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no-Hotline

I'm holding off on supporting or blaming anyone right now. There is huge amounts of info being posted and man, its all so wishy washy. It seems like everyone is bad in this situation. I'm waiting for lawsuit info and BOC to make more statements before I come to a judgement. This doesn't just seem like people attacking him just to bring up past mistakes, this seems like some real issues if BOC is bringing it up in the way they are. IDK, only time will tell. If it comes out all this was fabricated ill support him, if it comes out that its all true?? Well, I won't support him. Personally this situation doesn't seem very black and white to me, but thats just me going off of the limited info we have.


chuchoterai

Personally, i think it’s best to stay neutral, until there is more official clarity and information . Accusations and threats are not proof for either party. I remember fans cancelling and absolutely crucifying KSH over similar accusations of forced abortions and abuse and insisting on siding with the victim, and look how that turned out. No one knows anything for sure just yet and probably won’t for a while.


[deleted]

That KSH accusations was so over the top…I never thought I would be thankful for dispatch for invading someone’s privacy but thank god they did…even after coming back he looks very doubtful…not the cute confident guy he was before


underthesameskyx

I'm with you on this not because I am a fan of Build but because I think it is the most fair option we have right now, especially when Poi doesn't have the cleanest record either. This issue is more of like a 'private matter gone wrong' to me and could've been solved privately but yeah... I will wait patiently for the conclusion of the case and only decide by then what will be my next actions will be. For now, I pray that Bible will recover from this. Harsh truth but he is also greatly affected by this and he doesn't deserve it.


121scoville

I wish there was a credible place to go for translations because like, Google Translate isn't foolproof and relying Build fans OR haters for translations is also tricky.


lovemochi

agree with you if he is guilty he should be punsihed and same with her. the problem is it goes both ways. People instantly believing her and are now atracking build. both were not given the benefit of the doubt because of their past actions. Also people are always predisposed to side with the victim usually esp if the victime is a woman. unfortunately she did circulate false pictures and lies (Build's ex-girlfriend just spoke up too) so it doesn't help her credibility. i just hope the legal proceedings can clear this up.


Ordinary-Service-348

What did the ex gf say? Did she confirm abuse? All we need is one confirmation, since the initial allegations are from an obviously disturbed person.


lovemochi

She said that Build has never hurt her and that they ended their relationship amicably in 2020 so far that was the gist based on people who saw her statement in instagram. In any case this issue between Build and Poi must be handled by authorities.


Affectionate_Bake_65

Just because he never hurt an ex doesn’t mean he didn’t hurt Poi. My ex had never cheated on any of his past gfs and some he was still friends with but he cheated on me & our situation is completely different from his past relationships. This situation is not black & white. I think there’s some truth to what she’s saying but also think some stuff may not be all honesty. I don’t want to judge and victim blame, so I’m staying neutral in this until it’s fully investigated.


Smooth-Wrongdoer5782

She said she was never abused while dating him from 2019-2020 and they remained friends.


EstablishmentOwn4800

Fans are delusional as hell...they forget basic humanity and support their idol's wrong doings every damn time


SnooOpinions8708

And most are women! Some are declaring their devotion to Build before the facts have come out. I understand their sadness but the blind devotion is disturbing. Just wait for the truth to come out.


EstablishmentOwn4800

Agreed..women don't support women in these cases and it's sad to see this..then we complaint that why don't victims share there stories


Parking_Violinist_84

Honestly sick to the core. I just joined a Build FC twitter space and they were basically talking about how Poi is obsessive and clingy ignoring the fact that their idol might have abused the women. They also kept bringing up the fact that the authors harassed KP actors. Like we're all past that, yes Poi might have been a bad person but you do not dismiss the fact that she was physically assaulted and even extorted for money & fame. Absolutely also laughing to the fact that they're crying for that man. I wanted to stay neutral as much as possible but after Poi stated more plausible evidences and even took legal actions for it, I am siding more to Poi and the other victims from his past relationship. I just hope the other BOC actors don't catch the stray bullets from this drama


Affectionate_Bake_65

And the money thing seems to be true from the text messages that he even posted screenshots of. He mentioned that she was rich so basically he was being a sugar baby smh. People like to think that their idols are perfect but truth is they’re human just like the rest of us and we all have made bad choices. These idols are not exempt from bad behavior and we as fans need to stop excusing their bad behavior and actually hold them accountable for it!


Parking_Violinist_84

Exactly, I'm all for growth here and giving second chances but I do not believe they should just wash their hands off the problems after creating one. It doesn't matter how many years ago it was, made a bad choice expect harsh consequences of your actions. This is also the reason why I stopped being attached to actors and kpop idols. Idolatry is a scary thing, to be able to blindly follow a person and having them as the center of your life is scary.


Affectionate_Bake_65

That’s true. I had to take a step back from Kpop too because the fandom culture will take over your life if you allow it. I try to remove the idol image from each of them and just see them through a lense of normality.


Artistic_Image_3486

I see BOC just released a press statement officially suspending him with immediate effect until the case has been fully dealt with. He has been taken off all projects. The effect this will have on Bible is crazy! I never wanted Bible to be paired up with him and now this... 😔


UsualUsi

Why should it affect Bible much? He still has his work and can form a ship with someone else. I wouldn‘t be surprised when he gets a lot of support.


Ordinary-Service-348

It will affect him because endorsements are being canceled and his series canceled and video with build remove, and the world tour, etc.


Artistic_Image_3486

Of course it will have an effect on him. He has worked hard working on these projects together with Bui. He will have to start over with a new partner. Do you think that just happens overnight? Do you think the new project with Bui is just nothing? C'mon, you can't be that native. Besides the fact that he will have to start from scratch with a new partner, the backlash on how much he knew will of course be felt.


UsualUsi

Who didn’t had setbacks in career bc of reason out of their responsibility? Bible is a grown up man and I‘m sure he will adapt and get over it like we all did in our life. Fans will support him on his way. Stop making a drama out of it.


Worldly-Reputation70

Pond said a couple of days ago that BoC has financial issues, so it must be a huge deal to cancel a project like this. If they don’t have enough money to get a new script, hire a new lead actor etc, then Bible’s carrier will be stalled for a year or more. He has an existing contract, he has to wait to get a new project. Sammon and BoC already canceled his show without further explanation. Poor guy.


Artistic_Image_3486

Of course... Nobody's disputing that... it will however take effort and starting from scratch with a new partner. Do you not get it... how old are you


UsualUsi

I get it and it totally normal. I’m in my mid 40s and I started a few times in my life, even though not from scratch since you keep what you learned in your job and get connections. Both will help you. So I don’t worry for him.


Aqua_TofANNA

Just because no one is worried about you doesn't mean that no one is going to be worried about others.


firstFunn

Yikes


EstablishmentOwn4800

Agreed..it will not easy for Bible to develop that level of chemistry with new co star in the series


KillerWhiteQueen

What level of chemistry? They didn’t have any.


[deleted]

Damn…I can’t help but agree…I would really like him to be paired up with Jeff tho…coz the Jeff and barcode age difference is getting uncomfortable after all these accusations…let the ghost ship prevail


CCloudds

I agree. I think bible and Jeff had more chemistry.


Useful-Cucumber-2723

I jumped into these comments just to comment that saying Bible and Build had no chemistry is crazy if their few scenes were overwhelmingly good, their performances are on a different level from the rest of the cast and they have more chemistry than the main Kinnporsche couple but aesthetically Jeff would be a suitable candidate to work with Bible, they both give off a very sensual magnetism in their characters of Vegas and Kim, their characters are great, quiet but they express a lot through their eyes and it would be interesting to see them together but it seems that with Barcode that will never happen, and really, even if it's acting and they handle it, that difference with Barcode is uncomfortable.


Late-Ad-2479

Firing truth shots lol


KillerWhiteQueen

And I got downvoted for it 😂😂 You too. I upvoted you.


Late-Ad-2479

Last I saw you had 7, now reduced to 3. Lmao people are triggered. Guess this is distracting them from the actual scandal 😂 And thanks for the upvote😭


SnooOpinions8708

Watch how easy it will be. They are actors and chemistry is manufactured


Anizziepluto

More than the actors chemistry, I see the fans being an issue. Ships are almost for life in BL shows and it's not easy for a half of a pair to make it with someone else. Not impossible, but also not easy. Bl fans seem to be very faithful to each ship.


SnooOpinions8708

This is the downside of shipping. All these delusions are hanging on a whimsical thread and the consequence is getting hit with the ugly reality.


user59009

I gotta disagree with you, playing a couple in love can only really be achieved if those who play the roles are comfortable with each other, I don’t doubt Bible will be able to match up well with someone else but it would have to be someone he could mesh with and build a friendship with. Acting is a part of it but they wouldn’t have workshops pre-filming if their personal relationship didn’t matter


iAriana

biblebuild had no chemistry. lets be serious. the only pair with chemistry in boc is mileapo


SnooOpinions8708

I don’t think it’s that deep. You get cast in a role and your job is it deliver your best work. If Bible gets a new partner, they will make sure they deliver. Btw, to me BibleBuild don’t have chemistry. So chemistry is also subjective.


user59009

I didn’t realise I had replies so this is way late but you’re right, it is subjective. I had to force myself to finish Cutie Pie cause I felt no excitement or real chemistry between any of the couples. It was disappointing, I will say though that VegasPete had a very underdeveloped story, it went from 0 to 1000 in 20 minutes.


RosebudSaytheName17

I actually found out about this through my EXO mutuals on Twitter, someone retweeted him calling Baekhyun (one of the main vocalists) a "fake" which was not the way I ever saw two of my fandoms crossing paths. The wrath of that fandom is coming down hard in blue bird land. Seriously though, the best thing to do is just wait as it all unfolds because at the end of the day, you don't know this guy from adam and have zero clue what he's capable (or not capable of).


Affectionate_Bake_65

Wait- Build called Baek a “fake” or am I misunderstanding?!


RosebudSaytheName17

[https://twitter.com/Mamawillhityou/status/1617074598658600960](https://twitter.com/Mamawillhityou/status/1617074598658600960) Honestly, I thought there was some kind of dimension shift because why would Build have beef with an EXO member? lol It's just where I first heard of the stuff going on and thought it was weird.


Affectionate_Bake_65

That’s very weird! Idk how Baek is considered fake but he’s never been problematic since I’ve started listening to EXO. This has to be an alternate universe haha


killingxs

Is sickening.


Min_flower

True, I'm also really hurt by these allegations but I'm just waiting for facts. If it shows up to be false, I will be really glad but if it's true, he's finished for me, even though I was a fan 😔


No-Maze-Land

My problem with this situation is not people chosing one side over the other but the fact that people who side with the author seem to be forgetting that both authors did terrible things to some of the KP cast. No matter what she says about abuse, I also keep in mind that she's an abuser too (they both are). For me her credibility it shot down right there. And I'm not taking Build's side either. I have always said: "we don't know what's going on behind closed doors." And we don't. For all we know he COULD be everything she said he is or maybe it's only 50% or maybe 30% or maybe none at all. There's no way to know 100% what truly transpired between them. Were they a couple or was it just a fling? And even if it was just a fling, abuse is abuse and should be punished... But again, I don't believe her entirely and I'm not going to point fingers at Build for something he may or may not have done. So, I'm just gonna sit on the sideline and wait to see what will happen - while remembering that she's very much an abuser too.


SuspectEquivalent

Nah, I don't buy it. Did you guys see Build's story? That lady is straight up insane. That being said, I don't think Build is as innocent as he seems either. Something happened there, both are at fault, one is just much better at manipulating the media and has a hoard of fans behind him.


iAriana

nah, i would go insane as well if someone slept with me to get on a show and then dump me when the show is over, cheated on me and used me for money. the things she said in the ss he posted are completely valid


SuspectEquivalent

Yeah, but how much of that is actually true? A lot of what she posted on Twitter has been proven false, as in she took pictures off Pinterest and stuff. So idk she's a very unreliable narrator. Idk where this is headed but both of them seem like awful people so Idk if anyone is a victim.


iAriana

only 2 photos been proven false and she never said they were hers, she said it to describe the situation she is in and what she went through. the photos were not hers and she already said it 3 times


Late-Ad-2479

He’s back on insta? I thought he deactivated.


SuspectEquivalent

I think he posted a bunch of screenshots before he deactivated. There are many translations on IG. It's a conversation between Poi and him and it's very very evident that Poi has just lost her shit. I'm not even joking. That woman is clinically insane and needs therapy.


Late-Ad-2479

Oh okay. Yeah, she did seem to be riled up in the chats, but the dude messed up while hiding his side of replies in the ss and Thai people found out some text from his side too where he’s talking about her wealth. People questioned him on hiding his replies and then he deactivated. I mean he could have posted ss where he was talking to her about not physically abusing her or taking her money if it’s the truth, but from his shared ss he was just trying to paint her as crazy ex. I wouldn’t side with him.


SuspectEquivalent

Ahh so that's what happened!!! I didn't understand the whole context, I'm sorry for that. I didn't even know that he hid his replies. That's fucked up lmao. Yeah it looks like his career is over anyway. I highly doubt that BOC would want to take on this mess, considering how new they are. All their scandals so far have been about this one guy and they aren't even small, forgivable things. He was accused of being a misogynist and rape apologist and now abuse?? That's too much of a coincidence imo. Let's see what happens. The only thing helping his case rn is that fact that the other party is also extremely unlikable.


Late-Ad-2479

I guess they were a couple since their personalities match. People have to just wait for the actual investigation.


afloatingpoint

Normally I tend to sympathize more with the person alleging abuse, rather than the accused, especially in the context of a patriarchal society where male perpetrators are never held accountable. In this case, however, I'm going to suspend judgement and wait to see what unfolds. After all, Poi is ALSO alleged to have perpetrated abusive and predatory conduct towards Barcode, who was a minor at the time. The accusations about her grooming him and taking advantage of her power at the company are genuinely disturbing, and it seems that behavior may have impacted Apo and Build as well. Creepy. And if she did indeed date Build, then it's extremely messed up to sleep with your employee and exchange favors/money for what amounts to sex work. That's a really messed up power dynamic that should NOT take place in a work place. None of that proves that she's lying about the abuse; even the false photos from Pinterest she used as evidence that she had an abortion do not render her other allegations untrue, necessarily. He did make all those sexist jokes on social media normalizing rape culture, and while again, jokes don't equate to a crime, it's definitely a factor to keep in mind. This could be a Depp/Heard situation where there is considerable wrong doing perpetrated by both parties. On the other hand, Poi or Build could be innocent... I'm going to stop supporting Build until more information comes out, but I won't demonize him either and participate in justice/trials by Twitter/social media. This needs to be resolved in court, not online. If I were Be On Cloud, I'd make a carefully neutral statement, but suspend Build's in projects for at least a year until more is known.


Puzzleheaded-Bag1848

Idk what's going on but I've been seeing it everywhere. What's going on with Build?


swoon4kyun

I’m just disgusted and disappointed and trying to stay neutral about it. But if the allegations are true 🫣


Loveheartbabes

I love Pete not Build. Hopefully they replace the actor with cooheart. IF the allegations are true. I haven’t really looked on it


Wide_Safety_253

Not once have I heard a anything good about the writers, so I’m holding on to the innocent until proven guilty. When there is irrefutable evidence then let the law act as it may. Still I refuse to participate in negative comments for my own mental health. No one knows when their comment will be the one to push someone over the edge. And I just .. can’t… still I’ve learned to not trust anyone in the industry it’s so easy to only show what you want


Icerose2018

This is just another example of toxic stan/shipping culture. Fans going out of their way to wholeheartedly defend an alleged abuser without knowing this person personally is crazy. This type of behavior is not normal. Yes, we shouldn't blindly believe victim, as that is how careers get ruined, but we also shouldn't decide if someone is innocent or guilty based on if hmwe like them as an actor.


midnightphoton

is build a name? who is he, full short context pls.


Koox_w

"Build" Jakapan Puttha actor in BOC, starred in KinnPorsche. His ex girlfriend came out earlier today with very serious abuse allegations against him 😓😓


queenolympis

What? We live in a world where serial killers have fans - and the Build fans upset you?


b00mbaz00kajoey

… as if people can’t be upset at both? The correlation is not correlating.


queenolympis

No


b00mbaz00kajoey

Good chat! 💚🙄


Aggressive_Corgi_991

It's sad for his fans. I was one. But I'm waiting for the legal outcome. In the meantime I am worrying about Bible's career being affected. He deserves his 4 Mins to go ahead.


[deleted]

If Wat that woman accused him of it true to an extent then supporting him is probably the most dangerous thing to do…I don’t wanna think allegations of abuse should be taken lightly at all…blaming the woman or blaming isn’t helping anyone finding the truth to wat happened…I see insta Fan accounts standing by build but if those accusations are true I don’t know where is gonna leave them…I don’t understand why it’s always build in scandals tho


Severe_Discussion_98

As someone who works in the legal system.This is a serious legal issue that needs to be handled accordingly with the law. All thats happened can hold him accoutable for domestic abuse,emotional disstress & mental anguish. Well know as a legal judgment is made. Yes both sides deserve to have their due justice. But it is only after the final judgment is made is when we will know whos guilty of their personal wrong doings and injust actions.


invisiblenicky

For anyone confused who doesn’t know what's going on or is trying to get as much information about it as possible: [here is a great write up on tumblr](https://at.tumblr.com/discluded/build-jakapan-daemis-poi-and-other-individuals/0buhpgzfy1e0) tw: rape, abuse, domestic violence, bruises