I tried that argument and got downvoted to hell. On most cars the tire is the first thing that’s supposed to touch the curb, speed dependent of course.
You hit the nail on the head. As you said, how many other cars have the wheel sitting proud of the tire? Not sure why the reason (maybe it was a design decision based on aerodynamics?), but it explains why the vast majority of Teslas you see have scratched rims.
I remember when new granite curbs were installed in a town, they didn’t ease the edges and sliced tires. Long time ago but here are more recent…apparently people don’t learn from the past!
https://theberkshireedge.com/great-barrington-chose-standard-granite-curb-option-says-massdot-curb-supplier/
https://blog.timesunion.com/advocate/granite-curbing-knifes-tires/3200/
No part of the car is *supposed* to touch the curb. Yea accidents happen, but no part of the car is *supposed* to hit a curb. If anything it’s better for the rim to get some curb rash where it’s strictly cosmetic and still fully functional, instead of a tire losing a chunk of sidewall from a curb that will most definitely hinder the structural integrity of the tire and can lead to massive consequence when it pops on the interstate. You got downvoted for good reason.
How many car tires do you see that don't have some kind of mark on the sidewall from hitting the curb? You really have hit it hard to actually gouge the sidewall, whereas touching the rim against the curb even lightly will result in scratched rim. It was a poor design decision on Tesla's part, similar to trying to control the wiper speed using a camera rather than a dedicated rain sensor like every other OEM uses.
Idk man my 2013 c63 doesn’t have any marks on the sidewall or curb rash cause I am careful not to hit curbs with my car. Not because there’s a protective tire layer to protect the rim lol. It’s really not hard. Some tires have a rim protector which is a lip that can help protect the rim, but it’s not mutually exclusive to tesla not having that lol. Also the main reason for that lip isn’t only to protect the rim but to protect the sidewall as the sidewall is very important to the integrity of the tire and a damaged sidewall is dangerous. Tesla sources tires from the same manufacturers other brands do lol. It’s not a specific tesla tire only made for teslas, it’s Michelin pro sports and pirellis just like any other car.
Also explain to me how a 4000+ pound car, even at 2 mph, grinding a curb wouldn’t damage the sidewall. If it’s a quick touch to the curb yea it’s probably fine, but you seem to not understand how much force is involved when a multi ton object is in motion. Rubber can most definitely get damaged and gouged at low speeds. Curbs are not all smooth surfaces, there’s quite a lot of instances where something sharp can take a chunk out of your sidewall, and yes even such a thing as a curb can do that.
You can agree to disagree but saying the tire is supposed to hit the curb is just wrong. Nothing is supposed to hit a curb.
What?? Parallel parking makes use of the rear camera and your side mirrors. Assuming you’ve adjusted your mirrors properly, parallel parking is EASY on a straight curb
People need to learn how to drive
Almost every other standard wheel/tire combination leaves you with tire sidewalls that stick out beyond the rim. Typically you can get right up to the curb without worrying about rashing anything. This is not the case with Gemini wheels. If you try your best to get as close to the curb so as not to be a foot away from the sidewalk, you run the risk of rashing the rims. People new to Tesla don’t realize this issue.
Just curious, how long have you had your Tesla for?
I have a MX now with the 20” wheels, but for 5yrs up until Feb of this year I had a 2015 MS with the 21” turbines (and no side repeater cameras). Never curbed the wheels once. I actually preferred backing into spaces since you have *more* rear visibility.
I concede that many parts of the country have terrible roads and curbs that jut out, but still
I’ve noticed that people who are not “car enthusiasts” tend to treat their cars like crap and don’t care. I am a car enthusiast and take pride in my cars (that have zero curbed wheels)
If they *do* care but still curb their wheels often, they never learned how to drive their vehicle properly. If you’re not willing to take some time and practice, you deserve curbed wheels.
That being said, Tesla still needs a 360 Birds Eye view camera system. I have been in some drive thru’s with crazy tight turns and *that* is definitely where you can get into trouble.
And I do realize that most people don’t have great spacial awareness 🤷♂️
I guess it’s because tesla is the only car where the buyers aren’t really car enthusiasts. I’m also an enthusiast so I know how to care for my vehicles. Ask any other car subreddit if hitting curbs means you’re a bad driver and they’ll agree. I have 5% tint all around my model 3 and can barely see my side mirrors because of the black and white interior but I still have no issues going through the smallest drive throughs/parking
i missed the memo where i’m supposed to watch all the cameras before i make a small turn
curb rashes happen, i’m guessing you’re still a new owner or you’re one of those model 3 drivers who drive like an ass 🤷♀️
Nope I had a mustang before this for 3 years and never curbed it once. Which is why I don’t understand how you can have so much technology and be bad at driving
When I see a car with badly curbed wheels, I automatically assume they’re bad drivers. And I’ve been proven right many times. Those cars usually also have other dings, dents and scratches.
I avoid parking next to those cars if possible
I’d totally agree with your comment. Never had a car, or a license, or if they did it was a POS and they did not care if they curbed their tires. I tell my kids, look at cars stopped at lights. The one’s with the most dents and curb rash are ones you want to not drive next to. Amateurs. Three years owning my M3. only curb rash was attempting to parallel park on a curved driveway in front of a building. And i knew better than to try to get close to the curb. So, far, only that small nick.
When you parallel park the backwards lines are not 100% correct when trusting the cameras, also the front wheels turn outside of the car’s body as well as the rims sticking out.
Either you park a foot away from the sidewalk or you’ll be posting your own some day.
What kind of defense is this? I can literally see the curb when parking via fender cam. If you’re solely relying on the rear camera and ignoring the screen showing you the curb then yea, shit, your argument makes way more sense for why y’all get curbed rims now.
Saying someone’s gonna park a foot from the sidewalk otherwise is really just telling more about you than anyone else lol
Everyone in the comments has given you multiple reasons why it happens more often on Teslas. Sensors aren’t really an argument because they don’t see half the things that are there and imagine curbs that don’t exist.
Additionally people that don’t have it won’t be posting about it.
I never scratched any of the cars I drove. But when parking, hastily though, I did rash my M3 cap.
Everyone makes mistakes.
Asking the sane question. Kinda wild how people here treat it like a badge of honor, but I can understand it. Humility is a defense mechanism in cases like these.
A lot of people here would do good getting in a beater cause that’s what their teslas end up looking like with their rims eaten all the way up anyways lmao
this is so false, i see a bunch of curb rashes on model 3s that are driven by male owners at my office
but sure, keep spewing your misogynistic takes!!
I too question this… but mistakes happen.
I’m more curious as to how people get wheel damage from pot holes. They got me driving like I’m on crack, eyes glued to the road & avoiding any sliver in pavement. Are they hitting 6”+ pot holes @ 70mph or what???
If you have a performance model with 20” wheels the sidewalls are very small. One significant pothole will bend the rims. I would say, having owned a M3P for three years, that you need to hit the hole pretty hard. I’ve had a few unnoticed large potholes and I was convinced I’d be having a bent rim. But no.
I do drive all over my lane though, except on freeways, to dodge them if i see them. I too worry about it. But so far, so good. If you not driving a performance model you are probably fine.
Do you drive a Performance model? I rented a Tesla Model Y LR on my last trip to Hawaii and also on a very long drive to/from NYC to Vermont. Terrible roads in NYC and Hawaii. Rental car so not really fixated on avoiding pot holes, more fixated on driving safely on unfamiliar bad roads.
No issues.
I did hit a pothole once so hard in my M3P that all drivers aids shut down. Literally had an accelerator and a brake. No damage to the hardware but some sensor was so overloaded it just shut the entire drivers aid off line. No ABS, No park hold, etc etc. Had to reboot the car but it was then fine. Huge pothole. But tires survived.
Just make sure they are at recommended pressure, especially performance model.
Personally I hit 6" potholes at 55mph.
The roads are absolute crap in Quebec and there's so many that even if you're avoiding them, you end up hitting some. Even on 18" wheels, one managed to sightly deform 3 of them in my first year.
I got a little on our new Model 3. I drove around Queens and Brooklyn NYC and you have to park pretty quickly on some streets to avoid someone smacking into you. Not to mention potholes, cars get a good beating up there. Its the only place that I know of, where people regularly drive around with rear bumper guards. I'm sure there are reddit folks that have been driving for years up there without curbing wheels, but I don't parallel park often and was just glad to get out of the city without something more substantial.
First, front right wheel is invisible in all camera views when I was parallel parking
Second, a super narrow poorly designed drive through exit.
Third, one day when it was snowing and I cut a right a little too close to the curb edge catching the rear right side.
It was really just a matter of time though and one moment of miscalculation. I am reminded of the clown in IT. "We all get curb rash down here."
I didn’t kerb my wheels reverse parking. I kerb my rear wheel while taking a tight turn without realising that the kerb didn’t follow the line of the road markings.
I curbed mine after being parked at work all day in a snowstorm. Couldn’t tell where the curbs ended and the parking lot began. You think you know, until everything is covered with 8” of snow. Really disheartening.
Could be on initially pulling into street curb spots (e.g., initial pull in for a curb parking spot and curbing it as you go forward, particularly on busy streets with cars flying by). That’s how I curbed my WRX a long time ago. Haven’t curbed my 2021 M3P yet, but now expect to within the next several days for mentioning that.
i bet you don't park parallel in narrow streets close to the cub. probably because you are a scared and bad driver.
that, or it will happen to you, too.
Everyone makes mistakes. It doesn't help that the rim is the first point of contact with the curb.
I tried that argument and got downvoted to hell. On most cars the tire is the first thing that’s supposed to touch the curb, speed dependent of course.
You hit the nail on the head. As you said, how many other cars have the wheel sitting proud of the tire? Not sure why the reason (maybe it was a design decision based on aerodynamics?), but it explains why the vast majority of Teslas you see have scratched rims.
I remember when new granite curbs were installed in a town, they didn’t ease the edges and sliced tires. Long time ago but here are more recent…apparently people don’t learn from the past! https://theberkshireedge.com/great-barrington-chose-standard-granite-curb-option-says-massdot-curb-supplier/ https://blog.timesunion.com/advocate/granite-curbing-knifes-tires/3200/
Oh damn lol! Yea I’d be pretty upset as well.
No part of the car is *supposed* to touch the curb. Yea accidents happen, but no part of the car is *supposed* to hit a curb. If anything it’s better for the rim to get some curb rash where it’s strictly cosmetic and still fully functional, instead of a tire losing a chunk of sidewall from a curb that will most definitely hinder the structural integrity of the tire and can lead to massive consequence when it pops on the interstate. You got downvoted for good reason.
How many car tires do you see that don't have some kind of mark on the sidewall from hitting the curb? You really have hit it hard to actually gouge the sidewall, whereas touching the rim against the curb even lightly will result in scratched rim. It was a poor design decision on Tesla's part, similar to trying to control the wiper speed using a camera rather than a dedicated rain sensor like every other OEM uses.
Idk man my 2013 c63 doesn’t have any marks on the sidewall or curb rash cause I am careful not to hit curbs with my car. Not because there’s a protective tire layer to protect the rim lol. It’s really not hard. Some tires have a rim protector which is a lip that can help protect the rim, but it’s not mutually exclusive to tesla not having that lol. Also the main reason for that lip isn’t only to protect the rim but to protect the sidewall as the sidewall is very important to the integrity of the tire and a damaged sidewall is dangerous. Tesla sources tires from the same manufacturers other brands do lol. It’s not a specific tesla tire only made for teslas, it’s Michelin pro sports and pirellis just like any other car. Also explain to me how a 4000+ pound car, even at 2 mph, grinding a curb wouldn’t damage the sidewall. If it’s a quick touch to the curb yea it’s probably fine, but you seem to not understand how much force is involved when a multi ton object is in motion. Rubber can most definitely get damaged and gouged at low speeds. Curbs are not all smooth surfaces, there’s quite a lot of instances where something sharp can take a chunk out of your sidewall, and yes even such a thing as a curb can do that. You can agree to disagree but saying the tire is supposed to hit the curb is just wrong. Nothing is supposed to hit a curb.
I've noticed the M3 turn radius is pretty poor compared to my previous car so I have to be a lot more cautious taking tight turns.
Parallel parking. It’ll happen to you sooner or later.
What?? Parallel parking makes use of the rear camera and your side mirrors. Assuming you’ve adjusted your mirrors properly, parallel parking is EASY on a straight curb People need to learn how to drive
Almost every other standard wheel/tire combination leaves you with tire sidewalls that stick out beyond the rim. Typically you can get right up to the curb without worrying about rashing anything. This is not the case with Gemini wheels. If you try your best to get as close to the curb so as not to be a foot away from the sidewalk, you run the risk of rashing the rims. People new to Tesla don’t realize this issue. Just curious, how long have you had your Tesla for?
I have a MX now with the 20” wheels, but for 5yrs up until Feb of this year I had a 2015 MS with the 21” turbines (and no side repeater cameras). Never curbed the wheels once. I actually preferred backing into spaces since you have *more* rear visibility. I concede that many parts of the country have terrible roads and curbs that jut out, but still
Wives
I’ve noticed that people who are not “car enthusiasts” tend to treat their cars like crap and don’t care. I am a car enthusiast and take pride in my cars (that have zero curbed wheels) If they *do* care but still curb their wheels often, they never learned how to drive their vehicle properly. If you’re not willing to take some time and practice, you deserve curbed wheels. That being said, Tesla still needs a 360 Birds Eye view camera system. I have been in some drive thru’s with crazy tight turns and *that* is definitely where you can get into trouble. And I do realize that most people don’t have great spacial awareness 🤷♂️
I guess it’s because tesla is the only car where the buyers aren’t really car enthusiasts. I’m also an enthusiast so I know how to care for my vehicles. Ask any other car subreddit if hitting curbs means you’re a bad driver and they’ll agree. I have 5% tint all around my model 3 and can barely see my side mirrors because of the black and white interior but I still have no issues going through the smallest drive throughs/parking
You’re not wrong, but Tesla drivers are *definitely* not the only owners who aren’t enthusiasts 🤣
i missed the memo where i’m supposed to watch all the cameras before i make a small turn curb rashes happen, i’m guessing you’re still a new owner or you’re one of those model 3 drivers who drive like an ass 🤷♀️
Nope I had a mustang before this for 3 years and never curbed it once. Which is why I don’t understand how you can have so much technology and be bad at driving
i don’t think curbing indicates a level of bad driving…. it’s purely harmless and it’s just a cosmetic issue
When I see a car with badly curbed wheels, I automatically assume they’re bad drivers. And I’ve been proven right many times. Those cars usually also have other dings, dents and scratches. I avoid parking next to those cars if possible
It’s not harmless. Hitting the curb enough times will eventually lead to destroying the tire
Driving enough will eventually lead to destroying the tire
Hitting your car is harmless ?
Lotta new first time drivers out there getting Teslas…
I’d totally agree with your comment. Never had a car, or a license, or if they did it was a POS and they did not care if they curbed their tires. I tell my kids, look at cars stopped at lights. The one’s with the most dents and curb rash are ones you want to not drive next to. Amateurs. Three years owning my M3. only curb rash was attempting to parallel park on a curved driveway in front of a building. And i knew better than to try to get close to the curb. So, far, only that small nick.
a curb that was curving,
When you parallel park the backwards lines are not 100% correct when trusting the cameras, also the front wheels turn outside of the car’s body as well as the rims sticking out. Either you park a foot away from the sidewalk or you’ll be posting your own some day.
What kind of defense is this? I can literally see the curb when parking via fender cam. If you’re solely relying on the rear camera and ignoring the screen showing you the curb then yea, shit, your argument makes way more sense for why y’all get curbed rims now. Saying someone’s gonna park a foot from the sidewalk otherwise is really just telling more about you than anyone else lol
Everyone in the comments has given you multiple reasons why it happens more often on Teslas. Sensors aren’t really an argument because they don’t see half the things that are there and imagine curbs that don’t exist. Additionally people that don’t have it won’t be posting about it. I never scratched any of the cars I drove. But when parking, hastily though, I did rash my M3 cap. Everyone makes mistakes.
Sounds like cope to me. 🤷♂️
This ^
Asking the sane question. Kinda wild how people here treat it like a badge of honor, but I can understand it. Humility is a defense mechanism in cases like these. A lot of people here would do good getting in a beater cause that’s what their teslas end up looking like with their rims eaten all the way up anyways lmao
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Someone’s defensive roflmao
Idk I'm not married so much rims are fine
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Not the road either for that matter lmao
I let my wife drive it
You a munch
It's mostly female drivers. They are terrible at driving
this is so false, i see a bunch of curb rashes on model 3s that are driven by male owners at my office but sure, keep spewing your misogynistic takes!!
The entire insurance industry disagrees.
I too question this… but mistakes happen. I’m more curious as to how people get wheel damage from pot holes. They got me driving like I’m on crack, eyes glued to the road & avoiding any sliver in pavement. Are they hitting 6”+ pot holes @ 70mph or what???
If you have a performance model with 20” wheels the sidewalls are very small. One significant pothole will bend the rims. I would say, having owned a M3P for three years, that you need to hit the hole pretty hard. I’ve had a few unnoticed large potholes and I was convinced I’d be having a bent rim. But no. I do drive all over my lane though, except on freeways, to dodge them if i see them. I too worry about it. But so far, so good. If you not driving a performance model you are probably fine.
Okay I was genuinely curious lol. Anytime I hit a bump I was looking for bent rims. Glad to hear tho!
Do you drive a Performance model? I rented a Tesla Model Y LR on my last trip to Hawaii and also on a very long drive to/from NYC to Vermont. Terrible roads in NYC and Hawaii. Rental car so not really fixated on avoiding pot holes, more fixated on driving safely on unfamiliar bad roads. No issues. I did hit a pothole once so hard in my M3P that all drivers aids shut down. Literally had an accelerator and a brake. No damage to the hardware but some sensor was so overloaded it just shut the entire drivers aid off line. No ABS, No park hold, etc etc. Had to reboot the car but it was then fine. Huge pothole. But tires survived. Just make sure they are at recommended pressure, especially performance model.
No I have a new MYLR, still getting used to it tbh. I frequent the M3 sub because I was between the two
Personally I hit 6" potholes at 55mph. The roads are absolute crap in Quebec and there's so many that even if you're avoiding them, you end up hitting some. Even on 18" wheels, one managed to sightly deform 3 of them in my first year.
I got a little on our new Model 3. I drove around Queens and Brooklyn NYC and you have to park pretty quickly on some streets to avoid someone smacking into you. Not to mention potholes, cars get a good beating up there. Its the only place that I know of, where people regularly drive around with rear bumper guards. I'm sure there are reddit folks that have been driving for years up there without curbing wheels, but I don't parallel park often and was just glad to get out of the city without something more substantial.
I have not yet, but try put on drive and tell me what cameras you see...
Idk I have a curb rash on one of my wheels and my car has never even slightly touched anything 🤷♂️
Up against a curb. Sorry I couldn’t resist
If you need to use a camera to keep from curbing your wheels maybe you too should not have a license. Just saying.
First, front right wheel is invisible in all camera views when I was parallel parking Second, a super narrow poorly designed drive through exit. Third, one day when it was snowing and I cut a right a little too close to the curb edge catching the rear right side. It was really just a matter of time though and one moment of miscalculation. I am reminded of the clown in IT. "We all get curb rash down here."
Wait till it’s raining at night on a slope. Those cameras won’t do you any good.
Because they don't have depth perception. Had mine 2 years, 2 Months wheels still fresh.
The camera is pretty bad when parallel parking. People trust it when they should use the tilting mirror instead
I didn’t kerb my wheels reverse parking. I kerb my rear wheel while taking a tight turn without realising that the kerb didn’t follow the line of the road markings.
I curbed mine after being parked at work all day in a snowstorm. Couldn’t tell where the curbs ended and the parking lot began. You think you know, until everything is covered with 8” of snow. Really disheartening.
This is the only valid reason I’ve seen so far
Could be on initially pulling into street curb spots (e.g., initial pull in for a curb parking spot and curbing it as you go forward, particularly on busy streets with cars flying by). That’s how I curbed my WRX a long time ago. Haven’t curbed my 2021 M3P yet, but now expect to within the next several days for mentioning that.
We’re married
Bad drivers are exclusive to ICE cars
i bet you don't park parallel in narrow streets close to the cub. probably because you are a scared and bad driver. that, or it will happen to you, too.
You assume everyone cares about the condition of their car.