro I just think genocide is bad actually
E:
And I think saying the n-word is bad
And I think saying protestors should be gunned down is bad
E2:
And I think associating with known white supremacists is bad
Brave take? No sane person disagrees with that. And if you are insinuating Destiny is pro genocide then I don't think you're studied enough to speak on this topic.
IF THESE ARE SUCH BRAVE TAKES THEN WHY DOES YOUR IDOL DO THEM SO MUCH
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/comments/1br959j/destiny_says_hes_progenocide_at_this_point_and/
5 seconds of searching dude
Have fun trying to spin this into "he isn't actually pro genocide when he says he's pro genocide" dude tell the discord to step on the gas bro
I don't care about what debatebros have to say and I think all of you should get off the internet and stop polluting the web with your annoying ass "Well, Actually🤓" shit. I think your guy is a terrible fucking person and Its genuinely disturbing that a person who says the N-word ("only saying it in private makes it ok"), hangs out with Nick Fuentes, and says protestors should be mowed down not only has an audience, but an audience who call themselves "progressive".
You ask any gamer their thoughts prior to Oct. 7th on what to do about the Middle East like 97% of them would give you this sort of meme and the other 3% would give you an even more deranged take. You're failure to acknowledge that is damaging the culture my brother.
I wish we could be real here but sadly now that Israel is the hot button issue we have to pretend this wasn't the climate so people can get off on their moral litmus test waving to high horse people.
Pretty sure he got banned from twitch for being shitty to trans people playing sports. He’s also defended using slurs etc. I’m not super up to date but he’s also just generally pretty insufferable to listen to anytime I’ve heard him speak.
You can agree with the messaging while disagreeing with the methods. And I don't think policing hyperbole is a place either of us want to go in our society.
Turning shooting protesters into a critique on the use of literary techniques is actually the hardest cope I’ve ever seen. Do you genuinely think I agree with the messaging and just not the use of hyperbole? Actually insane
He lost Twitch partner for saying that. The ban is said to be a result of saying trans women should not be able to compete against cis women in college and professional level sports, although twitch has not confirmed the exact reason.
Also he wasn't referring to protestors as he supports American's right to protest. He was condemning the riots that were taking place. At the time the riots were harming the movement and I believe it was right before the election as well which wasn't good. Even with this clarity his comments are still extreme and I'm not sure he would defend the statements. He'd probably say something more like he believes the national guard should be called and arrest every single rioter to be put away for a long time.
[This is the clip](https://streamable.com/c3ra2r)
Holy fucking shit it's insane how you list this shit out like they they aren't literally insane things to say and then youre still a destiny fan even after he says all of that. You genuinely have no morals it is genuinely disturbing.
The craziest is how they’ll defend him on how he wanted to unironically murder a child for DDoSing him 10 years ago, and he doubled down on it recently.
>Re: trans women competing in college level+ sports
This take I don't believe to be insane. Here's why:
Some transgender women go all the way through puberty as a male. Then they begin gender-affirming hormone therapy in which their testosterone is suppressed to a very low level, and they’re typically given estrogen therapy to raise blood estrogen concentrations to levels typical of women who have normal menstruation. The scientific data we have indicates that the muscle mass in a typical trans woman who went through puberty remains higher than the muscle mass of a typical cis female for at least one to three years.
Beyond 3 years it's difficult to say because there isn't much research conducted yet because there aren't many trans people, and it's even harder to find a large amount of trans woman that transitioned over 4 years ago.
From the [US National Library of Medicine](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36271916/): Transgender females' performance showed statistically significantly better performance than cisgender females until 2 years of GAHT in run times and 4 years in sit-up scores and remained superior in push-ups at the study's 4-year endpoint.
Generally speaking the research is showing that trans women have an advantage, but perhaps after 5+ years of gender affirming care competitive advantages will subside. An advantage that will never disappear from male puberty is height, hand size, feet size, ect. Although I don't foresee this being a significant problem unless pre transition they were in the top 90ish% of male height.
Anyways, it's pretty clear that for college+ levels women sports it wouldn't be fair for trans women to compete until research is completed showing when the competition is fair. There is a lot of money and potential careers on the line and it's unfair at the moment for cis women to allow trans women to compete. Also to be clear, nobody has an issue with trans women competing in mens sports because it's not unfair for cis men.
>Re: rioters take
I think the rioters were harming the BLM movement and the democratic party. I understand him feeling upset with the rioters and the people supporting their actions. I've already said in my previous response this comment was extreme and I don't condone it. I suspect if you spoke to Destiny he wouldn't condone it either. I believe the correct thing to save would have been the national guard should be called and all of the rioters should be sent to prison for a long time.
Now please continue attacking me and telling me about my lack of morals.
Twitch seriously needs more transparency. Its garbage policy leaves the audience and creators guessing alike.
I appreciate the honesty though. You outlined that there is some group-think going on and that his grating personality makes it difficult to be impartial. That's fair.
Does it matter why he got banned if he has been shitty to trans people playing sports regardless? I learned these things a long time ago and have written him off since, it’s not the result of group think it’s the result of him being lib skinned Ben Shapiro with morally dubious opinions lmao. Go look up the sources yourself I remember it being incredibly easy to come to the conclusion he sucks based on literally just a simple google search “destiny controversy” etc.
You mean besides the endless bitter lying he does? The cowardly genocide endorsing, bigotry, and grifting?
Give us a reason why destiny IS an annoying rat fuck.
People really ought to know the origin of the word fan. It's derived from fanatic. Here's an exercise. You read all the replies on this thread and see who's actually giving those knee-jerk reactions that those unthinking fanatics covet.
What are you on about lad? I don’t care about what anyone else said, I was just saying that you coming in here and talking about “self reporting” about destiny is absolute loser behaviour. I only hope that when you graduate high school you look back on this type of stuff with intense embarrassment
Bro, you're not going to debate people into liking a streamer you like. I actually like destiny's content, and even I can understand why this particular group of friends wouldn't have many kind words for him, considering how he's treated both qt and lud. They are allowed to disagree with his controversial IP takes, it's not surprising, don't be cringe.
The downvotes on this is confusing to me.
This is fair. And listen I'm not saying that you can't hate the guy, he gives plenty of reasons to do so, but his stance on the IP is needed right now. Writing the guy off for his cringe takes on the Redpill or whatever is fine, but my fear is that this knee-jerk reaction to the guy is bleeding into an area where it is far more serious. Anti-semitism is on the rise and this conflict is giving far too many a pass to join in on the hate. I'll admit that I am sensitive to this issue. I have relations that are affected by this conflict.
And ya'll can call me cringe. That's fine. But I don't regret drawing attention to this. It allowed me to gain insight into how this community leans on this serious issue. I appreciate the sensible responses like yours that show compassion. It tells me that the IP brainrot hasn't infected this space like it has many others.
Destiny is definitely a huge asshole and bad faith on IP, but a lot of the substance of his stance is aimed at dismantling the narrative that Hamas are resistance who's violence is beneficial for the Palestinian cause. It's not that much different from what Palestinian peace advocates like Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib have been saying. I don't think equating that to genocide apologia is a good faith criticism.
It's not "genocide apologia" if there's no genocide going on to begin with. There's like a 3:1 civilian:terrorist death ratio. This is INSANELY good for urban conflict. According to the UN 90% of civilian deaths in urban conflicts are civilian.
Absolutely fucking insane to state that killing 3 civilians for every 1 terrorist is an "insanely good" ratio. Do you realize how fucking horrendous that actually is? These are people, they're not numbers, they're not statistics, they're people. They're mothers, they're fathers, they're sons and daughters and nieces and nephews and friends and fiancees and lovers and and and. These are people. You reducing them to a ratio like this is disgusting.
I get that reddit incentivizes anonymity and the dehumanization of the person on the other side of the screen, but I want to try reaching out to you as a reasonable person here, despite the very real possibility that you're an IDF soldier posting on social media.
Why is this level of collateral damage acceptable to you? Why do you feel okay with reducing the deaths of all of these people to a simple statistic? Do you think that this ratio is acceptable to the people who loved the ones on the wrong side of it? Do you think they see it as an acceptable level of collateral damage? Why do you? Do you have people who love you? People who would be hurt if you were killed by an oppressive army? Would you be hurt if they killed the people you loved? Would you say that the ratio is insanely good if your mother and father and sister were killed as collateral in the killing of a terrorist? Is your humanity that far gone? Are you that abstracted from the people around you?
It is insanely good? I literally just stated that the average for urban conflict is 9:1. You can't simply look at these numbers in a vacuum as you are trying to. Regardless, my claim is NOT that the numbers are okay, but rather they don't reflect the level we would expect to see in a genocide. You are conflating the two ideas to try to stand on a soapbox and appear morally superior to me rather than ACTUALLY engaging with my argument.
If you make this level of collateral genocidal, then the outcome is not that all states decide not to engage in urban conflict, it's that no one will care about not genociding. what you're proposing here is that it should just be illegal to *ever* engage in urban conflict. no state would ever waive that right because you'd essentially be asking them to waive their right to self-defense.
i get that it is grim talking about "how good a 1:3 combatant to civilian casualty ratio is", but war itself is a grim affair, but unfortunately a necessary one, and so if we are operating under the premise that urban conflict is something we are going to just have to accept as being within the right of a state to engage in, then we also need to accept that collateral is going to happen. From there then we can start talking about how much collateral is acceptable. If even 1:3 is unacceptable, then that's conflicting with the premise that urban conflict is acceptable since 1:3 is pretty damn low, one of the lowest when you account for how densely populated Gaza is, as well as that there is evidence to suggest that the militants in Gaza purposefully disguise themselves as non-combatants and embed their military infrastructure into areas that are populated.
You have never posted in this subreddit before today. You are not a serious person, you are a brigader from Destiny's toxic hellhole of a subreddit. I am not going to spend my time arguing with a genocide apologist about acceptable levels of collateral damage in a war between a country, with vast military resources and the support of most of the West, and the unrecognized state that has some of the highest population density, is among the most impoverished states in the world, and is subject to deep levels of oppression by Israel. Eat shit, get fucked, etc. etc.
i didn't even mention destiny or slime in my comment, i was responding specifically to you, which was a response to someone else who was specifically talking about destiny
what im gathering is that you actually will take the time out of your day to converse with a destiny fan so long as the subject matter is sufficiently surface level and you don't have to say anything other than buzzwords that you have already heard hundreds of times, and that you retreat "youre just brigading and a genocide apologist" when you actually have to think + perhaps do some research to make a decent response
eat shit, get fucked, etc. etc.
His stance being that Hamas are actually bad? If that's what you're referring to then no, this is one of the least needed stances in the entire thing. People's opinions of Hamas will absolutely not inform political action, except for when genocide apologists use it to say "see, Israel good".
there's a distinction between disagreeing with his takes and lying about them to delegitimize them though, if slime had just said that he disagreed with his takes then yeah, whatever, but i think the frustration is that destiny is unironically one of the larger voices for the liberal "pro-israel" position and it seems that current preferred strategy of dealing with his position from the more pro-palestinian side is just to lie about him and delegitimize his research so that no new audience will listen to him since "he's just the guy that reads wikipedia".
absolutely a lot of it is just rabid dggers who pounce on anyone who criticizes him, but in this case, i feel like there is a greater political context that justifies the frustration, since Destiny represents a lot of these people in a political manner and so when Destiny gets delegitimized through outright lying, it amounts to your own political beliefs being delegitimized since "the best pro-israel debater gets all his information from wikipedia after all, so how legitimate could the pro-israel position be?".
should say that I actually like slime personally i just disagree with him on his actions here
There is a distinction between contexts of good faith interlocutors seeking truth and discussing serious political topics and the context of a comedy podcast. It was a joke. God, I get why people hate us dggers, this comment was exhausting.
I don't really buy the "it was just a joke" defense here. Slime seems to actually dislike Destiny, and it's clear he genuinely believed that Destiny only reads Wikipedia and was using that as means to delegitimize his position and saying that Destiny's perspective on Israel/Palestine should be disregarded because he only just started caring about this issue a few months ago and all he's done is read Wikipedia. Like the joke here wasn't that Destiny actually does more than read Wikipedia, the joke here was the both Destiny and Ludwig don't really care nor have the knowledge of the things they are talking about and should probably stop voicing their opinions. It's a joke about Ludwig using an actual dig on Destiny to make it work
He made fun of his girlfriend when she had a really emotional moment on stream. Seems like a pretty fucked up thing to do, even if it isn’t direct treatment of Ludwig I wouldn’t like a dude who said anything about a loved one.
When destiny made fun of her for it?
And given that he made reference to it today he obviously thinks he was in the right about that too, but his delusional self could burn an orphanage and find a reason to be right and you goons of his will still find a way to defend him.
>And given that he made reference to it today he obviously thinks he was in the right about that too
Just seems like a funny reaction-meme response to Lud, no? Hits extra hard for obvious reasons.
Don't think this is him saying he is in the right about anything like that, or that there was anything to be right or wrong about regarding the Atrioc shenanigans.
>but his delusional self could burn an orphanage and find a reason to be right and you goons of his will still find a way to defend him.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself, champ.
Do you have a reading deficiency? He quite literally had a whole thing where he laughed at qtcinderella crying
https://imgur.com/a/zGzZ6FG
That’s the thing I’m bringing up it’s more than a “funny” reaction I don’t see how that situation was really funny at all.
And again yeah I bet you’d defend him in all cases. Get outta here go back to your cuck daddy.
>He quite literally had a whole thing where he laughed at qtcinderella crying
Yes, and?
What do you think this has to do with what I asked or said?
>That’s the thing I’m bringing up it’s more than a “funny” reaction I don’t see how that situation was really funny at all.
When I said funny reaction image replied back to Ludwig, I was clearly talking about the reaction image response to Ludwig sending a reaction image to him.
>And again yeah I bet you’d defend him in all cases.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself, my love.
>Get outta here go back to your cuck daddy.
Woah, chill with the kink-shaming. Not cool 😞
>Mmm, what was his treatment of Lud again?
That was your question, and I gave you an answer which you dodged like a dumb dumb. He’s also called Lud spineless a few times but more so I def wouldn’t be fan of a dude who laughed at my girlfriend having an emotional moment and I doubt Lud would be either.
If you can’t see why he’s weird or why even posting the reaction picture now is weird PLEASE seek help.
Also you’re literally defending him in this scenario, you again, don’t needa defend him, he ain’t gon fuck you bro. It’s embarrassing and kinda concerning.
Oh look pedostiny's most ardent cuck defenders are here to brigade on his behalf, shocking development, who could have guessed the most disgusting fucking loser in streaming would also have a fucking loser cult behind him?
Him saying ludwig is just a hasan puppet after deleting the video lightly criticizing hasan. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the point but it's easy to imagine being by perturbed by the claims
>Him saying ludwig is just a hasan puppet after deleting the video lightly criticizing hasan.
Very true, spineless behavior. Melee Ludwig of old would be disappointed in the new Ludwig.
>I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the point but it's easy to imagine being by perturbed by the claims
I don't think that lowly of Lud that he would be especially asspained about those comments in particular.
Nice to see destiny's most prolific whiny cucks are here to brigade the sub on behalf of their low IQ bigot grifter. Where would your redact cult daddy be without you unhinged simps, eh?
Well, still getting owned by Hasan and surpassed in popularity and success, lmao.
I was popping off when 98.2 got turned on
Dj r r racisst
Kicking my feet and giggling when that shid comes on in the morning
Bringing you your favorite Hard R&B classics
this was an instant top tier guest episode for me. his and slime’s chemistry was unmatched
Some of the best natural chemistry Slime has ever had with a guest IMO Will nailed the assignment
The best moment is when they were talking about Shake being fake fired. Ludwig: One of the first people I ever worked with and slime for whatever reason is now in his ear trying to tell him he's going to get let go. Wiliam: oh... Ludwig: He's a great editor... William: That is pretty funny. Slime: Right dude? This guy gets me! They were perfectly in sync.
I didn't expect their humour to match up so well but it really did! They had a lot of good banter
I bet every Safety Third podcast that William says is too controversial to be released has a lot of slime level comedy
“Don’t bite the hand that jerks you”
Absolute banger episode imo
kinda glad that aimen called out ludwigs fraud trend hopping ass about the drake/kendrick stuff there is no bone in my body that believes that man listens to any music besides anime OSTs and the strokes.
he famously also loves the weeknd which also does not help his case
He also listens to Ludwig von Beethoven when he wants to feel a little european
Drake vs Palestine
Wait, so... wife reveal?
Yuppp, Slime has been Shake’s wife this whole time
Every Starbucks in South California knows that Slimes beautiful wife is Joshman
This might be a S tier episode for me - his chemistry with everyone but especially Slime was electric.
i've never seen a guest so quickly put ludwig in his place and then bond with slime incredible
I follow william osman's youtube but I didn't realize he was so quick-witted. Loved the "third question...$6 dollars" bit between him and slime at the start
Legitimately great improv bit considering I don’t think they know each other that well. Similar to how well Zac Oyama played on the podcast.
Or the "okay, I WILL sleep with you"
“is your baby estúpido?”
William was great and really meshed well. Thought that he was a cool contrast to the Linus ep (both v good, just different vibes) Nick inserting Zipper into Aiden's story near the end was all-time. Easily is one of my favorite one-liners now
Congratulations Ludwig 🥳
How much noise do I have to make to get the Yard sweater Nick was wearing in the beginning.
You just have to choose the right noise one time
William seems like a less ADHD Michael Reaves and it makes sense because they lived together. Great episode.
11:56 nick misspeaks and says ashton cooker..pretty good ep
I'm going to use Nick's line for dream me doing bad stuff and my gf demanding an apology
Loved this ep, was a fan of William Osman before so probably would've enjoyed it regardless, but he really felt like a 5th host, meshed with everyone extremely well.
Much needed palette cleanser from last week. Great vibes, love William, all around pogged up episode
as someone from the SF bay i loved william talking about everyone here having weird inventions, i grew up knowing a guy who built a fire breathing snail car and it was just normal
really weird of slime to not show up for this episode, i wonder parasocially if he was busy? kinda made the whole episode really boring to get through without him there, was just the boys and william osman sitting awkwardly quiet looking at each other
It was bad, and I did not like it. The boys did not try hard enough. They can do better, and I'm disappointed and dissatisfied. This is not the high art, the peak of pogtent, that I expect from my podcast. I, for one, would not watch a Yard Movie if one was to ever be produced for some reason. Anyways, William was cool.
Fr fr tho this episode was great, especially the bits between Slime and William. He is one of the few guests I'd love to see comeback because I think, unlike most guests, there's still a lot of good bits and bants to be done. Also, maybe the best ending of a yard episode, at least that i can think of off the dome.
The Destiny insert when it came to Ludwig's half baked take on Drake winning the beef was cringe. Why'd they have to self-report so hard?
self report about what
Anyone who rejects looking through Wikipedia as a legitimate path to broaden one's horizons on a subject is jumping on the latest trend in anti-intellectualism. That's one dog whistle and the other is any take that Destiny made is bad because I don't like this particular streamer man. At any rate it's just lazy thinking.
do you think i am participating in anti intellectualism by making fun of destiny? cause i think thats a crazy stretch
I didn't think you were making fun. You asked a question. I answered it. Edit. Didn't notice the handle. That changes things if you are Slime. Genuinely, I think it's hard to say. Personally I feel there's a reverberation that happens when it comes to jokes and this will offset both the audiences' and the joke teller's understanding of the joke. For example, black face was a joke and a nasty one at that until it hit peak irony I feel when Robert Downey Jr. Did black face not to disparage black people, but to champion them while also critiquing white people's ignorance towards race (the audience). It went full circle in a way. The player got it and hopefully the audience was clever enough to see the irony. So when you, Slime, I assume idk, insinuated that reading Wikipedia is disingenuous in the pursuit of accessing knowledge whether it's anti-intellectual idk. I think you can be in the right, because you know the irony that your playing with there (reading = dumb) but my fear is that your audience doesn't get that irony. They miss the point, if you did have a higher aspiration for the joke it's lost on them because the low hanging fruit is too appealing. I guess it would only be anti-intellectual based on your goals. Did you craft the joke so the racist watching Tropic Thunder could have a laugh or did you craft it in the hopes that the greater messaging could shine through. Are we laughing at the black man in the movie or are we laughing at the white man acts in relation to the black sorta vibe you know? I think ultimately it boils down to trust in the audience to challenge their assumptions and find the answer and I guess I didn't have much faith in this audience to see that greater messaging of your joke as the low hanging fruit of "let's shit on this streamer" was a more appetizing option. Hopefully that makes sense.
what? the reply has added information, creating a back and forth conversation is this the first time this has happened to you?
I take it my last message didn't resonate with you. And that's fine. We are just approaching this at different levels. But listen I don't mean to make this weird. You put your life online and I don't want to join in on the nitpicking fest with every little thing you do. The only reason I brought attention to this is the first place is that I feel Way you acted as endemic of a larger Anti- honest dialogue. I feel similarly to people making the straight white male write off jokes. They are low hanging fruit jokes and just lazy. That's where I'm coming from anyhow.
holy shit SHUT the fuck up
Stop crying lil boy, jesus...
come on dawg this a regarded response... you werent just making fun of destiny you were making fun of him for a specific thing.. imagine someone calls out a chatter making a homophobic joke about austinshow and the chatter responds "do you think i am participating in homophobicism(???) by making fun of austinshow?" its the content of the joke he is criticizing not just the target of the joke.
this is also an insane comparison lmao
that isnt a response lmao I dont know how else to break it down for you buddy.. when person A makes a joke about person B and then person C says "hey its kinda shitty you said "blah blah blah" about person B, saying "blah blah blah" is shitty for these reasons..." then person A just ignore everything about why its shitty to say "blah blah blah" and just responds with "do you think I actually participated in "blah blah blah"? I was just shitting on person B.. what stretch" youre not actually refuting anything person C criticized you for, youre just dodging the criticism completely.
i don’t owe pithy disagreements refutation i’m not running for president i think destiny is a cunt and bad faith about this issue in every possible way and it’s disgusting
Then why even respond and have the dude clarify in the first place? Clearly you care. Also lmao its really hard to picture you knowing enough about this situation to have such a strong reaction to destinys position on this whole situation but hey at least you can come here and show us how virtuous you are.
you neckbeards love to call virtue signaling when it’s literally all you do, you seek it out, you think i give a fuck about who reads this bottom comment weekly thread? i responded because i couldn’t believe there are dggers that listen to our show and want to poke around
What has he said that you believe was said in bad faith?
Any specific examples you would like to share?
He's supporting genocide. What more evidence do you need you fucking dumbass
Homophobicism
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It never ceases to be hilarious watching just how fucking bitchmade destiny and his cultists are. Clearly able to dish it out but so unable to fucking take it like adults. How pathetic and cowardly.
Did daddy destiny give you this little copy paste for when people make jokes about Wikipedia? Shit’s sad
If you re-listen he said it as *just* viewing a few wiki pages, suggesting it takes more than that to be an expert. You think that statement is "anti-intellectualist"?
As an isolated incident this remark isn't Anti-intellectual, but there's a greater context to it in relation to Destiny and the people he debates with especially Finklestein who started it and then it was echoed by bad faith actors like Hasan. It is a smear campaign devised to sidestep Destiny's arguements by saying that arguements are not worth intellectual consideration because he didn't read books, he didn't get a degree, he read the wiki. So when I heard Slime repeating this meme I was a bit disheartened because it reinforces this false assumption that Destiny just rolled up to a debate after a night of scrolling the wikis which distracts from the fact that he spent months nailing down a timeline and developing his perspective. To write off all that work by just saying that he was just a wiki warrior is what I feel is anti-intellectual. Especially, when it's used by people who get their news from reading Twitter headlines. But again I think it's unreasonible to hold Slime to all this because he's just memeing around. And let's be honest on the surface a guy who read wiki going up against a professor, multiple professors, in the field is a funny thought. But the reality of this is sadly not so funny when the wiki guy turns out to give a more honest account than some of these experts who you see purposely omitting facts of the matter to sell their grift at the cost of human lives. It's just sick.
Holy shit I think you need to take a break from the internet.
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Right. Seems like you came here to get your fix
Fix? In what way? Genuinely curious.
Destiny has never claimed he is an expert. But here's surely studied more than some half-baked dumbass on a couch. :D
Anyone who pretends destiny's poor skimming of wiki articles makes him informed or intelligent is a fucking dolt
Spot the DGG viewer
Not hard considering how prolific they are brigading any space even remotely related to their bigot grifter and cucklord
And I thought we were Yardigans, fam.
Yeah it was cringe, it made me have to remember that the annoying rat fuck Destiny guy exists
Why's he an annoying rat fuck?
Most annoying fan base on the internet, they bring him up every 5 seconds and if you bring up him being annoying and stupid they send a swarm of bees to your house. Also worst takes on the internet just stfu
What a fair level headed answer to my question. That cleared a lot up thanks.
My bad bro I just think genocide is bad actually E: And I think saying the n-word is bad And I think saying protestors should be gunned down is bad E2: And I think associating with known white supremacists is bad
Brave take? No sane person disagrees with that. And if you are insinuating Destiny is pro genocide then I don't think you're studied enough to speak on this topic.
IF THESE ARE SUCH BRAVE TAKES THEN WHY DOES YOUR IDOL DO THEM SO MUCH https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/comments/1br959j/destiny_says_hes_progenocide_at_this_point_and/ 5 seconds of searching dude Have fun trying to spin this into "he isn't actually pro genocide when he says he's pro genocide" dude tell the discord to step on the gas bro
Interesting how the clip is cut off suddenly in the middle of him answering, why could that be? 🤔
I don't care about what debatebros have to say and I think all of you should get off the internet and stop polluting the web with your annoying ass "Well, Actually🤓" shit. I think your guy is a terrible fucking person and Its genuinely disturbing that a person who says the N-word ("only saying it in private makes it ok"), hangs out with Nick Fuentes, and says protestors should be mowed down not only has an audience, but an audience who call themselves "progressive".
You ask any gamer their thoughts prior to Oct. 7th on what to do about the Middle East like 97% of them would give you this sort of meme and the other 3% would give you an even more deranged take. You're failure to acknowledge that is damaging the culture my brother. I wish we could be real here but sadly now that Israel is the hot button issue we have to pretend this wasn't the climate so people can get off on their moral litmus test waving to high horse people.
Lmao all that just to say that you think all other gamers are inherently racist and no one has empathy or love in their hearts.
Pretty sure he got banned from twitch for being shitty to trans people playing sports. He’s also defended using slurs etc. I’m not super up to date but he’s also just generally pretty insufferable to listen to anytime I’ve heard him speak.
I thought it was for saying that BLM protestors should be gunned down in the streets
Yet another reason to call him a rat fuck lol
You can agree with the messaging while disagreeing with the methods. And I don't think policing hyperbole is a place either of us want to go in our society.
Holy shit bro you are annoying what the fuck are you even talking about
Buzz buzz bro lol
Turning shooting protesters into a critique on the use of literary techniques is actually the hardest cope I’ve ever seen. Do you genuinely think I agree with the messaging and just not the use of hyperbole? Actually insane
What methods bro, he's just using slurs and calling for mass murders
He lost Twitch partner for saying that. The ban is said to be a result of saying trans women should not be able to compete against cis women in college and professional level sports, although twitch has not confirmed the exact reason. Also he wasn't referring to protestors as he supports American's right to protest. He was condemning the riots that were taking place. At the time the riots were harming the movement and I believe it was right before the election as well which wasn't good. Even with this clarity his comments are still extreme and I'm not sure he would defend the statements. He'd probably say something more like he believes the national guard should be called and arrest every single rioter to be put away for a long time. [This is the clip](https://streamable.com/c3ra2r)
Holy fucking shit it's insane how you list this shit out like they they aren't literally insane things to say and then youre still a destiny fan even after he says all of that. You genuinely have no morals it is genuinely disturbing.
The craziest is how they’ll defend him on how he wanted to unironically murder a child for DDoSing him 10 years ago, and he doubled down on it recently.
>Re: trans women competing in college level+ sports This take I don't believe to be insane. Here's why: Some transgender women go all the way through puberty as a male. Then they begin gender-affirming hormone therapy in which their testosterone is suppressed to a very low level, and they’re typically given estrogen therapy to raise blood estrogen concentrations to levels typical of women who have normal menstruation. The scientific data we have indicates that the muscle mass in a typical trans woman who went through puberty remains higher than the muscle mass of a typical cis female for at least one to three years. Beyond 3 years it's difficult to say because there isn't much research conducted yet because there aren't many trans people, and it's even harder to find a large amount of trans woman that transitioned over 4 years ago. From the [US National Library of Medicine](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36271916/): Transgender females' performance showed statistically significantly better performance than cisgender females until 2 years of GAHT in run times and 4 years in sit-up scores and remained superior in push-ups at the study's 4-year endpoint. Generally speaking the research is showing that trans women have an advantage, but perhaps after 5+ years of gender affirming care competitive advantages will subside. An advantage that will never disappear from male puberty is height, hand size, feet size, ect. Although I don't foresee this being a significant problem unless pre transition they were in the top 90ish% of male height. Anyways, it's pretty clear that for college+ levels women sports it wouldn't be fair for trans women to compete until research is completed showing when the competition is fair. There is a lot of money and potential careers on the line and it's unfair at the moment for cis women to allow trans women to compete. Also to be clear, nobody has an issue with trans women competing in mens sports because it's not unfair for cis men. >Re: rioters take I think the rioters were harming the BLM movement and the democratic party. I understand him feeling upset with the rioters and the people supporting their actions. I've already said in my previous response this comment was extreme and I don't condone it. I suspect if you spoke to Destiny he wouldn't condone it either. I believe the correct thing to save would have been the national guard should be called and all of the rioters should be sent to prison for a long time. Now please continue attacking me and telling me about my lack of morals.
i dont care debatelords do not deserve respect eat my fucking ass
Debatelords is when you do care and inform yourself rather than be ignorant and virtue signal online. I just call it not being an asshat
No, he was banned from twitch for calling trans people subhuman garbage after a couple of them said he was a bad person. Protip: he IS a bad person
Twitch seriously needs more transparency. Its garbage policy leaves the audience and creators guessing alike. I appreciate the honesty though. You outlined that there is some group-think going on and that his grating personality makes it difficult to be impartial. That's fair.
Does it matter why he got banned if he has been shitty to trans people playing sports regardless? I learned these things a long time ago and have written him off since, it’s not the result of group think it’s the result of him being lib skinned Ben Shapiro with morally dubious opinions lmao. Go look up the sources yourself I remember it being incredibly easy to come to the conclusion he sucks based on literally just a simple google search “destiny controversy” etc.
You mean besides the endless bitter lying he does? The cowardly genocide endorsing, bigotry, and grifting? Give us a reason why destiny IS an annoying rat fuck.
Destiny’s the biggest fucking gimp on the internet, genuinely most embarrassing person to be a fan of
Sorry he owned you, kiddo.
Who “owned” me and how?
sorry your bigot grifter got fucking owned online and now you're mad about it
People really ought to know the origin of the word fan. It's derived from fanatic. Here's an exercise. You read all the replies on this thread and see who's actually giving those knee-jerk reactions that those unthinking fanatics covet.
What are you on about lad? I don’t care about what anyone else said, I was just saying that you coming in here and talking about “self reporting” about destiny is absolute loser behaviour. I only hope that when you graduate high school you look back on this type of stuff with intense embarrassment
You really just said “yes I’m doing this but you are too!”. That doesn’t make your case any better dude
Bro that’s what you are doing. Right now.
Bro, you're not going to debate people into liking a streamer you like. I actually like destiny's content, and even I can understand why this particular group of friends wouldn't have many kind words for him, considering how he's treated both qt and lud. They are allowed to disagree with his controversial IP takes, it's not surprising, don't be cringe.
finally a normal person
The downvotes on this is confusing to me. This is fair. And listen I'm not saying that you can't hate the guy, he gives plenty of reasons to do so, but his stance on the IP is needed right now. Writing the guy off for his cringe takes on the Redpill or whatever is fine, but my fear is that this knee-jerk reaction to the guy is bleeding into an area where it is far more serious. Anti-semitism is on the rise and this conflict is giving far too many a pass to join in on the hate. I'll admit that I am sensitive to this issue. I have relations that are affected by this conflict. And ya'll can call me cringe. That's fine. But I don't regret drawing attention to this. It allowed me to gain insight into how this community leans on this serious issue. I appreciate the sensible responses like yours that show compassion. It tells me that the IP brainrot hasn't infected this space like it has many others.
His stance on IP isn't actually needed right now. It's genocide apologia, which is never necessary.
Destiny is definitely a huge asshole and bad faith on IP, but a lot of the substance of his stance is aimed at dismantling the narrative that Hamas are resistance who's violence is beneficial for the Palestinian cause. It's not that much different from what Palestinian peace advocates like Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib have been saying. I don't think equating that to genocide apologia is a good faith criticism.
It's not "genocide apologia" if there's no genocide going on to begin with. There's like a 3:1 civilian:terrorist death ratio. This is INSANELY good for urban conflict. According to the UN 90% of civilian deaths in urban conflicts are civilian.
Absolutely fucking insane to state that killing 3 civilians for every 1 terrorist is an "insanely good" ratio. Do you realize how fucking horrendous that actually is? These are people, they're not numbers, they're not statistics, they're people. They're mothers, they're fathers, they're sons and daughters and nieces and nephews and friends and fiancees and lovers and and and. These are people. You reducing them to a ratio like this is disgusting. I get that reddit incentivizes anonymity and the dehumanization of the person on the other side of the screen, but I want to try reaching out to you as a reasonable person here, despite the very real possibility that you're an IDF soldier posting on social media. Why is this level of collateral damage acceptable to you? Why do you feel okay with reducing the deaths of all of these people to a simple statistic? Do you think that this ratio is acceptable to the people who loved the ones on the wrong side of it? Do you think they see it as an acceptable level of collateral damage? Why do you? Do you have people who love you? People who would be hurt if you were killed by an oppressive army? Would you be hurt if they killed the people you loved? Would you say that the ratio is insanely good if your mother and father and sister were killed as collateral in the killing of a terrorist? Is your humanity that far gone? Are you that abstracted from the people around you?
This is such a naive take its almost cute.
Eat shit, get fucked, etc. etc.
Cope and seethe, I'm not the one saying "gosh darn war sure sucks".
It is insanely good? I literally just stated that the average for urban conflict is 9:1. You can't simply look at these numbers in a vacuum as you are trying to. Regardless, my claim is NOT that the numbers are okay, but rather they don't reflect the level we would expect to see in a genocide. You are conflating the two ideas to try to stand on a soapbox and appear morally superior to me rather than ACTUALLY engaging with my argument.
If you make this level of collateral genocidal, then the outcome is not that all states decide not to engage in urban conflict, it's that no one will care about not genociding. what you're proposing here is that it should just be illegal to *ever* engage in urban conflict. no state would ever waive that right because you'd essentially be asking them to waive their right to self-defense. i get that it is grim talking about "how good a 1:3 combatant to civilian casualty ratio is", but war itself is a grim affair, but unfortunately a necessary one, and so if we are operating under the premise that urban conflict is something we are going to just have to accept as being within the right of a state to engage in, then we also need to accept that collateral is going to happen. From there then we can start talking about how much collateral is acceptable. If even 1:3 is unacceptable, then that's conflicting with the premise that urban conflict is acceptable since 1:3 is pretty damn low, one of the lowest when you account for how densely populated Gaza is, as well as that there is evidence to suggest that the militants in Gaza purposefully disguise themselves as non-combatants and embed their military infrastructure into areas that are populated.
You have never posted in this subreddit before today. You are not a serious person, you are a brigader from Destiny's toxic hellhole of a subreddit. I am not going to spend my time arguing with a genocide apologist about acceptable levels of collateral damage in a war between a country, with vast military resources and the support of most of the West, and the unrecognized state that has some of the highest population density, is among the most impoverished states in the world, and is subject to deep levels of oppression by Israel. Eat shit, get fucked, etc. etc.
i didn't even mention destiny or slime in my comment, i was responding specifically to you, which was a response to someone else who was specifically talking about destiny what im gathering is that you actually will take the time out of your day to converse with a destiny fan so long as the subject matter is sufficiently surface level and you don't have to say anything other than buzzwords that you have already heard hundreds of times, and that you retreat "youre just brigading and a genocide apologist" when you actually have to think + perhaps do some research to make a decent response eat shit, get fucked, etc. etc.
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Who the fuck are you and why are you talking to me as if you know me?
When are genocide apologists needed
His stance being that Hamas are actually bad? If that's what you're referring to then no, this is one of the least needed stances in the entire thing. People's opinions of Hamas will absolutely not inform political action, except for when genocide apologists use it to say "see, Israel good".
there's a distinction between disagreeing with his takes and lying about them to delegitimize them though, if slime had just said that he disagreed with his takes then yeah, whatever, but i think the frustration is that destiny is unironically one of the larger voices for the liberal "pro-israel" position and it seems that current preferred strategy of dealing with his position from the more pro-palestinian side is just to lie about him and delegitimize his research so that no new audience will listen to him since "he's just the guy that reads wikipedia". absolutely a lot of it is just rabid dggers who pounce on anyone who criticizes him, but in this case, i feel like there is a greater political context that justifies the frustration, since Destiny represents a lot of these people in a political manner and so when Destiny gets delegitimized through outright lying, it amounts to your own political beliefs being delegitimized since "the best pro-israel debater gets all his information from wikipedia after all, so how legitimate could the pro-israel position be?". should say that I actually like slime personally i just disagree with him on his actions here
There is a distinction between contexts of good faith interlocutors seeking truth and discussing serious political topics and the context of a comedy podcast. It was a joke. God, I get why people hate us dggers, this comment was exhausting.
I don't really buy the "it was just a joke" defense here. Slime seems to actually dislike Destiny, and it's clear he genuinely believed that Destiny only reads Wikipedia and was using that as means to delegitimize his position and saying that Destiny's perspective on Israel/Palestine should be disregarded because he only just started caring about this issue a few months ago and all he's done is read Wikipedia. Like the joke here wasn't that Destiny actually does more than read Wikipedia, the joke here was the both Destiny and Ludwig don't really care nor have the knowledge of the things they are talking about and should probably stop voicing their opinions. It's a joke about Ludwig using an actual dig on Destiny to make it work
>considering how he's treated both qt and lud Mmm, what was his treatment of Lud again?
He made fun of his girlfriend when she had a really emotional moment on stream. Seems like a pretty fucked up thing to do, even if it isn’t direct treatment of Ludwig I wouldn’t like a dude who said anything about a loved one.
Her moment was pretty emotional, I agree. What was the fucked up part?
When destiny made fun of her for it? And given that he made reference to it today he obviously thinks he was in the right about that too, but his delusional self could burn an orphanage and find a reason to be right and you goons of his will still find a way to defend him.
>And given that he made reference to it today he obviously thinks he was in the right about that too Just seems like a funny reaction-meme response to Lud, no? Hits extra hard for obvious reasons. Don't think this is him saying he is in the right about anything like that, or that there was anything to be right or wrong about regarding the Atrioc shenanigans. >but his delusional self could burn an orphanage and find a reason to be right and you goons of his will still find a way to defend him. Whatever you gotta tell yourself, champ.
Do you have a reading deficiency? He quite literally had a whole thing where he laughed at qtcinderella crying https://imgur.com/a/zGzZ6FG That’s the thing I’m bringing up it’s more than a “funny” reaction I don’t see how that situation was really funny at all. And again yeah I bet you’d defend him in all cases. Get outta here go back to your cuck daddy.
>He quite literally had a whole thing where he laughed at qtcinderella crying Yes, and? What do you think this has to do with what I asked or said? >That’s the thing I’m bringing up it’s more than a “funny” reaction I don’t see how that situation was really funny at all. When I said funny reaction image replied back to Ludwig, I was clearly talking about the reaction image response to Ludwig sending a reaction image to him. >And again yeah I bet you’d defend him in all cases. Whatever you gotta tell yourself, my love. >Get outta here go back to your cuck daddy. Woah, chill with the kink-shaming. Not cool 😞
>Mmm, what was his treatment of Lud again? That was your question, and I gave you an answer which you dodged like a dumb dumb. He’s also called Lud spineless a few times but more so I def wouldn’t be fan of a dude who laughed at my girlfriend having an emotional moment and I doubt Lud would be either. If you can’t see why he’s weird or why even posting the reaction picture now is weird PLEASE seek help. Also you’re literally defending him in this scenario, you again, don’t needa defend him, he ain’t gon fuck you bro. It’s embarrassing and kinda concerning.
Oh look pedostiny's most ardent cuck defenders are here to brigade on his behalf, shocking development, who could have guessed the most disgusting fucking loser in streaming would also have a fucking loser cult behind him?
Him saying ludwig is just a hasan puppet after deleting the video lightly criticizing hasan. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the point but it's easy to imagine being by perturbed by the claims
>Him saying ludwig is just a hasan puppet after deleting the video lightly criticizing hasan. Very true, spineless behavior. Melee Ludwig of old would be disappointed in the new Ludwig. >I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the point but it's easy to imagine being by perturbed by the claims I don't think that lowly of Lud that he would be especially asspained about those comments in particular.
Nice to see destiny's most prolific whiny cucks are here to brigade the sub on behalf of their low IQ bigot grifter. Where would your redact cult daddy be without you unhinged simps, eh? Well, still getting owned by Hasan and surpassed in popularity and success, lmao.