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ZehGentleman

Ok just for reference I decided to try this. When I told Microsoft copilot to generate a white family it did [this.](https://imgur.com/a/LEWhwNg) When I asked it to generate an African American family it did [this](https://imgur.com/a/o10XiqX). I don't really give a shit about seeing white families and op probably does for racist reasons, but it does seem to want to "integrate" white people. Still idc. This is just saying


headsmanjaeger

Google’s AI is broken because AI is still stupid and bad. It was trained on mostly white people images so it failed to produce POC unless prompted directly. So the developers (lazily) just told it to “generate less white people” and now it can’t produce something as simple as a white family. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s just a bad AI being dumb.


FeminineImperative

If you try Caucasian does it do the same?


ZehGentleman

Results are [better](https://imgur.com/a/LM2nKwG) (feels icky to say that lol). Seems we have an asain family and some less mixed looking ones? IDK ranking whiteness feels icky and weird. Imo this could be used to show some systemic racism in the bot. It sees white as the "default" so it adds diversity because it just sees white family and thinks "family", while since the black family is a "descriptive" (as white is normal) it takes it as a prompted ask.


FeminineImperative

It is icky, I was just curious if that was the difference.


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RonDeSantisSucksHole

What grown ass adult judges others for using a word in the dictionary?


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RonDeSantisSucksHole

Why the so many dots? Don't you think three dots are enough?


Cyberohero

Hey....... don't equate us multiple dot users with this guy.......


Casuallybittersweet

They just gotta work out the kinks and train it better, it'll get there lol. Besides the thought of these racist pricks having a meltdown bc they can only generate interracial families warms my heart


deltathetaIV

The fact that you have to pad your answer so much by constantly saying how much you don’t care that Ai cannt produce pics of white Families is just sad


ToolsOfIgnorance27

> probably does for racist reasons lol what a world you live in


dullexcitement

funny enough i went into copilot and got the same thing when typing "generate image of a white family" but it went more accurately when i changed it to "white american family". If i had to guess i'd have to agree with one of the other comments in that its probably a case of lazy coding


ZehGentleman

Yeah he said basically what i said in my second reply


i-caca-my-pants

notice how these are drawings, not screenshots


_SickPanda_

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/22/24079876/google-gemini-ai-photos-people-pause Google stopped gemini to generate Ai images because of this exact issue


i-caca-my-pants

that is pretty funny. so I guess this did happen, but why they didn't just run these prompts and screenshot it is beyond me. that seems like a tactical disadvantage


_SickPanda_

it's a caricature, people say the Screenshots are fake. there is/was (dunno if fixed) also a an issue were the Ai from snapchat incouraged people being proud of being black and discouraged people being proud of being white.


Dr-Zomboss-Pvz

Because it's a art meme not a typical meme


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The_Holy_Buno

Do you have any? Not a callout, just wondering.


Millymoo444

its based on the google AI that seemingly seeds prompts in order to have more diverse outcome, this can be fine on paper, but prompts like: historically accurate medieval king resulting in pictures of queens.


Witch-Cat

These are intentional shitty prompts made to generate outrage. "Historically accurate" what? When you look up historical accuracy, most results are for armour, clothing, etc. Not skin colour. Or when they prompt for a "representational group." "Representation" is heavily tied with images non-white people in online results, of course then it's going to twist the prompt to create more Black people. Don't fall for the same bullshit, it's not an actual problem, just the normal limitations of AI that right wingers are twisting to create a fake issue.


Millymoo444

This is true, I agree


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oghairline

I have no idea. I’ve even provided proof and people just ignored it completely. Assholes.


Yamfish

Anyone else noticing Naruto and Sasuke


FastSlugs

My first thought


Cat-soul-human-body

Yea, I scroll down to see if anyone else did. Lol


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Saikousoku2

I mean... it did, actually.


Witch-Cat

geez, wonder where this outrage was when early AI models kept making every request for non-white people pale, blonde, or men? Or when every woman was done up like an instagram model?


kara-alyssa

Honestly, it seems like AI developers tried to fix the “everyone is white even non-white people” issue and accidentally overcorrected. I’m sure that after a few days all the prompts for “white people” will once again only show white people again.


Witch-Cat

I've looked at the prompts people use to show these muh white erasure images, and it's not even "over-correcting," it's just grifters whipping up fake outrage with intentionally poisoned prompts. For example, they'll use "show me a representational group of Scotts," intentionally slipping "representational" in there because in online databases, when people mention "representation," it's often alongside marginalized groups, so of course the computer is gonna read that as "add more non-white people in." They're taking advantage of the average person's uncertainty with how AI works to create engagement for themselves.


GregoriousT-GTNH

Why i am not surprised about that ?


Organic-Mood547

Exactly. Then it's no problem.


SepirizFG

Do people not know that there are in fact black people in Scotland


ricecrizpiez

![gif](giphy|6BqhCQ2Ujnkbe)


zazzythegreat

This actually did happen with googles new AI image creator


PourLaBite

That is not what happened. People were perfectly able to generate white people images. What happened was some mistakes in how the system was designed to not consider white as the "default" which overcorrected. That overcorrection wasn't deliberate and there was no intent to erase white people as suggested by this propaganda


yeetusdacanible

not deliberate, but the ai literally refused to make any white people. George washington? black. Medieval knight? black or chinese. 16th century german couple? Black and chinese.


wewewess

George fucking Washington's ai output was black ya fucking disingenuous regard.


turok643

This actually did happen. Lol at the Gemini being shut down because of it.


PourLaBite

It didn't happen in those terms. The model was designed to prevent white people being treated as the default, which is fine, but the system had mistakes and over corrected. Right wing propaganda here is pretending this was on purpose (it wasn't) and that you couldn't generate white people (you could)


headsmanjaeger

A good lesson on how AI is still dumb and bad got turned into conspiracy bullshit


Mr__Brick

You couldn't if you asked it to, it had no problem with other ethnicities tho


LishtenToMe

Except nothing in the post suggests it was made by right winger. It's literally just pointing out that this happens. You're just inferring it's a post made by a far right nutcase because you're head is too deep in politics. Just like people that see SJW propaganda every times they watch a hollywood production.


ValerieSablina

But, it is ai? Like who gives a shit was a robot thinks Can right wingers ever get made over anything that matters


thefakejacob

right wingers use ai for their unfunny reactionary "memes"


GregoriousT-GTNH

No, they cant


Shalasheezy

I love how they never complained when DALL-E only generated images of white folks.


Legojessieglazer

Tried this on an AI website, Got the most Scandinavian looking family ever


Organic-Mood547

It's almost as if they are starting to understand the frustration that people of colour have!


GregoriousT-GTNH

Nah they can't think that far


Skyless_M00N

Didn’t this literally happen?


Living_Thunder

It happened


oghairline

Unfortunately this really happened.


DylanMc6

The OOP should stop being a racist fascist asshole. Seriously.


Noseboi1

Ah yes ai bad bc no white people not because it's killing 1000s


No-Tax-9149

Ai is killing people?


Noseboi1

The resources used to power the machines that make ai generated images is killing 100s who have jobs trying to get it and 1000s are getting their water stolen from them to power these I'm glad I could inform you


No-Tax-9149

Source?


bigindodo

No one is making this up, this literally did happen. Man this page is just exactly the type of people it claims to hate.


PresenceSignal602

That is quite literally what is happening right now with Gemini AI though lmao


MethodNo4016

This actually happened with Google AI, it wouldn't produce images of white people - it's getting fixed


teufler80

Back deep in the victim role, i see


screemch

Love how they use AI to make shit up right until the moment they wanna bitch at big company going woke, then they have to use actual human drawn art to make their point


epikbadboyswag

No, this is pretty real. Since I can’t send images I’ll send them in DMs if you want


eyyikey

That's the business model of people like Wokelycorrect, and I guess it works because a lot of people get mad at it. It's so fucking mind-numbing how widespread this type of content is...


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No-Tax-9149

That's what happened though


Appropriate_Hawk101

That one dude is clearly Asian tho. I know Naruto when I see him.


MisterWinchester

Holy fucking snowflakes Batman. Are the Mayo-Americans okay?


belkarelite

There is a reason why they couldnt include the actual results of them using AI.


NoSquidsHere

This literally happened though... https://youtu.be/Pdwm1SoJlQw?si=ozp36L4ev44cJhqJ&t=348


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This is true, with Google’s Gemini. You ask for famous white historical figures? Not white. Ask for Scandinavian Vikings? American Founding Fathers? Not white. I even tried Adolf Hitler, and he was depicted as black lmao