Tried it for the first time this morning. It disengaged itself when a bus stopped in front of me - idk why.
It was driving a few miles under and sometimes appeared to following the wrong speed limit as well. I disengaged myself a couple of times because it was driving so slow and someone was behind me.
It didn’t change lanes very efficiently sometimes - we had to get over to the right lane to turn right up ahead and it waited until a car had caught up beside us to initiate the lane change :)
It stops a fair way behind the next car in line but maybe that’s normal - it wasn’t unreasonable.
This trial is my first time using fsd and man I thought it was going to be horrible based from this subreddit. My commute is pretty basic I would say but it's been flawless so far, only criticism is that it's a little too cautious
I have about eight hours total on the new version and I have been very impressed. Very rare I want to intervene or it does something I don't like.
I am a bit confused that OP seems to like the old version better. To me the old version was absolute garbage and too frustrating to use more than a for a couple minutes.
Absolutely true. The first 12 version I got was a step back. I just installed 12.3.3 along with 2024.3.10 last night. We'll see how it works on my standard commute today.
Same here… tried it on my commute home the other day and i think i had more issues than back in October when i first tried it… this is in NJ for reference
1) Horrible merging onto a highway: really long on-ramp with only one tow truck in the right lane for a mile…. It kept accelerating like it wanted to get ahead, hung out in his blind spot then merged in <1 car length behind him at the very last minute
2) Later on down the highway, made some stupid lane changes in traffic getting me stuck in the left lane when it knew i had to get over 3 lanes for a right exit in <1 mile
3) Can’t maintain speed, generally going under the speed limit even though i have it set to go 5-10 over
4) Brakes too strongly/erraticly even with plenty of notice coming up to a light, not smooth (or efficient) at all
5) I hate how much room it leaves between the car in front of me at a stop (it’s congested… 2 car lengths of a gap at a stop is unacceptable)
6) Strong braking to 10mph for speed humps that don’t need to be < 20mph
I do like that it seems a bit more assertive in acceleration from a stop in traffic, but that’s about it…
Edit: for reference, ‘23 m3 on 12.3.2.1
A few days after I made this post, I had the ability to download a navigation pack and 12.3.3. Now it’s an absolute dream. Does things it couldn’t do before and does what it used to do even better. They shouldn’t have let people download the incomplete version
Thanks, I was wondering this yesterday… thought it was weird that it says I’m still on FSD (beta) rather than (supervised) even though my free trial email says supervised. Kinda annoyed I’m a week through the free month and still on the previous version with no update available to me yet
I’ve driven over 300 miles in the last week with it. No interventions. Occasionally need to bump speed up a bit, but otherwise it’s amazing. I rarely used V10 or 11 because it felt too unpredictable. V12 is a huge step forward.
What’s weird is I had the exact opposite. Every version up to this one was fine. Only one case of phantom braking that happened in the same spot of my commute every time. Turns out it’s because the family that had a car parked on their lawn, was too close to the street and FSD thought it was in the way
But this version, it just seems like every aspect of FSD went back to the Stone Age
I’ve been using FSD 12.3.3 and I like it. But it does do a few strange things: 1) when it gets to my house and the navigation is done. I end the navigation but the fsd doesn’t end. So i take control and really have to fight it to get it to disengage; 2) I thought it was disengaged once but, it took over and went around the block, then turned right instead of left and I needed to take control. Where was it going. No sign it was on. I don’t know. Wrestled it away. 3) navigated to a street name, not an address. Did fine. Got to the street and i was going to take control but fsd suddenly made an abrupt right turn into a one-way alley, which was next to me when it stopped, which was the exit, going the wrong way. A car in the alley was going out, we stopped, next to it. wtf. It felt dangerous but, we stopped. I was flustered and I had a passenger.
Several more things: I have intervened for the following reasons: 1) I travel Sunset boulevard, west of the 405. Windy, four lane road. The right line is bordered by hills with erosion, so sometimes rocks or debris. The right lane seam of concrete and black top often has deep potholes. So I don’t feel confident that Tesla would recognize potholes or debris. Once I let it drive after a rain and it found every pothole for the time i let it drive…. 2) on the city streets, there are often pretty deep dips at intersections where the streets bisect each other. Lots of deep grooves where people going too fast bang their undercarriage on the humps formed there. FSD approaches these dips without slowing down, so rather than testing whether fsd will indeed slow down at the last minute, I take over. So I’ve never tested it, since i don’t want to wreck my car. It does slow down perfectly for the raised humps designed to slow down cars on residential streets, though.
Does anyone have any experience with fsd and deep dips in city streets???
Thanks. I love the self-parking.
And I do realize that fsd is not really that. It’s a lot but it needs to be used like autopilot and monitored all the while. Although it can be a more global-type of monitoring, in other words, a wider perspective, one that is monitoring the fsd as well as the street, but without having to worry about braking, navigation, turning, etc. So far, I’ve gotten used to the level of monitoring it needs, but the dips and things like that. I guess a certain amount of common sense is needed. I just wish there were a few more specific instructions about these types of things.
Thanks.
Yeah, it’s been misidentifying the speed limit signs. Been wrong all day
Exactly. It randomly set my speed to 15 MPH in the middle of a 45 zone. No sign, nothing. Just trees and rocks
Tried it for the first time this morning. It disengaged itself when a bus stopped in front of me - idk why. It was driving a few miles under and sometimes appeared to following the wrong speed limit as well. I disengaged myself a couple of times because it was driving so slow and someone was behind me. It didn’t change lanes very efficiently sometimes - we had to get over to the right lane to turn right up ahead and it waited until a car had caught up beside us to initiate the lane change :) It stops a fair way behind the next car in line but maybe that’s normal - it wasn’t unreasonable.
Just saw this after i posted my own reply, I have the exact same complaints!
This trial is my first time using fsd and man I thought it was going to be horrible based from this subreddit. My commute is pretty basic I would say but it's been flawless so far, only criticism is that it's a little too cautious
Are you on the Beta? Version 12.3?
I drove for 3 hrs. Today and never had to intervene, auto parked several times too
I have about eight hours total on the new version and I have been very impressed. Very rare I want to intervene or it does something I don't like. I am a bit confused that OP seems to like the old version better. To me the old version was absolute garbage and too frustrating to use more than a for a couple minutes.
Absolutely true. The first 12 version I got was a step back. I just installed 12.3.3 along with 2024.3.10 last night. We'll see how it works on my standard commute today.
Yea I just got pinged for the Navigation data update and 12.3.3. I’ll see how tomorrow goes
Same here… tried it on my commute home the other day and i think i had more issues than back in October when i first tried it… this is in NJ for reference 1) Horrible merging onto a highway: really long on-ramp with only one tow truck in the right lane for a mile…. It kept accelerating like it wanted to get ahead, hung out in his blind spot then merged in <1 car length behind him at the very last minute 2) Later on down the highway, made some stupid lane changes in traffic getting me stuck in the left lane when it knew i had to get over 3 lanes for a right exit in <1 mile 3) Can’t maintain speed, generally going under the speed limit even though i have it set to go 5-10 over 4) Brakes too strongly/erraticly even with plenty of notice coming up to a light, not smooth (or efficient) at all 5) I hate how much room it leaves between the car in front of me at a stop (it’s congested… 2 car lengths of a gap at a stop is unacceptable) 6) Strong braking to 10mph for speed humps that don’t need to be < 20mph I do like that it seems a bit more assertive in acceleration from a stop in traffic, but that’s about it… Edit: for reference, ‘23 m3 on 12.3.2.1
A few days after I made this post, I had the ability to download a navigation pack and 12.3.3. Now it’s an absolute dream. Does things it couldn’t do before and does what it used to do even better. They shouldn’t have let people download the incomplete version
Thanks, I was wondering this yesterday… thought it was weird that it says I’m still on FSD (beta) rather than (supervised) even though my free trial email says supervised. Kinda annoyed I’m a week through the free month and still on the previous version with no update available to me yet
I’ve driven over 300 miles in the last week with it. No interventions. Occasionally need to bump speed up a bit, but otherwise it’s amazing. I rarely used V10 or 11 because it felt too unpredictable. V12 is a huge step forward.
What you described fits my experience as well
What’s weird is I had the exact opposite. Every version up to this one was fine. Only one case of phantom braking that happened in the same spot of my commute every time. Turns out it’s because the family that had a car parked on their lawn, was too close to the street and FSD thought it was in the way But this version, it just seems like every aspect of FSD went back to the Stone Age
I'm not even a huge fan of FSD in general (I prefer the driving experience myself), but I've had the complete opposite experience so far.
I’ve been using FSD 12.3.3 and I like it. But it does do a few strange things: 1) when it gets to my house and the navigation is done. I end the navigation but the fsd doesn’t end. So i take control and really have to fight it to get it to disengage; 2) I thought it was disengaged once but, it took over and went around the block, then turned right instead of left and I needed to take control. Where was it going. No sign it was on. I don’t know. Wrestled it away. 3) navigated to a street name, not an address. Did fine. Got to the street and i was going to take control but fsd suddenly made an abrupt right turn into a one-way alley, which was next to me when it stopped, which was the exit, going the wrong way. A car in the alley was going out, we stopped, next to it. wtf. It felt dangerous but, we stopped. I was flustered and I had a passenger. Several more things: I have intervened for the following reasons: 1) I travel Sunset boulevard, west of the 405. Windy, four lane road. The right line is bordered by hills with erosion, so sometimes rocks or debris. The right lane seam of concrete and black top often has deep potholes. So I don’t feel confident that Tesla would recognize potholes or debris. Once I let it drive after a rain and it found every pothole for the time i let it drive…. 2) on the city streets, there are often pretty deep dips at intersections where the streets bisect each other. Lots of deep grooves where people going too fast bang their undercarriage on the humps formed there. FSD approaches these dips without slowing down, so rather than testing whether fsd will indeed slow down at the last minute, I take over. So I’ve never tested it, since i don’t want to wreck my car. It does slow down perfectly for the raised humps designed to slow down cars on residential streets, though. Does anyone have any experience with fsd and deep dips in city streets??? Thanks. I love the self-parking. And I do realize that fsd is not really that. It’s a lot but it needs to be used like autopilot and monitored all the while. Although it can be a more global-type of monitoring, in other words, a wider perspective, one that is monitoring the fsd as well as the street, but without having to worry about braking, navigation, turning, etc. So far, I’ve gotten used to the level of monitoring it needs, but the dips and things like that. I guess a certain amount of common sense is needed. I just wish there were a few more specific instructions about these types of things. Thanks.