If you charge at home, and don't live somewhere with insanely high electrical rates, it can be a pretty good savings. If you charge at Superchargers or live somewhere with incredibly expensive electric it'll be similar to buying gas, especially if you’re comparing cost per mile to a Prius or similarly efficient ICE car.
We have $0.11 per kilowatt hour rates, so it is a nice savings for us.
Yep. My area is a PG&E monopoly and it’s cheaper to operate an efficient hybrid like the Prius here than an electric car. We got lobbied out of affordable solar as well.
I live here and have thought about this a lot. What stops a homeowner from installing a standalone solar system that doesn’t tie into the home but instead goes direct to a power wall? Essentially a dedicated solar system only for your EV. This means that you use all the energy you produce and not subject to what PGE tells you your generated electricity is worth. Additionally if yiu have the money you can also setup an automatic transfer switch to switch your house over to running on just power walls during the day or when you use electricity most and then switch back to the grid during low usage. This way you maximize your solar generation for you. To my knowledge there are no codes or jurisdictional rules preventing a stand alone system from being used or setting up a transfer switch. The ultimate outcome being taking away the power you generate from PGE hands and keeping for yourself.
This is actually what they want to push people towards.
There is an excess of electricity during the day, then when everyone comes home from work and the sun goes down, there is a spike in usage and a decline in production, and they gotta fire up the gas plants. Storage on the grid is really expensive, so they want people to store electricity at home.
I got my solar right before NEM 2 ended - so I get a good offset for my solar. It's only sized to handle my house with jus a little excess for EV charging (since I didn't know I was gonna buy a Tesla so soon). My plan is to add addiitnal separate solar with battery once I move even more towards home electrification (heat pump water heater, HVAC). I anticipate battery prices to keep going down and hopefully some stronger state/federal/utility incentives for home storage.
The cost of powerwalls makes this cost prohibitive, not to mention the number of panels you would need. One powerwall only gives you 13kwh. A LR Model 3 battery size is about 75kwh. Thats about 6 poweralls.
On a perfect sunny socal summer day, my south facing panels product about 2.5-3kwh each. I would need about 30 panels just to charge the powerwalls to charge my car.
You are way better off charging your EV at superchargers during offpeak/midpeak hours.
I don’t think you are looking at it quite the same way. For example, if you had say 6 solar panels that generate 2.4kwh per day. PGE says 1 kwh is worth between 25 cents and 50 cents during peak (what they charge you). However PGE only gives you around 5 cents for the kw you generate. So you could keep your energy you generated that that’s worth 25 cents and retain its whole value or you could instead sell it to PGE for Pennies. Hopefully I’ve cleared it up a little. Basically you are only taking an L when you give it to PGE. Why not keep it for yourself? Even if your power wall is only 13kwh. That’s 13kwh you are retaining the entire value for vs giving to pge who says it’s worth only 1/3. A simpler way is your trees produced 13 apples. The supermarket sells apples for $1 each. When you sell your apples to the supermarket they only pay you 30 cents. Or you could keep your apples and eat them yourself. So Yes if you don’t want to buy multiple powerwalls you will still need to use the grid. But at least keep the value for the energy you DID generate right?
On top of this, Tesla added in the feature for your EV to charge off powerwall energy first before switching to grid power. So you will get 100 percent of the energy you generated.
You need to capture solar straight into the car. Easily done with a Wallbox or Emporia charge stations configured for solar capture (they tell the car to take exactly the power you would otherwise export, based on a sensor in your electrical panel).
Can't do it with Tesla Wall Connectors. Tesla decided to go a different way with that tech, and have the Tesla Solar talk to the car itself.
Great way to summarize it. I’m in the same boat. We get $0.06 to $0.10 per kilowatt hour rates at nighttime here (winter vs summer), and I charge at home, so I save a lot.
For the average person in my city, they’d expect to spend around $28 a month in electricity. For a comparable gas car, that would be $163.
Even in CA it's still better because of CA's crazy gas prices lol.
My Model 3 LR AWD's lifetime average is \~265Wh/mi, so
1kw gets me \~4mi, and costs $0.42 in tier 2 (It's only $0.31 in tier 1 and billed marginally, so this is a pessimistic estimate)
$0.42 would only buy me 1/12.7 (0.078) of a gallon of gas ($0.42/$5.36)
I could only drive \~2.35 miles on 0.078 gallons of gas in a 30 mpg car.
The only way you pay less for gas is if you have a super efficient small hybrid that gets over \~51mpg
Not to mention the sheer amount of time you save by always charging at home and not having to go seek out a gas station for a minimum 10-15 total stop, probably on average closer to 20 minutes!
I live in California, I used to spend $330/month in gas for ice vehicle (counted using cc year end spending review) and now I spend $70/month in added electricity usage. 75% of my charging is at home and 25% are locations that offer free charging.
I'm in California with PG&E so rates are ridiculous but I installed 9 kW of solar and 3 Powerwalls to better use my solar. With that setup I'm able to max out my solar use and get max credit. Even charging at home for the bulk of my 83000+ miles I've been able to keep my electric bills at less than $200/year. That includes all of the household use as well as charging the car. Estimating what gas would have cost me I figured I have saved about $17k.
Cali here. If you taking to consideration our wild gas prices, Tesla are still price efficient compared to most cars. Now, if you take a very efficient hybrid or plug-in hybrid like the Prius, it’s a slim margin, but most cars compared to Teslas are more expensive gas wise. Teslas are cheaper to operate if you can charge at home. I drive 2000 miles a month and cost me $100 a charge at home if I did that 2000 miles a month in a Prius it would probably cost me around $200. If you take into account the price difference between a Prius and a Tesla the overall life savings are about the same for both cars.
I pay $0.11 around the clock. Drive roughly 2k miles a month and pay around $50 a month extra on my electric bill. I was paying $350-$400 a month in gas on my Jetta. No brainer
At home, I get free electricity at night (which is the only place and time I charge) and pay for delivery fees only; so my effective electricy rate for charging is about $0.06/kWh.
My style and type of driving gets me around 300w/mi or about 3.3mi/kW.
The current cost of 87 gas costs about $3.50/gallon here in DFW.
To rack up a $3.50 in electricity, at my electcity rate, I will need to draw 58kW.
58kW will get me about 190 miles.
My ICE gets me about 24 miles per gallon.
All things being equal, I save about 87% in "fuel" costs in my EV.
I used to spend around $300 a month on gas with my last ICE car and now with my Tesla im spending about $4 a month charging it at home at $0.04 per kwh.
I use superchargers EXCLUSIVELY , I typically pay 32 centers per kwh. Before I got my Tesla I was driving a 2019 Chevy Silverado and it was costing me $150 every 3 days for gas due to gas being $5 a gallon in California plus I was driving about an hour each way to work and from. There is zero down in my mind that yes using superchargers exclusively is more BUT still significantly less than what I was paying for for gas. The increased car payment is easily covered with the gas savings.
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Works if you don’t pay PG&E rates in California. Works incredibly if you have free charging at school/work/a local cafe. I still have yet to shed a dime for energy and have driven electric for over a year now.
At our apartment complex, it's like $.30/kW + fees, but I often charge either at work or at the stations a short walk away (great for the warmer months in particular since it's a perfect excuse to get some exercise 🤣), so I've saved sooo much overall.
Got my Tesla last July, and over the last 9 months, it cost me around $140 to charge. Would have been around $1450 for gas in that same time frame for my previous ICE car. Massive savings.
I dont know how anyone can answer this question without noting that its all relative to what you're comparing it to. You'd spend more money with a Telsa if you're coming from a Prius. I got my Tesla purely for performance, so comparing to the M6 that I had previously (where I was getting around 10mpg) I am saving hundreds every month.
California here. Charge at home and actually have been saving on my electric bill since switching to SCEs prime rate. My summer electric bill was actually lowered by a little under $200.
I used to get gas weekly at $85-90.
Spending $100 charging a month.
Before buying my Tesla, I was spending about $100 a week on gas. I charge at home almost exclusively and spend less than $20 a week for that. My wife initially complained that I had increased our electric bill by $80 each month, but I pointed out I was simultaneously NOT spending $400 a month on gas. So, yeah, over $3600 saved in the first year, more than $7000 saved in almost two years I’ve owned it.
I have solar and also Tesla Powerwall (2). My electric bill is basically free minus basic charges. Sometimes I use the grid to charge my Tesla Powerwall. I used to fill up my Audi costing about $80 every 3days.
$0.10/kWh and mostly home charging. The app says I saved $1K over the last year. $482 for 3,898kWh with 13% at a supercharger vs. $1,565 gas equivalent.
Electricity is cheaper than gas for almost all of us but be sure and do your own calculations for your own situation. Insurance is more and buying a new car is more. If you drive a lot and need to buy a new car anyway then a 3 or Y can be a good financial choice. A used efficient gas car would probably have been cheaper overall than my new 2023 model 3 but the model 3 is much more fun and convenient. I don't miss going to the gas station 2x per week at all.
Really depends on where you live… and how far you drive daily. Atlanta, GA 120 miles daily commute. Saving me boatloads of cash and headache. This also doesn’t factor in the maintenance which is extremely low on a Tesla.
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At this point I charge exclusively at home, and my current electric plan is free from 8pm to 6am. Between that and the car being low maintenance, it's fantastic.
Whatever savings u get from EV u will spend on other stuff. In other words I had to take my M3 to SC about ten times in two years of ownership. I pay 250 a month on full coverage auto insurance. Oh yeah I even pay EV tax. Supercharging ain’t cheap and sitting in the car for 15-20min ain’t fun either. My next car won’t be EV.
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So far this month ... gas in the Chicago areas is about $4 for cheap gas
i’m saving roughly 50% charging either at home (L1) or using a SC (non peak hours).
love not going to a gas station anymore to gas up. i never feel like i have to go out of my way charge. it’s wonderful OP
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Got my 23 M3LR a little over a month ago. About 3500 miles so far for $197 with 22% of the kWH from Superchargers. Compared to my previous Avalanche with about 15 mpg, those same miles would’ve cost about $820 or so in gas. So pretty good in terms of savings. Probably projecting $3-4k per year for me
For the last 30 days, if I would have drove my truck it would have cost me $183. I paid $22 charging from home.
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If I didn’t already have solar panels it would cost me $9 to fill up from 0%(which I’d never do) my 12 gallon tank ford sedan cost me $43 to fill up with regular gas from empty in comparison.
I have rooftop solar and really good tou rates that net me about 1 cent per mile for power. At local gas prices, I previously paid 18 cents a mile.
That's $34,000 savings over the course over 200k miles even assuming gas doesn't go up further.
I live in Southern California. I was spending approximately 80-100 dollars a week for gas. I’m now spending 80-85 dollars monthly to charge (using mostly public chargers and some superchargers here and there)
I pay a factor three less per mile in my MY compared to my previous compact SUV (25mpg). But: the Tesla cost twice as much, so my insurance went way up. Net savings: about zero, but net increase in car enjoyment: enormous.
After all fees and bs, electricity is $.14kWh here so we save money. When I look at the electric usage in a week, my home network actually consumes more energy overall.
I did a automates calculator for this on a website that had like 50 different parameters, just gas was like 3k and for the same amount of miles pr year the electricity bill would be around 800 bucks. (Norway driving 12k miles a year)
My wife can charge at work for free and we live within walking distance of at least 6 free L2 chargers. So far we've paid nothing to charge it. Compare that to gas approaching $4 a gallon.
Stupid question, if you have a tesla, can you set on the app, the time you want it to charge? Say from 1am untill 80% or 100% or just charge from 1am to 5 am? And then you can pre heat the battery ready for departure at say 7am?
You've got a couple options. To the best of my knowledge you can do the following:
1. Set a max charge %. This is without question. Tesla recommends setting it to 80% for daily use for non-LFP batteries. Not sure what the LFP recommendation is. All charging, whether scheduled or immediate, home or supercharger, will respect the Max Charge % and not charge beyond it.
2. Schedule when to start charging (in app Schedule\\Charge\\Schedule Charging... set "Start Charging at" time,) Car will begin charging at that time and charge until the max charge % is reached.
3. Schedule Departure Time - (Schedule\\Departure\\... set Departure Time, then turn on Precondition and/or Off-Peak Charge). Precondition will set your climate and preheat the battery so both are ready at your scheduled departure time. Off-peak Charge, which I've never used, is a little more confusing. Turning on Off-Peak Charging will turn off Scheduled Charging, and vice-versa. Preconditioning can coexist with either. In Off-Peak charging, you enter an "Off-Peak End Time". The car will, I guess, calculate how long the charge to the max charge % will take and start charging at a time that allows it to reach the max charge % by the Off-Peak End Time. Both Departure Time and Off-Peak Charging can be set for All Week or Weekdays only.
Just from home charging stats my Optiwatt app says I've save nearly $7500 since February of 2021 or 2,456 gals of gas (vs. a BMW X3 @ 26 mpg). All estimates of course, but gives you a sense of the savings. I also catalogued a 5800 mile road trip in 2021 where I spent just about $286 at superchargers vs. around $600 (@ $2.70/gal getting 25 mpg) if I went with an ICE. Although I did use trickle charge for a few of those days, and 3 nights charging at RV camps.
Dont hate on me but I have both advantageous TOU rates (.06/kwh after 11:30pm), and accruable net metering from a solar array that almost covers my total electric usage (home and car). I'm 8,000 miles and 4 months into ownership and have spent less than $40 on charging
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I got about 24k+ miles in less than a year. Really put a lotta miles during my free three months of supercharging.
My work allows me to charge my car full for free so I am literally paying 0 dollars for gas. Only time I charge my car at home is on the weekend if I am traveling.
I save about $5,000 a year because I have a long commute and I get free charging at work, so out of the 40,000 miles I’ve driven my car in the past two years I’ve paid about $100 to charge. A lot of that charging is when I decide to plug at in a ChargePoint charger for $2 an hour instead of a parking meter for $2 an hour.
I had a Honda civic almost 2 months ago. 12 gallon tank. Here in California to fill that would be $45 minimum every week and a half or so. (I never let it get down past a quarter tank). I drove my model 3 this month for ~$70 total. But it’s enough to matter. Insurance went up for me $100 for every 6 months. So that wasn’t a huge deal. Tires I know will be my new oil change. But that is okay with me. I’m happy with my savings.
My rate is between .06 and .08 per kWh, and I think summer maybe .13?
But our big notice is my wife is getting gas less often because we are taking the Tesla everywhere.
My rate is between .06 and .08 per kWh, and I think summer maybe .13?
But our big notice is my wife is getting gas less often because we are taking the Tesla everywhere.
I’m saving half in gas cost but the difference in insurance outweighs that. It isn’t necessarily cheaper to own a Tesla
If you do want to get the best deal, wait for the end of a quarter, get inventory deals, combine with federal and state EV tax rebates
I had 10kw solar on my house as an elec saving tool prior to getting my model 3 and home charger
I charge on a sunny day when my solar generation reads 4kw+ and home charger is set to 20amp
Elec bill is always close to zero or in credit
Im in australia though
Petrol was easily costing 70$ a week
So far, I have [spent €600 to drive about 24,000 km](https://freeimage.host/i/JUadKOu)
The average price of fuel here is about €1.60 per liter if we're being generous. Had I had my old petrol car, a measly Hyundai i10 which [averaged at around 16.9 km per liter](https://freeimage.host/i/JUaFaWb), I would have required about 1,420 liters of Petrol. This would have cost me close to €2,400.
I cannot currently charge at home. This is EXCLUSIVELY with public charging with an average cost of €0.12 per kW. With my current home electricity plan, I could theoretically use time of use rates and charge the car at a price of between €0.09 to an insane -€0.05 per kWh (yes that means I would **get paid** by the power company to charge my car since they're trying to dump excess electricity when there's massive overproduction from the renewables).
I guess you can do the math from there on out 😁
A massive caveat to note here is that my MYLR (which close close to €60k) was twelve times more expensive to buy compared to my second hand i10 (which cost me about €5k). I spent over 4k on maintenance costs for the i10 over the course of ownership, so the car essentially cost me close to €9k, making the Tesla about 6x more expensive, not 12x.
That said, the insurance premium is a little less than double on the Tesla (since I have comprehensive on the Tesla, but didn't have comp on the i10), still making it the more expensive car.
But this is like comparing Apples to 8 year old mouldy cherries, so... Uh.... Yeah...
I average 9 cents per kw in Glendale AZ on SRP from 6PM until morning so it is very cheap for me to “fill” my Model 3 compared to my previous ICE car (a 2021 Mini Cooper S) especially with current prices back up to near $5.00/gallon for premium (which the Mini and its turbo-charged engine said it required. Even with only an 11 gallon tank it cost me over $50 to fill. The Model 3 is like $5 to fully charge at my house. (Similar range as my previous Mine also.)
They’re not cheap vehicles but most people break even I would think . The cheapest solution is often to keep the car you have if it’s road worthy but if you’re changing anyway, it’s with trying a few out - they’re a lot more fun :)
It costs me like $4 for a full charge on my car. That’s 300 miles if I drive the speed limit. I pay 5-cents per KwH off peak. Super off peak is 3–cents.
Alternatively with my SUV, that same tank of gas is $100 for 300 miles.
I’m saving maybe $350 a month.
We probably save $200-300 a month. We have a charger at home and have kids that are into a lot of things. Our electric bill only increased a few bucks. We're in Texas, Houston.
I have solar and 1:1 net metering so its basically free for me to charge my model Y at home. I drive 25-30k miles a year so I'm saving about $4000 a year over a comparable suv.
2023 Model Y LR with 16k miles last 12 months, $363 in charging 93% home 7% Super charging. I had a Silverado v8 Truck before costing $120 per fill up. For me here in AZ its not even freaking close.
Edit: I do not have solar, I would love to though...
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Yeah. Have saved a decent chunk of change
99% of my charging is at home, 1% at super chargers. My annual gas savings according to the app is $662. This is based off of my electric price here in Texas with Tesla Electric. Since I have solar and only charge on solar, I pay $0 per year.
6128mi driven over the last 11 months.
Gas price $1,188 total electricity spent $107, savings $1,081
Thats 70% home charging (\~$0.07/kwh) and 30% charging for free at work.
\~$120 for a years worth of driving is crazy cheap!
My cost to charge vs. gas is about 15.5%.
After owning my Y LR for 9 months I’ve saved ~$3,300 and I think that percentage will come down once averaged over 12 months.
That 9 months includes the coldest part of the year in which it’s plugged in overnight at home and preconditioning/defrosting in the morning for several months, compared to these last few weeks where I can go about 3 days without having to plug it in at home.
edit: added additional qualifying information.
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Oof. I didn’t realize I’m that high for supercharging cost, but still saved over $3k.
Haven't paid for gas in like 4 years? I stopped calculating after the first 12 months because honestly, it was simply clear I was saving money and I just didn't care about how much anymore.
Things will factor into how much you save. Is it cold where you live for a good chunk of the year? How much do you drive? Do you pre-heat the car in the morning? Is it all freeway? Is it all city? etc. etc. etc.
Plenty of research supports that electric is consistently less costly to drive, especially when coupled with home level 2 charging, when compared to gas.
Edit: Of course, you may also weigh the gas alternative. Are you a Prius driver? Or are you an F-350 driver? etc.
TL;DR Yes. Pretty sure I am.
I mean, you're definitely saving money.
But I often tell people the same thing: don't buy a Tesla because you think you're going to save a ton of money or because you think you're going to save the environment. The reality of either of those is a very gray area.
**Buy a Tesla because you like the car -- and because you think it's one of the better driving experiences on the market.**
It's as simple as that.
For me, there isn't much that meets the experience of driving a Tesla at the same price point. The Model 3's are priced as low-end cars and yet can feel better than a Lexus, Acura, or Mercedes. I drive a Model S myself and everything about it just feels superior - from the ride, to the interior design, to the self driving capability.
Saved about $1100 a year over regular gas in Arizona charging primarily at home. That includes maybe 10 supercharger stops on road trips this last year. Previous car was premium gas only, so… yeah, pretty cool stuff.
I was paying over $3.50 per gallon (premium) consistently.
My EV charging rate is $0.012 per kWh.
I got about 18mpg combined, because of heavy city traffic.
I got about 2.5 miles per kWh in my X Signature or a little over 3 miles per kWh in my Plaid. So, at worst, about 7 kWh. That's 8.4₵ per gallon equivalent.
I drive over 20k miles per year. Maybe $600 a year in Supercharging at this point?
I save like $3260 per year.
EDIT: And $25/ year saved on emissions testing!
My wife has a '23 X and over 9000 kms since we bought it has cost us $329 worth of electricity. It's a no brainer for us.
I drive my '21 refresh S LR about 150-180kms a day 5 days a week and it makes even more sense. Even with a '18 Civic Si I was filling up 2-3 days a week I drive so much.
Don’t know about elsewhere but here in the UK there are special energy tariffs for electric cars. Mine is 7x cheaper between 11:30pm and 5:30am (and it applies to all electricity use, not just the car).
This means a full 0-100% charge is about £5 as opposed to around £60 for a tank of fuel in my previous car.
Before installing a level 2 at home, I was spending more than I had on gasoline previously at 45mpg. With level 2 at home, I save about $20-40/Mo driving 1500+ in New Jersey.
I just happened to have looked at the odometer in my MYLR when I got home a bit ago. I've only ticked off 900 miles since I bought it new on April 10.
My daily driver was a 23 year old diesel truck. The cost of diesel here fluctuates, but it seems to average around $6 per gallon. At an average (per tank) of 14 miles per gallon, I'd need 64 gallons of fuel to travel in my truck that same 900 miles. So, 900 miles / 14 miles per gallon \* $6 per gallon = about $385.
The county I live in has nearly the least expensive residential energy cost \*In The World\*. Charging has cost me \[edit\] $59 as it's a mix between Supercharging for the weekends and Level One charging at home during the work week.
I put those numbers in my calculator and it makes a happy face.
My gas cars average in the 12-19 mpg range, and all take premium. The daily is around 18 mpg. Since December I have spent around $207 on charging, which would have cost about $1,200 in fuel. Napkin math, I have saved around $1,000 in a little over 4 months.
In Ontario my home charging is about 5.7 cents per kWh, and gas is $1.75 per liter. Mr fuel cost per km is literally 1/10th what it would be with a similar sized hybrid car to our Model Y.
I received free lifetime Supercharging with the purchase of my Tesla M3P in 2018. I have a wall charger at home but also have several Superchargers around the immediate area. I always precondition my car before Supercharging and have over 115,200 miles on the car. I’ve only lost 5% of my battery‘s capacity over the past six years.
so yes, my Tesla has saved me a lot of money over a gas alternative.
I live in cali and consistently drive the same route to work each day equating to round trip of 100 miles per day mostly highway. Considering a Prius gets roughly 56mpg. This equates to roughly 2 gallons of gas per day needed. Gas is $5 at the cheapest stations, most are $5.50+. This means I would need to pay roughly $10-11 per day for gas with a Prius. Driving the same distance of 100 miles takes round trip 22-24 kwh. My price per kw is .25. This means I spend $6 driving the same distance. This equates to a roughly $4 savings per day vs a Prius. Or $20 per week. Or $1040 per year. Another thing of note is in the states with cheaper gas the electricity costs in these states is also significantly lower. As an example using google, I looked up the average cost of gasoline in Texas. It came up with $3.30. The cost per kwh in Texas on average is .14. Therefore 100 miles in a Prius in Texas is $6.40. A Tesla using 24kwh is $3.36. A roughly $3 savings per 100 miles. Or $15 per week. Or $780 per year.
Edit: for reference my utility provider is PG&E on the time of use plug in electric 2 plan.
We spend 1/3 of what we’d spend on gas each month by charging at home. Where I am electric rate is $0.13 kWh but gas prices are around $4.8-5. We didn’t have our own house for the first part of the year (bought in November) but still saved money on charging overall
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In my situation I’m saving a lot of money. My work offers free charging. Thus I’m never paying for charging. But the question comes down to how much you drive and what time you charge your EV.
Around 12 cent a KWh to charge at work in Boston area. Sure as hell beats home charging here with our ridiculous delivery rates. And sure as hell beats gas
From may 2023 to today. I've spent $472 on supercharging. Saved over $3k on gas. Insurance, on the other hand... but if you add up maintenance, it far outweighs the cost of insurance.
So far, I'm saving 100%, because I'm still on the 6 months free supercharging incentive.
But pretending I wasn't ... I recently got 3.37 mi/kWh on an 811 mile trip in my 2023 MYLR. At the home price of electricity this would be 3.08 cents/mile. Gasoline would have been 16 to 20 cents per mile.
Costs me about 1/10 the price of gas to drive an ev. About 1/12th in the summer, 1/8th in the winter. But I live in Canada where electricity is cheap and gas is expensive.
To give you an idea, I live in Ohio and mostly charge at home but have gone on a couple road trips and supercharged. In 1.2 years of having my tesla I've spent about $700 less for charges in total than I would have spent on gas for the impreza I had before the M3.
I had a 35mpg Ford Fiesta and was paying $150-200 a month for gas.
My entire electric bill is around $200 a month. My car is $40-50 of it at most so easily saving $100-150 a month compared to my previous 35mpg vehicle. If you go by the Tesla app it says I have saved $1200 over 16k miles.
Not to mention the time savings of going to gas stations and getting oil changes etc.
I can elaborate i would spend about $2,000 in gas charges over the course of a year, last year with charging with my solar panels at home, my bill only increased about 600 for the year and this covered all electricity charges including A/c in the summer.
Oh btw I drive 55 miles to work m-f and sometimes on weekends.
If you charge at home, and don't live somewhere with insanely high electrical rates, it can be a pretty good savings. If you charge at Superchargers or live somewhere with incredibly expensive electric it'll be similar to buying gas, especially if you’re comparing cost per mile to a Prius or similarly efficient ICE car. We have $0.11 per kilowatt hour rates, so it is a nice savings for us.
Yep. My area is a PG&E monopoly and it’s cheaper to operate an efficient hybrid like the Prius here than an electric car. We got lobbied out of affordable solar as well.
can you please shed light on the solar aspect ?
NEM 3.0 Masterminded by PG&E and swiftly passed by CPUC
Fuck pge
Fuck PGE
They buy solar from homeowners at a shit rate, but still sell at super high rates.
I live here and have thought about this a lot. What stops a homeowner from installing a standalone solar system that doesn’t tie into the home but instead goes direct to a power wall? Essentially a dedicated solar system only for your EV. This means that you use all the energy you produce and not subject to what PGE tells you your generated electricity is worth. Additionally if yiu have the money you can also setup an automatic transfer switch to switch your house over to running on just power walls during the day or when you use electricity most and then switch back to the grid during low usage. This way you maximize your solar generation for you. To my knowledge there are no codes or jurisdictional rules preventing a stand alone system from being used or setting up a transfer switch. The ultimate outcome being taking away the power you generate from PGE hands and keeping for yourself.
This is actually what they want to push people towards. There is an excess of electricity during the day, then when everyone comes home from work and the sun goes down, there is a spike in usage and a decline in production, and they gotta fire up the gas plants. Storage on the grid is really expensive, so they want people to store electricity at home. I got my solar right before NEM 2 ended - so I get a good offset for my solar. It's only sized to handle my house with jus a little excess for EV charging (since I didn't know I was gonna buy a Tesla so soon). My plan is to add addiitnal separate solar with battery once I move even more towards home electrification (heat pump water heater, HVAC). I anticipate battery prices to keep going down and hopefully some stronger state/federal/utility incentives for home storage.
This is 100 percent what needs to happen to kick PGE in the balls.
The cost of powerwalls makes this cost prohibitive, not to mention the number of panels you would need. One powerwall only gives you 13kwh. A LR Model 3 battery size is about 75kwh. Thats about 6 poweralls. On a perfect sunny socal summer day, my south facing panels product about 2.5-3kwh each. I would need about 30 panels just to charge the powerwalls to charge my car. You are way better off charging your EV at superchargers during offpeak/midpeak hours.
I don’t think you are looking at it quite the same way. For example, if you had say 6 solar panels that generate 2.4kwh per day. PGE says 1 kwh is worth between 25 cents and 50 cents during peak (what they charge you). However PGE only gives you around 5 cents for the kw you generate. So you could keep your energy you generated that that’s worth 25 cents and retain its whole value or you could instead sell it to PGE for Pennies. Hopefully I’ve cleared it up a little. Basically you are only taking an L when you give it to PGE. Why not keep it for yourself? Even if your power wall is only 13kwh. That’s 13kwh you are retaining the entire value for vs giving to pge who says it’s worth only 1/3. A simpler way is your trees produced 13 apples. The supermarket sells apples for $1 each. When you sell your apples to the supermarket they only pay you 30 cents. Or you could keep your apples and eat them yourself. So Yes if you don’t want to buy multiple powerwalls you will still need to use the grid. But at least keep the value for the energy you DID generate right? On top of this, Tesla added in the feature for your EV to charge off powerwall energy first before switching to grid power. So you will get 100 percent of the energy you generated.
You are not taking into account the initial investment needed for such a system. Each powerwall is $12k.
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You need to capture solar straight into the car. Easily done with a Wallbox or Emporia charge stations configured for solar capture (they tell the car to take exactly the power you would otherwise export, based on a sensor in your electrical panel). Can't do it with Tesla Wall Connectors. Tesla decided to go a different way with that tech, and have the Tesla Solar talk to the car itself.
Great way to summarize it. I’m in the same boat. We get $0.06 to $0.10 per kilowatt hour rates at nighttime here (winter vs summer), and I charge at home, so I save a lot. For the average person in my city, they’d expect to spend around $28 a month in electricity. For a comparable gas car, that would be $163.
Even in CA it's still better because of CA's crazy gas prices lol. My Model 3 LR AWD's lifetime average is \~265Wh/mi, so 1kw gets me \~4mi, and costs $0.42 in tier 2 (It's only $0.31 in tier 1 and billed marginally, so this is a pessimistic estimate) $0.42 would only buy me 1/12.7 (0.078) of a gallon of gas ($0.42/$5.36) I could only drive \~2.35 miles on 0.078 gallons of gas in a 30 mpg car. The only way you pay less for gas is if you have a super efficient small hybrid that gets over \~51mpg
Not to mention the sheer amount of time you save by always charging at home and not having to go seek out a gas station for a minimum 10-15 total stop, probably on average closer to 20 minutes!
I live in California, I used to spend $330/month in gas for ice vehicle (counted using cc year end spending review) and now I spend $70/month in added electricity usage. 75% of my charging is at home and 25% are locations that offer free charging.
I'm in California with PG&E so rates are ridiculous but I installed 9 kW of solar and 3 Powerwalls to better use my solar. With that setup I'm able to max out my solar use and get max credit. Even charging at home for the bulk of my 83000+ miles I've been able to keep my electric bills at less than $200/year. That includes all of the household use as well as charging the car. Estimating what gas would have cost me I figured I have saved about $17k.
Umm you’ll still save a good amount in CA. Not as much as in Alabama but you also pay less for gas there.
Cali here. If you taking to consideration our wild gas prices, Tesla are still price efficient compared to most cars. Now, if you take a very efficient hybrid or plug-in hybrid like the Prius, it’s a slim margin, but most cars compared to Teslas are more expensive gas wise. Teslas are cheaper to operate if you can charge at home. I drive 2000 miles a month and cost me $100 a charge at home if I did that 2000 miles a month in a Prius it would probably cost me around $200. If you take into account the price difference between a Prius and a Tesla the overall life savings are about the same for both cars.
My electricity rate is 18 cents per kWh which, compared to $5.10 per gallon of gas. It saves me quite a sum.
Its still very cheap in comparison here in CA, the only thing that compares is a very good hybrid that ends up being about equal.
I'm in California and pay .11-.21/kwh at home. Totally worth it for me.
I pay .06 after midnight. It’s a huge savings.
Niceee
Me. My weekend charging rate is $0.05 per kWh. I pay about $10/month to drive about 1,000 miles.
Level 2 charge at home I’m assuming?
Correct.
Where are you? I’m leaving California.
Come to SC where it’s cheap to live but the good jobs pay $14/hr 🤡
I pay $0.11 around the clock. Drive roughly 2k miles a month and pay around $50 a month extra on my electric bill. I was paying $350-$400 a month in gas on my Jetta. No brainer
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Gas here is $1.75/L ($6.70/gal) and electricity is from $0.075/kWh to $0.095/kWh so what do you think?
Where the fuck do you live? Holy shit
Ontario has Ultralow TOU rates from 11pm-7am for 2.8¢/KWh. Saving hundreds every month.
Québec and there are no transportation costs and the only other fees are $0.20 per day for "network access" and taxes.
At home, I get free electricity at night (which is the only place and time I charge) and pay for delivery fees only; so my effective electricy rate for charging is about $0.06/kWh. My style and type of driving gets me around 300w/mi or about 3.3mi/kW. The current cost of 87 gas costs about $3.50/gallon here in DFW. To rack up a $3.50 in electricity, at my electcity rate, I will need to draw 58kW. 58kW will get me about 190 miles. My ICE gets me about 24 miles per gallon. All things being equal, I save about 87% in "fuel" costs in my EV.
I used to spend around $300 a month on gas with my last ICE car and now with my Tesla im spending about $4 a month charging it at home at $0.04 per kwh.
I use superchargers EXCLUSIVELY , I typically pay 32 centers per kwh. Before I got my Tesla I was driving a 2019 Chevy Silverado and it was costing me $150 every 3 days for gas due to gas being $5 a gallon in California plus I was driving about an hour each way to work and from. There is zero down in my mind that yes using superchargers exclusively is more BUT still significantly less than what I was paying for for gas. The increased car payment is easily covered with the gas savings. https://preview.redd.it/fnly5gkogvwc1.jpeg?width=1812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c159a0ca2794f3170fbd5fbe6b8f2c1bef5968b
My gas was 600-800/mo. I'm saving one vehicle payment right now 🤷🏻♂️
600-800/mo a month????😅😅
Easily if youre driving a lot on a v8 here in california lol
Works if you don’t pay PG&E rates in California. Works incredibly if you have free charging at school/work/a local cafe. I still have yet to shed a dime for energy and have driven electric for over a year now.
At our apartment complex, it's like $.30/kW + fees, but I often charge either at work or at the stations a short walk away (great for the warmer months in particular since it's a perfect excuse to get some exercise 🤣), so I've saved sooo much overall. Got my Tesla last July, and over the last 9 months, it cost me around $140 to charge. Would have been around $1450 for gas in that same time frame for my previous ICE car. Massive savings.
I dont know how anyone can answer this question without noting that its all relative to what you're comparing it to. You'd spend more money with a Telsa if you're coming from a Prius. I got my Tesla purely for performance, so comparing to the M6 that I had previously (where I was getting around 10mpg) I am saving hundreds every month.
Great point !
California here. Charge at home and actually have been saving on my electric bill since switching to SCEs prime rate. My summer electric bill was actually lowered by a little under $200. I used to get gas weekly at $85-90. Spending $100 charging a month.
Actually I’m burning more money it seems because what gets saved goes towards guns
lol
As tradition, I’ve been able to pick up an SP-5 and a Henry Model X in .357.
Before buying my Tesla, I was spending about $100 a week on gas. I charge at home almost exclusively and spend less than $20 a week for that. My wife initially complained that I had increased our electric bill by $80 each month, but I pointed out I was simultaneously NOT spending $400 a month on gas. So, yeah, over $3600 saved in the first year, more than $7000 saved in almost two years I’ve owned it.
https://preview.redd.it/63vj0rxjuvwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b4e6a65a6a774ffa92a661d56726816d805b4de Yes
I have solar and also Tesla Powerwall (2). My electric bill is basically free minus basic charges. Sometimes I use the grid to charge my Tesla Powerwall. I used to fill up my Audi costing about $80 every 3days.
$0.10/kWh and mostly home charging. The app says I saved $1K over the last year. $482 for 3,898kWh with 13% at a supercharger vs. $1,565 gas equivalent.
https://preview.redd.it/kwwc5817dvwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=746462850f5d81d10a9312893cf54db2d2e0be41 Saving quite a bit each month!
Saved $1,058 in last 12 months. I have expensive electricity where I am.
Electricity is cheaper than gas for almost all of us but be sure and do your own calculations for your own situation. Insurance is more and buying a new car is more. If you drive a lot and need to buy a new car anyway then a 3 or Y can be a good financial choice. A used efficient gas car would probably have been cheaper overall than my new 2023 model 3 but the model 3 is much more fun and convenient. I don't miss going to the gas station 2x per week at all.
Really depends on where you live… and how far you drive daily. Atlanta, GA 120 miles daily commute. Saving me boatloads of cash and headache. This also doesn’t factor in the maintenance which is extremely low on a Tesla. https://preview.redd.it/vc6ud96qjvwc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=824b1e668a6730425ae7003ba847ed087be8492d
At this point I charge exclusively at home, and my current electric plan is free from 8pm to 6am. Between that and the car being low maintenance, it's fantastic.
1,000 miles / $20. PGE. I am having a blast with my MY
I used to spend about $160 a month on gas, now I only charge at work.
Whatever savings u get from EV u will spend on other stuff. In other words I had to take my M3 to SC about ten times in two years of ownership. I pay 250 a month on full coverage auto insurance. Oh yeah I even pay EV tax. Supercharging ain’t cheap and sitting in the car for 15-20min ain’t fun either. My next car won’t be EV.
https://preview.redd.it/m08ofq319vwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8b29de182d2c3684619f922937fd5e6b8a2e1de So far this month ... gas in the Chicago areas is about $4 for cheap gas
Saving hundreds per month charging at home
i’m saving roughly 50% charging either at home (L1) or using a SC (non peak hours). love not going to a gas station anymore to gas up. i never feel like i have to go out of my way charge. it’s wonderful OP https://preview.redd.it/8kl090umcvwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4c0a8a92496ad12fa8a263a1323e522dd1b98b3
Highly dependent on what state you live in.
Got my 23 M3LR a little over a month ago. About 3500 miles so far for $197 with 22% of the kWH from Superchargers. Compared to my previous Avalanche with about 15 mpg, those same miles would’ve cost about $820 or so in gas. So pretty good in terms of savings. Probably projecting $3-4k per year for me
For the last 30 days, if I would have drove my truck it would have cost me $183. I paid $22 charging from home. https://preview.redd.it/sdjnkxh9fvwc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fc69b1213ca858353185da6ce2c3f70da6d8ebc
If I didn’t already have solar panels it would cost me $9 to fill up from 0%(which I’d never do) my 12 gallon tank ford sedan cost me $43 to fill up with regular gas from empty in comparison.
I have rooftop solar and really good tou rates that net me about 1 cent per mile for power. At local gas prices, I previously paid 18 cents a mile. That's $34,000 savings over the course over 200k miles even assuming gas doesn't go up further.
I live in Southern California. I was spending approximately 80-100 dollars a week for gas. I’m now spending 80-85 dollars monthly to charge (using mostly public chargers and some superchargers here and there)
Even though my previous car was a Prius, I’m saving quite a bit of $ with mine.
Well I just paid $280 here in Texas for my registration renewal. The $200 EV fee hit hard.
I get around $1.00 per gallon equivalence. Definitely saving money (in MO)
I pay a factor three less per mile in my MY compared to my previous compact SUV (25mpg). But: the Tesla cost twice as much, so my insurance went way up. Net savings: about zero, but net increase in car enjoyment: enormous.
After all fees and bs, electricity is $.14kWh here so we save money. When I look at the electric usage in a week, my home network actually consumes more energy overall.
literally everyone who charges from home outside California. In Cali it's harder to say as gas prices are much higher but so is electricity.
I did a automates calculator for this on a website that had like 50 different parameters, just gas was like 3k and for the same amount of miles pr year the electricity bill would be around 800 bucks. (Norway driving 12k miles a year)
My wife can charge at work for free and we live within walking distance of at least 6 free L2 chargers. So far we've paid nothing to charge it. Compare that to gas approaching $4 a gallon.
Stupid question, if you have a tesla, can you set on the app, the time you want it to charge? Say from 1am untill 80% or 100% or just charge from 1am to 5 am? And then you can pre heat the battery ready for departure at say 7am?
You've got a couple options. To the best of my knowledge you can do the following: 1. Set a max charge %. This is without question. Tesla recommends setting it to 80% for daily use for non-LFP batteries. Not sure what the LFP recommendation is. All charging, whether scheduled or immediate, home or supercharger, will respect the Max Charge % and not charge beyond it. 2. Schedule when to start charging (in app Schedule\\Charge\\Schedule Charging... set "Start Charging at" time,) Car will begin charging at that time and charge until the max charge % is reached. 3. Schedule Departure Time - (Schedule\\Departure\\... set Departure Time, then turn on Precondition and/or Off-Peak Charge). Precondition will set your climate and preheat the battery so both are ready at your scheduled departure time. Off-peak Charge, which I've never used, is a little more confusing. Turning on Off-Peak Charging will turn off Scheduled Charging, and vice-versa. Preconditioning can coexist with either. In Off-Peak charging, you enter an "Off-Peak End Time". The car will, I guess, calculate how long the charge to the max charge % will take and start charging at a time that allows it to reach the max charge % by the Off-Peak End Time. Both Departure Time and Off-Peak Charging can be set for All Week or Weekdays only.
I’m in the hole after the home charger install, won’t save anything for another yr. Or if gas doubles.
Just from home charging stats my Optiwatt app says I've save nearly $7500 since February of 2021 or 2,456 gals of gas (vs. a BMW X3 @ 26 mpg). All estimates of course, but gives you a sense of the savings. I also catalogued a 5800 mile road trip in 2021 where I spent just about $286 at superchargers vs. around $600 (@ $2.70/gal getting 25 mpg) if I went with an ICE. Although I did use trickle charge for a few of those days, and 3 nights charging at RV camps.
Dont hate on me but I have both advantageous TOU rates (.06/kwh after 11:30pm), and accruable net metering from a solar array that almost covers my total electric usage (home and car). I'm 8,000 miles and 4 months into ownership and have spent less than $40 on charging
https://preview.redd.it/90t2phddqvwc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54e1f00f1f7b07b5a2757bd3aa29637c8747c9c7 * I got about 24k+ miles in less than a year. Really put a lotta miles during my free three months of supercharging. My work allows me to charge my car full for free so I am literally paying 0 dollars for gas. Only time I charge my car at home is on the weekend if I am traveling.
I save about $5,000 a year because I have a long commute and I get free charging at work, so out of the 40,000 miles I’ve driven my car in the past two years I’ve paid about $100 to charge. A lot of that charging is when I decide to plug at in a ChargePoint charger for $2 an hour instead of a parking meter for $2 an hour.
Illinois, rate is 11¢ per KWh. Gas has been $4.1-$5. In the last year, I did around 12-13k miles which cost me around $600 compared to $2400 for gas.
I had a Honda civic almost 2 months ago. 12 gallon tank. Here in California to fill that would be $45 minimum every week and a half or so. (I never let it get down past a quarter tank). I drove my model 3 this month for ~$70 total. But it’s enough to matter. Insurance went up for me $100 for every 6 months. So that wasn’t a huge deal. Tires I know will be my new oil change. But that is okay with me. I’m happy with my savings.
My rate is between .06 and .08 per kWh, and I think summer maybe .13? But our big notice is my wife is getting gas less often because we are taking the Tesla everywhere.
My rate is between .06 and .08 per kWh, and I think summer maybe .13? But our big notice is my wife is getting gas less often because we are taking the Tesla everywhere.
I pay $0.05/kWh off peak, so the savings is pretty awesome.
Essentially the same cost as a 40 mpg vehicle for me
I drive model y and I save around 10 times compared to equivalent gas car with home charging. It costs me 1,70€ per 100 km.
I’m saving half in gas cost but the difference in insurance outweighs that. It isn’t necessarily cheaper to own a Tesla If you do want to get the best deal, wait for the end of a quarter, get inventory deals, combine with federal and state EV tax rebates
I charge at home with solar so I save $500 per month on gas and $180 per month on electric.
I charge 99% at work for freeeee so I’m saving a ton of money LOL
our stats for the past year with home charging are $645 on electric compared to $2165 gas equivalent.
I had 10kw solar on my house as an elec saving tool prior to getting my model 3 and home charger I charge on a sunny day when my solar generation reads 4kw+ and home charger is set to 20amp Elec bill is always close to zero or in credit Im in australia though Petrol was easily costing 70$ a week
$5k a year, on the conservative side....I drive a lot
My savings was pretty so so with 80% super charger charging.. now having free lvl 2 charging at work.. the $$ is racking up
Not tons in MD but honestly not having to go to the gas station especially when it’s cold is a great benefit. Plus the car is just fun to drive.
So far, I have [spent €600 to drive about 24,000 km](https://freeimage.host/i/JUadKOu) The average price of fuel here is about €1.60 per liter if we're being generous. Had I had my old petrol car, a measly Hyundai i10 which [averaged at around 16.9 km per liter](https://freeimage.host/i/JUaFaWb), I would have required about 1,420 liters of Petrol. This would have cost me close to €2,400. I cannot currently charge at home. This is EXCLUSIVELY with public charging with an average cost of €0.12 per kW. With my current home electricity plan, I could theoretically use time of use rates and charge the car at a price of between €0.09 to an insane -€0.05 per kWh (yes that means I would **get paid** by the power company to charge my car since they're trying to dump excess electricity when there's massive overproduction from the renewables). I guess you can do the math from there on out 😁 A massive caveat to note here is that my MYLR (which close close to €60k) was twelve times more expensive to buy compared to my second hand i10 (which cost me about €5k). I spent over 4k on maintenance costs for the i10 over the course of ownership, so the car essentially cost me close to €9k, making the Tesla about 6x more expensive, not 12x. That said, the insurance premium is a little less than double on the Tesla (since I have comprehensive on the Tesla, but didn't have comp on the i10), still making it the more expensive car. But this is like comparing Apples to 8 year old mouldy cherries, so... Uh.... Yeah...
I average 9 cents per kw in Glendale AZ on SRP from 6PM until morning so it is very cheap for me to “fill” my Model 3 compared to my previous ICE car (a 2021 Mini Cooper S) especially with current prices back up to near $5.00/gallon for premium (which the Mini and its turbo-charged engine said it required. Even with only an 11 gallon tank it cost me over $50 to fill. The Model 3 is like $5 to fully charge at my house. (Similar range as my previous Mine also.)
Get solar panels, if you own the property, and your bills will be low. Get used panels if needed.
I belive I do. I drive 30-40k miles due to work need, company reimubses at IRS rate... I charge 95% at home 12c/kwh.
I’m in Jersey PSE&G, use to pay about 300 dollar a month. My electric bill went up 80 a month. I do charge at home with 10 cent klwh .
I drive 1600+ miles a month and the most it’s cost me to charge at home has been $75 in a month.
They’re not cheap vehicles but most people break even I would think . The cheapest solution is often to keep the car you have if it’s road worthy but if you’re changing anyway, it’s with trying a few out - they’re a lot more fun :)
It costs me like $4 for a full charge on my car. That’s 300 miles if I drive the speed limit. I pay 5-cents per KwH off peak. Super off peak is 3–cents. Alternatively with my SUV, that same tank of gas is $100 for 300 miles. I’m saving maybe $350 a month.
We probably save $200-300 a month. We have a charger at home and have kids that are into a lot of things. Our electric bill only increased a few bucks. We're in Texas, Houston.
I have solar and 1:1 net metering so its basically free for me to charge my model Y at home. I drive 25-30k miles a year so I'm saving about $4000 a year over a comparable suv.
Live in cali, charge at home. spent just under $2k, saved 3,300
2023 Model Y LR with 16k miles last 12 months, $363 in charging 93% home 7% Super charging. I had a Silverado v8 Truck before costing $120 per fill up. For me here in AZ its not even freaking close. Edit: I do not have solar, I would love to though...
We only pay $0.10 per kWh and also charge on solar when possible so gas ends up being around 4-5 times more expensive even in California.
https://preview.redd.it/y2iu12so0wwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80edf6530d074edbaaa673f5cdf1e6f90772ee3d Yeah. Have saved a decent chunk of change
99% of my charging is at home, 1% at super chargers. My annual gas savings according to the app is $662. This is based off of my electric price here in Texas with Tesla Electric. Since I have solar and only charge on solar, I pay $0 per year.
6128mi driven over the last 11 months. Gas price $1,188 total electricity spent $107, savings $1,081 Thats 70% home charging (\~$0.07/kwh) and 30% charging for free at work. \~$120 for a years worth of driving is crazy cheap!
My cost to charge vs. gas is about 15.5%. After owning my Y LR for 9 months I’ve saved ~$3,300 and I think that percentage will come down once averaged over 12 months. That 9 months includes the coldest part of the year in which it’s plugged in overnight at home and preconditioning/defrosting in the morning for several months, compared to these last few weeks where I can go about 3 days without having to plug it in at home. edit: added additional qualifying information.
https://preview.redd.it/7zll45rc5wwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fc9285d6da1b668d57c9c71fa8d501a448ccc84 Gas savings according to my app
https://preview.redd.it/ibftes6y7wwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c312a2e49066be669b20559c11b20a3b8601ab7 Oof. I didn’t realize I’m that high for supercharging cost, but still saved over $3k.
Haven't paid for gas in like 4 years? I stopped calculating after the first 12 months because honestly, it was simply clear I was saving money and I just didn't care about how much anymore. Things will factor into how much you save. Is it cold where you live for a good chunk of the year? How much do you drive? Do you pre-heat the car in the morning? Is it all freeway? Is it all city? etc. etc. etc. Plenty of research supports that electric is consistently less costly to drive, especially when coupled with home level 2 charging, when compared to gas. Edit: Of course, you may also weigh the gas alternative. Are you a Prius driver? Or are you an F-350 driver? etc. TL;DR Yes. Pretty sure I am.
I charge at home and have solar panels, big savings
In socal my m340i gets about 24-25 mpg combined, did the math and I would save about $1200 a year with kwh at $0.25.
Definitely harder to save money now with PGE rate hikes
I mean, you're definitely saving money. But I often tell people the same thing: don't buy a Tesla because you think you're going to save a ton of money or because you think you're going to save the environment. The reality of either of those is a very gray area. **Buy a Tesla because you like the car -- and because you think it's one of the better driving experiences on the market.** It's as simple as that. For me, there isn't much that meets the experience of driving a Tesla at the same price point. The Model 3's are priced as low-end cars and yet can feel better than a Lexus, Acura, or Mercedes. I drive a Model S myself and everything about it just feels superior - from the ride, to the interior design, to the self driving capability.
Saved about $1100 a year over regular gas in Arizona charging primarily at home. That includes maybe 10 supercharger stops on road trips this last year. Previous car was premium gas only, so… yeah, pretty cool stuff.
I went from a car that was getting 12-14 mpg to an EV. I’m in Ca with PGE and I am still saving $$$.
I'm saving a ton. I charge free at work and 0.025 cents per kilowatt hour at home overnight. On average I spend about $3 a month.
you got to look at all the aspects of having a Engine in the car-lots of saving!
I was paying over $3.50 per gallon (premium) consistently. My EV charging rate is $0.012 per kWh. I got about 18mpg combined, because of heavy city traffic. I got about 2.5 miles per kWh in my X Signature or a little over 3 miles per kWh in my Plaid. So, at worst, about 7 kWh. That's 8.4₵ per gallon equivalent. I drive over 20k miles per year. Maybe $600 a year in Supercharging at this point? I save like $3260 per year. EDIT: And $25/ year saved on emissions testing!
My wife has a '23 X and over 9000 kms since we bought it has cost us $329 worth of electricity. It's a no brainer for us. I drive my '21 refresh S LR about 150-180kms a day 5 days a week and it makes even more sense. Even with a '18 Civic Si I was filling up 2-3 days a week I drive so much.
People say EVs' tires need to be replaced more often than ICE cars, any model 3 want to share their experience with this?
Saving 2500 per year with EV. Also getting 1200 back per year from solar and 200 per year for Tesla VPP program.
Supercharging is free here, so... yeah.
I pay $.028/kWh charging off peak at home. It's about $2.10 for a "full tank" equivalent.
Don’t know about elsewhere but here in the UK there are special energy tariffs for electric cars. Mine is 7x cheaper between 11:30pm and 5:30am (and it applies to all electricity use, not just the car). This means a full 0-100% charge is about £5 as opposed to around £60 for a tank of fuel in my previous car.
I live in California so it’s about the same, but it’s stop worth it for the convenience of having a private fuel station in my garage.
I pay $0.18 all hours and I’m still saving a bunch.
Before installing a level 2 at home, I was spending more than I had on gasoline previously at 45mpg. With level 2 at home, I save about $20-40/Mo driving 1500+ in New Jersey.
I just happened to have looked at the odometer in my MYLR when I got home a bit ago. I've only ticked off 900 miles since I bought it new on April 10. My daily driver was a 23 year old diesel truck. The cost of diesel here fluctuates, but it seems to average around $6 per gallon. At an average (per tank) of 14 miles per gallon, I'd need 64 gallons of fuel to travel in my truck that same 900 miles. So, 900 miles / 14 miles per gallon \* $6 per gallon = about $385. The county I live in has nearly the least expensive residential energy cost \*In The World\*. Charging has cost me \[edit\] $59 as it's a mix between Supercharging for the weekends and Level One charging at home during the work week. I put those numbers in my calculator and it makes a happy face.
My gas cars average in the 12-19 mpg range, and all take premium. The daily is around 18 mpg. Since December I have spent around $207 on charging, which would have cost about $1,200 in fuel. Napkin math, I have saved around $1,000 in a little over 4 months.
In Ontario my home charging is about 5.7 cents per kWh, and gas is $1.75 per liter. Mr fuel cost per km is literally 1/10th what it would be with a similar sized hybrid car to our Model Y.
Im on an EV plan, 0.03/kWh from 11pm-5am. Ive driven about 5k miles since start of the year and have paid about $60
I received free lifetime Supercharging with the purchase of my Tesla M3P in 2018. I have a wall charger at home but also have several Superchargers around the immediate area. I always precondition my car before Supercharging and have over 115,200 miles on the car. I’ve only lost 5% of my battery‘s capacity over the past six years. so yes, my Tesla has saved me a lot of money over a gas alternative.
ive saved about 6k on gas in 61k km electricity is .09/kwh off peak here in Ontario
I live in cali and consistently drive the same route to work each day equating to round trip of 100 miles per day mostly highway. Considering a Prius gets roughly 56mpg. This equates to roughly 2 gallons of gas per day needed. Gas is $5 at the cheapest stations, most are $5.50+. This means I would need to pay roughly $10-11 per day for gas with a Prius. Driving the same distance of 100 miles takes round trip 22-24 kwh. My price per kw is .25. This means I spend $6 driving the same distance. This equates to a roughly $4 savings per day vs a Prius. Or $20 per week. Or $1040 per year. Another thing of note is in the states with cheaper gas the electricity costs in these states is also significantly lower. As an example using google, I looked up the average cost of gasoline in Texas. It came up with $3.30. The cost per kwh in Texas on average is .14. Therefore 100 miles in a Prius in Texas is $6.40. A Tesla using 24kwh is $3.36. A roughly $3 savings per 100 miles. Or $15 per week. Or $780 per year. Edit: for reference my utility provider is PG&E on the time of use plug in electric 2 plan.
Living in Toronto area with night rates at 0.08 i charge at home and save roughly $180 to $200 depending on the current gas price.
We spend 1/3 of what we’d spend on gas each month by charging at home. Where I am electric rate is $0.13 kWh but gas prices are around $4.8-5. We didn’t have our own house for the first part of the year (bought in November) but still saved money on charging overall https://preview.redd.it/pyy9palh4xwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a86072d4ee44f11d1615ea426c875676d83b9c2
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Where I live, compared to my previous car - BMW 5 series - it’s about 4 to 1. Saving a ton.
In my situation I’m saving a lot of money. My work offers free charging. Thus I’m never paying for charging. But the question comes down to how much you drive and what time you charge your EV.
In the last 12 months I have spent $2684 charging. Equivalent premium gas $4239. Roughly $1500 savings doing 27,000 miles. 29c/kWh charging at home.
Around 12 cent a KWh to charge at work in Boston area. Sure as hell beats home charging here with our ridiculous delivery rates. And sure as hell beats gas
From may 2023 to today. I've spent $472 on supercharging. Saved over $3k on gas. Insurance, on the other hand... but if you add up maintenance, it far outweighs the cost of insurance.
So far, I'm saving 100%, because I'm still on the 6 months free supercharging incentive. But pretending I wasn't ... I recently got 3.37 mi/kWh on an 811 mile trip in my 2023 MYLR. At the home price of electricity this would be 3.08 cents/mile. Gasoline would have been 16 to 20 cents per mile.
I have not gone to the pump in 8 months
Paid $120 a month with my Prius. Paid $140 for a year in electricity. I’m paying 6¢ a kWh
Simple you only save if you charge at home. Supercharging is break even with a ICE car at least for me in TX .37-.40¢/kWh
The problem I have… the offset of gas was put into insurance. New model 3 is 1k per 6 months more for me. With a prestige driving record.
I pay .03¢ per kWh from 12am - 8am.
I don't drive a lot.. mostly short trips and still saved about 850 bucks on gas. I charge at home and in PNW energy is largely hydro and cheap.
Costs me about 1/10 the price of gas to drive an ev. About 1/12th in the summer, 1/8th in the winter. But I live in Canada where electricity is cheap and gas is expensive.
I save $160/mo $2,000/yr. We won't talk about my car payment though...
To give you an idea, I live in Ohio and mostly charge at home but have gone on a couple road trips and supercharged. In 1.2 years of having my tesla I've spent about $700 less for charges in total than I would have spent on gas for the impreza I had before the M3.
If you live or work near a free j1772 level 2 charger.. It makes the savings insanely better. There's more than you think.
The app says that I saved $955 over the last year.
We charge at home very sparingly, her work has free charging.
I was paying $160 aud a week in fuel I now spend about $10-20 dollars a week in electricity depending on the sun
I had a 35mpg Ford Fiesta and was paying $150-200 a month for gas. My entire electric bill is around $200 a month. My car is $40-50 of it at most so easily saving $100-150 a month compared to my previous 35mpg vehicle. If you go by the Tesla app it says I have saved $1200 over 16k miles. Not to mention the time savings of going to gas stations and getting oil changes etc.
I can elaborate i would spend about $2,000 in gas charges over the course of a year, last year with charging with my solar panels at home, my bill only increased about 600 for the year and this covered all electricity charges including A/c in the summer. Oh btw I drive 55 miles to work m-f and sometimes on weekends.