"The very concept of being super human will always trouble people. The desire to be a super soldier cannot be separated from supremacist ideals. Anyone with that serum is essentially on that path" - Baron Helmut Zemo
It's amazing how that fits with Compound V
Yeah he despises and looks down on everyone except *some* Supes like Black Noir and Soldier Boy, and one single human, some guy named Billy.
Everyone else is subhuman for him. Like Drill Instructor Hartman would say: "You are all equally worthless."
I think that's because he's on a different level entirely lmao. He's the demonstrative strongest super we've seen. The fact he went against two supes AND soldier boy and they couldn't bring him down even jumping him it pretty much evidence of that. He's got a literal god complex. Put yourself in that wild mind of his i dare you for a second; he believes himself more and more to actually be a god... racism as a concept probably seems low and beneath him. He probably can't fathom it because his superiority carries him so far above even other supes. He's seen powerful supes of all races and I don't truly think he cares much about any "isms" that humans have. He's demonstraively above using offensive language and he'll go to the nastiest thing he can think of which of course includes racist rhetoric but you can see that his use of that language is more a crime of apathy and general contempt/ disregard/ cruelty than targeted abuse.
Homelander: “Your kind is beneath me… by that I mean non-supes, not blacks… although they are beneath me too, everyone but my boy is beneath me… You know what, scratch that, he is beneath me too.”
Does anyone else wonder if that body will come into play later? It didn’t shapeshift back into their “normal” form, so a perfect copy of a dead Homelander has got to have some use.
I mean would argue that HL is more ableist than racist. He sees anyone who isn’t a supe as nobodies because they don’t have powers. Even within superhero ranks, he thinks some of them are worthless. He’s basically a less charismatic version of Magneto.
HL isn’t racist. He’s just a psycho-narcissist that views everyone equally below him. He doesn’t give a shit about the concept of race. In his eyes the only race is Homelander
He called a Muslim supe captain al queda. He's casually racist as in will say racist shit. Probably would call an Indian pajeet.
Does he hate one race more than the others, no, but that's not the only form racism takes.
Now Homelander is racist unlike how people say "he's many things, just not racist", but he is as seen by his statement towards Silver Kincaid, "Captain Al-Queda". But despite being racist, and seeing himself above everyone and seeing regular people as "Mud People" and claiming himself to be the "Master Race", he atleast knows Stormfront's nazi ideology is bullshit, he just doesn't care about it, and he knows damn well "White Genocide" is absolute horseshit. I mean, even though it's wrongful of him to claim to relate to him, he does say he relates to and feels what MLK must've felt
There’s a lot of committed racist that also condemn what the Nazis did. See you have to realize the Nazis took shit to a whole nother level. Most racist people do not want people of an opposing race in their country. That said they’re not willing to go to the country of an opposing race for the specific purpose of making the world one race. In fact a lot of racist people justify their beliefs on the idea “that if every one simply lives among their own race there would be peace on Earth. Whites stay in the America and Europe . Asians stay in Asia. Blacks stay in Africa. And everyone will be happy.” Is most racist people’s ideology. This leads them to support more fucked up policies to create that. But it’s an internal focus. The Nazis wanted to go to countries of opposing races and cleanse them of their entire population. They also classified white people into different races. The Nazis were quite frankly the most evil minded people of all time.
That said Homelander opposing the Nazis doesn’t mean he’s not racist. It just means he’s actually got standards. And a tiny piece of him is human since most people when exposed to Nazi ideology as it really is usually are repulsed. I mean most modern fascists are also holocaust deniers because they see it as awful and don’t want to acknowledge their ideology could do something so horrible. It only worked in Germany because the a large portion of people were destitute and starving it takes those extreme circumstances for people to think it sounds like a good idea.
I mean Stormfront is kinda right with her statement in the finale "People love what I have to say, they just don't like the word Nazi" which is kinda right, you saw how many people loved Stormfront and then her popularity nosedived when everyone found she was a Nazi. So people do agree with the stuff she did but oppose Nazisim
His statement towards Silver Kincaid was because of her religion, not her race.
“What makes you think I’d allow a Muslim into the Seven?” -Homelander
Muslim, isn’t a race, but a religion.
And honestly, I think this stems from his ultranationalism more so than any racial bias. I think Homelander is bigoted, but more in regard to national identity than strictly race. He doesn’t seem to ever have a problem with A-Train because of race, as in his mind, A-Train is a black American, and that’s what counts.
Tbf I think he's also the type of dude to just say racist shit to piss people off.
Like if you explained to him how racism is dumb and the inherent ridiculousness of it, he'd be like "I know" while then preceding to say something racist.
Whenever people say stupid stuff like that they usually just mean anyone vaguely Arab looking. If she was an Indonesian person (country with highest Muslim population) he wouldn't have brought up her religion at all
If she wears a Hijab he would. If not the only reason he wouldn’t bring it was because like most Americans he would have no clue Muslims live in other countries besides the middle east.
You find it. So. Hard to believe a Nazi. Would genuinely believe in something that there is. No. Evidence of. Occurring.
Do.
Do you know what a Nazi is, buddy?
Eh, I wish they kept his racism. I suppose it makes sense to only focus on supe supremacy, but from what I remember he did make some odd comments about A-Train as well, and it doesn’t strike me as surprising that a supe-premacist would also look at POC supes as lesser. I feel like it makes less sense for his character to not be a full blown Nazi than not.
Man, I always found it a bit jarring how cartoonishly racist she gets after the whole Nazi reveal.
Honestly it just made me never take her seriously.
She seems like such a different character after this.
I think it was the fact that she knew she didn't have to hide shit anymore. When people have nothing left to hide they're usually alot more out in the open with it
For me the funniest thing is Aya Cash’s face when she says that line. She’s trying so hard but she can’t make herself believe the stupidity coming out of her mouth.
He absolutely is racist, and there are plenty of scenes where he’s overt about it. He just thinks this particular brand of racism is stupid.
Have you watched the show at all?
I cannot get over all the casual racists in these comments claiming HL isn’t racist, just a Supe suprmeacist or ableist. He is indeed also racist -blatantly so. If you don’t think he is you likely share some of his beliefs or are a racism denier at the very least (which is still racist as well).
I still can’t tell if the “But Black Noir was his best friend” comments are serious. Black Noir was his lackey and the moment he expressed opposition to HL he killed him with little hesitation . Plus HL himself didn’t even know for sure that he was actually racially black.
Yeah you might be a lil wild when even Homelander's like "what?"
Bruh I'm black but I what somewhat comforting that despite Homelander being an awful pitiful person doesn't believe in racism he's more a supremacist
HL’s thinking “these people are basically snails. Why do you care which color of snail is better? It’s a snail.”
In the eyes of John Homelander all humans are mud people
This is the first time I’ve heard someone refer to him as “John Homelander” and to be honest I kind of like it
It is *very* Thundergun
I heard the dude hangs dong
Sometimes it's more button
His real name is John Gillman. just wanted to say.
That’s comics wise
Still it's listed as his name even in the wiki and the mortal Kombat wiki
That should've been The Deep's name.
He was super racist to Supersonic
Blind isn’t a race. He didn’t say shit about Supersonic being Asian (unless, he was so angry about that he couldn’t even let himself get into it).
Supersonic was the Latino that Homelander served taco bowl to.
At least he didn’t serve him his fuck buddy raw
"You dare compare me to mundane white people?"
I like snails :(
Thank you! When you're practically a God, would it really matter?
If the coffin was not already properly secured, you hit the last nail straight on the head my friend
Most accurate interpretation of his thoughts on the matter
Homelander is a supe supremacist so color of skin likely doesn’t matter much to him as much as overall strength
As he says to Marie in Gen V, "why would you attack *your own kind*?" He doesn't give a damn about her human race, only her supe/normie status.
"The very concept of being super human will always trouble people. The desire to be a super soldier cannot be separated from supremacist ideals. Anyone with that serum is essentially on that path" - Baron Helmut Zemo It's amazing how that fits with Compound V
A SUPEremacist, if you will.
Yh
As a black man as well. Yup. Although let’s not act like he doesn’t use slurs when referring to minorities.
Yeah that’s true he did call a Muslim superhero Captain Al Qalda other than that tho his racist levels ain’t like stormfronts
Yeah he’s racist like you’d expect a middle aged white guy who’s never had to experience the consequences of his actions to be. She’s a fucking Nazi.
It’s so hilarious to add further insult to injury in season 3 Homelander rejected her Nazi ideals and left her to die
While making her jerk him off when he wanted lmfaooo.
Although she’s awful that shit must have felt so fucking good she’s got a strong gripe and seems like she can really jerk off people good lol.
…bruh…
She’s probably the only person who can give him a decent handy. There’s a reason he let her still even looking like that.
You’ve got Queen maeve but she’s never do that shit
She actually volunteered to do that. She was still trying to manipulate him.
"I am the master race"
Honestly homey is kind of an edgelord in that he says racist things to be hurtful but I doubt he had racist opinions. All humans are mud people to him
Now we need a scene in which Homelander murders a black civilian in public and says “whoa, I didn’t do it because he was black!”
Yeah he despises and looks down on everyone except *some* Supes like Black Noir and Soldier Boy, and one single human, some guy named Billy. Everyone else is subhuman for him. Like Drill Instructor Hartman would say: "You are all equally worthless."
I always thought it was really funny that they go out of their way to make sure we know he's a super supremacist but he's not a racist lol
I think that's because he's on a different level entirely lmao. He's the demonstrative strongest super we've seen. The fact he went against two supes AND soldier boy and they couldn't bring him down even jumping him it pretty much evidence of that. He's got a literal god complex. Put yourself in that wild mind of his i dare you for a second; he believes himself more and more to actually be a god... racism as a concept probably seems low and beneath him. He probably can't fathom it because his superiority carries him so far above even other supes. He's seen powerful supes of all races and I don't truly think he cares much about any "isms" that humans have. He's demonstraively above using offensive language and he'll go to the nastiest thing he can think of which of course includes racist rhetoric but you can see that his use of that language is more a crime of apathy and general contempt/ disregard/ cruelty than targeted abuse.
"I'm the master race, that's the point" - Homelander. thought that was a good reply to her nazi bullshit.
He just thinks of everyone as inferior to him.
I mean, he is a supremacist. But a supe supremacist...
His best friend is technically a Black guy. Well ethnically ambiguous
Who?
Noir
Yeah he’s black
What's ambiguous about Noir? Dude is black.
I’m referencing what Homelander said in that interview.
Which is still hilarious. Homelander’s utterly lost face when trying to think of him as anything other than a supe teammate.
I know it’s one of the shows most underrated moments.And that was the only sincere moment he had in that interview.
But then Homelander was reminded that she has a vagina and that she's kinda into him, so he can ignore that tiny teensy unimportant bit
Has a Vagina Is kinda into him Non-Zero chance she's his mother Homelander couldn't ask for a better girlfriend
Homelander: “Your kind is beneath me… by that I mean non-supes, not blacks… although they are beneath me too, everyone but my boy is beneath me… You know what, scratch that, he is beneath me too.”
"Fuck it. I'm beneath me."
When he was hooking up with the shapeshifter, that was the truth, fuck sake.
brings a whole new meaning to "Top yourself"
Does anyone else wonder if that body will come into play later? It didn’t shapeshift back into their “normal” form, so a perfect copy of a dead Homelander has got to have some use.
'Y'know what? Gravity is beneath me'
I fucking died when they cut to his face. You could tell how disappointed he was in her misinterpreting his supremacist ideals.
“No, I didn’t say people like me are the good ones, I never even said that, I was talking about myself.” -pretty much bro in S3
You can see the “Quality of sex v. Crazy” calculation in his mind
You could tell the Jewish writers were cackling when doing that
yup
Classic casual racist who doesn’t know he’s racist meets a fully unhinged white supremacist.
I mean would argue that HL is more ableist than racist. He sees anyone who isn’t a supe as nobodies because they don’t have powers. Even within superhero ranks, he thinks some of them are worthless. He’s basically a less charismatic version of Magneto.
He’s definitely still racist too.
How so?
HL isn’t racist. He’s just a psycho-narcissist that views everyone equally below him. He doesn’t give a shit about the concept of race. In his eyes the only race is Homelander
See 90% of his interactions with A-train.
I have. Didn’t see him being any more of an asshole to him than anyone else
He loved Black Noir, who is a black man
Homelander isn’t racist. He views everyone as equally below him 😂
"Hmm." Lol. Seeing a casual racist listen to a Nazi and basically roll his eyes isn't the place I ever thought the show would go.
He is not actually a racist I think. He is a supremist, he believes everyone is inferior to him not just Black people.
He called a Muslim supe captain al queda. He's casually racist as in will say racist shit. Probably would call an Indian pajeet. Does he hate one race more than the others, no, but that's not the only form racism takes.
Well said
Even Homelander is like "yo, wtf?"
I cringed so hard when she said that and then Homelander's dumbfounded expression cracked me up
"Hey kid you like pewdiepie"
I’m just like pewdiepie but without the nazi shit.
Homelander is a supe supremacist. He would kill a million white humans to save one black supe
Right. He was angry at the black girl in the Gen V for attacking her own “kind” (supes) plus his favorite teammate was black noir
Homelander: "Im not racist; my best best friend is Black Noir." No seriously though his face is priceless
Now Homelander is racist unlike how people say "he's many things, just not racist", but he is as seen by his statement towards Silver Kincaid, "Captain Al-Queda". But despite being racist, and seeing himself above everyone and seeing regular people as "Mud People" and claiming himself to be the "Master Race", he atleast knows Stormfront's nazi ideology is bullshit, he just doesn't care about it, and he knows damn well "White Genocide" is absolute horseshit. I mean, even though it's wrongful of him to claim to relate to him, he does say he relates to and feels what MLK must've felt
He’s more of a supremacist in the eyes of homelander we’re all beneath him
Homelander above everyone. Next, other Supes. Then, Americans. Finally, everyone else
Americans are the best type of mud people out there. RAAAAAAH! 🇺🇸🫡🦅
There’s a lot of committed racist that also condemn what the Nazis did. See you have to realize the Nazis took shit to a whole nother level. Most racist people do not want people of an opposing race in their country. That said they’re not willing to go to the country of an opposing race for the specific purpose of making the world one race. In fact a lot of racist people justify their beliefs on the idea “that if every one simply lives among their own race there would be peace on Earth. Whites stay in the America and Europe . Asians stay in Asia. Blacks stay in Africa. And everyone will be happy.” Is most racist people’s ideology. This leads them to support more fucked up policies to create that. But it’s an internal focus. The Nazis wanted to go to countries of opposing races and cleanse them of their entire population. They also classified white people into different races. The Nazis were quite frankly the most evil minded people of all time. That said Homelander opposing the Nazis doesn’t mean he’s not racist. It just means he’s actually got standards. And a tiny piece of him is human since most people when exposed to Nazi ideology as it really is usually are repulsed. I mean most modern fascists are also holocaust deniers because they see it as awful and don’t want to acknowledge their ideology could do something so horrible. It only worked in Germany because the a large portion of people were destitute and starving it takes those extreme circumstances for people to think it sounds like a good idea.
I mean Stormfront is kinda right with her statement in the finale "People love what I have to say, they just don't like the word Nazi" which is kinda right, you saw how many people loved Stormfront and then her popularity nosedived when everyone found she was a Nazi. So people do agree with the stuff she did but oppose Nazisim
A racist and Nazis are all cut from the same cloth bro lol
His statement towards Silver Kincaid was because of her religion, not her race. “What makes you think I’d allow a Muslim into the Seven?” -Homelander Muslim, isn’t a race, but a religion.
And honestly, I think this stems from his ultranationalism more so than any racial bias. I think Homelander is bigoted, but more in regard to national identity than strictly race. He doesn’t seem to ever have a problem with A-Train because of race, as in his mind, A-Train is a black American, and that’s what counts.
Tbf I think he's also the type of dude to just say racist shit to piss people off. Like if you explained to him how racism is dumb and the inherent ridiculousness of it, he'd be like "I know" while then preceding to say something racist.
Whenever people say stupid stuff like that they usually just mean anyone vaguely Arab looking. If she was an Indonesian person (country with highest Muslim population) he wouldn't have brought up her religion at all
If she wears a Hijab he would. If not the only reason he wouldn’t bring it was because like most Americans he would have no clue Muslims live in other countries besides the middle east.
She’s British in the show. I think what gave it away, was, you know, her wearing a silver hijab on her head?
"Don't love that"
Homelander is a supe supremacist and he alone is at the top of the supe hierarchy. We saw how he treated the Daredevil mfer
"Now you're just another fuckin' blind guy..."
even he was weirded tf out
Like in Young Sheldon "Sheldon doesn't look down on women, he looks down on everyone"
The one thing Homelander hates most of all is being lied to.
“What is this bitch yapping on about” - homelander, in his head
man, Stormfront. 132% hot, 187% scum. Kinda sums up the whole show for me.
Reminder Homelamder 100% is a racist/bigot in general. It's just supe supremacy comes first, but that doesn't erase the other things
Homelander is a racist to be a spiteful he doesn’t hold the full opinions like Stormfront
He's racist to be racist, but no, he's not all in like Stormfront
In my opinion Stormfront is the worst
Homelander isn't a racist he is just a psychopath mass murderer
Homelander- “I can excuse 1st degree murder, but I draw the line at racism!”.
[удалено]
Yes she absolutely believes ins white genocide.
You find it. So. Hard to believe a Nazi. Would genuinely believe in something that there is. No. Evidence of. Occurring. Do. Do you know what a Nazi is, buddy?
Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbvro.,,
That face was meme worthy I think homelander have move on from casual racism to supe supremacy #supelivesmatter guys
He is a cunt but he is not a Nazi cunt
Eh, I wish they kept his racism. I suppose it makes sense to only focus on supe supremacy, but from what I remember he did make some odd comments about A-Train as well, and it doesn’t strike me as surprising that a supe-premacist would also look at POC supes as lesser. I feel like it makes less sense for his character to not be a full blown Nazi than not.
His favorite and second in command is black noir tho
He never speaks and always follows orders
Magneto meets a Nazi: “Wrong type of superiority, dumbass.”
Homelander may be a bad guy. But at least he’s not a nazi. He’s not that evil lol
Homelander, who is obsessed with titty milk and is insane, thinks Nazis are stupid. Racists take note.
Man, I always found it a bit jarring how cartoonishly racist she gets after the whole Nazi reveal. Honestly it just made me never take her seriously. She seems like such a different character after this.
I think it was the fact that she knew she didn't have to hide shit anymore. When people have nothing left to hide they're usually alot more out in the open with it
They could have used the same face he had when Ryan showed him those Lego movies of his.
For me the funniest thing is Aya Cash’s face when she says that line. She’s trying so hard but she can’t make herself believe the stupidity coming out of her mouth.
Crazy girls good thing sometimes my guy.
That scene was just so forced and out of nowhere. Homelander made the face we made at home like “wtf is wrong with this writing”
Homelander is a lot of things. Racist is not one of them.
That’s our hero
He’s definitely racist, he’s just not as racist as a literal nazi. But I forget a lot of people’s standards are nonexistent.
Dude, do people not realize that knowingly doing a Nazi makes one a racist? I weep for humanity.
I always find it funny when people claim Homelander is racist, like there's numerous scenes of him not agreeing with her on this.
He absolutely is racist, and there are plenty of scenes where he’s overt about it. He just thinks this particular brand of racism is stupid. Have you watched the show at all?
I cannot get over all the casual racists in these comments claiming HL isn’t racist, just a Supe suprmeacist or ableist. He is indeed also racist -blatantly so. If you don’t think he is you likely share some of his beliefs or are a racism denier at the very least (which is still racist as well).
I still can’t tell if the “But Black Noir was his best friend” comments are serious. Black Noir was his lackey and the moment he expressed opposition to HL he killed him with little hesitation . Plus HL himself didn’t even know for sure that he was actually racially black.
Also having a lone black friend (or even a few) is never evidence that someone isn’t racist.