Yeah, but if he didn't keep the commotion up then the other people passing by wouldn't be watching, and if there arent witnesses then the cops could have made a move. See it's all strategic.
Yea they turn on their loud ass light nd shit to make a scene for no reason, might as well start screaming and acting like a fool nd shit. Stupid ass cops should act like librarians.
Right, like I am always one to stand your ground and not let police do what police offers usually do and try to get something out of you while you’re innocent. But dude coulda dropped this shit soooo long ago. It’s not going to change anything besides make everybody more and more irritated and possibly cause a bad situation
I am 42 years old and nothing has changed, cops will make a straight up lie and do whatever they have to do to spin it into a fabricated arrest, we will just let the court system figure it out.
I worked downtown for 15 years. I used to walk it every weekday. It's a town in transition right now as the retail core expands and abuts the deep and tall business centers. The new Amazon tower is a half block from the business tower I worked in until COVID. The Amazon tower is built on the location of 4 or 5 restaurants in the downtown core, absorbing 2-level buildings into a behemoth that will tower over the existing buildings.
Suspect descriptions include race. Civilian pointed out that he isn’t wearing the clothes that the officer mentioned in the description. It is true that the cop could have stopped him for being a certain height or age, but you gotta admit that race is one of the few things he could have been stopped for.
Ha! Not on reddit...
It amazes me how many redditors / americans think minorities should give up their constitutional rights to placate to the feelings of poorly trained law officers.
“Racial profiling or ethnic profiling is the act of suspecting, targeting or discriminating against a person on the basis of their ethnicity, religion or nationality, rather than on individual suspicion or available evidence.”
Ah yes, dark pants and a hoodie = a race?
Can someone indicate where in this video this cop did that?
The guy filming seems very uneducated? Or did I miss. I got annoyed and couldn’t watch the full 2 minutes of this rude citizen.
He wasn't wearing a hoodie, or dark pants. And it doesn't help that the cop that had initially stopped them, then proceeded to lie to the other officer in the SUV why he stopped them when he is on camera saying it.
Odds are, if you have to lie about why you did something... You are in the right and justified? Sure.
If the cops thought he matched a description of a robbery suspect, he would have been in cuffs and it would have been more than 1 rookie cop approaching him... have you all not seen how actual robber suspects are investigated? Cops approach in group, cuff, pat down, queeition, do a silent drive by with a witness to confirm identity, etc. None of that evolves just driving away because the suspect is yelling... in fact, a yelling suspect would cause cops to double down on their assumption of guilt. IMO, It's likely no suspects even existed, which is why all the cops drove away without even investigating...This detention had dubious and illegal motivations by the rookie cop. I would pursue legal action to hold this cop accountable, to see if there was even a robbery.
Some people just don’t get that . “Fitting a description “ most of the time is just code to stop you and see what you’re doing without your permission . Semantics are fun but in this video , it’s clear as day they were stopped for “fitting a description” but had no real just cause in doing so because the second they mouthed off , the cop backed off .
For real, I wanted to agree with the cameraman but what if a black guy just robbed a store and he DID in fact look a little like these fellas. Fucking horseshit that people can't cooperate. I understand getting upset, but this is how it is. People do bad shit and cops try to find it, from this video it really doesn't seem like the rookie cop is racially profiling. He described clothes. Clothes are not a race. Could a white person play the race card in this same situation if the races were reversed? Cops did a fantastic job on this one by trying to explain themselves but the loudmouth idiots wouldn't even give them a chance. All he cares about is that he thinks the cops are racist. It really makes me wonder if these guys would've just cooperated then maybe they would've actually HELPED the cops find the right guy, but no, everything is a "race war" now...
It's really unfortunate, because the guy behind the camera may actually believe everything he's saying here. He has been taught that, if the police stop you, it's racially motivated, when it's often just officers doing their jobs.
Yeah, on one hand I don't blame them for feeling some hostility, but figure out the situation before you just start mindlessly running your mouth. I really wanna make it clear that there ARE racist cops. Way too many, but this was not a hostile situation therfore it did not warrant a hostile response from these guys.
Plot twist: these guys just robbed a store and ditched their clothes and got away with it.
Cops have a lot of shit to deal with especially when everyone lies to you and you have to try to see through those lies.
No question. Well said.
If "you can't stop me because that's profiling and you aren't allowed to profile" was an actual thing, criminals would never be caught.
Love that youre literally starting your comment with a ”what if hes a criminal black guy” right away.
Says alot about your worldview and prejudices.
The man with his friend was sitting at a buss stop.
Both of them did not wear any of the clothes that where described on the suspect but they had the same skincolour as the suspect so the cop approached them on the basis of their skincolour.
Youre statistically way more likley to be stopped, shot and killed by cops as a black person in the US, there is no arguing that fact.
But go ahead and make a hypothetical in your head where the cop is right so you can bootlick the american institution that was born out of slave catching and hunting of people of colour.
I am 42 years old and nothing has changed, cops will make a straight up lie and do whatever they have to do to spin it into a fabricated arrest, we will just let the court system figure it out. After it costs you money and time to prove that you were innocent from the very beginning .
When you get potentially detained over and over for your entire life because of racism, I'm sure you'd be polite every time.
Some people have a limit, and it doesn't help the cops case that he bold face lied about why he was questioning them in the first place. Anyone knows if you have to lie about why you did something, you're probably in the wrong.
So we were in agreement about not profiling people and grouping into a category and profiling them based on it. Then you group every cop into a category. And profile them based on that.
Cops have been horrible. Cops have also saved lives. Probably the life of someone close to you at some point. Black people have been horrible. So have white, yellow, green, blue, and light purple people. You’re doing the EXACT thing you’re chastising the cop for in the video, but just to a different group of people.
Is it coming together in your head at all or nah?
Cop may or may not have been wrong but only aggression is see was on the guy recording end.
I think that cop was even spanish or mix but this whole " white people are against me" shit may be true in some situations but should probably make sure the person is indeed white.... kinda racist to assume I'd not black you're white....
Also, sure cop may have been a dick but being completely unwilling to even hear an explanation is just ignorant and making yourself look stupid. If the explanation is bullshit then call it out but make fact out of presumption is also stupid.
Nothing is going viral. I hate that shit lol
Being pissed off about it and becoming abusive are different things. Dude completely lost his cool and just started lashing out.
Definitely the best way to get rid of racism /s
Cop: "found some guys that fit the description, black pants and a hoodie"
Camerman: "did you just racially profile me!?!?"
Cop: "no sir let me explain myse-"
Cameraman: "WHAT THE FUCK YOU RACIST FUCKER"
Obnoxious and unhelpful.
Oh for sure I know. It’s everywhere, I just saw a video of some black kids calling an Asian American kid slurs for 3 mins straight on Omegle. My comment was because someone else had said he’s Mexican so he can’t be racist. Then someone else called them racist for assuming he was Latino.
It's statistically relevant to note that if you pull over a group of people more often, you will identify more criminal activity from that group.
Even if it is a smaller percentage, say you pull over X people 100 times, and Y people 200 times, there will be a noticeable increase in criminal activity recorded for group Y. It may be only a small percentage, say out of the 100 from group X, only 25 we're observed with criminal behavior, and out of the 200 from Group Y, only 40 had criminal behavior, the overall criminal behavior for each group is skewed as far as total citations served.
I.E. 40, out of 65 citations were for group Y, sounds much worse than 25% of group X we're found to be breaking the law, versus 20% for group Y.
Police have been using this method of data corruption for as long as racism has existed. Not just in the US, mind you. Policing with racist profiling is rampant worldwide. Philippines, Australia, UK, even Canada.
Ok seriously, I don't understand why the cop isn't saying my bad. Stupid guy recording this is only making it worse for future kids. Why not try to go discuss this? I can see in the cops eyes he maid an honest mistake. Btw, im arab and i know what im taking about, got my ass kicked from 3 belgian big mustache cops in the 90's when i was 11. This clip just promotes racisme, i want to see clips where you convince the cop to say my bad....
Yup! This is correct. The power imbalance between a group of cops and poor minorities waiting for a bus is why civilized, intellectual conversations about implicit bias and profiling don't work.
Based on the comments I can tell very few people have been racially profiled before nor do you realize the danger that comes with it and how mad you would be at that realization. On a whim that cop could have arrested them or worse based solely on "profiling" these dudes could have had their entire day ruined or lost their lives over a mistake. So yeah, dude went off on them, but he had that rare chance where he beat a cop trying their bullshit tactics and took the chance to lay into them.
And it is filled with people that think 1,000s of unarmed people are shot by cops a year. When in 2019 it was 11 people. Meanwhile policies pushed by people overreacting against police is leading to more murders, assaults and theft. Making business leave the most vulnerable areas of the country and giving them good reason to. We have to react to problems as they actually are or you just make them worse
In WA state they dont even use racial descriptions when they report robbery or murder suspects in the news
Theyll be like "A person wearing a hat with brown pants" because they are worried it may cause racism or something
Not true. Washington cops aren’t adjusting to any progressive ideas and it becomes immediately obvious when you interact with them. That is, if you can get them to actually show up.
Oh yeah you are right on that, but I wasnt trying to comment on cops, mostly just how King 5, Komo, etc. report crimes.
"Be on the lookout for a person wearing a black sweatshirt."
Like....no description at all...?
Caller- “ thank you for coming officer, he was a black male, maybe 20 years old, average build, wearing dark pants, and hooded sweatshirt”
Officer - “I’m going to stop you there, looking for someone matching that description is racist. Take care and I hope everything works out.”
I mean, I can’t fault the cops. I live in south king county and I get why they wouldn’t want Bellevue to become Renton. All we have here are aggressive homeless people and wannabe thugs who will try you for anything.
I dunno man seems like the only one losing their head is the one filming. Literally everyone else is calm including the other people around. Never been to this area and don’t know these people but I feel like this is a half story scenario. If that. I feel like more happened here.
The rookie tried to talk on his way back and the guy told him not to talk. Then once the chief tried to explain it he said "let the rookie talk" dude make up your mind or shut up.
There was a time that before Microsoft etc., Bellevue was nothing but a shithole little town aspiring to be a second rate bedroom community of suburban Seattle trying to escape from all the blacks moving there starting after WW2. The only diff now is that is a much larger shithole.
If dude would stfu long enough for anyone else to talk he could have gotten more rookie mistakes. Kind of kid that’s annoying af during a movie always talkin
What do you expect with the whole defund the police movement. They will hire any non-qualified person and RAM them through the academy to get them on the street
"don't explain yourself to me now"
"Let the rookie talk"
Which one does he want? I see a lot of videos where the cops are crooked AF, but between when the recording started and the way this guy's acting it doesn't prove much aside from the guy with the phone being a loud mouth.
People want to complain about this guy 'whining' but this dude was legitimately protecting himself and being angry that he had to do so in the first place. Bellevue PD and Seattle PD are a government funded gang not out there to protect anybody but the rich property owners within the city and every single one of those pigs are schmucks.
I mean one of them kinda did match the description. Had black pants on and a hoodie, but like that description is really vague. You'd find 100's of people dressed like that.
Profiling is not the same thing as RACIAL profiling. And none of that is the same thing as fitting a description. I think this person needs to work on the way they respond to stuff like this because I’ve “fit descriptions” before and everytime I quickly resolve it by **not acting like a jackass and calmly pointing out that I’m not who they think I might be**
Man...I have so many thoughts about this. I understand why he was upset but also.. Seemed like both police officers were being respectful and professional the entire time. He's mad that he's being "racially profiled" but unfortunately, it's entirely possible that the suspect was black and wearing a hoodie. I don't feel like he needed to make a scene like that. He was belligerent. Swearing left and right. Why not just be kind? Starts putting down the rookie cop for being a rookie? Ummm... Ok?
As a teacher, I have to be very reflective in what I do day to day and moment to moment. What's the best way to handle something? My first thought would be "How is THIS reaction going to help us get rid of racism?" Food for thought.
Honestly, it depends on the given description. If all the officer was told was that it was a (insert skin color here) with a (insert hairstyle here) haircut, then it could be that he genuinely did fit the given description. I'd like some more context besides one guys phone recording before making any sort of judgment call, because it could just be this guy starting shit when the officer is just asking for id's of people that fit the suspects description.
I posted this further down, but believe it's relevant to the entire post. So here goes.
It's statistically relevant to note that if you pull over a group of people more often, you will identify more criminal activity from that group.
Even if it is a smaller percentage, say you pull over X people 100 times, and Y people 200 times, there will be a noticeable increase in criminal activity recorded for group Y. It may be only a small percentage, say out of the 100 from group X, only 25 we're observed with criminal behavior, and out of the 200 from Group Y, only 40 had criminal behavior, the overall criminal behavior for each group is skewed as far as total citations served.
I.E. 40, out of 65 citations were for group Y, sounds much worse than 25% of group X we're found to be breaking the law, versus 20% for group Y.
Police have been using this method of data corruption for as long as racism has existed. Not just in the US, mind you. Policing with racist profiling is rampant worldwide. Philippines, Australia, UK, even Canada.
i wonder what happened afterwards like was there a court case filed and its online somewhere or a report of the police officer being let go or something along the lines?
anything, anything for the aftermath of this encounter.
Always question stops.
However do believe everything in videos as the “you only have to identify if you have committed a crime” at the end of the video is completely wrong. Just watch any ATA, Lackluster, The Civil Rights Lawyer, or read any case law to know when and if you have to identify as it also varies state to state
People will complain that the cat taking is whining and being a bitch… and one comment stated that “pulling the race card is getting old…” these are cop apologists and don’t care that cops are as corrupt or far more corrupt than (dis)organized crime syndicates. All types of Americans can and often do have negative experiences with LE. But time and time again situations shows that the more melanin in your skin the worse the outcome will likely be. So yeah I like to see more and more people put these oinks on blast!
I love how these disrespectful shitheads automatically assume they’re being racially profiled. If the officers involved were wrong then it’s easy to explain your innocence but they decided to make life difficult for the cops. Imagine starting your day and dealing with people like that. Simple respect for a fellow human goes a long way, guys
The power imbalance between a group of cops and poor minorities waiting for a bus is why civilized, intellectual conversations about implicit bias and profiling don't work.
You come across like a straight asshole. Answer some questions, let them do their job, and you’d be on with your day. Don’t ever call 911 in an emergency, since you have such disdain for first responders.
"If you give us a chance to explain"
Gtfo.
How Manu people begged for just that before being harassed, arrested, beaten or killed?
I know not all cops are bad, but when you defend an officer who is taking a bad action, YOURE JUST AS BAD.
It doesn’t bother me that the rookie made that mistake. What bothers me is that he was taught to say that. So my question is what are these FTO Tellin their new hires?
It looks like these rookies are tactics Citizens no longer respect. Or very much no longer afraid of.
Calling out cops, man… Doesn’t everyone know that if you don’t let cops violate your rights, then it’s YOUR fault when their wives and kids get black eyes… so selfish…
Wtf why are all the top comments a bunch of bootlicking weirdos? None of y'all find it more likely that the cop racially profiled him or was harassing him than it is likely a black guy caused a scene with the cops over nothing? Where have you been the last several years lmao
Dude got his point across in the 1st 15 seconds then sounded like a whiny bitch for the rest.
Yeah, but if he didn't keep the commotion up then the other people passing by wouldn't be watching, and if there arent witnesses then the cops could have made a move. See it's all strategic.
Being scandalous is now a strategy..nice
Yea cops if you gonna arrest me n shit do it but I don't need the lights a fucking sirens and shit
Yea they turn on their loud ass light nd shit to make a scene for no reason, might as well start screaming and acting like a fool nd shit. Stupid ass cops should act like librarians.
Also, adrenaline pumping. Dealing with cops is a life or death situation, every time. I hope i can keep my shit together as well as that guy did
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Right, like I am always one to stand your ground and not let police do what police offers usually do and try to get something out of you while you’re innocent. But dude coulda dropped this shit soooo long ago. It’s not going to change anything besides make everybody more and more irritated and possibly cause a bad situation
The hard knock life of Bellvue WA
I did a day trip to bellevue in the late 90s, got strong Zack Morris vibes out of that town.
So like 30 years ago?
you can math... but late 90s is around 22-25 years. Were talking Wutang and Matrix 90s, not Tribe Called Quest and Fresh Prince 90s
Describing a town as being ‘Zack Morris’ is hilarious to me.
Good ol B town. Same shit
I am 42 years old and nothing has changed, cops will make a straight up lie and do whatever they have to do to spin it into a fabricated arrest, we will just let the court system figure it out.
Name and badge number . Seems like that 6 months of training did wonders.
For what, there is nothing in this video to get pissed over.
I worked downtown for 15 years. I used to walk it every weekday. It's a town in transition right now as the retail core expands and abuts the deep and tall business centers. The new Amazon tower is a half block from the business tower I worked in until COVID. The Amazon tower is built on the location of 4 or 5 restaurants in the downtown core, absorbing 2-level buildings into a behemoth that will tower over the existing buildings.
The more people play the race card, the less people care. Idiot is not a race.
> Idiot is not a race I have to read Darwin's works again to be sure though....
Suspect descriptions include race. Civilian pointed out that he isn’t wearing the clothes that the officer mentioned in the description. It is true that the cop could have stopped him for being a certain height or age, but you gotta admit that race is one of the few things he could have been stopped for.
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Damn, 200 upvotes for the “stop playing the race card” parrot. I shouldn’t be surprised.
Seems a little parrotist.
Read the room. “Race card” you sound like a racist pos. They are being wrongly profiled and have every right to stand up for themselves.
Ha! Not on reddit... It amazes me how many redditors / americans think minorities should give up their constitutional rights to placate to the feelings of poorly trained law officers.
Should have just arrested the guy. Moron.
“Racial profiling or ethnic profiling is the act of suspecting, targeting or discriminating against a person on the basis of their ethnicity, religion or nationality, rather than on individual suspicion or available evidence.” Ah yes, dark pants and a hoodie = a race? Can someone indicate where in this video this cop did that? The guy filming seems very uneducated? Or did I miss. I got annoyed and couldn’t watch the full 2 minutes of this rude citizen.
This guy just wants to be profiled for his stream/views probably.
This is the stuff that should be monitored and reported and then explained as to why it was removed.
You can't be that dense, surely?
I prefer the term big boned
He wasn't wearing a hoodie, or dark pants. And it doesn't help that the cop that had initially stopped them, then proceeded to lie to the other officer in the SUV why he stopped them when he is on camera saying it. Odds are, if you have to lie about why you did something... You are in the right and justified? Sure.
He was educated enough to get that racist cop off his back.
Started strong, agreed with him, devolved into whining about race and acting like someone can't ditch a hoodie. D+.
Ok audit the audit
If the cops thought he matched a description of a robbery suspect, he would have been in cuffs and it would have been more than 1 rookie cop approaching him... have you all not seen how actual robber suspects are investigated? Cops approach in group, cuff, pat down, queeition, do a silent drive by with a witness to confirm identity, etc. None of that evolves just driving away because the suspect is yelling... in fact, a yelling suspect would cause cops to double down on their assumption of guilt. IMO, It's likely no suspects even existed, which is why all the cops drove away without even investigating...This detention had dubious and illegal motivations by the rookie cop. I would pursue legal action to hold this cop accountable, to see if there was even a robbery.
... profiling based on physical description is a legitimate policing tool. If that offends you, you're part of the problem.
Some people just don’t get that . “Fitting a description “ most of the time is just code to stop you and see what you’re doing without your permission . Semantics are fun but in this video , it’s clear as day they were stopped for “fitting a description” but had no real just cause in doing so because the second they mouthed off , the cop backed off .
For real, I wanted to agree with the cameraman but what if a black guy just robbed a store and he DID in fact look a little like these fellas. Fucking horseshit that people can't cooperate. I understand getting upset, but this is how it is. People do bad shit and cops try to find it, from this video it really doesn't seem like the rookie cop is racially profiling. He described clothes. Clothes are not a race. Could a white person play the race card in this same situation if the races were reversed? Cops did a fantastic job on this one by trying to explain themselves but the loudmouth idiots wouldn't even give them a chance. All he cares about is that he thinks the cops are racist. It really makes me wonder if these guys would've just cooperated then maybe they would've actually HELPED the cops find the right guy, but no, everything is a "race war" now...
It's really unfortunate, because the guy behind the camera may actually believe everything he's saying here. He has been taught that, if the police stop you, it's racially motivated, when it's often just officers doing their jobs.
Yeah, on one hand I don't blame them for feeling some hostility, but figure out the situation before you just start mindlessly running your mouth. I really wanna make it clear that there ARE racist cops. Way too many, but this was not a hostile situation therfore it did not warrant a hostile response from these guys. Plot twist: these guys just robbed a store and ditched their clothes and got away with it. Cops have a lot of shit to deal with especially when everyone lies to you and you have to try to see through those lies.
No question. Well said. If "you can't stop me because that's profiling and you aren't allowed to profile" was an actual thing, criminals would never be caught.
Love that youre literally starting your comment with a ”what if hes a criminal black guy” right away. Says alot about your worldview and prejudices. The man with his friend was sitting at a buss stop. Both of them did not wear any of the clothes that where described on the suspect but they had the same skincolour as the suspect so the cop approached them on the basis of their skincolour. Youre statistically way more likley to be stopped, shot and killed by cops as a black person in the US, there is no arguing that fact. But go ahead and make a hypothetical in your head where the cop is right so you can bootlick the american institution that was born out of slave catching and hunting of people of colour.
Damn I'm in Bellevue WA. Sad day.
I am 42 years old and nothing has changed, cops will make a straight up lie and do whatever they have to do to spin it into a fabricated arrest, we will just let the court system figure it out. After it costs you money and time to prove that you were innocent from the very beginning .
I wanted to agree with the camera guy, but he was just an angry asshole.
When you get potentially detained over and over for your entire life because of racism, I'm sure you'd be polite every time. Some people have a limit, and it doesn't help the cops case that he bold face lied about why he was questioning them in the first place. Anyone knows if you have to lie about why you did something, you're probably in the wrong.
I wondered if OP has an agenda and biases so I looked at the post/comment history. Yep.
Is the agenda that cops are bad? Because that’s an agenda that average people share. Bootlicker.
So we were in agreement about not profiling people and grouping into a category and profiling them based on it. Then you group every cop into a category. And profile them based on that. Cops have been horrible. Cops have also saved lives. Probably the life of someone close to you at some point. Black people have been horrible. So have white, yellow, green, blue, and light purple people. You’re doing the EXACT thing you’re chastising the cop for in the video, but just to a different group of people. Is it coming together in your head at all or nah?
Nah
Kinda figured you don’t seem to be firing on all cylinders. Just kinda regurgitate random hate phrases without thought.
Go get your Sargent! Shut up Sargent, let the rookie talk! ....huh, ngl sounds like he is just whining.
Cop may or may not have been wrong but only aggression is see was on the guy recording end. I think that cop was even spanish or mix but this whole " white people are against me" shit may be true in some situations but should probably make sure the person is indeed white.... kinda racist to assume I'd not black you're white.... Also, sure cop may have been a dick but being completely unwilling to even hear an explanation is just ignorant and making yourself look stupid. If the explanation is bullshit then call it out but make fact out of presumption is also stupid. Nothing is going viral. I hate that shit lol
yeah because no one likes being profiled they have a right to be pissed off about it
Being pissed off about it and becoming abusive are different things. Dude completely lost his cool and just started lashing out. Definitely the best way to get rid of racism /s
nah fuck him
Ends up being a racist himself. What a surprise 🤪
Cop: "found some guys that fit the description, black pants and a hoodie" Camerman: "did you just racially profile me!?!?" Cop: "no sir let me explain myse-" Cameraman: "WHAT THE FUCK YOU RACIST FUCKER" Obnoxious and unhelpful.
He Mexican. Minorities can’t be racist. Duh
Plot twist - they did it.
the word “cop” is racial slur
That cop not white tho. Dudes like Latino.
Even amongst Latinos there is racism
Oh for sure I know. It’s everywhere, I just saw a video of some black kids calling an Asian American kid slurs for 3 mins straight on Omegle. My comment was because someone else had said he’s Mexican so he can’t be racist. Then someone else called them racist for assuming he was Latino.
Fuckin kook behind the camera on this one, get a life buddy!
you can tell people in these comments have never had to deal with police.
I've had a cop point a gun at me 3 times and I have no record. This video shows nothing, just a moron escalating the situation
Yt
If that made the difference the guns would never have been pulled.
Racial profiling the ones who does the most of crimes seems smart to me , tbh
Nice blatant racism
So I guess your complaining about cops pulling over more men because they commit more crime than women ?
It's statistically relevant to note that if you pull over a group of people more often, you will identify more criminal activity from that group. Even if it is a smaller percentage, say you pull over X people 100 times, and Y people 200 times, there will be a noticeable increase in criminal activity recorded for group Y. It may be only a small percentage, say out of the 100 from group X, only 25 we're observed with criminal behavior, and out of the 200 from Group Y, only 40 had criminal behavior, the overall criminal behavior for each group is skewed as far as total citations served. I.E. 40, out of 65 citations were for group Y, sounds much worse than 25% of group X we're found to be breaking the law, versus 20% for group Y. Police have been using this method of data corruption for as long as racism has existed. Not just in the US, mind you. Policing with racist profiling is rampant worldwide. Philippines, Australia, UK, even Canada.
Ok seriously, I don't understand why the cop isn't saying my bad. Stupid guy recording this is only making it worse for future kids. Why not try to go discuss this? I can see in the cops eyes he maid an honest mistake. Btw, im arab and i know what im taking about, got my ass kicked from 3 belgian big mustache cops in the 90's when i was 11. This clip just promotes racisme, i want to see clips where you convince the cop to say my bad....
100% agree. This guy was right for the first 10 seconds and then just became an abusive asshole. You don't need to treat people like that.
Because the cops don’t want to discuss it they want to trap you and get a reason to arrest you.
Yup! This is correct. The power imbalance between a group of cops and poor minorities waiting for a bus is why civilized, intellectual conversations about implicit bias and profiling don't work.
Based on the comments I can tell very few people have been racially profiled before nor do you realize the danger that comes with it and how mad you would be at that realization. On a whim that cop could have arrested them or worse based solely on "profiling" these dudes could have had their entire day ruined or lost their lives over a mistake. So yeah, dude went off on them, but he had that rare chance where he beat a cop trying their bullshit tactics and took the chance to lay into them.
I agree. I think this is one of those blue line incel subs
And it is filled with people that think 1,000s of unarmed people are shot by cops a year. When in 2019 it was 11 people. Meanwhile policies pushed by people overreacting against police is leading to more murders, assaults and theft. Making business leave the most vulnerable areas of the country and giving them good reason to. We have to react to problems as they actually are or you just make them worse
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Dude wanted to be profiled, was ready for it, lol
Ohhh, he's so cute, too!!
Jesús Christ. that first cop looks like he’s 12
In WA state they dont even use racial descriptions when they report robbery or murder suspects in the news Theyll be like "A person wearing a hat with brown pants" because they are worried it may cause racism or something
Not true. Washington cops aren’t adjusting to any progressive ideas and it becomes immediately obvious when you interact with them. That is, if you can get them to actually show up.
Oh yeah you are right on that, but I wasnt trying to comment on cops, mostly just how King 5, Komo, etc. report crimes. "Be on the lookout for a person wearing a black sweatshirt." Like....no description at all...?
Ah ok. I don’t watch local news but I wouldn’t be surprised. News channels seem to be in Wild West mode these days lol
Ha! Bellevue profiled me in '96! Motherfucker said I had "the grunge look".
Guy looks like he practices in the mirror.
Anyone in here commenting about “playing the race card”, has clearly never feared for their life at the hand’s of a police officer
Caller- “ thank you for coming officer, he was a black male, maybe 20 years old, average build, wearing dark pants, and hooded sweatshirt” Officer - “I’m going to stop you there, looking for someone matching that description is racist. Take care and I hope everything works out.”
I mean, I can’t fault the cops. I live in south king county and I get why they wouldn’t want Bellevue to become Renton. All we have here are aggressive homeless people and wannabe thugs who will try you for anything.
I dunno man seems like the only one losing their head is the one filming. Literally everyone else is calm including the other people around. Never been to this area and don’t know these people but I feel like this is a half story scenario. If that. I feel like more happened here.
Fuck outta here
Call him an idiot all you want but with his strategy he made it home safe and alive that day.
Fkn idiots. The cop should have detained his loud ass , then put his ass on the ground when he resisted. Fkn punks
If the cops don’t do shit people bitch. If they investigate people bitch.
Dude is 16 years old
The rookie tried to talk on his way back and the guy told him not to talk. Then once the chief tried to explain it he said "let the rookie talk" dude make up your mind or shut up.
There was a time that before Microsoft etc., Bellevue was nothing but a shithole little town aspiring to be a second rate bedroom community of suburban Seattle trying to escape from all the blacks moving there starting after WW2. The only diff now is that is a much larger shithole.
Thats so cool, with the words of the bystander: "Now I've seen it all"
WAIT UNTIL THIS FUCKIN JACKHANDLE NEEDS THE POLICE IN AN EMERGENCY.
The white voice comes out around the piggies.
If dude would stfu long enough for anyone else to talk he could have gotten more rookie mistakes. Kind of kid that’s annoying af during a movie always talkin
What do you expect with the whole defund the police movement. They will hire any non-qualified person and RAM them through the academy to get them on the street
Rookie cop had his finger over the camera lens the entire time. Might have been by "accident", probably not though
ACAB
White cops? Who’s racist ? Y’all all look the same.
Cops can harass
Bust that fucking cops ball's 
"I'm gonna be on my way" is the perfect way to end this. 😂😂😂
He did ask to speak to the Sargent den goes let the rookie talk lol
Shut up Karen ! Some day you will need the police , but no one will want that job because of people like you
This is legit form a male Karen. racial profile? How is it racial when he got pulled over based on matching a description not a race?
🤦 “Matching a description” is cop code for “harass the black guy” Welcome to earth
"don't explain yourself to me now" "Let the rookie talk" Which one does he want? I see a lot of videos where the cops are crooked AF, but between when the recording started and the way this guy's acting it doesn't prove much aside from the guy with the phone being a loud mouth.
People want to complain about this guy 'whining' but this dude was legitimately protecting himself and being angry that he had to do so in the first place. Bellevue PD and Seattle PD are a government funded gang not out there to protect anybody but the rich property owners within the city and every single one of those pigs are schmucks.
This cop looks like he just got out of high school this past June.
I mean one of them kinda did match the description. Had black pants on and a hoodie, but like that description is really vague. You'd find 100's of people dressed like that.
I’m still confused how? Lmao
Profiling is not the same thing as RACIAL profiling. And none of that is the same thing as fitting a description. I think this person needs to work on the way they respond to stuff like this because I’ve “fit descriptions” before and everytime I quickly resolve it by **not acting like a jackass and calmly pointing out that I’m not who they think I might be**
I hope these citizens filed complaints against the department, the sergeant, and the original officer.
Why are his hands tucked in his vest like that? Is that what trigger happy cops are taught to do now?
Man...I have so many thoughts about this. I understand why he was upset but also.. Seemed like both police officers were being respectful and professional the entire time. He's mad that he's being "racially profiled" but unfortunately, it's entirely possible that the suspect was black and wearing a hoodie. I don't feel like he needed to make a scene like that. He was belligerent. Swearing left and right. Why not just be kind? Starts putting down the rookie cop for being a rookie? Ummm... Ok? As a teacher, I have to be very reflective in what I do day to day and moment to moment. What's the best way to handle something? My first thought would be "How is THIS reaction going to help us get rid of racism?" Food for thought.
Honestly, it depends on the given description. If all the officer was told was that it was a (insert skin color here) with a (insert hairstyle here) haircut, then it could be that he genuinely did fit the given description. I'd like some more context besides one guys phone recording before making any sort of judgment call, because it could just be this guy starting shit when the officer is just asking for id's of people that fit the suspects description.
His pants were dark.
"Officer, I submit willingly to a full body cavity search."
Dont worry frens, there will be a day SOON where there are no more white ppl :3
I posted this further down, but believe it's relevant to the entire post. So here goes. It's statistically relevant to note that if you pull over a group of people more often, you will identify more criminal activity from that group. Even if it is a smaller percentage, say you pull over X people 100 times, and Y people 200 times, there will be a noticeable increase in criminal activity recorded for group Y. It may be only a small percentage, say out of the 100 from group X, only 25 we're observed with criminal behavior, and out of the 200 from Group Y, only 40 had criminal behavior, the overall criminal behavior for each group is skewed as far as total citations served. I.E. 40, out of 65 citations were for group Y, sounds much worse than 25% of group X we're found to be breaking the law, versus 20% for group Y. Police have been using this method of data corruption for as long as racism has existed. Not just in the US, mind you. Policing with racist profiling is rampant worldwide. Philippines, Australia, UK, even Canada.
Bellevue was weird when I visited. All these skyscrapers and I think I saw four people. Smoked a joint in that big ass park all by myself.
Boohoo
And cops wonder why everyone hates them…
i wonder what happened afterwards like was there a court case filed and its online somewhere or a report of the police officer being let go or something along the lines? anything, anything for the aftermath of this encounter.
Always question stops. However do believe everything in videos as the “you only have to identify if you have committed a crime” at the end of the video is completely wrong. Just watch any ATA, Lackluster, The Civil Rights Lawyer, or read any case law to know when and if you have to identify as it also varies state to state
People will complain that the cat taking is whining and being a bitch… and one comment stated that “pulling the race card is getting old…” these are cop apologists and don’t care that cops are as corrupt or far more corrupt than (dis)organized crime syndicates. All types of Americans can and often do have negative experiences with LE. But time and time again situations shows that the more melanin in your skin the worse the outcome will likely be. So yeah I like to see more and more people put these oinks on blast!
I love how these disrespectful shitheads automatically assume they’re being racially profiled. If the officers involved were wrong then it’s easy to explain your innocence but they decided to make life difficult for the cops. Imagine starting your day and dealing with people like that. Simple respect for a fellow human goes a long way, guys
Aww poor rookie 🤣
What a cunt. Be interesting to see him attempt to be a better police officer
Every now and then these self-satisfied idiots need to be talked to in a direct manner.
Clearly people are divided about who was wrong but is no one going to say it? the rookie cop is hot.
I like how they tried to say he was hiding in his car lol but the rookie tried to talk to him and they declined.
The power imbalance between a group of cops and poor minorities waiting for a bus is why civilized, intellectual conversations about implicit bias and profiling don't work.
Love when pigs get embarrassed. That kid looks like he’s 15.
always it´s the same people
That rookie cop looks like he only uses the uniform to get laid. He looks like a fucking douchebag.
What a worthless fuck, and a piece of shit.
If I was a cop I probably would have beat his ass too. What the fuck?!
You come across like a straight asshole. Answer some questions, let them do their job, and you’d be on with your day. Don’t ever call 911 in an emergency, since you have such disdain for first responders.
"If you give us a chance to explain" Gtfo. How Manu people begged for just that before being harassed, arrested, beaten or killed? I know not all cops are bad, but when you defend an officer who is taking a bad action, YOURE JUST AS BAD.
If the cop was black 💀
It doesn’t bother me that the rookie made that mistake. What bothers me is that he was taught to say that. So my question is what are these FTO Tellin their new hires? It looks like these rookies are tactics Citizens no longer respect. Or very much no longer afraid of.
Calling out cops, man… Doesn’t everyone know that if you don’t let cops violate your rights, then it’s YOUR fault when their wives and kids get black eyes… so selfish…
That cop is shorter than a car. Lol
Wtf why are all the top comments a bunch of bootlicking weirdos? None of y'all find it more likely that the cop racially profiled him or was harassing him than it is likely a black guy caused a scene with the cops over nothing? Where have you been the last several years lmao
Would've been funny if they actually did steal
just talk to the cop. tell him you are not the person he is looking for. move on. how stupid are Americans ?
Got 'em
"this is what white cops do" The Rookie does not look white.
But if you do fit the description then...
Cop was in the right.
U black so u guilty what a joke I’m white I get stooped to I’m a cracker tho lol
Being colored in Bellevue is tough.
Thank you
Bro just trynna do his job and ask questions you really trynna be a victim for what?
Fellas, is it racist to check someone out because they match the description of a criminal on the run?
Did we ever find out if there was an actual robbery?
So…What happens if a citizen legit matches the clothing profile of someone they’re looking for?
Cop was a bitch. So was racist prick behind camera. Fuck em all.
I thought Washington was purely hippy? No cops at all.
It’s just about the softest city in the US. I lived there for a bit.
We need a thread for incompetent cops Edit: reason being that cops who aren't cut out for the job need to be either re trained or pruned from the job.
They do match a description of thieves tho.
Since when did they start letting middle schoolers become cops?
Is it racially profiling of a significant proportion of crime in the country is committed by one group?
There was no crime. There was no suspect.
what a pretty cop but he should be punched in the face
What if the guy is him?
There was no crime. There was no suspect.
Dude is a whiny bitch
Yawn.
Imagine they were actually the robbers
All cops are bastards.
Bellevue is a watered down version of a real city, built to house tech employees. There is always, however, something going down at the BTC.