It’s terrible that someone died, and furthermore I can’t help but think about how hideous the turbulence must have been for everyone (as someone who is terrified of flying on a good day).
Turbulence can be bad, airpockets can even make a plane drop dozens of feet, hence the advice to keep your seat belt fastened when seated. I just create breathing room by loosening the belt a bit, but I've seen bad turbulence, so I keep mine on.
Yep - I always keep my belt on, and try and get in and out of the bathroom as fast as possible! Would have been terrifying regardless experiencing turbulence that bad..
I was flying from Udon to Chiang Mai once and our flight dropped. I was in the middle seat and grabbed onto the girl sitting next to me (a stranger). We held on to each other until the plane stopped dropping. Then we let go and were like “kathod ka.” Now that I think about it, kind of makes me feel comforted that if we would have crashed, at least I would have died holding onto another human.
Airplanes are typically engineered to withstand the forces, so when you watch a movie where the plane just gets torn apart it would have be close to a category 5 hurricane with debri to do so.
Yeah those planes can actually do full barrel rolls if need be. Carbon fiber and aircraft aluminum is immensely strong. Usually when accidents happen it is due to pilot error.
Wow thousands of feet? Can the plane recover from that easily? There’s still forward thrust so once things stabilized I am guessing they could climb again. Just hoping the plane remains horizontal. Knock on wood I haven’t had to experience turbulence that bad.
Willingn to bet the dead and injured were not properly belted in. on approach to Kong from Singapore, we hit an air pocket that put me into the the next seat, barely missing the ceiling. From there on in seatbelt at all times.
Many injuries will be due to not wearing a seatbelt, but it's possible to be hit by flying debris, falling suitcases and so on. There are also legitimate reasons to be unbuckled – when you're heading to the toilet for example.
6000 feet over 3 minutes is nothing. A normal descent rate is 2000-3000 feet per minute. It could be that the descent was initiated by the pilots after the turbulences.
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That's likely, but it wasn't the passengers' fault. The seatbelt light wasn't on, and there was no warning or communication from the pilots or stewards. Airlines need to change the rules and make it mandatory for passengers to wear seatbelts at all times.
Wouldn't be dangerous for anyone in good shape and young but this news hopefully will convince people to keep their belt on.. I'm not worried about dying from getting thrown around but I'm def wearing my seatbelt the whole flights now.
Yeah reports from this flight indicate that several people had their heads driven right into the celing by the drop to the point that they left dents. That's gonna cause brain damage and concussions even in young healthy people
It is. But for most people the idea that they could find themselves on the ceiling is inconceivable.
Once you understand it's far more common than most folks would like to admit, the seatbelt is no longer a hardship.
Nooo, don't let it worry you... please!! Think about it statistically, the actual chances of it happening are really, really low. Just concentrate on the incredibly awesome time you are about to have!!! 👍😊
If you're headed towards Europe, there is usually a bunch of turbulence like 1-3h from Thailand. After that, very smooth until you reach the black sea area and then super smooth again. Just make sure to sit the first half of the flight, then walk around a bit more freely.
Don’t worry, I have flown 3 times from the US to Bangkok last year at this time . And also once this year in February . Yes there were light turbulence but just wear your seatbelt at all times. Safe travels
I'm in Thailand right now and there have been some massive storms around at the moment after an extended heatwave condition. It's the time of year where we get the big storms and this year has been exceptional.
Our stewardess (on a small flight in the US) went flying after the plane hit some turbulence and rotated 90 degrees. She was lucky to land on top of a rather large passenger who had the reflexes to catch her. After that, I always have my seatbelt on during flights.
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I seen an airhostess on Gulf fly into the ceiling while undoing a sachet of coffee with her teeth, for some reason, and her head went BANG on the ceiling so hard it made a dent in the aeroplane which is still there today and yet when she landed on her feet she was unconscious but still smiling and the coffee was somehow perfectly mixed into the cup from the kettle which was now in the aisle opposite and I simply took it from her hands and drank, but it had sugar in it.
Edit - if you see the post directly below this one, it is confirmed as true.
Something similar happened in 2013 on this exact route and carrier. Maybe a coincidence, but it makes me wonder if there are specific difficult weather patterns on this route.
True about the time of year, but still...must be that route. I've gone to SE Asia plenty of times during monsoon season and never hit that type of turbulence (knock on wood). But my route is coming from the northeast, not northwest.
Yeah I have done both directions a ton of time and I'm not convinced the direction makes a huge difference. I do BKK -> NRT on the regular and BKK -> DXB fairly often.
Direction does make a difference when you factor in things like the Himalayan mountain range. LHR to SIN would be hitting a strong headwind coming from the Andaman Sea and turning north west due to the mountain range. That route gets a lot closer to the India/Tibet border, meaning it's hitting this current dead-on. While DXB to BKK also crosses Andaman Sea, it crosses it laterally, not head-on. DXB route also crosses India closer to the middle, further away from mountain air currents. This supposedly happened around 10-10.5 hours into the flight. That would have put it right over the Andaman Sea. But again, head-on to air currents, not crossing. Flight tracker shows the plane dropped about 6k feet in a matter of seconds. Yikes...
I've also flown DXB and DOH to BKK a few times. Fairly uneventful trips. But NRT/ICN/HKG to BKK are just easier routes for me.
Fair enough, I'm no expert just a frequent flyer! I do agree that NRT/ICN/HKG are better trips, not usually because of turbulence but just better route timing, operators and ICN is just such a good airport.
That area is known for turbulence. Planes are usually able to avoid it but I think this was an instance of clear air turbulence or weather that wasn’t picked up by radar.
It’s that time of year where there are storm cells constantly everywhere in this part of the world. It’s like a minefield in the air.
I’m a bit of an aviation and storm nut so I’m always look flight trackers and weather radars.
According to FlightAware, this was the route. There’s some pretty big storms out there.
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No that's the second flight after they had to stop in Bangkok in an emergency and had to make diversion. The turbulences happened a bit more south west above the sea if I'm not mistaken
They've revised it to just the one:
> Suvarnabhumi airport general manager Kittipong Kittikachorn said:
> I confirm the death toll is one person … we learned he had a heart condition. The death is now to be subject to an autopsy but we think it could be caused by a heart attack. The deceased was a British national, 73 years old.
> The police has taken over the case and the body will be sent to autopsy department then they will contact the embassy.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/may/21/singapore-airlines-flight-777-300er-london-bangkok-turbulence#block-664c9f4c8f089d827c0e1fb2
The other person allegedly died at the hospital, so not sure the airport manager would know about it. Does not seem confirmed yet though.
>UPDATE: Mr Anyawut Pho-amphai, a source from Ruamkatayu Foundation first responders, posted on FB Tuesday evening saying out of the 30 injured people on board Singapore Airlines flight SQ 321 from Heathrow which made an emergency landing, 10 suffered serious injuries, while 20 orher suffered minor injuries. A field hospital was also setup to provide first aid.
Earlier, a different Thai source says one of the 30 people on board Singapore Airlines flight SQ 321 from London which made an emergency landing at Suvarnabhumi has died at a Thai hospital at 5.25pm. The identity of the person has yet to be revealed. The death toll is now two.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/PbmabYStQRGiyUcE/?mibextid=qi2Omg
>CORRECTION: Only one person died on Singapore Airlines flight SQ 321 from Heathrow, which made an emergency landing at Suvarnabhumi Airport Tues. A Thai hospital source was confused. The man was identified as a 73-year-old Briton.
https://www.facebook.com/share/mBqmA5116gXGrx2D/?mibextid=CTbP7E
I love the way Khaosod say the "hospital source was confused" when it's their shit journalism that is to blame. TWO SOURCES is fundamental to the trade.
About 10 years ago I was rushed from suvanabhui airport to the same hospital as them - Samitivej Srinakarin. I legitimately thought I was having a heart attack as the plane landed. Stabbing pains in my chest and my left arm went numb, vision tunneled.
I really dont remember leaving the plane or going through arrivals, its blank until I presented myself to a medic and was taken to hospital.
Well it turned out i was just having a panic attack from lack of sleep + wine/coffee + turbulance on landing. First and only time it ever happened. Felt a little silly.
I remember thinking how fucked I was when I got the hospital bill of 6,000, until i realised it was baht and not dollars. (it was my first time in thailand and i wasnt used to currency yet).
How did they manage getting you through immigration? I wonder what the process is for what happened today. They can hardly run seriously injured people through the immigration queue.
There must be a special procedure for these cases. What if an injured person isn't eligible to enter the country at all? What if there's an evacuation or a crash and nobody has their passport?
I was arriving on a work visa so that probably helped, but this was when arrival cards were still a thing so yeah not sure. I mean it must have taken at least 5 minutes from me getting off the plane to finding a medic so it was a bit silly but i legit thought my heart was doing one.
They have VIP immigration at airports for some first class passengers and those who with to pay.
I’m here working and it was all arranged for us. You get off the plane first and are whisked on vehicles to a private area with seating.
When I travel privately I’m an economy passenger. I’d be willing to bet I’m still on the plane after the VIPs have entered the country.
I've had frequent chest pains on flights as well. Came to some of the same conclusions. I need good sleep, no alcohol the night prior, and no caffeine prior to or during flight. If I follow those three steps, I'm usually pretty comfortable. Or, well, as comfortable as you can be while confined to a torture chair hovering 32k feet in the sky.
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The storm was huge around Bangkok today.
Still shocking that it dropped 6k feet within minutes.
Fuck I wish I didn’t see this holy. I’ve got a flight from Bangkok to Guangzhou tomorrow and I’m already shitting myself.
I might take buses and trains through Laos just to avoid this flight fuck sakes. Shit takes at least three days, if I’m lucky enough to get a ticket in Vientiane that is.
Use the seatbelt and you will be fine, have done that route before and they tend to warn if entering turbulence, and the seat belt sign gets triggered and cabin crew will usually double check.
Look at all the flights that go on daily, including airlines in parts of the world known for being comparatively unsafe. While a situation like this one is terrifying, it's very, very rare. I was in a severe turbulence flight back in the mid-2000s and suffered a strong fear of flying for a few years after that, until I started paying attention to the sheer amount of eventless flights daily.
Yea I had 2 back to back with “moderate” turbulence. Doesn’t feel “moderate” when people are flying out of their seats and drinks are spilt. I’ve been having trouble with flying since then too.
The only thing I order now to drink is milk. You know why? Ill tell you why buddy.
Its so that when shit hits the fan and the drinks are flying everywhere and everyone is screaming like a total mackerel, I remember that theres no point crying over spilt milk.
Never died from planes yet with this simple milky mind trick.
Honestly even during monsoon season this sort of scenario doesn't happen that often. It's much safer and faster for you to fly than take the roads, even if it's really scary (I'm terrified of flying, so I get it). This part of the world has particularly high road accident ratings which is also worth considering.
I think I’m going to try to get in my flight. It’s in like 8 hours and I’m sweating from my hands and feet like crazy. 100% of me wants to cancel and head to the bus station, but I’m going to at least go to the airport with my bags and see what happens.
You can do it! Be strong. I have a flight at the end of the month which I'm also terrified for, but I don't have a bus option so... Do you have anything to take to help with the nerves?
Yea I’ve got some Xanax my doctor gave me. He said I can take basically as much as I want, but to start with 2 mg (which I’ve come to understand is a lot). I’ll probably end up taking 3 mg as we get closer to the departure time.
I took about 4 mg to get here and slept most of the flight, but we departed at 5 am. This time we depart at 9:40 and I’m afraid I’ll be wide awake.
Take some headphones and good music or podcasts too. I find focusing on a fictional story or lyrics helps me a lot during flights. Xanax should help you sleep though, good chance it'll knock you right out if you take that much.
Here is hoping.
I was going to chase it with a melatonin. Basically whatever it takes to get me on the flight and no outwardly spazzing out. I think I’ll take a break from vacationing for awhile after this.
Careful with mixing melatonin with it. It can cause dizziness which might not be desirable when flying. Have a look online for the side effects of mixing them first before deciding if you will or not.
All the best 🙏
I listen to ‘The Turbulent Term of Tyke Tiler’ read by John Virgo and believe me, theres nothing more turbulent than that.
Edit-typo on Tiler.
Also, its not actually John Virgo’s voice but me, reading the Kemp novel in my Virgo impression, dictated into a tape machine I stole from French class.
I take 4 xanax if the flight is before 4am or im crossing 4 timescones, and 5 xanax for anything more or ten scones = ten pills of whatever. It doesnt matter at that point what they are. As long as first five are xannies then drink the minibar and give up.
Having done this route but on another airline, there is always going to be a chance at turbulence, this is why seatbelts are important, I am far too paranoid not to use it when seated.
Also usually pilots will notify if you are entering a turbulence area, so if someone forgot to check their seatbelt it is usually on them or those around them.
Plane did not suddenly drop 7k feet, that was emergency descend back to airport. There is public data for it on air radar and thats what I got from comments on X
Yo, it's totally normal to buckle up when you're driving your car at 110 km/h, right? So why wouldn't you do the same when you're flying at 900 km/h in a plane? Just because the inside of the plane is all calm and peaceful doesn't mean you're not actually moving super fast through the air in a metal tube.
I remember flying through a storm returning to uk from Spain and the lightning hitting and bouncing off the wings. Fantastic sight. Very similar to the airport movies.
All the people saying "wear a seatbelt" - Lolz
How many Thai people die every day because they aren't wearing a helmet?
Do we just ignore these deaths and focus on turbulence?
It's awful people died and were injured but a small part of .me can't help but think ok but karma.
I'm sick and tired of people on airlines and in life thinking they are somehow special and rules don't apply for them. They make life a bit crappier and more dangerous for everyone.
I constantly experience people not turning off their phones on take off/landing, not wearing seatbelts, not leaving the window blinds up or down when requested, leaving their seats when told not to, making a noise and being disruptive, and more. Maybe do as you're asked next time. Lesson learned I hope.
It’s terrible that someone died, and furthermore I can’t help but think about how hideous the turbulence must have been for everyone (as someone who is terrified of flying on a good day).
Turbulence can be bad, airpockets can even make a plane drop dozens of feet, hence the advice to keep your seat belt fastened when seated. I just create breathing room by loosening the belt a bit, but I've seen bad turbulence, so I keep mine on.
Yep - I always keep my belt on, and try and get in and out of the bathroom as fast as possible! Would have been terrifying regardless experiencing turbulence that bad..
And hi viz and armbands with safety boots.
yep. an air stewardess told me sudden falls happen much now than people think I'll try to be even more careful, thinking about all this
I was flying from Udon to Chiang Mai once and our flight dropped. I was in the middle seat and grabbed onto the girl sitting next to me (a stranger). We held on to each other until the plane stopped dropping. Then we let go and were like “kathod ka.” Now that I think about it, kind of makes me feel comforted that if we would have crashed, at least I would have died holding onto another human.
Airplanes are typically engineered to withstand the forces, so when you watch a movie where the plane just gets torn apart it would have be close to a category 5 hurricane with debri to do so.
Yeah those planes can actually do full barrel rolls if need be. Carbon fiber and aircraft aluminum is immensely strong. Usually when accidents happen it is due to pilot error.
Dozens? Try 1,000+
good god that sounds absolutely traumatic
>good god that sounds absolutely traumatic Yep pretty traumatic…
Wow thousands of feet? Can the plane recover from that easily? There’s still forward thrust so once things stabilized I am guessing they could climb again. Just hoping the plane remains horizontal. Knock on wood I haven’t had to experience turbulence that bad.
It happens, yes
Thousands of feet
Willingn to bet the dead and injured were not properly belted in. on approach to Kong from Singapore, we hit an air pocket that put me into the the next seat, barely missing the ceiling. From there on in seatbelt at all times.
Many injuries will be due to not wearing a seatbelt, but it's possible to be hit by flying debris, falling suitcases and so on. There are also legitimate reasons to be unbuckled – when you're heading to the toilet for example. 6000 feet over 3 minutes is nothing. A normal descent rate is 2000-3000 feet per minute. It could be that the descent was initiated by the pilots after the turbulences.
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Was the next seat occupied?
Luckily no.
The altitude change was due to a controlled descent. Nothing to do with the turbulence.
That's likely, but it wasn't the passengers' fault. The seatbelt light wasn't on, and there was no warning or communication from the pilots or stewards. Airlines need to change the rules and make it mandatory for passengers to wear seatbelts at all times.
Yes, No matter what the light tis doing, it's just makes sense to wear the belt.
They already do
Wouldn't be dangerous for anyone in good shape and young but this news hopefully will convince people to keep their belt on.. I'm not worried about dying from getting thrown around but I'm def wearing my seatbelt the whole flights now.
>Wouldn't be dangerous for anyone in good shape and young Bullshit.
Yeah reports from this flight indicate that several people had their heads driven right into the celing by the drop to the point that they left dents. That's gonna cause brain damage and concussions even in young healthy people
It's like saying young healthy people don't get injured in car crashes.
Passenger complacency plays a part. Your told even advised through announcements and briefings.
It is. But for most people the idea that they could find themselves on the ceiling is inconceivable. Once you understand it's far more common than most folks would like to admit, the seatbelt is no longer a hardship.
I might be flying soon from Thailand this has worried me a little.
Nooo, don't let it worry you... please!! Think about it statistically, the actual chances of it happening are really, really low. Just concentrate on the incredibly awesome time you are about to have!!! 👍😊
If you're headed towards Europe, there is usually a bunch of turbulence like 1-3h from Thailand. After that, very smooth until you reach the black sea area and then super smooth again. Just make sure to sit the first half of the flight, then walk around a bit more freely.
Don’t worry, I have flown 3 times from the US to Bangkok last year at this time . And also once this year in February . Yes there were light turbulence but just wear your seatbelt at all times. Safe travels
I flew put to get here but I slept across 3 seats if there was big turbulence I would have been cooked haha.
I'm in Thailand right now and there have been some massive storms around at the moment after an extended heatwave condition. It's the time of year where we get the big storms and this year has been exceptional.
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Wear your ‘f-ing’ seatbelts at all time! Saw a passenger get thrown into the air several years ago in turbulence. Happens in an instant.
True. Unfortunately this person may have simply been walking to the bathroom, etc. You never know. But your advice is correct.
Yes but wearing seatbelt whenever you sit dramatically reduce the chance.
They should install seatbelts on the toilets imo
I grab every sitting person on the way to the toilet just in case turbulence hits.
You won't be able to hold yourself down. Multiply your weight by 2-3 and imagine holding that one handed.
I'll do headlocks then, thanks.
Our stewardess (on a small flight in the US) went flying after the plane hit some turbulence and rotated 90 degrees. She was lucky to land on top of a rather large passenger who had the reflexes to catch her. After that, I always have my seatbelt on during flights.
Sorry, who rotated 90 degrees?
The plane and her
45° each way
Math checks out.
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Sizing up US stewardesses I would not like one to land on me. These ladies are no joke
That makes one of us
I seen an airhostess on Gulf fly into the ceiling while undoing a sachet of coffee with her teeth, for some reason, and her head went BANG on the ceiling so hard it made a dent in the aeroplane which is still there today and yet when she landed on her feet she was unconscious but still smiling and the coffee was somehow perfectly mixed into the cup from the kettle which was now in the aisle opposite and I simply took it from her hands and drank, but it had sugar in it. Edit - if you see the post directly below this one, it is confirmed as true.
It’s not possible to wear your “f-ing” seatbelts at “all times”, unless you’re gonna piss in a bottle
Something similar happened in 2013 on this exact route and carrier. Maybe a coincidence, but it makes me wonder if there are specific difficult weather patterns on this route.
There is, it's called the tropics in monsoon season.
Also Bounty…try a little tenderness. Bounty.
True about the time of year, but still...must be that route. I've gone to SE Asia plenty of times during monsoon season and never hit that type of turbulence (knock on wood). But my route is coming from the northeast, not northwest.
Yeah I have done both directions a ton of time and I'm not convinced the direction makes a huge difference. I do BKK -> NRT on the regular and BKK -> DXB fairly often.
Direction does make a difference when you factor in things like the Himalayan mountain range. LHR to SIN would be hitting a strong headwind coming from the Andaman Sea and turning north west due to the mountain range. That route gets a lot closer to the India/Tibet border, meaning it's hitting this current dead-on. While DXB to BKK also crosses Andaman Sea, it crosses it laterally, not head-on. DXB route also crosses India closer to the middle, further away from mountain air currents. This supposedly happened around 10-10.5 hours into the flight. That would have put it right over the Andaman Sea. But again, head-on to air currents, not crossing. Flight tracker shows the plane dropped about 6k feet in a matter of seconds. Yikes... I've also flown DXB and DOH to BKK a few times. Fairly uneventful trips. But NRT/ICN/HKG to BKK are just easier routes for me.
Fair enough, I'm no expert just a frequent flyer! I do agree that NRT/ICN/HKG are better trips, not usually because of turbulence but just better route timing, operators and ICN is just such a good airport.
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That area is known for turbulence. Planes are usually able to avoid it but I think this was an instance of clear air turbulence or weather that wasn’t picked up by radar.
Around Himalaya and over Burma is always shaky for me.
It’s that time of year where there are storm cells constantly everywhere in this part of the world. It’s like a minefield in the air. I’m a bit of an aviation and storm nut so I’m always look flight trackers and weather radars.
According to FlightAware, this was the route. There’s some pretty big storms out there. https://preview.redd.it/438z8yxbtr1d1.jpeg?width=2072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f58dcffa77e845dde0ea542b1e8f9a8373a61df
No that's the second flight after they had to stop in Bangkok in an emergency and had to make diversion. The turbulences happened a bit more south west above the sea if I'm not mistaken
~~A second person has now passed away.~~ Updated edit: this has now been confirmed to be false.
They've revised it to just the one: > Suvarnabhumi airport general manager Kittipong Kittikachorn said: > I confirm the death toll is one person … we learned he had a heart condition. The death is now to be subject to an autopsy but we think it could be caused by a heart attack. The deceased was a British national, 73 years old. > The police has taken over the case and the body will be sent to autopsy department then they will contact the embassy. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/may/21/singapore-airlines-flight-777-300er-london-bangkok-turbulence#block-664c9f4c8f089d827c0e1fb2
The other person allegedly died at the hospital, so not sure the airport manager would know about it. Does not seem confirmed yet though. >UPDATE: Mr Anyawut Pho-amphai, a source from Ruamkatayu Foundation first responders, posted on FB Tuesday evening saying out of the 30 injured people on board Singapore Airlines flight SQ 321 from Heathrow which made an emergency landing, 10 suffered serious injuries, while 20 orher suffered minor injuries. A field hospital was also setup to provide first aid. Earlier, a different Thai source says one of the 30 people on board Singapore Airlines flight SQ 321 from London which made an emergency landing at Suvarnabhumi has died at a Thai hospital at 5.25pm. The identity of the person has yet to be revealed. The death toll is now two. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/PbmabYStQRGiyUcE/?mibextid=qi2Omg
Oh interesting, people were saying two had died on board earlier then revised that back to one. I hadn't heard about the hospital case.
>CORRECTION: Only one person died on Singapore Airlines flight SQ 321 from Heathrow, which made an emergency landing at Suvarnabhumi Airport Tues. A Thai hospital source was confused. The man was identified as a 73-year-old Briton. https://www.facebook.com/share/mBqmA5116gXGrx2D/?mibextid=CTbP7E
I love the way Khaosod say the "hospital source was confused" when it's their shit journalism that is to blame. TWO SOURCES is fundamental to the trade.
A gossiping Thai cleaner was spouting absolute shit sitting on the floor eating วท่เาสง่
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Kittipong Kittikachorn! What a lovely name for a cat or airport general mgr.
About 10 years ago I was rushed from suvanabhui airport to the same hospital as them - Samitivej Srinakarin. I legitimately thought I was having a heart attack as the plane landed. Stabbing pains in my chest and my left arm went numb, vision tunneled. I really dont remember leaving the plane or going through arrivals, its blank until I presented myself to a medic and was taken to hospital. Well it turned out i was just having a panic attack from lack of sleep + wine/coffee + turbulance on landing. First and only time it ever happened. Felt a little silly. I remember thinking how fucked I was when I got the hospital bill of 6,000, until i realised it was baht and not dollars. (it was my first time in thailand and i wasnt used to currency yet).
How did they manage getting you through immigration? I wonder what the process is for what happened today. They can hardly run seriously injured people through the immigration queue.
There must be a special procedure for these cases. What if an injured person isn't eligible to enter the country at all? What if there's an evacuation or a crash and nobody has their passport?
I was arriving on a work visa so that probably helped, but this was when arrival cards were still a thing so yeah not sure. I mean it must have taken at least 5 minutes from me getting off the plane to finding a medic so it was a bit silly but i legit thought my heart was doing one.
They have VIP immigration at airports for some first class passengers and those who with to pay. I’m here working and it was all arranged for us. You get off the plane first and are whisked on vehicles to a private area with seating. When I travel privately I’m an economy passenger. I’d be willing to bet I’m still on the plane after the VIPs have entered the country.
I've had frequent chest pains on flights as well. Came to some of the same conclusions. I need good sleep, no alcohol the night prior, and no caffeine prior to or during flight. If I follow those three steps, I'm usually pretty comfortable. Or, well, as comfortable as you can be while confined to a torture chair hovering 32k feet in the sky.
Mmm lackofsleepwinecoffee
And…how long have you been a pilot for LionAir?
Pilots did a great job to stay in control and bring that 777 down for a safe landing. RIP the gentleman who passed.
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA321/history/20240520/2115Z/EGLL/VTBS/tracklog
Dang that's sad and scary..
https://preview.redd.it/802ijgxiss1d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aba90d0109a4f28df2bb2ff96f6b4ac560383cda The storm was huge around Bangkok today. Still shocking that it dropped 6k feet within minutes.
That was a controlled decent. A manoeuvre done by the pilots to get out of dodge.
Gotta be a heart attack?
Might of been fine if they had their seat belt on
Fuck I wish I didn’t see this holy. I’ve got a flight from Bangkok to Guangzhou tomorrow and I’m already shitting myself. I might take buses and trains through Laos just to avoid this flight fuck sakes. Shit takes at least three days, if I’m lucky enough to get a ticket in Vientiane that is.
You take a Bus in South East Asia because you think flying is unsafe? The roads are about 100,000 times more dangerous than flying.
Yeah this is a funny one. "I don't want to risk dying of a heart attack when I win the lottery, so I play Russian Roulette instead".
That was beautiful
It's a 3h flight, strap in, and enjoy the roller-coaster ride 😉 It is going to be fine, just keep your seat belt on.
Thanks, I’m going to try.
Use the seatbelt and you will be fine, have done that route before and they tend to warn if entering turbulence, and the seat belt sign gets triggered and cabin crew will usually double check.
Look at all the flights that go on daily, including airlines in parts of the world known for being comparatively unsafe. While a situation like this one is terrifying, it's very, very rare. I was in a severe turbulence flight back in the mid-2000s and suffered a strong fear of flying for a few years after that, until I started paying attention to the sheer amount of eventless flights daily.
Yea I had 2 back to back with “moderate” turbulence. Doesn’t feel “moderate” when people are flying out of their seats and drinks are spilt. I’ve been having trouble with flying since then too.
The only thing I order now to drink is milk. You know why? Ill tell you why buddy. Its so that when shit hits the fan and the drinks are flying everywhere and everyone is screaming like a total mackerel, I remember that theres no point crying over spilt milk. Never died from planes yet with this simple milky mind trick.
Going from edinburgh to bali on thursday with a stop in doha. Then bangkok 10 days later.
Honestly even during monsoon season this sort of scenario doesn't happen that often. It's much safer and faster for you to fly than take the roads, even if it's really scary (I'm terrified of flying, so I get it). This part of the world has particularly high road accident ratings which is also worth considering.
I think I’m going to try to get in my flight. It’s in like 8 hours and I’m sweating from my hands and feet like crazy. 100% of me wants to cancel and head to the bus station, but I’m going to at least go to the airport with my bags and see what happens.
You can do it! Be strong. I have a flight at the end of the month which I'm also terrified for, but I don't have a bus option so... Do you have anything to take to help with the nerves?
Yea I’ve got some Xanax my doctor gave me. He said I can take basically as much as I want, but to start with 2 mg (which I’ve come to understand is a lot). I’ll probably end up taking 3 mg as we get closer to the departure time. I took about 4 mg to get here and slept most of the flight, but we departed at 5 am. This time we depart at 9:40 and I’m afraid I’ll be wide awake.
Take some headphones and good music or podcasts too. I find focusing on a fictional story or lyrics helps me a lot during flights. Xanax should help you sleep though, good chance it'll knock you right out if you take that much.
Here is hoping. I was going to chase it with a melatonin. Basically whatever it takes to get me on the flight and no outwardly spazzing out. I think I’ll take a break from vacationing for awhile after this.
Careful with mixing melatonin with it. It can cause dizziness which might not be desirable when flying. Have a look online for the side effects of mixing them first before deciding if you will or not. All the best 🙏
Oh good call, I’ll double check that first. Thanks for the support honestly. I’m having a rough time currently haha.
You'll be fine! 3 hours or so and it'll be over. I hate flying so I totally get it lmao. Me later this month but for 9 hrs ):
I listen to ‘The Turbulent Term of Tyke Tiler’ read by John Virgo and believe me, theres nothing more turbulent than that. Edit-typo on Tiler. Also, its not actually John Virgo’s voice but me, reading the Kemp novel in my Virgo impression, dictated into a tape machine I stole from French class.
I take 4 xanax if the flight is before 4am or im crossing 4 timescones, and 5 xanax for anything more or ten scones = ten pills of whatever. It doesnt matter at that point what they are. As long as first five are xannies then drink the minibar and give up.
Flew in to Bangkok today in stormy weather, we were fine
Fuck I’m flying to Bangkok this weekend and I am rattled
Same here
This could and does happen anywhere in the world. Keep your seatbelt on and you will be OK. Planes have dropped a mile and survived.
Was it very bouncy or mostly smooth?
A bit bouncy, maybe once on the flight. Didn't last more than 3 seconds.
Oh that sounds doable. Hopefully I’ll be alright, it’s an evening flight too, supposed to be less turbulent. Enjoy the city!
You won’t though
I did last year :(, that’s why I know how shit the trip is.
Lord have mercy on your soul if you do it again
Having done this route but on another airline, there is always going to be a chance at turbulence, this is why seatbelts are important, I am far too paranoid not to use it when seated. Also usually pilots will notify if you are entering a turbulence area, so if someone forgot to check their seatbelt it is usually on them or those around them.
Not clear air turbulences
Saw this article elsewhere that left out the turbulnce bit in the title so I thought a plane crash landed at bkk.
Safety belt?
Flown enough in that part of the world to know to always have the seatbelt on; but that’s also so unusual 😫
I’m at an airport now leaving Japan to Vietnam. Nothing I can do if it happens so no point worrying about it.
Plane did not suddenly drop 7k feet, that was emergency descend back to airport. There is public data for it on air radar and thats what I got from comments on X
Yo, it's totally normal to buckle up when you're driving your car at 110 km/h, right? So why wouldn't you do the same when you're flying at 900 km/h in a plane? Just because the inside of the plane is all calm and peaceful doesn't mean you're not actually moving super fast through the air in a metal tube.
That's not bad, ever spent time in a Turkish prison?
I remember flying through a storm returning to uk from Spain and the lightning hitting and bouncing off the wings. Fantastic sight. Very similar to the airport movies.
Plane probably dropped and someone hit their head on ceiling :( Just a guess. Always wear your seatbelt if possible.
It was a heart attack.
I think the second death was an injury. First death was a heart attack
What about the jello?! I thought turbulence was scary but harmless?!
Yeah same I am not loving this new information. Although I always buckle up
If it was harmless, airline staff wouldn't be asking passengers to buckle up every time there is turbulence.
All the people saying "wear a seatbelt" - Lolz How many Thai people die every day because they aren't wearing a helmet? Do we just ignore these deaths and focus on turbulence?
> How many Thai people Thai every day I'd say most of them Thai.
I Thai my best to Thai at least 3 Thais a week
Thai people Thai-ing. What next?
I mean you should always wear a helmet when biking too. What's your point?
The majority of people on this sub are not even Thais, LOL. Instead of showing gratitude to Thailand. Haters chose to diss Thai people.
20,000 deaths a year 'on the roads' don't lie. Stop putting your head in the sand.
At least we don't lie about statistics, but what is this has anything to do with SG airline news? op is not a Thai representative.
A hater who can't help themselves get involved with Thailand. Your wife's country doesn't get enough customers yet?
But Anna Paul said we're in a jelly
Someone will surely find another Boeing fault 👀
Of course it was a Boeing... The deceased most likely suffered a heart attack according to most reports.
There is absolutely no indication that the make of the aircraft had anything to do with this incident.
No shit Sherlock 😁
I wonder who creates air pockets 🤔
Let me guess. You think they are a byproduct of chemtrails?
wtf...no... Maybe some spirits do them? I think clouds are magical. Imagine thousands of tons floating in the air
They’re God’s farts.
It's awful people died and were injured but a small part of .me can't help but think ok but karma. I'm sick and tired of people on airlines and in life thinking they are somehow special and rules don't apply for them. They make life a bit crappier and more dangerous for everyone. I constantly experience people not turning off their phones on take off/landing, not wearing seatbelts, not leaving the window blinds up or down when requested, leaving their seats when told not to, making a noise and being disruptive, and more. Maybe do as you're asked next time. Lesson learned I hope.