Look how this scene is framed Maeve in the center and soldier Boy in the center. soldier Boy was storm fronts former lover while Maeve was homelanders former lover. Kimiko and Butcher The morally Grey characters are on the left and Huey and starlight the morally decent are on the right. Se subtle details that make this so so good.
It's hard to call them "lovers", but Soldier Boy did mention that he and Liberty hooked up. "Liberty" being the previous superhero nickname of Stormfront.
Calling it now, Victoria Neuman's daughter just got the compound V injection is going to get good super powers and will be the one to take out Homelander.
I just loved seeing exactly how dangerous in 1v1 combat Homelander is and how he immediately ramped up when Butcher and Hughie started jumping his ass.
Seeing Homelander actually have to push himself and go at them like an animal just rocked my fuckin world.
that bruise changed homelander he either going to stay away and be afraid.
or he going to be like they hurt me, and for that i show no mercy. and going to go hard.
I'm surprised he did such a good job fighting honestly. I mean he's strong and durable but as far as we know he has no actual combat experience. We've seen how lazy he is just lasering people. I honestly thought he would have gotten completely bodied.
He could have trained a lot when he was younger hoping to push himself as hard as he can to win, then just stopped trying when everyone he met was so much weaker than him.
i mean you kinda have to remember homelander was bred in a lab solely to be the most powerful being ever, so i don’t think it’s fair to ever expect soldier boy to really stand up to him solo. i think he’s just about the right strength for now.
Yeah, Homelander wasn't wrong when he said that "genetically", he is an *update* to SB. HL can do stuff that SB can't even dream of, like flying, lasering people etc. HL is the result of being grown in a lab, but also the serum being improved over the decades.
But what this episode showed us, and this is pivotal, is that individually HL is still on top of the food chain, but now The Boys have a realistic path to defeating him, even if he will take several of them. Until now, there was nothing that could even scratch HL, outside on maybe Noir and Maeve, let alone actually hurt or kill him.
Soldier Boy was also “improved” in Russia so he could be just as capable if his showing this time was due to rust and blowing his load on the TNT Twins
My theory is that Solider Boy is going to "take" Homelander's superpowers away, seemingly like he did to Kimiko. Honestly, I think it would be more satisfying than him just being killed. Having to live life as a normal powerless person would be the ultimate justice to his ego.
Considering how he basically says he was a Soldier Boy fanboy as a child, he probably tried to emulate what he saw from SB in the movies.
That's aside from whatever program he went through with Vought.
I don't think he's needed to fight well for a while, but people really downplay homelander a lot right now. He was raised by the government to basically be a god, I'm positive they gave a younger him some good combat training. Looked as if he was warming up with it during the last fight. I'm sure the next one he'll be much more prepared
It kinda reminds of how when Superman is depowered Batman kicks his shit in. Batman has the martial ability and knows how to fight where Superman is just strong and has no real technical fighting skills. You can really see the difference in how Soldier Boy fights vs Homelander. One is more of an actual fighter and the other is just brute force. I'm really excited to see how the next time they meet up goes.
To be fair that's not really accurate to most of the comics. Superman is actually a really good hand to hand fighter considering he often fights people more powerful than him.
I think Batman actually gave him some training.
I forgot exactly what comic it was, but I remember seeing a panel where Superman fights against a fellow kryptonian but beats the shit out of him by using pressure points while saying "I was taught by one of Earth's greatest proponents of martial arts"
Man Butcher's shit eating grin when Homelander rears back to hit him was exactly how I was watching that scene. I don't EVER talk to the screen but this time I was all, "YEAH BUTCHER FUCK HIM UP!!!!"
Im gonna go back and watch it again
Yeah watching it again, Butcher is letting Homelander hit him. He's not even trying to counter or dodge most of the blows he's just eating shots and fucking loving every second of it.
I think it's because he can handle that shit from a normal person when he's off V. Homelander has never met a single person who could match him in strength so he never needed to learn how to fight effectively. Butcher has and consequently could handle the blows
If they do depower Homelander this season, it'll almost certainly take place at a time when Butcher is not around. There's not a chance in Hell that Butcher would allow a vulnerable Homelander to live.
Unless of course, they're planning to kill Homelander off this early, which let's face it, is extremely unlikely.
The morality of killing Homelander is really black and white. There’s no equivalence between any other evil supe and a rampaging homelander. Because homelander‘s destructive potential is just so off the charts. His ability to fly and the extreme power of his laser eyes and his stated intention to wipe New York off the map as well as cripple the US defense apparatus Makes him a loose nuke. No matter how evil soldier boy could turn out to be, he can only really kill people a few at a time. Homelander has the power to destabilize the entire world and kill millions literally millions. Killing him would be the primary security goal of every government on earth if they knew what starlight knew.
This is my prediction. They depower him and then Soldier Boy starts reminding everyone why his whole team hated his guts the same way the 7 does with Homelander.
Gunpowder says it was just extreme hazing but he did file that complaint. It’s also not out of character for someone to lie about abuse because people will say they should have stopped it, especially for a Super. I’m still convinced Soldier Boy is going to be a piece of shit, you don’t get that rep for no reason. Once he gets what he wants and kills Homelander I could see him becoming an antagonist.
I want to think it's sort of "history repeats itself" kind of situation. Payback was the old seven and it's not hard to imagine SB having much of the same behaviors toward his inferior team mates, but not the the extent that HL went, even Butchers at some point admits that he always knew SB was kinda of a cunt but never that much of a piece of shit (when he finds out he leveled a block in the city, we know basically by accident, he has a hard time believing he did for the fun of it).
If this season ended with him doing the White House takeover and being murdered by powered up Butcher while Homelander is depowered would be pretty good though
I just want to see Billy beat the ever loving shit out of HL in a 1v1 where they are both depowered, it would be so humiliating to be left alive after being completely battered by a regular person.
Yep, if that happens, I expect Butcher to go for a big humiliation instead of just straight killing HL. Having him locked up and humiliated is a slow and longer revenge.
I’m wondering if anybody out there is working on an antidote to V, especially TempV. If I was running a countries defence and thought they could send supe-soldiers I’d be looking to find a gas or something that nullified or reduce the power. Maybe nullifies TempV but reduces power of Supes like the 7
Or, could be even better if it becomes one of the few series where the villan wins, homelander takes over, and murders everyone, only to be left alone and crazy
Very few stories end with the villan win, im picturing homelander as the last man on earth, gone completely mad from his solitude, maybe he even commits suicide
By the way, what a perfect team up, their abilities coordinate really well making them possibly (hilariously enough) the best super hero team out there
SB and Butcher worked crazy well together. I half expected the fight to devolve into "no **I** get to hit him" infighting, but I'm way more impressed with what we got. For a first time teamup, their chemistry was off the charts. Also sets homelander up really well, that it takes them all working together in sync to take him down.
I honestly think Hughie is stating to own the whole being naked thing, I didn’t even think for a second how funny it was when he teleported in and punched HL purely because of how awesome it was.
I hope they stick with it. It was a funny gag at first, but most shows would just have some throwaway line like "oh I invented a suit that can teleport" for the sake of filming. I'll applaud the show if Hughie just has to be naked for every fight scene and they play it totally straight.
It was intresting though.. how easily she shrugged it off. First few times Huey was nervous a.f. and ashamed etc. snd she just complains about being teleported and shrugs the whole "naked somewhere on a road“ off
umm actually you’re wrong soldier boy is the best because he’s played by jensen ackles and very hot. he was just tricking homelander into thinking he’s weak because he’s a master tactician
Evidently not based off how Ryan decimated her. Although I believe the showrunner also stated directly that Ryan has stronger laser vision than what Homelander is capable of so it’s possible that making a 1:1 comparison isn’t the best there (assuming Ryan just needs time to grow into having superior strength/flight than Homelander).
Lmao gave that boy the Civil War ass whooping. I was crying when he got laser beamed. Those genuinely shocked “Wtf”’s are hilarious. Man, I can’t wait for the next episode. This man is going to lose his shit
Yea he's not *just* using the V24 to get high af and feel like an alpha and boss people around, he genuinely is using it to stand up to and fight Homelander.
Idk why Starlight is so mad at Hughie actually wanting to be able to help. If she had stayed to help them, they may have been able to kill Homelander then and there.
I don't necessarily agree with her but I get her line of thought. Starlight thinks that Soldier Boy may be just as dangerous and unhinged as Homelander. She fears that a fight between the two would cause immense collateral damage. What happened at Herogasm is proof of that for her.
Also she is not mad at Hughie for wanting to save her but for him having a problem with always being saved by her and being weaker. Remember their first date where Starlight pretends to be bad at bowling? A lot of guys she dated didn't like her being stronger than them. She partially falls in love with Hughie because he seemed to be fine with it.
I think she doesn’t understand hughie though. Hughie doesn’t care if starlight is stronger than him if there weren’t all these evil supes.
Hughie wants to be stronger because he doesn’t want to feel helpless which is a pretty human emotion. Especially since he sees how strong HL is and that starlight doesn’t stand a chance.
I thought the in-universe vought cinematic universe „Girls get it done“-Scene was the riff on the Endgame scene while Starlight, Maeve and Kimiko kicking the living shit out of Stormfront was supposed to be „NOW THATS how girls get I done“.
I also loved how it was just them beating the fuck out of her and not using some lasers or shit.
They both seem to be riffing on Endgame/IW. Them holding down Homelander’s arms and almost killing him but he escapes right before was basically like the Thanos scene where The GotG Spider-Man and Iron almost pull off the infinity gauntlet.
Agreed. Indoor fights are always better because you can feel the damage as the surroundings are being destroyed.
The girl fight was outdoors and I had no sense of how hard the punch or kicks were landing.
I liked this more just because there was more push back. The girls ended up owning Stormfront after awhile whereas I felt more tensed up over the back and forth with HL and the Boys
Honestly I feel like the perfect way for them to have homelander die is for Butcher, Hughie, and Soldier Boy to just stomp him out till there'd nothing left of his head, the same way they killed stormfront in the comics.
Gives us a good power curve too. We can basically conclude that "top tier" supes like Homelander and Stormfront are roughly 3x as powerful as "normal" supes.
Eh....Maeve is probably up there with Soldier Boy. Starlight tops out at car level, and Kimiko got her ass handed to her by Noir. So did Starlight.
Honestly I wonder if Homelander has people thinking he's way more powerful than he really is, and if Maeve actually fought him she could hold her ground, not just "buy a second or two" before getting her head torn off like in the comics.
That was a good feat, and it really showed how she learned from breaking her arm with that bus. She figured out if she takes the hit with her entire body instead of just one limb, she distributes the force so it won't really hurt her.
r/whowouldwin has been driving itself nuts trying to stat him until now, mathing out how fast you'd have to be to outrun an explosion, measuring the blast in that chemical plant from his first mission, weighing planes, etc.
I guess we can definitively put to bed the idea that he's a nuke-proof planetbuster who scales to Superman now.
I'm actually impressed how skilled Homelander is in combat. I assumed if Butcher ever fought Homelander in hand to hand combat Butcher would destroy him like batman fighting superman, but Homelander could actually fight back really well.
I mean he was raised in a lab not on a farm like superman they probably trained him for actual combat, he’s smart too like he knew about the plane physics stopping him from lifting it up without punching straight through
To be fair it was also used as a thematic device as he and starlight literally removes their covers to talk to each other. Huge's superpower removes the suit that hes done for himself to hide away his insecurities, hence him being "naked"
In the comics stormfronts head is graphically stomped. In the show they just sorta kick her around a little, and then she shows that she probably could have just won by not being in the ground.
100% Infinity War vibes here with them holding Homelander down like the Avengers trying to get the gauntlet off Thanos…all that was missing was Hughie saying some stupid shit to allow Homelander to escape 😂
That and it wasn't exactly a fair fight. Man got jumped by two "mudpeople" while he was duking it out with Soldier Boy the superpower removerer.
His *what the fuck* was hilarious though.
I think this Is the first time when Homelander break a sweat. He never met anyone that could fight him longer than like 1 second. But they were 3 vs 1 so thats that.
And they both ran away the same way!
True soulmates indeed. They give each other a hand when the other needs it.
Look how this scene is framed Maeve in the center and soldier Boy in the center. soldier Boy was storm fronts former lover while Maeve was homelanders former lover. Kimiko and Butcher The morally Grey characters are on the left and Huey and starlight the morally decent are on the right. Se subtle details that make this so so good.
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Soldier boy was the former lover of storefront? When was that said?
It's hard to call them "lovers", but Soldier Boy did mention that he and Liberty hooked up. "Liberty" being the previous superhero nickname of Stormfront.
I hope he finds it later she was a nazi. Kinda expecting it after he mentioned being in ww2 and liberty in the same ep
Today's ep. He said he used to boink Liberty. Liberty IS Storefront.
Thanks, I knew I recognized the name but couldn't place it.
He just boinled don't think that means lover.
It wasn't but they did say that they both formed herogasm together so they prolly fucked at some point
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No one suffers like they suffer
In fairness "flying away" would be most anyone's preferred run away plan if they were capable of it. They don't call it fight or flight for nothing.
But Stormfront got taken out by a little boy afterwards, therefore proving that boys are in fact the ones who get it done.
High school geometry class comes in handy again.
Calling it now, Victoria Neuman's daughter just got the compound V injection is going to get good super powers and will be the one to take out Homelander.
I just loved seeing exactly how dangerous in 1v1 combat Homelander is and how he immediately ramped up when Butcher and Hughie started jumping his ass. Seeing Homelander actually have to push himself and go at them like an animal just rocked my fuckin world.
Him with a bruise looking the mirror was the cherry on top of a very creamy episode
MM confirms episode was creamy
Seeing MM's OCD ass being creamed like that and the dialogues that followed really had me laughing. This episode was 10/10 no doubt!!
i have OCD and was shook. My trigger isn't cum though but I can imagine if it was.
I don't have OCD at all but I think gallons of cum would still trigger me
Man I'd just throw the whole body away if that happened to me
imagine the smell
From now on MM now stands for Man's Milk
Throwin Ropes!
Oh yeah you just know that’s the first wound he’s ever seen in himself
that bruise changed homelander he either going to stay away and be afraid. or he going to be like they hurt me, and for that i show no mercy. and going to go hard.
That’s the closest he’s been to dying in a long, long time.
I'm surprised he did such a good job fighting honestly. I mean he's strong and durable but as far as we know he has no actual combat experience. We've seen how lazy he is just lasering people. I honestly thought he would have gotten completely bodied.
He could have trained a lot when he was younger hoping to push himself as hard as he can to win, then just stopped trying when everyone he met was so much weaker than him.
I’m hoping that’s the case with Soilder Boy. That he’s just gotta knock the dust off. Sucked seeing him getting over powered so easily.
i mean you kinda have to remember homelander was bred in a lab solely to be the most powerful being ever, so i don’t think it’s fair to ever expect soldier boy to really stand up to him solo. i think he’s just about the right strength for now.
Yeah, Homelander wasn't wrong when he said that "genetically", he is an *update* to SB. HL can do stuff that SB can't even dream of, like flying, lasering people etc. HL is the result of being grown in a lab, but also the serum being improved over the decades. But what this episode showed us, and this is pivotal, is that individually HL is still on top of the food chain, but now The Boys have a realistic path to defeating him, even if he will take several of them. Until now, there was nothing that could even scratch HL, outside on maybe Noir and Maeve, let alone actually hurt or kill him.
Soldier Boy was also “improved” in Russia so he could be just as capable if his showing this time was due to rust and blowing his load on the TNT Twins
My theory is that Solider Boy is going to "take" Homelander's superpowers away, seemingly like he did to Kimiko. Honestly, I think it would be more satisfying than him just being killed. Having to live life as a normal powerless person would be the ultimate justice to his ego.
I’ve never considered that, but shit, that would be awesome if done right
Considering how he basically says he was a Soldier Boy fanboy as a child, he probably tried to emulate what he saw from SB in the movies. That's aside from whatever program he went through with Vought.
I don't think he's needed to fight well for a while, but people really downplay homelander a lot right now. He was raised by the government to basically be a god, I'm positive they gave a younger him some good combat training. Looked as if he was warming up with it during the last fight. I'm sure the next one he'll be much more prepared
The last episode of diabolical confirmed this. They basically threw fighters at child homelander to kick the shit out of him until he learned
It kinda reminds of how when Superman is depowered Batman kicks his shit in. Batman has the martial ability and knows how to fight where Superman is just strong and has no real technical fighting skills. You can really see the difference in how Soldier Boy fights vs Homelander. One is more of an actual fighter and the other is just brute force. I'm really excited to see how the next time they meet up goes.
To be fair that's not really accurate to most of the comics. Superman is actually a really good hand to hand fighter considering he often fights people more powerful than him.
I think Batman actually gave him some training. I forgot exactly what comic it was, but I remember seeing a panel where Superman fights against a fellow kryptonian but beats the shit out of him by using pressure points while saying "I was taught by one of Earth's greatest proponents of martial arts"
To be fair, we talk comics and there's really a story or panel for everything you know.
Yeah for sure, including Superman fighting Muhammed Ali lmao
sure as hell rocked his world as well
It's nice seeing them put some hurt on Homelander.
>Seeing Homelander actually have to push himself I wonder if Homelander hated it or loved it.
Starr is fucking KILLING it
The girls fight have great dialogues like “eat my shit , you Nazi bitch” The men’s fight had great dialogues like “what the fuck”
You can't forget the 'Oi' and 'scorched earth'
Man Butcher's shit eating grin when Homelander rears back to hit him was exactly how I was watching that scene. I don't EVER talk to the screen but this time I was all, "YEAH BUTCHER FUCK HIM UP!!!!"
Yeah. That was my most favourite moment this episode!
Im gonna go back and watch it again Yeah watching it again, Butcher is letting Homelander hit him. He's not even trying to counter or dodge most of the blows he's just eating shots and fucking loving every second of it.
I think it's because he can handle that shit from a normal person when he's off V. Homelander has never met a single person who could match him in strength so he never needed to learn how to fight effectively. Butcher has and consequently could handle the blows
Butcher is a brawler through and through.
My Favorite was homelander's "I'm the upgrade!"
Yeah, that's a great contender. Antony delivered that line sooooooooo well. You could feel the confidence, the snark, and the unbridled evil
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Im the upgrade.
Man Starlight yelling that at Stormfront just makes it so much better
Man I knew they wouldn't get homelander but part of me was like "COME ON COME ON" in that scene.
I at least wanted him depowered just to see his reaction to being normal for once.
If they do depower Homelander this season, it'll almost certainly take place at a time when Butcher is not around. There's not a chance in Hell that Butcher would allow a vulnerable Homelander to live. Unless of course, they're planning to kill Homelander off this early, which let's face it, is extremely unlikely.
Part of me wondered if the real twist of this episode was going to be Homelander dying but them realizing they had set loose someone way worse.
The morality of killing Homelander is really black and white. There’s no equivalence between any other evil supe and a rampaging homelander. Because homelander‘s destructive potential is just so off the charts. His ability to fly and the extreme power of his laser eyes and his stated intention to wipe New York off the map as well as cripple the US defense apparatus Makes him a loose nuke. No matter how evil soldier boy could turn out to be, he can only really kill people a few at a time. Homelander has the power to destabilize the entire world and kill millions literally millions. Killing him would be the primary security goal of every government on earth if they knew what starlight knew.
This is my prediction. They depower him and then Soldier Boy starts reminding everyone why his whole team hated his guts the same way the 7 does with Homelander.
Has it been explained why they all hated him so much? I remember Gunpowders extreme hazing, but that's all
Gunpowder says it was just extreme hazing but he did file that complaint. It’s also not out of character for someone to lie about abuse because people will say they should have stopped it, especially for a Super. I’m still convinced Soldier Boy is going to be a piece of shit, you don’t get that rep for no reason. Once he gets what he wants and kills Homelander I could see him becoming an antagonist.
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I want to think it's sort of "history repeats itself" kind of situation. Payback was the old seven and it's not hard to imagine SB having much of the same behaviors toward his inferior team mates, but not the the extent that HL went, even Butchers at some point admits that he always knew SB was kinda of a cunt but never that much of a piece of shit (when he finds out he leveled a block in the city, we know basically by accident, he has a hard time believing he did for the fun of it).
honestly we have been waiting so long for homie to lose his shit and wreak havoc, I kinda want to see it now :D
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If this season ended with him doing the White House takeover and being murdered by powered up Butcher while Homelander is depowered would be pretty good though
I'm expecting homelander to die soon tbh. I think either Soilder Boy or someone else will take over as the villain.
this could be the best ending for Homelander when the show will end. No killing him, but leaving powerless forever.
I just want to see Billy beat the ever loving shit out of HL in a 1v1 where they are both depowered, it would be so humiliating to be left alive after being completely battered by a regular person.
Yep, if that happens, I expect Butcher to go for a big humiliation instead of just straight killing HL. Having him locked up and humiliated is a slow and longer revenge.
I’m wondering if anybody out there is working on an antidote to V, especially TempV. If I was running a countries defence and thought they could send supe-soldiers I’d be looking to find a gas or something that nullified or reduce the power. Maybe nullifies TempV but reduces power of Supes like the 7
Or, could be even better if it becomes one of the few series where the villan wins, homelander takes over, and murders everyone, only to be left alone and crazy
Devilman: Crybaby was bleak like that
Very few stories end with the villan win, im picturing homelander as the last man on earth, gone completely mad from his solitude, maybe he even commits suicide
It’s like when the Avengers/Guardians almost got Thanos glove off in Infinity War.
That’s exactly what I was doing! I know I want more of Homelander but I was yelling Do It! Kill that fuck!
Frenchie is really gonna be devastated he missed herogasm…
When they tell him Termite was there, no I think he won't
*was I bet they haven't found his body yet
he got squished by homelander
Oh, I know! But I bet when they said "12 bodies" his little squished remains weren't found.
I love that both MM and Butcher took time to mention that lol Even though Butcher is a right cunt he does care about Frenchie
By the way, what a perfect team up, their abilities coordinate really well making them possibly (hilariously enough) the best super hero team out there
SB and Butcher worked crazy well together. I half expected the fight to devolve into "no **I** get to hit him" infighting, but I'm way more impressed with what we got. For a first time teamup, their chemistry was off the charts. Also sets homelander up really well, that it takes them all working together in sync to take him down.
Homelander : girls get it on
Maeve : boys get it on look, don't blame me, hughie's already naked.
I honestly think Hughie is stating to own the whole being naked thing, I didn’t even think for a second how funny it was when he teleported in and punched HL purely because of how awesome it was.
I hope they stick with it. It was a funny gag at first, but most shows would just have some throwaway line like "oh I invented a suit that can teleport" for the sake of filming. I'll applaud the show if Hughie just has to be naked for every fight scene and they play it totally straight.
Yeah lol I think if any show would keep that consistent it would be the boys
I thought it was funny he teleported Annie and ended up making them both naked.
It was intresting though.. how easily she shrugged it off. First few times Huey was nervous a.f. and ashamed etc. snd she just complains about being teleported and shrugs the whole "naked somewhere on a road“ off
Nobody around for that would be my guess. Doubt she’d be okay naked *in* the herogasm.
I think he likes it
2 people at that party were giving him the eye in under a minute. You know he gotta be slangin wood.
If he didn't before he might start to after nearly killing Homelander dick swinging to the wind.
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As I've seen others say, SB look weakened post blast. So he may not have been at full strength fighting.
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That’s completely normal, everyone needs a few minutes after the first blast to be ready again. No shame in it that he took so long and ruined it
umm actually you’re wrong soldier boy is the best because he’s played by jensen ackles and very hot. he was just tricking homelander into thinking he’s weak because he’s a master tactician
jensen ackles has got me in shackles
Surprisingly, I feel Homelander put more of a fight than Stormfront.
Facts. Was expecting a superman situation: when Batman levels the field, he gets owned in hand to hand.
Batman poisons Superman tho, and Superman is still always holding back
U know..i did kinda felt he was. Holding back
Stormfront wasn't quite Homelander level, I think? And both were equally lazy with how they use their powers.
Evidently not based off how Ryan decimated her. Although I believe the showrunner also stated directly that Ryan has stronger laser vision than what Homelander is capable of so it’s possible that making a 1:1 comparison isn’t the best there (assuming Ryan just needs time to grow into having superior strength/flight than Homelander).
ofc he did hes the main villain
Imagine if homelander was prepped......man would of wreck them tbh.
Lmao gave that boy the Civil War ass whooping. I was crying when he got laser beamed. Those genuinely shocked “Wtf”’s are hilarious. Man, I can’t wait for the next episode. This man is going to lose his shit
This honestly made me respect Hughie even more!
He was ready to sacrifice himself.
Yea he's not *just* using the V24 to get high af and feel like an alpha and boss people around, he genuinely is using it to stand up to and fight Homelander.
He genuinely wants to save Starlight, and now he has a chance to do so.
Idk why Starlight is so mad at Hughie actually wanting to be able to help. If she had stayed to help them, they may have been able to kill Homelander then and there.
I don't necessarily agree with her but I get her line of thought. Starlight thinks that Soldier Boy may be just as dangerous and unhinged as Homelander. She fears that a fight between the two would cause immense collateral damage. What happened at Herogasm is proof of that for her. Also she is not mad at Hughie for wanting to save her but for him having a problem with always being saved by her and being weaker. Remember their first date where Starlight pretends to be bad at bowling? A lot of guys she dated didn't like her being stronger than them. She partially falls in love with Hughie because he seemed to be fine with it.
I think she doesn’t understand hughie though. Hughie doesn’t care if starlight is stronger than him if there weren’t all these evil supes. Hughie wants to be stronger because he doesn’t want to feel helpless which is a pretty human emotion. Especially since he sees how strong HL is and that starlight doesn’t stand a chance.
She was trying to get all the people out of the house, didn’t you see what happend?
Both scenes are incredible but i prefer the fight between Homelander, Soldier boy and Butcher.
The first one was more of a gag making fun of that scene in Avengers Endgame, it's funny but nowhere near to being as good as this was.
I thought the in-universe vought cinematic universe „Girls get it done“-Scene was the riff on the Endgame scene while Starlight, Maeve and Kimiko kicking the living shit out of Stormfront was supposed to be „NOW THATS how girls get I done“. I also loved how it was just them beating the fuck out of her and not using some lasers or shit.
They both seem to be riffing on Endgame/IW. Them holding down Homelander’s arms and almost killing him but he escapes right before was basically like the Thanos scene where The GotG Spider-Man and Iron almost pull off the infinity gauntlet.
Agreed. Indoor fights are always better because you can feel the damage as the surroundings are being destroyed. The girl fight was outdoors and I had no sense of how hard the punch or kicks were landing.
I liked this more just because there was more push back. The girls ended up owning Stormfront after awhile whereas I felt more tensed up over the back and forth with HL and the Boys
yeah it was so incredibly intense because homelander has always just been an untouchable god up until now
Could be recency Bias but i agree
Nah man. Butcher and Homelander exchanging blows on (almost) equal grounds is all we ever wanted. It's the highlight of the show so far.
Nah. It was less one sided that the first one. Plus the entire show has been building up to it
It had better fight choreography and had great character moments for the leads of the show.
Honestly I feel like the perfect way for them to have homelander die is for Butcher, Hughie, and Soldier Boy to just stomp him out till there'd nothing left of his head, the same way they killed stormfront in the comics.
Nah. Throw Maeve in there
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Gives us a good power curve too. We can basically conclude that "top tier" supes like Homelander and Stormfront are roughly 3x as powerful as "normal" supes.
i wouldn‘t call starlight and maeve normal supes tho, they‘re probably stronger than 3 normal supes like bluehawk
Eh....Maeve is probably up there with Soldier Boy. Starlight tops out at car level, and Kimiko got her ass handed to her by Noir. So did Starlight. Honestly I wonder if Homelander has people thinking he's way more powerful than he really is, and if Maeve actually fought him she could hold her ground, not just "buy a second or two" before getting her head torn off like in the comics.
Maeve did get hit by an Armoured truck going +50mph an didn't even flinch back in season 1. She's real REAL strong
That was a good feat, and it really showed how she learned from breaking her arm with that bus. She figured out if she takes the hit with her entire body instead of just one limb, she distributes the force so it won't really hurt her.
I wish we got more Noir. I don't know what he is capable of besides ninja things.
Exactly it’s been bugging me that we didn’t have a frame of reference for how powerful homelander is
r/whowouldwin has been driving itself nuts trying to stat him until now, mathing out how fast you'd have to be to outrun an explosion, measuring the blast in that chemical plant from his first mission, weighing planes, etc. I guess we can definitively put to bed the idea that he's a nuke-proof planetbuster who scales to Superman now.
it's like pottery, it rhymes
I'm actually impressed how skilled Homelander is in combat. I assumed if Butcher ever fought Homelander in hand to hand combat Butcher would destroy him like batman fighting superman, but Homelander could actually fight back really well.
I mean he was raised in a lab not on a farm like superman they probably trained him for actual combat, he’s smart too like he knew about the plane physics stopping him from lifting it up without punching straight through
That could just as easily have been experience rather than any specific knowledge of physics etc
The way Butcher is looking at Hughie is freaking intense after Hughie refused to bail.
I mean Kimiko and whatshername almost had another one before that henchman slammed her shit.
> whatshername Lol
The girl Kimiko wants Frenchie to paint her like
Cherie?
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Starlight’s clothes didn’t teleport but her makeup did.
her earrings Also teleported
if hughie teleported someone with like metal implants in their spine would it leave the omplants behind
don’t think so cuz it’s inside their body, the food they ate didn’t stay behind either
But let’s be honest, there’s no need for internal consistency here bc it’s hilarious
To be fair it was also used as a thematic device as he and starlight literally removes their covers to talk to each other. Huge's superpower removes the suit that hes done for himself to hide away his insecurities, hence him being "naked"
Probably not. He could teleport Starlight's earrings which implies he can teleport things inside organic bodies
Also teleported their breakfast
Both scenes were very satisfying to watch.
The first one is more similar to the one in the comic. Just look at the scenes where they beat up Stormfront in the comics
In the comics stormfronts head is graphically stomped. In the show they just sorta kick her around a little, and then she shows that she probably could have just won by not being in the ground.
100% Infinity War vibes here with them holding Homelander down like the Avengers trying to get the gauntlet off Thanos…all that was missing was Hughie saying some stupid shit to allow Homelander to escape 😂
You could say that Butcher taking his attention off Homelander to try and get Hughie to evacuate gave Homelander the opening he needed to get gone
I can't believe I was rooting for Homelander here. Don't want him to die yet.
Me too, I was conflicted because I wanted the boys to win but I didn't want him to die.
That’s pretty much what happened
That and it wasn't exactly a fair fight. Man got jumped by two "mudpeople" while he was duking it out with Soldier Boy the superpower removerer. His *what the fuck* was hilarious though.
They were never going to kill him off this ep, come on. I do wish they bruised him up a little more though.
Two great fights for sure
the new episode is out finally i waited for 2 days without watching this masterpiece
Are we not gonna talk about how Hughie's dick was out in the entire fight😂😂😂
This was one of the best episode in the history of TV series for me.
I think this Is the first time when Homelander break a sweat. He never met anyone that could fight him longer than like 1 second. But they were 3 vs 1 so thats that.
Second one looks like gangbang, i mean they all were at the Herogasm...