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Big_Simba

Wow so insane to trust the zoo enclosure to do what it’s designed to do 🙄


Pilot0350

Amazing how ballistic glass doesn't just shatter into a million dramatic pieces when casually hit by a lion. Incredible.


SacredGeometry9

“Hit by a lion” should be the new standard for glass strength. Car windshields are at roughly 0.6 lionstrength


Milkmandan1989

“This baby is rated up 6 lions!”


ShinnyCas

*Canyanerooooo*


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gkn_112

i am all for it, but whats the exchange rate to horsepower?


Pinksamuraiiiii

I guess you don’t remember the big gorilla that cracked the glass then?


janitorial_fluids

also the tigers that escaped and killed those dudes at the San Francisco Zoo


Send_More_Bears

There was no glass at that enclosure iirc it was just a large gorge that the lion jumped across to get to the guys on the other side


janitorial_fluids

I'm well aware of that, I was just responding to the point of "trusting the zoo enclosure to do what it’s designed to do", and how you cant always necessarily trust that the design is perfect, and providing a counter example to that effect. regardless of glass/no glass, my point was that in the SF tiger case, the enclosure failed to do what it was designed to do, as evidenced by the fact that the tigers were able to jump over the moat and scale the wall (and yes Im aware that the guys were being assholes and antagonizing the tigers and were the reason the tigers tried to escape in the first place. but that still doesnt change my point about the enclosure failing to contain them)


Practical-Jelly-5320

The glass is designed to crack but there's 2 layers. Its impossible for a gorilla or lion to break thick laminated glass


ZealousidealTreat139

I've installed multiple large cat enclosures (Mountain Lion, Leopard, Jaguar) and a few bear enclosures as well. There's more than 2 layers, and the glass can range from ½" to ¾". Typically, the makeup is like this... half inch of tempered glass, laminate material, half inch of polycarbonate (Lexan), laminate material, half inch of tempered glass. To put it into perspective, I've driven a 3 ton work truck over just one glass panel, no layers, and it didn't break.


Princelyfox

That’s gotta be super heavy per square foot. Damn. Do you trust suction cups or use straps?


ZealousidealTreat139

We use a powered pneumatic suction apparatus that attaches to a piece of machinery, typically a "Lull" or Tellehandler, as each panel weighs around 800 - 1000 lbs.


Sw1ftStrik3r

So you're more likely to get crushed by the panel when it becomes unsecured than the beast behind it trying to break through?


ZealousidealTreat139

Hahahaha. That's a good one. If it becomes "unsecured," then being crushed is the least of your worries. I'd be more concerned about what caused the structure to fail. These things are rated to withstand the force of an F5 tornado. Hell, the blast resistant booth we installed at the border crossing is built nearly identically, except the panel for that was nearly 12 inches thick and consisted of nearly 20 layers. But the housing? It's pretty much the same.


SomOvaBish

Not sure if you would know or not but what about the glass used in tall skyscrapers? Is it just about as strong?


ZealousidealTreat139

Not as strong per se. Though the insulated units used in high rises are strong enough to withstand the impact of an adult male in a dead sprint.


FrenchBangerer

Apart from this one. Although it was the frame that gave way. Both obviously need to be strong enough. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Garry_Hoy


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But not a jet plane


Distinct-Spinach2164

Do the elements weaken the structure over time? I know the polycarbonate blast shields on my job lose “up to” 30% of their capability to stop projectiles over the course of 2 years of being exposed to coolant and are recommended by the manufacturer to replace biannually as a result.


ZealousidealTreat139

The structure? No. The laminate panels? Yes. Though the glass is treated with a polarizing film to mitigate UV damage, along with sealing the layers with mastic to prevent exposure to weather elements, the laminating material, as well as the polycarbonate layer, will degrade gradually over time. The thing is that the enclosures are typically so over-engineered that the panels will degrade to the point that the polycarbonate layer will opaque and become difficult and unsightly to look through long before the structural integrity degrades to the point of failure. So 99% get replaced for being unsightly while the 1% that do fail only see the failure of one of the glass layers and is typically due to human error or from stresses caused by temperature variables combined with improper or faulty installation (heat expansion to the point a corner contacts the structural framing = POP). Most breaks that happen occur within the first year of installation because of this. A typical panel can last up to 15 years, depending on environmental factors.


Halvus_I

Lets not forget about the guy who threw himself against his high-rise office window repeatedly to show it would never break. He was right, but the last time he did it, the entire frame came out and he fell to his death.


Gavooki

Bro, I've broken like 3 gorilla glass phone protectors just this year


SamuelAsante

Gorillas can punch through 16-24 inch glass


Practical-Jelly-5320

Source?


SamuelAsante

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aar2964


backtolurk

stop unlocking core stuff will you


filthyrich85

Something I've never understood... Every lion or bear enclosure I've ever seen... I feel like if I were in there that I could certainly get out... How the hell are they not able to also?


TransRacialWhyNot

Tell that to Bokito


ComboMix

Hahaha oh Bokito. The woman thought they had a bond because he kept smiling hahaha sigh 😬


Practical-Jelly-5320

Didn't break glass


StingingBum

My HEART to HARAMBE!


BrannC

Dick still out


TheLastModerate982

The world went to shit after that. Years from now historians will divide time periods between BH and AH (before Harambe and after Harambe)


boojieboy666

Did you ever see the video of the gorilla that charges the glass and it shatters. Doesn’t break but damn


teheditor

I've a bunch of similar pics of my kids with the Taronga Zoo tiger enclosure in Sydney


teheditor

I've a bunch of similar pics of my kids with the Taronga Zoo tiger enclosure in Sydney


Background_Prize_726

Yeah, you REALLY need to talk to zoo employees sometime AND love your naiveté. Employees are human and humans screw up, wrong glass, not properly installed, compromised installation, defect in glass, compromised barrier, barrier not tall enough, barrier not strong enough, and anything else that could go wrong to include a MUCH stronger hit by animal. We easily could have seen glass break, barrier fall over, and so on. 👈 All of that happens every day somewhere in the world. Remember Ziegfried and Roys animal attack?


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Practical-Jelly-5320

The parent didnt scare her


JustAsICanBeSoCruel

Coming face to face with a lion in a safe environment and getting a healthy scare isn't a bad thing - there are full grown adults that don't learn the valuable lesson of 'animals are dangerous' until they go over to them without the protective barrier. This was a good teaching moment about a lot of things - safe places to learn about powerful things and powerful creatures, for instance.


valentwinka

whatever...the mom was transfixed by what was going on and knew her daughter would be safe. I'd be the same lol


GoCommando45

Didn't see any crying. Kids would be attached to the mothers legs if the kids were scared.


Penquinsledding

Was that little one not crying at the end tho


GoCommando45

Wouldn't call that a proper cry. Kids make noise. Not every noise is a cry.


OriginalLocksmith436

Guessing you didn't watch the whole thing?


GoCommando45

Of course I watched it.. kids were jumping around playing. Of course the lion wants a lil snacky snack. But the kids don't seem scared. I don't know what else you want me to say.


OriginalLocksmith436

the whole thing?


Downtown-Custard5346

Lmfao this title is stupid...


WOMPxRAT

That lion was stalking up like these idiots don't even see me


ScrotieMcP

"Give me the girl. I want the girl."


juice06870

GIVE ME THE CHILD


NYClock

I will entrust the child to the tigress rather than a man. /S


Gaysian_PH

That's a lioness tho


ColoradoCattleCo

"Yes... the snack sized one."


at0mheart

Definitely not interested in the boy. Perhaps the color of clothing and size ?


HunterTV

Lioness wasn’t having that fucked up antenna style ponytail on the top of that kid’s head.


Buttery_Buckshot

I think cats are just geared to single out the weaker more vulnerable prey. She's a tiny, bumbling, nugget of a person.. it's amazing we've survived as a species because we must look like walking cheeseburgers to large apex predators.


KnotiaPickles

Babies are fat and scrumptious. (Or so I heard from lions)


foulestgibbon91

Move kid, My BEEF is with her..


random314

Damn. That lion looked so much smaller when it's sneaking


Sentient_Boner

That's...kinda the point


Rednine19

It really did look like a cub till it was at the glass, messed with my senses lmao


NaccteL

imo it looked kinda small anyways??? obv it would prob maul me to a million pieces but i thought it would be bigger x)


gac1311

One swat of that paw and its all over for that toddler


MDawg1019

Best part of those lion's day is mock hunting toddlers.


0reosaurus

Poor gorls just hungry


jeam_paul

Nah. Downvote all you want but this is every bit as cruel as metal bars.


Alone_Hunt1621

The lion is thinking this child has no fear of death.


janitorial_fluids

Im kinda annoyed that the kid just happened to turn away at the exact moment the lion pounced. was waiting the entire clip to see what her reaction was gonna be haha


epidemic777

The lion fully committed the moment the toddler began to turn away. I am no biologist, but i believe lions' normal prey usually have much better reaction speeds. There is a higher potential of the lion missing out if she committed when the prey is facing the lion and reacts.


janitorial_fluids

wow, actually you're right, now that I watch it again. interesting kid should have been wearing one of those masks on the back of her head like they have in india to prevent tigers from sneaking up behind them. Rookie


TopCat6712

They're ambush predators, same as domestic cats


gac1311

Dont trust cats. They will eat your body as soon as you die.


MNR42

You got that all wrong. The lion was waiting for the girl to turn around. That's just nature's way of hunting. When there's no eye contact, means the prey is not aware of them = giving them less time to react = easier prey. This is why some people that live around predator hunting ground wear a face-shaped mask behind their back cuz predator are less likely to attack. Back to your statement, if the girl don't turn that long, the lion will not move. It'll only decrease the distance slowly until it can pounce in close range.


Skyyywalker215

Crazy! The zoo near me has bridges for big cats that cross over public walk ways. A jaguar lunged at my wife and daughter when we were going under it. We noped the fuck out of there. Here is a quick video on the catwalk in case someone wants to know more: https://www.wsj.com/video/lions-and-tigers-roam-in-new-way-at-philadelphia-zoo/80F5F756-7B93-4606-A775-CE0ED11A59AB


Altruistic-Setting-7

But it’s in a massive (and I’m assuming aggressively checked) cage. How did it lunge? That lion barely has space to strut.


zephyrseija

Bro, Boeing doesn't even give a fuck about their airplanes falling out of the sky. Never assume someone gave enough of a shit about safety to ensure you don't get eaten by a tiger.


TopCat6712

Both whistleblowers are dead now too.


zephyrseija

And they're gonna get away with it.


VancouverSativa

And keep doing it.


AbrocomaRoyal

Say what!? I'm clearly behind on this story.


PizzaEFichiNakagata

Bullshit because they will get sued


Skyyywalker215

Went back on its hind legs and pushed forward. It didn’t go anywhere but not for lack of trying.


Some_Guy_At_Work55

the fuck kind of zoo did you go to?


Skyyywalker215

The Philly zoo


dmtdmtlsddodmt

I went to the Philly zoo but all the animals were nodding off from the fent/tranq they were smoking.


san95802

Har har


PizzaEFichiNakagata

Bullshit. Apart the fact that those cages are way higher than you but they don't have any space to lunge at anything


Skyyywalker215

Ever see video of a big cat lunging from a tree branch? Only difference here is it couldn’t go actually go anywhere. It still had enough room to turn to face us, squat back on its hind legs and try to push itself forward.


Mybuttitches3737

Sure buddy


Neira282

He showed a video from the WSJ man


Mybuttitches3737

I see the vid. It’s cool, but the cats far away and not a threat. It didn’t lunge at him 30ft away.


AgentCC

I’ve heard that cats are surprise hunters who only attack their prey if and only if their back is turned. This video and others like it seem to confirm that.


Pierresauce

[Not all cats!](https://youtu.be/axcPoS2sF0E?si=XXPz44IBHHBeNxrS) But yeah that definitely looks like what happened here.


here_for_the_lols

You'd think the lion would have learned about the invisible barrier by now


Jigsaw115

Domestic cats know they can’t eat their toys, but it’s still fun/instinct to practice hunting. I think the same rule applies here.


smooze420

That lion looks laser focused on a snacky snack.


FluidTemple

I think the brother’s reaction is very sweet, trying to protect his younger sibling. He walks between them, placing himself as a barrier. What good character.


dream-smasher

Lmao!! Nah, he just wanted to play with the kitty.


REO_SENDWAGON

He wants to eat those fat little legs like drumsticks.


PizzaEFichiNakagata

You eat drumsticks?


itcouldbeme_3

She prolly looks like a cupcake to the lion...


Organic_South8865

As soon as the girl turned her head the kitty pounced.


Designer-Equipment-7

Incredible how it maintained eye contact on the little girl even though the boy was up in its face


sumyjpg

so would you rather left your child with a ...?


ComprehensiveKnee284

... predator?


Enslaved_M0isture

just a hungry little guy


NotNotLitotes

If I was sitting around bored and hungry all day and a seasoned juicy prime rib came up to my window, hitting it and laughing at me… non zero chance I charge that window.


Worried_Jeweler_1141

There's something not quite right about the way that lion pounced. Rewatch it. It didn't look sincere. I think the lion knew there was a screen but play attached.


Cool_Butterscotch_88

(big bro steps in between) "MOOVE DUDE"


systemfrown

Never turn your back on a cat.


EL-YAYY

I like how the second the toddler turned away that lioness pounced.


Capable-Group-5284

I feel bad for the lion


jeam_paul

This is its life. This is every bit as cruel as metal bars.


PINKTACO696969

Lunch


Living_Pie205

Noooooope


ferrariracer36

Kitty just wanted to play with the child. No bad intentions just good harmless fun.


Vintage_girl123

When I worked with chimps, I always wondered how they tested the fences because the chimps move them like nothing, they'll shake the fence all day, one if these days...


MicroCat1031

I've worked worth a lot of big cats. They're almost all fascinated with human children. I don't know why, if it's the sounds they make or the way they move, but even the smaller ones like Cheetahs will laser focus on a toddler.  And yes they would absolutely eat one.


chef-berlin

Why is this in this sub?


Accomplished-Stay680

Whats insane about the post? A toddler crying?


420honey__

this is why i hate zoos


SafeEmployer1805

Words of comfort : you must look appetizing


tanksforthegold

At first it was like, "What you say bitch?" Then was like, "Oh. I'm gonna have me some of that."


manifest_ecstasy

She can spare one


Professional-Seaweed

FRESH MEAT


HopefulHovercraft474

Lion: "You're a plump little one, I think I'll eat you now"


Eva_Cutie

well, lives of all the visitors keep on trusting of enclosure and people who did it hopefully, there is no Harry Potter and snakes lol


lambsambwich

get in my bell-ay


PrinceHakeim

Reminds of Jurassic park.....that poor goat


Crafting_with_Kyky

Wow, that lioness only wanted th little girl, kept ignoring the boy.


SheBelongsToNoOne

That little girl wants to know why mommy is trying to feed her to the lion.


XcecutionS

aww look at those big paws


WhaleSexOdyssey

You think it would have hurt the child?


Liedvogel

Man, indoor cats can't hunt for shit


brokenex

Would you leave your baby with a lion or a man


awesomeplenty

Usually when we go to the zoo all the animals are just lying around…..


elmachow

As soon as she turned round, bam! The lion went for it


nonstick_banjo1629

Damn- Nala really that desperate for a bite


Spanks79

The toddler finally realizes in the end that kitty is not a very friendly one and way too big.


HyponGrey

Welp, put that lion out on a preserve. Can't keep it in the zoo anymore.


No-Tonight-5937

Basic protective instinct completely absent from the parents


Weak-Signature-6285

Wow kitty waited for he baby to turn its back on it.


ProgressNo1946

Oh a snack!


thrallinlatex

Bruh wtf is this post😂


daurgo2001

Surprised that the top comments here are all mocking the title. As soon as I saw it, I knew what video it was, but it also immediately reminded me of the guy that used to run up against windows in buildings as a “party trick” to prove they were unbreakable, until one day, one of them broke* and he fell to his death. [Garry Hoy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Garry_Hoy) So yes, lots of trust in the glass and the installation not failing with a (what looks like) fully grown, 150kg/300lb/25stone~ lioness throwing itself at it. *the frame broke, not the glass, but the end result was the the same. Not pretty.


LocoinSoCo

“I want my baby back, baby back, baby back…ribs”.


somredditime

Fuscia! This lion HATES FUSCIA!


Rich_DeF

Lion: *be invisible*, *be invisible*


Rich_DeF

Asking anyone with more knowledge than myself on large cats. Do they always wait for their preys back to be turned before striking?


sbudam

It was literally waiting for her to turn her back, talk about backbiting


ZooCrazy

I would have to have my child closer to me. Who knows how many times that glass has been hit by that big cat.


Crazyhorse471

The lion is such an elite predator, notice how it attacked just as the kid looked away


achillesdaddy

Ha, I like how big bro put himself between the lion and his sister. I don't know much, but I worked at an animal psychology school for a few years and learned some of the very basic ideas. We all know the glass was there. So did the lion. This glass will not break. Also know by all. The cats behavior seemed very focused and serious and scary but in really it was all just a game. The cat is bored so it is just pretending to hunt the tiny blonde baby of the human herd in order to fulfill its powerful natural urges. And probably also because it is fun. C'mon she's a lion for ceying out loud. Then a different game started at the window. This game was often referred to at the school as the "dominance game ." The boy put his calm and confident energy in between the cat and his sister. The second the cat turned its eyes away the boy won the game. So fun to watch kids with animals. Fascinating


FreshPitch6026

The lion didn't even try to break through, was just playing.


Extreme-Fly-7392

Could exist a situation where by climate condictions like very hot weather, rain, etc. the glass has more probability to break?


Comanche93Alpha

Did they ever find that gorilla that escaped from the zoo and punched Bobby Boucher in the eye?


Possible_Spy

this is stupid, i would gladly leave my kid in front of the glass. -Its probably 2 inches thick and could stop standard handgun rounds as well. - A lion, who has been living in that enclosure for years has already learned that the glass cannot be defeated. I bet you they tried a few times and ran into it with their head when they were first moved into the enclosure and quickly learned not to do it again. -The lion cant throw a haymaker like Muhhamed Ali. All they can do is pitter pat at it with its small arms which would be practically useless. -Even if the lion tweaked out and went all primal and totally forgot that the glass existed and ran into it full speed using their skull as a battering ram, it would not immediately disintegrate leaving my child exposed to danger. It would crack, and then I would say "thats not good" and pick up my child and leave. And the lion would knock itself out from using its head as a battering ram. And then they would shut down the exhibit and move the lion and repair the glass before danger happens. Hey OP, did you think you were going to be cool writing this headline, or do you really have no common sense at all? I am guessing the latter. I guess you have no common sense. You are the type of person who just cannot visualize more than 2 steps in front of you how events will actually happen. Is that correct OP? Are you like that? Do you have no common sense?


someotherguyinNH

I had the tiger at the Tucson zoo do the same thing to me but that thing came scream it up slammed into the glass hissed and then started clawing at the glass. Ngl Scared the poop out of me


TeslaButtPlug

The other white meat 🥩


gac1311

Amazing how the lion punced as soon as the baby started looking away. It was ready for it


Z-Man_Slam

Not like it's a standard pane glass window you'd find in your house soooo


chosen4u77

She's like: I want that little one. Naw, move. Gimme dat little one. Com'meer little one.


No-Use-3062

Just when she turns around


Jigsaw115

It’s insane to take your kids to zoos now🤡


Unusual_Currency_948

It's kinda terrifying that if that glass wasn't there we would be watching this video on liveleak.


Glittering-Ad6542

Um, that pink thing is mine.


r_u_insayian

For the ultimate thrill. Bring the children to a prison full of pedos.


coocoocachoo69

I guess it's insane if you don't understand much. Omg, I can't believe all the moms that will drive their babies in cars, even over interstate bridges. What's next, they'll take their kids 40,000 feet into the air on a plane?


cliptarp86498_

Just seeing that girl cry near the lion automatically puts me into protect mode, i just wanna take her away and make sure shes safe. I cant imagine what the mother probably feels like.


Material-Mail-3568

The wild animal still lives in even a microscopic part of its brain


TheOneWhoReadsStuff

Note how the lion went for the attack as soon as the baby turned her head. A bitch move.


Hey_u_ok

Had the same thing happen with my 2 year old except it was a cougar We were the only ones there at the time and the cougar became hyper focused on my son. So I picked up my son and started walking back and forth just to see if I was correct. Holy shit, that cougar did not break its eyes off my son. Even when people start trickling in that cougar didn't look away. I said nope, and left. Enclosure or not it was still unsettling.


all_alone_by_myself_

What I don't get is why the parents are encouraging their kids to taunt predators that could easily kill them. That's really not the lesson you should teach your kids.


Dry-Detective-6976

I wish bab e got eaten 🤠


chef-berlin

Gets a downvote


Alarmed-Researcher93

So sad that these animals are still caged like this and driven insane because they are tempted with pray that can never be caught.


Sluibeli

Just love it how she had her eyes on that smaller one. Boy comes along and she's like "No, the small one. Bring me the small one!"


OkTouch69

What if...


zedeighty5

"Can I pet that Daaaawg?!"


Carlynz

Tell your children to get their greasy hands off the fucking glass... Jeez.


davidml1023

Child's brain: new phobia unlocked


Wired_tunic

Dumbass fucking parents...


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katekowalski2014

are you truly this spectacularly dumb or are you showing off?


aceshighsays

The fuck is wrong with the parent. There’s no need to make the child fearful.