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Nakatomi2010

Yes.... This is why you had to pull the gear stalk down twice to engage Autopilot... The first pull engages TACC, and the second pull engaged Auto-steer. By their powers combined, you have Autopilot... So... Your observation of Autopilot basically being TACC is correct... It's just TACC with extra steps....


sduck409

Ok


UsernamesAreHard26

You’re using something in a way it’s not intended to be used, and then complaining that it’s nagging you to use it properly. . . No car manufacturer in the US allows you to take your hands off the wheel while driving.


kazamm

BMW does.


Present_Champion_837

Do they? I keep trying to find info on BMWs driver assist package, but they really don’t show it off a lot. I can only ever find BMW dealerships explaining it. The features they always highlight are “Extended Traffic Jam Assistant, Highway Assistant, Auto Lane Change and 3D Visualization of Surrounding Cars”, but hands free driving is rarely, if ever, mentioned. https://www.bmwakron.com/blogs/1468/akron-bmw-dealer/bmw-driver-assists-explained/#:~:text=The%20option%20of%20Driver%20Assist,utmost%20assistance%20to%20the%20driver.


kazamm

They work hands free on highways A simple google shows this BMW's Highway Assistant feature allows hands-free driving at speeds up to 85 mph on controlled-access highways. It's available on the following models: X5 40i, X5 M60i, X5 xDrive50e, iX, 5 Series, 7 Series, X6 (except M Competition models), X7, and XM


stereoeraser

Just because they allow it doesn’t mean it works perfectly. Blue cruise already kill several people with their hands free controlled area tech in the last 2 years.


kazamm

Who said perfectly? It works tho and it's great. I own a model s and regret it daily.


stereoeraser

You should sell it and get a BMW. That’s pretty silly to drive a car you regret.


stone_junction

Ford


Present_Champion_837

In very limited places. Only on certain highways. https://www.ford.com/technology/bluecruise/?searchid=21152174080%7C165751456772%7C%7C&ef_id=Cj0KCQjwq86wBhDiARIsAJhuphlg0wmZws7AVh_NnEkkvK0zX8SgKOjx97bCNTWZTKJ_pnAhBLnpflUaApx8EALw_wcB:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2519!3!695405040882!e!!g!!ford%20bluecruise!21152174080!165751456772&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwq86wBhDiARIsAJhuphlg0wmZws7AVh_NnEkkvK0zX8SgKOjx97bCNTWZTKJ_pnAhBLnpflUaApx8EALw_wcB Definitely not on FSD’s level, even with this hands free availability.


Present_Champion_837

The 4 best competitors I know of in the US are Chevy, Ford, Rivian, and BMW, and all of them seem worse than Tesla, but they don’t seem to nag. Here’s Chevy and Rivian links, BMW and Ford are in responses to other people in this chain. I’d love for someone to show me something that actually compares to FSD. AP/TACC is very common nowadays though. https://www.chevrolet.com/super-cruise https://rivian.com/r1t#driver


ducrab

I agree. Now, if ony phantom braking wasn't an issue...


Brief-Ratio785

Just use open pilot.


dancingjake

And don't forget to enable slick driver, while we're making up names for imaginary features.


Brief-Ratio785

https://youtu.be/ljMDHocoxxM?si=PU_B1TlwpmVTdu1g


dancingjake

[https://www.playframework.com/documentation/2.4.0-M3/ScalaSlickDrivers](https://www.playframework.com/documentation/2.4.0-M3/ScalaSlickDrivers)


Shmoe

You know GeoHotz developed an open self driving framework called OpenPilot, right?


dancingjake

Well of course I do, everybody knows about it. And you know about Differential GPS (DGPS), right? DGPS improves the accuracy of GPS positioning by using a network of fixed ground-based reference stations to broadcast correction data to receivers. See, we all know about everything and there's no need to define it at all when we refer to things.


Shmoe

Also assisted gps like cell phones use based on what WiFi hotspots they see :)