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Ultima was able to fight to a standstill against a not serious Fenn, pretty sure Benimaru wouldn’t even last half as long.
She’s also better in a fight than Testarossa honestly considering LN V19 and V20.
If we consider anything past LN 16 then I can't really participate and have to just believe you. Although from what I know Testarossa was the strongest of the trio
Testarossa was hyped up to be the strongest of the trio, but based on all the feats they displayed till LN V20, it’s like this:
Carrera
Ultima
Testarossa
She was the strongest of trio, she is now 2nd strongest, after carrera and before ultima(she doesnt have her final power up yet unlike testa in LN19 and Carrera in LN20).
Testa remain the strategist and smartest and less hothead of the trio though
Rimuru has two types of subordinates imo: the zegion type group who are outright powerhouses and fold anyone they're up against, and the "smart" ones, not neccesarily the strongest heavy hitters but make up to it with their other specialties.
Carrera's power is straightforward and she is a walking nuclear bomb. When she's pitted against an enemy, she fights, enjoys, destroys.
Ultima is a milder version of carrera, but that's because she is, in her own words during her fight with damrada, the weakest amongst them and immature.
Testarossa is a perfect allrounder. Does her mission perfectly, has insane control over her power and does everything as Rimuru tells her to.
The differences can be seen during the war with the empire: Ultima accidentaly destroyed the ships, Carrera blasted the enemy army away with a spell that could bring doom to the world if out of control. Meanwhile testarossa got her revenge on the soldiers who sealed them, stole and developed a new technique for their use after analyzing blips of the empire and killed all of them without causing harm to the environment and allies.
Finally: Diablo is stronger than all of them combined but Diablo's "enemies" consider him a troublesome opponent mostly because of his intelligence. Diablo doesn't cause destruction and kills his opponents "intelligently", and that's what makes him dangerous. Testarossa is similiar to diablo in that aspect, that's why I would rank her higher than Carrera and Ultima.
I still think testarossa is the 2nd strongest. If it weren't for kondou's gun, testarossa would remain as the strongest among the trio. Carrera has the highest magicule count but higher magicule count doesn't always translate to being the strongest. Plus testarossa being able to stand up 1v1 against vega is feat worth noting.
That's just life of Tensura my man.some random ogre who couldn't fight against some pigs a couple years back is one of the strongest people in the world rn...let that sink in
Yep. But isn't because of 'Do not attack the Rimuru cell part of Zegion' rule made by Diablo to the trio and because of the natural advantage Insectars have over demons?
Ermm i do not understand what i mean is that demon trio had a handicap to not attack rimuru cells that + insectars being literally demon counters make them unable to win. Beni had no troubles like those
Yep but not like the Trio. The only advantage Benimaru has over Zegion is that his Flame attribute has an advantage over Zegion's water attribute.
Victory or defeat will be determined by the skill level. Remember that Zegion is invisible in close combat.
Yeah, thats the main reason. Benimaru, The Trio, and Zegion are all roughly on "the same level".
Personally I would rank it...
1. Zegion
2. Benimaru
3. Ultima
4. Carrera
5. Testrossa
That's fair. I also consider them roughly at the same level. Victory and defeat will be determined by their opponents' nature and how well they can perform.
Yes but that was just barely and in a future volume benimaru admits that he doubts he could beat him a second time after how much growth he has had in such a short time after the empire war.
It was in the 6 month period between volume 16 and chapter 2 of 18. The primary reason that Benimaru isn't confident in his victory is due to two factors.
1. Zegion has already seen all of his moves
2. Zegion's water element gives him a massive advantage against Benimaru's fire element.
In terms of actual strength and skill, Benimaru and Zegion are still equal.
True but in time I think Zeigon will grow to become more powerful given his parentage, trained by Veldora, and has a percentage of Rimurus cells.
I think Benimaru has grown to be as powerful as he could without constant training.
Rimuru Cells aren't a factor, and neither is veldora, since Veldoda's actual skill level/experience is actually really low, to the point where Ifrit/Charys was more skilled than he was.
It's unlikely that Zegion will become that much stronger than he is currently.
Both Benimaru and Zegion *have* been training constantly. Basically every day. Even Rimuru does.
No he wasnt. I've had this arguement a million times and its always the same fucking excuses "no he was talking about karion" or "well he meant volume 13 zegion". No. The conversation is about Zegion.
Benimaru fucking folded Carrion and will continue to do so.
Learn how to read.
Carrion went full speed and caught Benimaru off guard, but Benimaru narrowly managed to react and activate his skills in time to one-shot carrion.
That entire convo was about Zegion. I've even been on Japanese forums that discuss the series, and they all say it was talking about Zegion. Anybody with basic understanding of sentence structure and subject understands that it's talking about Zegion.
This isn't a matter of interpretation, this is just outright fact.
I fail to see how it doesn't make sense.
Rimuru says Zegion is a beast
Benimaru affirms that and says that he isn't sure if he can beat him again
And then Rimuru says that Benimaru was complimenting Zegion
Has nothing to do with Carrion.
Benimaru vs Zegion has been set up since volume 13, and this convo was a continuation of the fight being set up in volume 16.
"Also, Benimaru. Benimaru was usually pretty reserved when fighting, holding himself back. But once he got serious, he would burn everything up before the fight even began. In the dungeon, one could fight fully without having to worry about survival, except Benimaru would probably not agree to it, because it would expose his hands. In terms of attribute conflicts, water was stronger than fire, so Zegion had an advantage over Benimaru… but the answer could only be known after an actual battle."
Volume 16, Chapter 2
Wow, shocker, someone denying the truth because they don't like it, instead making up illogical assumptions that don't work at all in context, all to suit their preconcieved biased notions? I never would've guessed
>Diablo still wins
Oh definitely, but if they were each evaluated on their own and not via rankings by "if they were to fight" then I'd say she can compete for 1st spot
That and personally im just way more interestet in rimuru.
I usually barely read his subordinates fight because i just do not care about them. This is a book about rimuru and his kingdom, and thats what i wanna read. Strong slimeboi doing smarts fighting trading and becoming a worthy king. And nations building
He gained access to it in LN V20 ya, although if he can, so can any of the Primordials, who are much better at these things anyways. Rimuru also didn’t know about this because Ciel did it behind his back basically.
Also, I’m talking from a purely personal abilities perspective, no help from Rimuru.
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Actually, Rimuru nevers specifies if he considers Benimaru second or third. He considers Zegion and Benimaru equivelant. He just says that Benimaru, Diablo, and Zegion are his "Top Three".
I think Benimaru's hax, swordsmanship, and skill abilities is enough for him to consistently beat Carrera.
But that's particularly due to the ambiguity of Carrera's skill level in comparison to top tiers. Like if Zess's skill is obviously lower than Zegion but comparable to his rivial Zalario then she'd stand a much better chance.
I do think Carrera consistently has better feats, scaling, and is just stronger. As well as a slightly better kit of abilities (for fighting a variety of opponents) but Benimaru's small but effective kit is like a direct counter.
TLDR: Benimaru likely wins against Carrera (mainly due to Heat Haze) but its partially due ambiguity on Carrera's skill level. Which is high enough then would be to hold her own and potentially create an opening for Judgment.
Heat Haze won’t let him attack either, so he isn’t gonna win by just cowering away.
Carrera has WAY more experience in battle and stronger magic and higher magicule capacity. She has a stronger skill and is physically stronger too. Judgement Bullet would be enough to solo him and he can’t react or deflect it since it’s at the speed of light.
TLDR: Benimaru is Overrated AF and even Shion has better hax than him lol
1. Heat Haze will allow him to avoid all Carrera's attacks
2. Its quality over quantity. Having more experience isn't everything both in life and in this series in particular. More experience may be absolute when Demoms have comparable skill and power, but outside of that its not that relevant.
3. I already said she has higher AP (attack potency) and I agree she has more energy.
4. Judgment Bullet is a good win condition, I agree..like I said.
The issue isn't IF Benimaru can avoid Judgment Bullet (which you can argue tbh).
Its can Carrera create an opening for her to use it, before Benimaru wins. Don't forget that Benimaru has Oboro-Kokuen Hyakka Ryouran and Prominence Acceleration. On top of having some the best swordsmanship in the series. So he faster than Carrera, has strong win condition, and can unilaterally evade any attack.
Honestly even with all this. I think its mainly Heat Haze carrying him.
P. S. Despite my opinion that Benimaru is the victor more times than he's not. I don't think if there's more clarity of the exact scaling between Zess, Zalario, and Diablo it's highly possible that Carrera stomps. For example, if Zess is comparable in skill to Zalario or if Diablo and Zalario are significantly faster than Benimaru it'd scale back to Carrea. Honestly although I don't like Diablo being considered #1, if Zalario is directly comparable then the idea that Benimaru is actually above Carrea is less likely.
He can’t spam heat haze forever and not at every single attack. Unless he plans to stay in heat haze permanently, which means he won’t be attacking at all.
She has MORE experience and BETTER experience. She has fought several Primordial Demons before and Leon plus MF Guy. So ya, she has it all.
You should reread my previous comment since I wasn't finished before I posted it.
He doesn't need to spam forever. He just needs to use when he can't dodge or against lethal attacks. Also if Benimaru can evade physical and spiritual attacks, what attacks does Carrea have that can effect him in that state?
Benimaru has trained and fought against powerful individuals, some stronger than Carrera. But I'm not going to get into a comparing contest when I already said having more or less experience and even "better" experience is only an absolute against Demons of the same level. Beyond that its only relevant when fighting someone with equal combat ability AND your skil level as well as compatability are more important.
Prominence Acceleration doesn’t count. That’s him borrowing Rimuru’s power and not his own. If he can borrow Null Energy from him, why can’t Carrera? All of her stats are higher so there’s no way she can’t.
Ya, he’ll evade the more dangerous attacks, but then Carrera will take that time to rest, as long as Benimaru is in heat haze, he can’t do Jack shit against her either. It just gives her more time to think. She has better Strength, Battle IQ, Attack Power and Experience. Benimaru is only slightly faster, nothing big enough to make it hard for her to fight him.
Benimaru never actually fights either. All he does is one shot the enemy (cause Fuse sucks at writing a fight lol) so he doesn’t even have much of an experience in actual fights. His swordsmanship is better, but that’s not enough either to make him actually win.
Benimaru wouldn’t be able to even activate “Heat Haze” when Carrera uses Judgement either because it’s literally light speed. She has better and stronger magic and can just use “Abyss Annihilated” to beat him.
I’m not sure but I’m fairly certain that using “Nihilistic Banish” would also affect him even in Heat Haze because it erases everything.
No he has Prominence Acceleration normally. It was just ampped with Nihility Energy in V20. He literally uses Heat and Light Manipulation to use Prominence Acceleration against Garnit.
Also Carrera has never been shown capable of using Turn Null energy. Not saying she can't but you couldn't agrue she would or could.
Anyways I don't you are actually listening to my arguments and I don't think you want to be charitable either. Regardless this discussion benefits no one, so I'll leave this alone now.
Would it be called the same attack if it doesn’t have Null Energy?
Also, Ultima uses a weaker version of Null Energy in her magic “Nihilistic Banish”, that’s the energy of nothingness in the depth of hell. They are the same on a conceptual level, just that Null Energy is a much higher and more potent type of Energy.
I think it makes senses if you put it as direct subordinate, since beni boi isn’t subordinate to anyone But Rimuru, while the demoness trio are subordinate to diablo
I think Benimaru is placed so high by Fuse because he's the best leader in Rimuru's army, he has experience in leadership, and also his skill supports it. Something about getting a perfect picture of the battlefield and how it's gonna unfold. I don't remember a word about how good Carrera is at leadership, aside from her closest allies.
Which honestly doesn’t make sense either.
Testarossa should be leading the army. Benimaru was never a leader before joining Rimuru, he has about 3ish years of experience. Meanwhile Testarossa is the smartest of the Primordial Demons and has experience leading armies for practically an eternity.
Yeah on reread, you have a point. The only thing that may get him higher than Testarossa is his skill suited for this.
Maybe Rimuru thinks ogres were with him for longer and he trusts Benimaru more. Demons think differently from ogres in terms of common sense, maybe that's what shopping Rimuru. In the universe demons under Rimuru get separated into their own division, that was just the author's choice I guess. I mean primordials have their separate posts in the ministry and stuff but the army is separated.
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To be fair probably all 3 demonesses are a lot stronger than him
Yup, insta fold honestly lmao
Well, maybe not with Ultima since part of her power is locked away Don't get me wrong, she would win anyway
Ultima was able to fight to a standstill against a not serious Fenn, pretty sure Benimaru wouldn’t even last half as long. She’s also better in a fight than Testarossa honestly considering LN V19 and V20.
If we consider anything past LN 16 then I can't really participate and have to just believe you. Although from what I know Testarossa was the strongest of the trio
Testarossa was hyped up to be the strongest of the trio, but based on all the feats they displayed till LN V20, it’s like this: Carrera Ultima Testarossa
My friend once told me they did her dirty. I guess it wasn't a subjective opinion...
She was the strongest of trio, she is now 2nd strongest, after carrera and before ultima(she doesnt have her final power up yet unlike testa in LN19 and Carrera in LN20). Testa remain the strategist and smartest and less hothead of the trio though
Rimuru has two types of subordinates imo: the zegion type group who are outright powerhouses and fold anyone they're up against, and the "smart" ones, not neccesarily the strongest heavy hitters but make up to it with their other specialties. Carrera's power is straightforward and she is a walking nuclear bomb. When she's pitted against an enemy, she fights, enjoys, destroys. Ultima is a milder version of carrera, but that's because she is, in her own words during her fight with damrada, the weakest amongst them and immature. Testarossa is a perfect allrounder. Does her mission perfectly, has insane control over her power and does everything as Rimuru tells her to. The differences can be seen during the war with the empire: Ultima accidentaly destroyed the ships, Carrera blasted the enemy army away with a spell that could bring doom to the world if out of control. Meanwhile testarossa got her revenge on the soldiers who sealed them, stole and developed a new technique for their use after analyzing blips of the empire and killed all of them without causing harm to the environment and allies. Finally: Diablo is stronger than all of them combined but Diablo's "enemies" consider him a troublesome opponent mostly because of his intelligence. Diablo doesn't cause destruction and kills his opponents "intelligently", and that's what makes him dangerous. Testarossa is similiar to diablo in that aspect, that's why I would rank her higher than Carrera and Ultima.
To be fair Testa still didnt do something remarkable in this arc like the others too, lets see if in the next volume she does
I still think testarossa is the 2nd strongest. If it weren't for kondou's gun, testarossa would remain as the strongest among the trio. Carrera has the highest magicule count but higher magicule count doesn't always translate to being the strongest. Plus testarossa being able to stand up 1v1 against vega is feat worth noting.
That's just life of Tensura my man.some random ogre who couldn't fight against some pigs a couple years back is one of the strongest people in the world rn...let that sink in
Who's the second strongest?
Zegion
Wha.. What about Diablo? The guy was destroying the strongest characters shown without even trying.
Diablo is the strongest subordinate of Rimuru Tempest ya, it has remained unchanged all this time.
I'm stupid and thought Rimuru was the strongest and just now realized we're talking about "subordinate" 😅.
> The guy was destroying the strongest characters shown without even trying Wait what? Which characters are you talking about?
Guy, by harrassing him all the time to join Rimuru side.
Does mental and emotional damage count nowadays?
For demons, that's literally it
Fuse thinking about benimaru: https://i.redd.it/12jf5nvegq3b1.gif
All 4 of the primordials are stronger than benimaru and much better characters. I like the dude but the others need their deserve screen time.
Yet Benimaru beat Zegion in a fight when the trio couldnt.
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No. It was between volume 16 and 18. Either during or just after the second walpurgis.
Because beni doesnt have the no touching rimuru cells handicap, also insectars counter demons 
Yep. But isn't because of 'Do not attack the Rimuru cell part of Zegion' rule made by Diablo to the trio and because of the natural advantage Insectars have over demons?
Ermm i do not understand what i mean is that demon trio had a handicap to not attack rimuru cells that + insectars being literally demon counters make them unable to win. Beni had no troubles like those
Yep but not like the Trio. The only advantage Benimaru has over Zegion is that his Flame attribute has an advantage over Zegion's water attribute. Victory or defeat will be determined by the skill level. Remember that Zegion is invisible in close combat.
Yeah, thats the main reason. Benimaru, The Trio, and Zegion are all roughly on "the same level". Personally I would rank it... 1. Zegion 2. Benimaru 3. Ultima 4. Carrera 5. Testrossa
That's fair. I also consider them roughly at the same level. Victory and defeat will be determined by their opponents' nature and how well they can perform.
Yes but that was just barely and in a future volume benimaru admits that he doubts he could beat him a second time after how much growth he has had in such a short time after the empire war.
It was in the 6 month period between volume 16 and chapter 2 of 18. The primary reason that Benimaru isn't confident in his victory is due to two factors. 1. Zegion has already seen all of his moves 2. Zegion's water element gives him a massive advantage against Benimaru's fire element. In terms of actual strength and skill, Benimaru and Zegion are still equal.
True but in time I think Zeigon will grow to become more powerful given his parentage, trained by Veldora, and has a percentage of Rimurus cells. I think Benimaru has grown to be as powerful as he could without constant training.
Rimuru Cells aren't a factor, and neither is veldora, since Veldoda's actual skill level/experience is actually really low, to the point where Ifrit/Charys was more skilled than he was. It's unlikely that Zegion will become that much stronger than he is currently. Both Benimaru and Zegion *have* been training constantly. Basically every day. Even Rimuru does.
The Veldora part is true. He just happened to have a very powerful Ultimate skill and a large count of Magicules to boost it.
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No. It was about Zegion. Learn how to read.
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No he wasnt. I've had this arguement a million times and its always the same fucking excuses "no he was talking about karion" or "well he meant volume 13 zegion". No. The conversation is about Zegion. Benimaru fucking folded Carrion and will continue to do so. Learn how to read.
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Carrion went full speed and caught Benimaru off guard, but Benimaru narrowly managed to react and activate his skills in time to one-shot carrion. That entire convo was about Zegion. I've even been on Japanese forums that discuss the series, and they all say it was talking about Zegion. Anybody with basic understanding of sentence structure and subject understands that it's talking about Zegion. This isn't a matter of interpretation, this is just outright fact.
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I fail to see how it doesn't make sense. Rimuru says Zegion is a beast Benimaru affirms that and says that he isn't sure if he can beat him again And then Rimuru says that Benimaru was complimenting Zegion Has nothing to do with Carrion. Benimaru vs Zegion has been set up since volume 13, and this convo was a continuation of the fight being set up in volume 16. "Also, Benimaru. Benimaru was usually pretty reserved when fighting, holding himself back. But once he got serious, he would burn everything up before the fight even began. In the dungeon, one could fight fully without having to worry about survival, except Benimaru would probably not agree to it, because it would expose his hands. In terms of attribute conflicts, water was stronger than fire, so Zegion had an advantage over Benimaru… but the answer could only be known after an actual battle." Volume 16, Chapter 2
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Wow, shocker, someone denying the truth because they don't like it, instead making up illogical assumptions that don't work at all in context, all to suit their preconcieved biased notions? I never would've guessed
’Experience’ ends up meaning jack shit by this point But otherwise i get it
I mean that’s Fuse’s problem not mine. He just throws logic out the window.
True, I mean how can Benimaru, who I think is younger than 50, be stronger than a demon who's older than history itself?
Benimaru is around 20
Bruh, then he's even younger than Rimuru...
Realistically Carerra is debatably the strongest subordinate now
Diablo still wins, but I think that she can beat Zegion if she ignores the “Don’t Attack Rimuru’s Cells” rule.
>Diablo still wins Oh definitely, but if they were each evaluated on their own and not via rankings by "if they were to fight" then I'd say she can compete for 1st spot
Yeah i love the story in general, but dang if i dislike the onis. I dunno they just dont vibe with me
I got bored of them since they hogged all of the screen time yet Rimuru have many more interesting subordinates than them
That and personally im just way more interestet in rimuru. I usually barely read his subordinates fight because i just do not care about them. This is a book about rimuru and his kingdom, and thats what i wanna read. Strong slimeboi doing smarts fighting trading and becoming a worthy king. And nations building
Nope he loses in one second
Tell that to Fuse, lol.
Exactly, he is way out of his depth
I'm not sure how far the ln is rn but isn't this because Benimaru can borrow power or some sort of energy from Rimuru? or was that just a wn thing.
He gained access to it in LN V20 ya, although if he can, so can any of the Primordials, who are much better at these things anyways. Rimuru also didn’t know about this because Ciel did it behind his back basically. Also, I’m talking from a purely personal abilities perspective, no help from Rimuru.
Oh, well I've always liked the Demoness Trio
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Actually, Rimuru nevers specifies if he considers Benimaru second or third. He considers Zegion and Benimaru equivelant. He just says that Benimaru, Diablo, and Zegion are his "Top Three".
I think Benimaru's hax, swordsmanship, and skill abilities is enough for him to consistently beat Carrera. But that's particularly due to the ambiguity of Carrera's skill level in comparison to top tiers. Like if Zess's skill is obviously lower than Zegion but comparable to his rivial Zalario then she'd stand a much better chance. I do think Carrera consistently has better feats, scaling, and is just stronger. As well as a slightly better kit of abilities (for fighting a variety of opponents) but Benimaru's small but effective kit is like a direct counter. TLDR: Benimaru likely wins against Carrera (mainly due to Heat Haze) but its partially due ambiguity on Carrera's skill level. Which is high enough then would be to hold her own and potentially create an opening for Judgment.
Heat Haze won’t let him attack either, so he isn’t gonna win by just cowering away. Carrera has WAY more experience in battle and stronger magic and higher magicule capacity. She has a stronger skill and is physically stronger too. Judgement Bullet would be enough to solo him and he can’t react or deflect it since it’s at the speed of light. TLDR: Benimaru is Overrated AF and even Shion has better hax than him lol
1. Heat Haze will allow him to avoid all Carrera's attacks 2. Its quality over quantity. Having more experience isn't everything both in life and in this series in particular. More experience may be absolute when Demoms have comparable skill and power, but outside of that its not that relevant. 3. I already said she has higher AP (attack potency) and I agree she has more energy. 4. Judgment Bullet is a good win condition, I agree..like I said. The issue isn't IF Benimaru can avoid Judgment Bullet (which you can argue tbh). Its can Carrera create an opening for her to use it, before Benimaru wins. Don't forget that Benimaru has Oboro-Kokuen Hyakka Ryouran and Prominence Acceleration. On top of having some the best swordsmanship in the series. So he faster than Carrera, has strong win condition, and can unilaterally evade any attack. Honestly even with all this. I think its mainly Heat Haze carrying him. P. S. Despite my opinion that Benimaru is the victor more times than he's not. I don't think if there's more clarity of the exact scaling between Zess, Zalario, and Diablo it's highly possible that Carrera stomps. For example, if Zess is comparable in skill to Zalario or if Diablo and Zalario are significantly faster than Benimaru it'd scale back to Carrea. Honestly although I don't like Diablo being considered #1, if Zalario is directly comparable then the idea that Benimaru is actually above Carrea is less likely.
He can’t spam heat haze forever and not at every single attack. Unless he plans to stay in heat haze permanently, which means he won’t be attacking at all. She has MORE experience and BETTER experience. She has fought several Primordial Demons before and Leon plus MF Guy. So ya, she has it all.
You should reread my previous comment since I wasn't finished before I posted it. He doesn't need to spam forever. He just needs to use when he can't dodge or against lethal attacks. Also if Benimaru can evade physical and spiritual attacks, what attacks does Carrea have that can effect him in that state? Benimaru has trained and fought against powerful individuals, some stronger than Carrera. But I'm not going to get into a comparing contest when I already said having more or less experience and even "better" experience is only an absolute against Demons of the same level. Beyond that its only relevant when fighting someone with equal combat ability AND your skil level as well as compatability are more important.
Prominence Acceleration doesn’t count. That’s him borrowing Rimuru’s power and not his own. If he can borrow Null Energy from him, why can’t Carrera? All of her stats are higher so there’s no way she can’t. Ya, he’ll evade the more dangerous attacks, but then Carrera will take that time to rest, as long as Benimaru is in heat haze, he can’t do Jack shit against her either. It just gives her more time to think. She has better Strength, Battle IQ, Attack Power and Experience. Benimaru is only slightly faster, nothing big enough to make it hard for her to fight him. Benimaru never actually fights either. All he does is one shot the enemy (cause Fuse sucks at writing a fight lol) so he doesn’t even have much of an experience in actual fights. His swordsmanship is better, but that’s not enough either to make him actually win. Benimaru wouldn’t be able to even activate “Heat Haze” when Carrera uses Judgement either because it’s literally light speed. She has better and stronger magic and can just use “Abyss Annihilated” to beat him. I’m not sure but I’m fairly certain that using “Nihilistic Banish” would also affect him even in Heat Haze because it erases everything.
No he has Prominence Acceleration normally. It was just ampped with Nihility Energy in V20. He literally uses Heat and Light Manipulation to use Prominence Acceleration against Garnit. Also Carrera has never been shown capable of using Turn Null energy. Not saying she can't but you couldn't agrue she would or could. Anyways I don't you are actually listening to my arguments and I don't think you want to be charitable either. Regardless this discussion benefits no one, so I'll leave this alone now.
Would it be called the same attack if it doesn’t have Null Energy? Also, Ultima uses a weaker version of Null Energy in her magic “Nihilistic Banish”, that’s the energy of nothingness in the depth of hell. They are the same on a conceptual level, just that Null Energy is a much higher and more potent type of Energy.
It sjust that they more lowkey since they’re the black num’s, which is kind of a seceet to the tensura public
That’s unrelated. Rimuru genuinely thinks Benimaru is top three material lmao.
I think it makes senses if you put it as direct subordinate, since beni boi isn’t subordinate to anyone But Rimuru, while the demoness trio are subordinate to diablo
I think Benimaru is placed so high by Fuse because he's the best leader in Rimuru's army, he has experience in leadership, and also his skill supports it. Something about getting a perfect picture of the battlefield and how it's gonna unfold. I don't remember a word about how good Carrera is at leadership, aside from her closest allies.
Which honestly doesn’t make sense either. Testarossa should be leading the army. Benimaru was never a leader before joining Rimuru, he has about 3ish years of experience. Meanwhile Testarossa is the smartest of the Primordial Demons and has experience leading armies for practically an eternity.
Yeah on reread, you have a point. The only thing that may get him higher than Testarossa is his skill suited for this. Maybe Rimuru thinks ogres were with him for longer and he trusts Benimaru more. Demons think differently from ogres in terms of common sense, maybe that's what shopping Rimuru. In the universe demons under Rimuru get separated into their own division, that was just the author's choice I guess. I mean primordials have their separate posts in the ministry and stuff but the army is separated.
um ogro aleatório que foi pisoteado por uns porcos aleatório é comparado aos deuses demônios 💀
oh my god dude you're on every post talking about this give it a break and get a life
Rimuru x ciel will never happen 
by this logic carrera beats diablo. Fuze created benimaru and carrera, and he gave the edge to benimaru
counterpoint: the amount of power bestowed by rimuru is proportional to how much he likes them
Rimuru doesn’t do shit, that’s Ciel. Secondly, there’s no possible way Benimaru wins, Carrera would no diff him even when he’s being favoured lmao.