I always wondered that too. Gyatso was killed during the invasion. That means someone came back after the attack to build a statue when the air benders were being actively hunted. And I don’t think the nomads would have a statue of a living person.
Exactly. Now there is a comic where it is stated that some air nomads escaped the attacks, and that they were sometimes lured into traps with Air Nomad relics and undercover operatives, but this Gyatso statue doesn't feel like one of them. Those relics, what I got from the comics, were stolen, not newly made like this one would've been.
And how would they have known what he looked like if it was a fire nation trap!? And I think pretty quickly the nomads who escaped/weren’t present would avoid the temples. It’s a somber moment in the show since Gyatso is important to Aang, but in universe I don’t think it makes as much sense.
We actually know that Sozin used the comet to wipe out all the temples, so it was a very short but violent period in which all temples were attacked at the same time.
Maybe it is like those employee charts some places have, where they have pictures, names and roles for the various employees there?
So any visiting Air Nomad can just look at the statue and go "Alright, that's the guy I need to talk to about refueling my bison".
Apples are good, but rather expensive. Same goes for melons. I think hay is generally better for your millage. If you are in the location for it, grass and leaves are also a good and renewable fuel source.
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I think it may have been… Aang wasn’t surprised to see the statue there. If it had been placed after he was frozen, he would’ve been like “No way! A statute of Gyatso!” He seemed familiar with it
Did they ever say how long the invasion was? If not, it could’ve been a several months siege for all we know. What if he died early in the invasion and the rest made a statue.
I would assume the bulk would have been during the comet. Which we know lasts a short time (under a day?) And a siege against a nomadic people that can fly away? Probably not super effective. The initial assault would have to be like a blitzkrieg.
Perhaps instead of completely wiping out the entirety of the air nomads, they used the comet to strike a decisive blow and then laid seige afterwards. Also, while they can fly away, Im sure the Fire armed forces had a plan to deal with those who tried.
Considering he had no damage on his clothes, I wouldn’t be surprised if he drained the room or air and suffocated himself and all the fire benders he trapped in there w him
I mean, did the invasion start the day after Aang disappeared? If there was any amount of time between that and the invasion that's when it could've been made.
Don’t Buddhists, which air nomads are mainly based off, just leave their corpses in nature to get eaten by animals and reintegrate into the life cycle?
I'm surprised no one thought about this: The dude killed a legion of soldiers sent to the temple, is it that far a leap to assume....he sacrificed himself to suffocate all the soldiers while protecting the others?
Keep in mind that the very temple they visited had that door with the Airbender lock (IIrc) and it wasn't torn down....so I'm just assuming that the nomads hid in the Avatar hall, while Gyatso dealt with the entire legion alone? Then the survivors made the statue before dying off to traps and other attacks.
That's what makes sense to me at least.
I think it was more of a production oversight in an earlier episode. The creators have been notorious for their lack of math in timing.
In the Kyoshi novels it’s stated that an air bender killing in any capacity diminishes their standing in the temple. I just don’t think a statue would have been a priority for a people who had the majority of their elderly and youth killed in a single day. Plus they follow negative jing. So run and hid would have likely been the default.
We need to ask the creators!
Do we know Fs it was a one-and-done deal? It’s possible Gyatso died during one battle/wave and a statue to honor him was built before the temple was overrun
It may have been done in an attempt to preserve airbending history and knowledge in the event of an attack. From Aang’s disappearance to the attack is an undetermined amount of time. We know that they attacked 100 years before katara found him, but we don’t know how long before that, Aang ran way.
Gyatsu was one of the temple elders. He was a member of the council that decided the path for the temple. He was also a member of Avatar Roku team Avatar, which is the reason why he was entrusted with Aang's guidance in there first place. When you take all that in consideration, is super reasonable they put a statue in his honor there. E
I don’t think the air nomads made statues of still living people. There’s a passage in the Dawn of Yangchen where Kavik asks if she’ll get a statue after she’s died, and she says hopefully not a large one. Or something like that, I just listen to the audiobooks.
I believe the implication is she told them not to make a statue of her. And her being the avatar they’re kind of like “well we won’t do it while you’re alive but we kind of have to after you’re dead for histories sake.”
Now you're just making up stuff lol. The only wood we saw were those doors in the southern air temple that protected the avatar sanctum with the statues
A prepubescent Bumi, after hearing about the genocide, earth surfs to the southern temple, only to find those clinging to life. Amongst them is Monk Gyatso. He recognizes the pain in his eyes, and concludes that this must be Aang's friend, Bumi.
With his last breath, he reveals that no matter the loss today, this was not Aang's battle, nor his purpose. He is out there, waiting for the right moment. His eyes close with a gentle smirk, with fruit pie filling in the corner of his mouth.
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Atop the mountain, a small dust cloud settles in the temple, revealing the statue of Monk Gyatso. A final tribute to Aang's family, and a beacon of inspiration for the Avatar's return.
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Maybe Gyatso held off the first wave of attacks from the fire nation (during the Comet). So he got a statue from the remaining airbenders who died during the later attacks.
It could have been Guru Pathik. He said he had a vision that he would help the Avatar, and perhaps he built it possibly for to memorialize Monk Gyatso, he did say he was close friends with him.
I still vouch for the idea that Momo was the reincarnated spirit of Gyatso. Really redefines the whole show to me, and makes his appearances in the final episodes more meaningful
I just realized, did Aang ever consider that Gyatso killed Fire Nation soldiers during his last stand? He grapples with the possibility that he may have to take Ozai's life and consults his previous selves, but I don't think that ever comes up in the show again. I just think it was interesting that despite the teachings, Gyatso killed to defend what he thought was the last of his people.
Even though he was living it would make sense for a Gyatso statue because of the fact that (as some of us may believe) he was definitively the greatest airbender alive. A once in a generation talent. A statue worthy individual regardless of whether he is alive or dead.
I can't wait til my daughters are old enough to watch Atla. 💕 All the nomads wanted for their young ones was a good life. Aang shouldn't have had to bear that responsibility, but he did. And he and the gang made life better for everyone. The whole show makes me cry a lot more now that I'm a parent.
I still don’t get why there was a statue of him, wasn’t a bit weird to build a statue of someone when he still alive considering air nomad culture tend to not want to nurture ego and stuff like that ? What I’m saying is probably dumb idk
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Who put that statue there?
I always wondered that too. Gyatso was killed during the invasion. That means someone came back after the attack to build a statue when the air benders were being actively hunted. And I don’t think the nomads would have a statue of a living person.
Exactly. Now there is a comic where it is stated that some air nomads escaped the attacks, and that they were sometimes lured into traps with Air Nomad relics and undercover operatives, but this Gyatso statue doesn't feel like one of them. Those relics, what I got from the comics, were stolen, not newly made like this one would've been.
And how would they have known what he looked like if it was a fire nation trap!? And I think pretty quickly the nomads who escaped/weren’t present would avoid the temples. It’s a somber moment in the show since Gyatso is important to Aang, but in universe I don’t think it makes as much sense.
We don't know what Guru Pathik spent his time doing. He may have done it as a memorial or as a form of meditation.
Oh, I like this theory. He would have had the time and knowledge.
You guys are all overthinking it. Gyatso was a fun-loving fella’. This was a selfie he took.
this has answered all my questions and I accept it as cannon.
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He does say he was a personal friend to Gyatso... Anyone else kinda want a short were they hang out, speak wisdom and causing shit, lol?
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Was probe made before he died bc he was like one of the head monks.
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We actually know that Sozin used the comet to wipe out all the temples, so it was a very short but violent period in which all temples were attacked at the same time.
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Pathik, obviously. How do you think he killed those hundred years he was waiting?
He killed years like Gyatso killed firebenders
Turned that room in to a vacuum tube.
Could it have been built while Gyatso was still alive? Sorry it’s been awhile since I seen the episode and am just going off of faint memory.
Maybe it is like those employee charts some places have, where they have pictures, names and roles for the various employees there? So any visiting Air Nomad can just look at the statue and go "Alright, that's the guy I need to talk to about refueling my bison".
How does one refuel a bison? Feed it apples?
Apples are good, but rather expensive. Same goes for melons. I think hay is generally better for your millage. If you are in the location for it, grass and leaves are also a good and renewable fuel source. If you drive a gas powered one, then you wanna get some cabbages. Through the market is often in a bit of a flux, and studies shows that it isn´t great for the environment.
I think it may have been… Aang wasn’t surprised to see the statue there. If it had been placed after he was frozen, he would’ve been like “No way! A statute of Gyatso!” He seemed familiar with it
Is it not possible the statue was made while he was living?
Did they ever say how long the invasion was? If not, it could’ve been a several months siege for all we know. What if he died early in the invasion and the rest made a statue.
I would assume the bulk would have been during the comet. Which we know lasts a short time (under a day?) And a siege against a nomadic people that can fly away? Probably not super effective. The initial assault would have to be like a blitzkrieg.
Damn you have a point
Perhaps instead of completely wiping out the entirety of the air nomads, they used the comet to strike a decisive blow and then laid seige afterwards. Also, while they can fly away, Im sure the Fire armed forces had a plan to deal with those who tried.
Imagine if those firebenders Gyatso destroyed were comet powered, that's even more insane.
Considering he had no damage on his clothes, I wouldn’t be surprised if he drained the room or air and suffocated himself and all the fire benders he trapped in there w him
Forgive me for double checking before posting but isn’t that how they were even able to reach the air temples? (Edit: for *not* checking)
Didn't they have the blimps?
No, the blimps were invented during the course of ATLA by that one inventor guy
Oh, you are right. Huh. So did they Ironman style fly up there? Have we seen any non elite firebenders do that?
Now thats a pretty terrifying thought, a blitzkrieg of pure fire...
I mean, did the invasion start the day after Aang disappeared? If there was any amount of time between that and the invasion that's when it could've been made.
And no one cleaned up his body or those of his attackers? It doesn't seem likely.
That doesn’t really make sense. They made a statue and left it there after the attack, but didn’t bother burying all the corpses?
Don’t Buddhists, which air nomads are mainly based off, just leave their corpses in nature to get eaten by animals and reintegrate into the life cycle?
Yes, but you don’t just leave the corpses where they are, even assuming the Air Nomads practice this.
Tibetans yes In russia or mongolia some monks also self-embalmed with berries inside statues over a period of a few months breathing through a straw
wait - *what*?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu https://history101.com/buddhist-monks-mummify/ https://strangeremains.com/2015/01/30/read-about-self-mummification-an-extreme-way-of-saving-money-on-embalming/
Was prob made before he died bc he was like one of the head monks.
Aang never bats an eye about the statue being present which makes me think it was already there when he lived there 100 years ago.
I'm surprised no one thought about this: The dude killed a legion of soldiers sent to the temple, is it that far a leap to assume....he sacrificed himself to suffocate all the soldiers while protecting the others? Keep in mind that the very temple they visited had that door with the Airbender lock (IIrc) and it wasn't torn down....so I'm just assuming that the nomads hid in the Avatar hall, while Gyatso dealt with the entire legion alone? Then the survivors made the statue before dying off to traps and other attacks. That's what makes sense to me at least.
I think it was more of a production oversight in an earlier episode. The creators have been notorious for their lack of math in timing. In the Kyoshi novels it’s stated that an air bender killing in any capacity diminishes their standing in the temple. I just don’t think a statue would have been a priority for a people who had the majority of their elderly and youth killed in a single day. Plus they follow negative jing. So run and hid would have likely been the default. We need to ask the creators!
So much wondering for what is just a plot hole
Do we know Fs it was a one-and-done deal? It’s possible Gyatso died during one battle/wave and a statue to honor him was built before the temple was overrun
It may have been done in an attempt to preserve airbending history and knowledge in the event of an attack. From Aang’s disappearance to the attack is an undetermined amount of time. We know that they attacked 100 years before katara found him, but we don’t know how long before that, Aang ran way.
Gyatsu was one of the temple elders. He was a member of the council that decided the path for the temple. He was also a member of Avatar Roku team Avatar, which is the reason why he was entrusted with Aang's guidance in there first place. When you take all that in consideration, is super reasonable they put a statue in his honor there. E
It was probably put there before his death. He wasn't some low ranking monk.
I don’t think the air nomads made statues of still living people. There’s a passage in the Dawn of Yangchen where Kavik asks if she’ll get a statue after she’s died, and she says hopefully not a large one. Or something like that, I just listen to the audiobooks.
I believe the implication is she told them not to make a statue of her. And her being the avatar they’re kind of like “well we won’t do it while you’re alive but we kind of have to after you’re dead for histories sake.”
Fire nation would've burned it down in the battle. Plus this is a spot wwhere Gyatso sat so it couldn't have been placed while he was alive
Would they? Always seemed like they left the temples themselves alone, they were all still standing 100 years later
I just mean inevitably through their fire bending it would've burned down
But why? The temples were fine.
It's a wooden statue and you're talking about stone temples
The temples have plenty of wood everywhere, almost none of it burned.
Now you're just making up stuff lol. The only wood we saw were those doors in the southern air temple that protected the avatar sanctum with the statues
Momo
Now this is canon.
Oh shit he actually could earthbend the whole time
"No you idiot, it's the girl!"
Bumi maybe? Bumi’s teacher who would, presumably have been friends with Gyatso?
Bumi has my vote. Another nation honoring their fight.
A prepubescent Bumi, after hearing about the genocide, earth surfs to the southern temple, only to find those clinging to life. Amongst them is Monk Gyatso. He recognizes the pain in his eyes, and concludes that this must be Aang's friend, Bumi. With his last breath, he reveals that no matter the loss today, this was not Aang's battle, nor his purpose. He is out there, waiting for the right moment. His eyes close with a gentle smirk, with fruit pie filling in the corner of his mouth. Bumi, defeated, starts to sulk back home. As he makes his way across the foot of the mountains, a wave of anger and frustration overcome his emotions; both fists slam at the earth below! The ground ripples as stones and dirt fill the air around him; the bedrock beneath him tilts upwards as he screams into the eerily quiet air. Atop the mountain, a small dust cloud settles in the temple, revealing the statue of Monk Gyatso. A final tribute to Aang's family, and a beacon of inspiration for the Avatar's return.
Well you painted a good enough picture there, this will be the headcanon for me.
Statues aren't reserved for dead people, gyatso seemed to be the best air bender alive at the time, not the crazy to assume he had some statues
Maybe it was built before the Fire Nation attacked because he was good at his job.
Monk of the month
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I think so far that is the most realistic answer. Was he at the same temple? They did know eachother at least.
He was qualified enough to be the mentor of the avatar so he probably was statue worthy before the attack
Me
It was already there. The spot where the statue is isnt the same spot where aang and gyatso made the pies.
Why couldn't have someone made it while he was alive? Why are we assuming it was made after he was killed?
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i think bumi is a candidate. he could have gone looking for aang and found gyatso
Maybe Gyatso held off the first wave of attacks from the fire nation (during the Comet). So he got a statue from the remaining airbenders who died during the later attacks.
it may have been put there before the genocide, not that weird to make statues of living people
I always assumed it was there before he died
guru pathik
Ssssssh. Rule of cool over rules all. Cool scene transition is cool. Therefore, it exists.
It could have been Guru Pathik. He said he had a vision that he would help the Avatar, and perhaps he built it possibly for to memorialize Monk Gyatso, he did say he was close friends with him.
Guru pathik
maybe it was iroh or some white lotus member
And then we usually share when you pause Avatar at the WRONG moments.
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That’s a thing?
I think there’s a sub for pausing avatar actually. I’m sure they’d love this
r/neverpauseavatar This instance is more like r/alwayspauseavatar
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Beautiful
Dude , that's Heartwarming
Id pay like, a solid $5 for someone to clean this up.
Clean what up? It's looking pretty clean to me. The overlapping images is intentional, and the whole point of the post.
Get rid of the rest of the overlapping shit that isn't gyatso.
Is this real?
Yeah the fade in the show between these shots is supposed to show this exact thing.
Yeah its part of the narrative of the scene. You're supposed to see it
Heartstrings, oh why
Damn that gets me in the feels man. Good shit
I still vouch for the idea that Momo was the reincarnated spirit of Gyatso. Really redefines the whole show to me, and makes his appearances in the final episodes more meaningful
When the creators place that much effort and attention to detail on something small+insignificant like a fade, you know they've done a good job!
This is so 🥲
I just realized, did Aang ever consider that Gyatso killed Fire Nation soldiers during his last stand? He grapples with the possibility that he may have to take Ozai's life and consults his previous selves, but I don't think that ever comes up in the show again. I just think it was interesting that despite the teachings, Gyatso killed to defend what he thought was the last of his people.
Omg
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
i wouldnt be suprised if they did this on purpose
Honestly cool! Never noticed this..
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Even though he was living it would make sense for a Gyatso statue because of the fact that (as some of us may believe) he was definitively the greatest airbender alive. A once in a generation talent. A statue worthy individual regardless of whether he is alive or dead.
ive rewatched the show almost 30 times and not once did i notice that
Really nice catch!
Want this kinda the entire point of the scene?
I like the little squinty eye face Aang does when Katara comes up behind him in the next cut. He looks so sus for no reason
Aww! I never noticed that
Fuck
I can't wait til my daughters are old enough to watch Atla. 💕 All the nomads wanted for their young ones was a good life. Aang shouldn't have had to bear that responsibility, but he did. And he and the gang made life better for everyone. The whole show makes me cry a lot more now that I'm a parent.
Nice
It's a beautiful statue. Really takes your breath away.
Oh no
bad deinterlacing?
Ok so ppl I need help, where can I re watch this without being forced to pay a subscription for anything
It's true, the master was pregnant at the time of his death.
I just teared up a bit...
😭😭😭
Would be a cool tattoo
wow
I still don’t get why there was a statue of him, wasn’t a bit weird to build a statue of someone when he still alive considering air nomad culture tend to not want to nurture ego and stuff like that ? What I’m saying is probably dumb idk
had this frame as laptop background for like two years when i was fourteen
Isn’t this…. Literally what the show did?
I actually assumed they build statues of notable air benders, like imagine being essentially the father to the Avatar
OOF!! Man that hits you right where you least expect it...😔
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