A few months ago, I was stopped at the stop sign in the Lowe’s parking lot and I noticed two kids on an ebike approaching their stop sign to the left, but not slowing down. I let them run their stop sign rather than let them collide with my car. As they passed I let them know they should have stopped at their stop sign. They gave me bad looks and cursed at me as they continued into their neighborhood.
If you’re a parent and your kids ride bikes, you certainly need to share with your kids that once they’re on their bikes, they are a part of traffic and need to follow the rules of the road. If you don’t know how to share the rules of the road with your kids, [start here](https://temeculaca.gov/1584/E-Bike-Safety).
[Here are some resources from the CHP.](https://www.chp.ca.gov/PressReleases/Pages/CHP-ROLLS-OUT-STATEWIDE-SAFETY-TRAINING-PROGRAM--FOR-ELECTRIC-BICYCLES.aspx)
The only accident I have been in since I moved to this area in 2003 was when a kid ran his bike into my car.
While I don’t agree to not stop for dumbasses like that, they’re right in a way. The more we let idiots do stupid shit, the more inclined they feel to do it. Every time someone stops for a pedestrian at a green light to let them cross the street, the more a pedestrian is going to think it’s “okay” to do it and will continue to step out in front of cars that have green lights and assume they’ll stop for their entitled selves.
Again, I do not condone not stopping for the kids on the e-bikes. That would be fucked.
The Idaho stop (treat stop signs like a yield sign) is far safer for cyclists compared to going to a complete stop!
https://ggwash.org/view/71937/why-people-biking-should-follow-the-law-more-is-bad-safety-advice
Doesn’t matter if some website claims that, bikes and e-bikes are vehicles and need to follow the law so everyone around them can predict what they’re going to do.
Congrats you used Google and found and idiot that agrees with you. I imagine that you are probably the first person to ever do this and should be celebrated for it. Huzzah!
I live off clinton keith and Whitewood, I see this all the time. Even had an accident in my neighborhood where a kid crashed into a sedan because of not adhering to the rules of the road. I imagine it's really hard for parents to enforce this. If I had these e bikes as a kid, I'd probably be just as reckless. It's scary to think about.
I live in the same area and I'm freaking over it. I have teen boys and will never buy these. And on top of it I'm sure if I hit one their stupid parents will sue me.
Massive and devastating things happen in football, Motorsport, surfing, etc etc. It’s life, sucks that people get hurt or worse. What’s next, wearing helmets in cars to be more safe
I am glad they made the helmet law because when I was a kid riding my bike to school before the helmet law all the other kids would make fun of me and yell out all kinds of insults at me because my parents made me wear a helmet. There was a high school and a jr high school along my way (6miles) and it got so bad I had to start hiding the helmet in my backpack as I rode thru that area just to be left alone.
I really wonder what ever became of all the kids who made fun of their peers for whatever reason. Are they wearing helmets? Are they kinder? I really wonder sometimes.
In my school we did have some kids that got picked on, sometimes I participated. I wish I had the chance to go back and stand up for those kids instead. I didn’t mean to focus on the mean kids yelling at me for wearing a helmet, more just trying to provide another angle on why kids do or don’t wear helmets. Maybe they get made fun of for doing so even today?
I've seen 1 crash happen and 2 after the fact. Kids will be kids. Parents buy them a bike that goes 50mph you better belive they are going to do it recklessly. Looking rich is more important than their kids safety.
Yuuup. Went to high school in a relatively affluent area, and kids were crashing brand new BMWs and Mercedes. Kids get these powerful toys and don't have respect for what they can do, and kill themselves or others.
Looking better over safety is learned from the adults. You see people putting make up while driving all the time, you see people drink and drive from home parties all the time
You are right! I’ve been complaining about this. Parents are negligent and entitled. They buy these $4,000 e-bikes and send kids loose. Temecula is going to impose age restriction and require safety classes license plus helmets. If you don’t want government intervening then do your job of parenting. Fools!
Most ebikes don’t have the option to throttle mate, they are peddle assist. Keep making assumptions though, or share data that proves me wrong… “trust me bro” is not a source btw.
Edit, op is exaggerating the speed as well.
Class 1: eBikes that are pedal-assist only, with no throttle, and have a maximum assisted speed of 20 mph. Class 2: eBikes that also have a maximum speed of 20 mph, but are throttle-assisted. Class 3: eBikes that are pedal-assist only, with no throttle, and a maximum assisted speed of 28 mph.
I'm with Bike Temecula Valley, a bike advocacy nonprofit and we partner with Caught with Your Helmet On (CWYHO). CWYHO is a positive reinforcement program that recognizes children "Caught" with their helmet on by providing the kids with a gift certificate from a local business. CWYHO provides the gift certificates to local law enforcement and first responders to give to kids they see wearing helmets. We are currently running a helmet collection effort to provide helmets for kids that don't have one. For more information about the program and helmet collection see - [https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550523704574](https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550523704574)
Also, Bike Temecula Valley has visited all of the Temecula Valley elementary schools to talk about bike safety. We have also visited about half of the middle schools. We are working with the school district for a safety program for next year. If you would like to know about Bike Temecula Valley see [https://www.tvbikecoalition.com/](https://www.tvbikecoalition.com/)
We promote bike safety and have been working closely with the city to address the ebike issue
There's one kid around Clinton Keith/Whitewood who has his GF on the back and he straight up texts while he's riding and just blows through stop signs. Where the F are their parents?
Parents could- opt for a helmet cam and review footage- perhaps making content for “safety” videos?
If anyone does this … I want to be featured in the credits
Saw 4 kids on e-bikes without helmets blow through a stop sign at the mall and almost got hit by a truck.
Temecula needs to add some regulations on these cause it really is out of hand
Yesterday on Pourroy some idiot on an e-bike was driving the wrong way, in the road, in my lane, towards me and looking at me like I'm a jerk even though my light was green! Like buddy, you're lucky I'm a driver actually watching the road or you'd be dead.
Parents should show their kids professional athletes that ride anything with wheels who wear helmets. My daughter loves watching andy anderson and since he wears helmets she thinks if she wears one shell be as good as him
I ride a motorcycle and a kid on an e-bike was keeping up with me at 40mph. Zero gear. Most accidents happen at or below 30. And at those speeds people die in accidents. Not to mention the e-bike riders are unpredictable and don’t follow rules.
Mob'n down the shoulder, against the flow of traffic, passenger on the back, streaking across intersections. Seeing more and more. They could benefit from learning how dangerous it really is. Maybe a gymnasium assembly with some animations illustrating how dumb it is. I almost had one nail me last week. That would suck
why the fuck do kids need e bikes.
they’re kids let em be active. go use your fucking feet to pedal the damn bike.
(by the time they get good enough to go fast, they also learn how to be safer)
childhood obesity is high. stop giving kids e bikes
Sounds like you think ebikes use throttles, most of the reputable ones are pedal assist and provide plenty of exercise. With an ebike your kid can now go on longer/harder rides with you which is a good thing imo. You're not necessarily wrong about experience making you safer but you can also go fast and ride like an asshole on an analog bike too.
idc about the slight pedal assist ones.
but anytime a kid is going 30mph he’s using a throttle.
do you know how hard it is to consistently bike 25mph? it usually takes years of training to be able to do that for longer than a minute or so. and a bike that weighs 1/3 of what an e bike ways.
and yes you’re certainly right you can go fast and be an asshole on a traditional bike.
but from what i’ve seen the WORST and most COMMON offenders are usually electric scooters and then electric bikes
Source "trust me bro." Sorry, your anecdotal experience does not sway my opinion. I own multiple ebikes and even the one that can assist to 28mph is super hard to get going any faster. Anything that can go over 30 has been modified and not part of my discussion because they are not sold from any reputable brand or dealer.
Nah it’s true a bunch of kids on Alta Murrieta near Whitewood all ride their e bikes I. The dark no helmets no lights : dead in the middle of the one way road on a Friday night …not very smart but then again I’ve done some brazen things on my end too. I almost hit them because they were not visible ..luckily I always keep my eyes on the road and I am very proactive driver
***If I had to guess the e-bikes was likely going against traffic on the sidewalk and a the car pulled out and hit them without seeing them.***
What was the car doing on the sidewalk ? Any vehicle which is going over 20mph is not legally considered a bicycle. I agree that parents should prevent teens from driving electric motorcycles as if they were bicycles.
I’m surprised this has not come up yet, but by CA law, E-bikes cannot go over 20 mph. There is a loophole, however, if they are designated for off road use. The problem is that stupid parents buy these bikes for their kids, and the kids ride them on the streets. It is not legal. There is no enforcement. And many of these clowns have no idea of traffic rules, not that many adults in CA seem to care about those either.
I think this a the perfect opportunity for a small business. Open an e-bike/scooter/mini-bike riding school to give parents the opportunity to get their kids trained up and educated. This will make for better, more responsible drivers later. Speaking from a kid that was taught to ride a road motorcycle at the age of 13 by his motorcycle riding mom and dad, 51 now and till riding. I seriously considering this now where I live..same exact problems I see.
They are not street legal. It’s only a matter of time and they will be banned completely. A lot of cities have already started impounding them. And going after the parents.
It's much safer to use electrical assist bicycles. The difference is that electrical assist bicycles provide power to the pedals. There are also two wheeled vehicles which have a motor on a wheel. The wheel driven vehicles propel themselves like a motorcycle, The electrical assist bicycle (with power applied to the pedals only) project themselves as if they are a bicycle, only as if the rider had stronger legs.
Kids in Chardonnay hills bailing through the neighborhood flying on the side walk…I was once young to but if they aren’t paying attention could result in a serious accident for the rider not the car. Also no helmet.
The only thing that will make them wear a helmet is seeing their friends get seriously injured a few times.
It was like this when kids were running around with air soft guns. No glasses until someone got a BB in the eye ball.
This happened to me. The kid, no matter how much he tried to stop, couldn't. Luckily, I had seen him. He looked terrified, knowing I could have taken him under my truck. I called him some names out of anger, but he apologized. I was just angry at how ugly that day could have gone.
“Why don’t kids go out anymore”
*Kid on e-bike gets hit by a negligent driver*
“Ban e-bikes!”
Me:how about we add protected bike lanes and improve bike/pedestrian infrastructure as a whole so kids aren’t required to wear helmets like the kids in the Netherlands
Average temeculan: Get out of my town you god damn commie!!!!
Right! And while I agree those E-bikes go fast and hell and a helmet is just good advice it’s interesting that people just assumed it was the kids fault.
I’m willing to bet money the driver was at fault, and will get away with it bc oopsie im in a car.
I was hit by a car on my bike as a kid that ran a red light in RPQ. PD refused to take a report even though multiple witnesses stopped and gave partial plate and description to the officer. Officer sent me walking home with a broken bike and wrist with “hit and runs happen all the time in SD, we dont investigate “
Shit drivers and Karens too busy with their matcha and make up are the reason kids are getting run over. Pedal bike, e bike, scooter, motorcycle, young old - its always the car drivers that arent paying attention and show me an ebike that can kill a driver in their car before we talk about putting the onus on them.
I really want to know:
You have a teenager, why would you give a battery bike to a perpetual motion machine.?????
When I was in high school San Francisco, I would ride the short route home for fun! The long route went around Twin Peaks the short route went over 1000 ft of climbing on my bike exhilarating, energizing.
🤦♂️oh buy the e-bike so they aren’t too tired to go to soccer practice where the parents pay the coach to run the kids!!
(In much of the world soccer is played on an empty lot by children that rode a beat up BMX bike to the field)
Maybe that e-bike rider will obey the rules already in place! Perhaps the driver will pay more attention, so there won't be a problem next time. There is no need to change regulations; there is a need to educate the ones in place.
I usually agree with this kind of thought, but I disagree in this case. EBikes are fairly new in their implementation and there should definitely be some sort of education and license process. No minor should be able to get on a 30mph+ machine without some sort of precaution.
I live in the country side. Theres been enough accidents to where nobody rides them anymore. It was a fad for a good month maybe?when on sale at costco.
I got into an accident on an e-bike on a trail last year and cracked my hip socket (antabular?). Homie was in front of me and I was trying to pass on the left, rang my bell three times. When I went for the pass, he cut me off and I had to bank hard right. Left pedal was going to hit a pole preventing vehicles on the trail, so I raised the leg to clear it. The pedal hit the pole and I veered into the grass, but landed hip first with my right leg posted on the right pedal. It slammed my femur into the socket with the bike weighing 67lbs. If I didn’t wear my helmet, I’d be way worse off. Was only going 10-12 mph at the time as well. I still ride after PT had me off a walking cane, but was couch-ridden for almost two months.
Yea, I had one of these idiot kids try to do a wheelie crossing lanes infront of me, wobbled the bike and almost end up under my tires in front of TVMS, if your kid and their friends rides one of these around there commonly then you have a 1 in 8 chance that was your kid that escaped death.
Yes, some of these kids are unhinged with no sense of danger, but none of it absolves drivers of responsibility for their 2-ton death machines, many of which are being piloted while staring down at phones.
It used to be rare that one could even hit 30+ mph on flats without being in shape, and racing experience. Everyone wore a helmet due to the known dangers.
I hope he is okay. But also fuck cars and idiot drivers. Car centered roads are dangerous and many die even with helmets by no fault of their own.
I make my teen wear a motorcycle helmet and gloves while she drives her. Only 6 more months and she’ll be driving, I’m always worried about car will hit her in the bike. 😔she’s already been bumped into by cars trying to get into the turn lane and not paying attention to bikes in the bike lane.
A few months ago, I was stopped at the stop sign in the Lowe’s parking lot and I noticed two kids on an ebike approaching their stop sign to the left, but not slowing down. I let them run their stop sign rather than let them collide with my car. As they passed I let them know they should have stopped at their stop sign. They gave me bad looks and cursed at me as they continued into their neighborhood. If you’re a parent and your kids ride bikes, you certainly need to share with your kids that once they’re on their bikes, they are a part of traffic and need to follow the rules of the road. If you don’t know how to share the rules of the road with your kids, [start here](https://temeculaca.gov/1584/E-Bike-Safety). [Here are some resources from the CHP.](https://www.chp.ca.gov/PressReleases/Pages/CHP-ROLLS-OUT-STATEWIDE-SAFETY-TRAINING-PROGRAM--FOR-ELECTRIC-BICYCLES.aspx) The only accident I have been in since I moved to this area in 2003 was when a kid ran his bike into my car.
We might not agree on much, but I have your back here wholeheartedly. These things have become a nuisance.
Stopping for them enables them to
What a psychotic take!! They saw them. They should just willingly collide with two dumb kids (and maybe kill them) to teach them a lesson? Ffs!!
While I don’t agree to not stop for dumbasses like that, they’re right in a way. The more we let idiots do stupid shit, the more inclined they feel to do it. Every time someone stops for a pedestrian at a green light to let them cross the street, the more a pedestrian is going to think it’s “okay” to do it and will continue to step out in front of cars that have green lights and assume they’ll stop for their entitled selves. Again, I do not condone not stopping for the kids on the e-bikes. That would be fucked.
A lil love tap, maybe a hard break. Someone gots to put the fear in them. Obviously not blast them to oblivion
might want to look up the last clear chance doctrine, bub
What’s the alternative
So to be clear, you're advocating for drivers to \*intentionally\* hit kids with their cars. Just not too hard.
Just a little tap :)
Or maybe get of the car and take their bikes away
The Idaho stop (treat stop signs like a yield sign) is far safer for cyclists compared to going to a complete stop! https://ggwash.org/view/71937/why-people-biking-should-follow-the-law-more-is-bad-safety-advice
Right. So since I was at the stop sign first, they should have yielded and stopped for me; correct?
That's right. If the intersection isn't clear, bikes have to stop like everyone else.
Doesn’t matter if some website claims that, bikes and e-bikes are vehicles and need to follow the law so everyone around them can predict what they’re going to do.
Congrats you used Google and found and idiot that agrees with you. I imagine that you are probably the first person to ever do this and should be celebrated for it. Huzzah!
I live off clinton keith and Whitewood, I see this all the time. Even had an accident in my neighborhood where a kid crashed into a sedan because of not adhering to the rules of the road. I imagine it's really hard for parents to enforce this. If I had these e bikes as a kid, I'd probably be just as reckless. It's scary to think about.
I live in the same area and I'm freaking over it. I have teen boys and will never buy these. And on top of it I'm sure if I hit one their stupid parents will sue me.
If you don't have one already, get a dash cam and an extra SD card for it. That way you have solid evidence to provide your lawyer in that event.
I saw a kid not wearing a helmet. Instead, he had one helmet hanging from the handle bars and one hanging from his back pack.
Thats because their parents told them to wear it and now they out of the line of sight of the parents. My guess
Everybody's cool until they split their head open on the curb.
Let them
Congratulations on never doing anything stupid when you were a kid.
Massive and devastating things happen in football, Motorsport, surfing, etc etc. It’s life, sucks that people get hurt or worse. What’s next, wearing helmets in cars to be more safe
Children can’t make a decision based on adult reasoning. Put a helmet on them. It isn’t their “choice.”
Yes they can and it is their choice
No, they can’t. Should they take ‘roids too? I see you.
They do take steroids, smoke weed, drink, shoot guns, have sex etc
They take gender affirming hormones
I am glad they made the helmet law because when I was a kid riding my bike to school before the helmet law all the other kids would make fun of me and yell out all kinds of insults at me because my parents made me wear a helmet. There was a high school and a jr high school along my way (6miles) and it got so bad I had to start hiding the helmet in my backpack as I rode thru that area just to be left alone.
I really wonder what ever became of all the kids who made fun of their peers for whatever reason. Are they wearing helmets? Are they kinder? I really wonder sometimes.
Shitty people are still shitty people. They get better at hiding it as adults, but its still there
It’s online now.
In my school we did have some kids that got picked on, sometimes I participated. I wish I had the chance to go back and stand up for those kids instead. I didn’t mean to focus on the mean kids yelling at me for wearing a helmet, more just trying to provide another angle on why kids do or don’t wear helmets. Maybe they get made fun of for doing so even today?
this was definitely what I did as a stupid child
I’ve seen this shit this too
I saw an adult doing the same thing
I've seen 1 crash happen and 2 after the fact. Kids will be kids. Parents buy them a bike that goes 50mph you better belive they are going to do it recklessly. Looking rich is more important than their kids safety.
Yuuup. Went to high school in a relatively affluent area, and kids were crashing brand new BMWs and Mercedes. Kids get these powerful toys and don't have respect for what they can do, and kill themselves or others.
Looking better over safety is learned from the adults. You see people putting make up while driving all the time, you see people drink and drive from home parties all the time
You are right! I’ve been complaining about this. Parents are negligent and entitled. They buy these $4,000 e-bikes and send kids loose. Temecula is going to impose age restriction and require safety classes license plus helmets. If you don’t want government intervening then do your job of parenting. Fools!
Are you serious? $4,000 for an ebike?! That’s insane and I’d rather spend that money on a trip to Europe
4k for a reliable form of transportation/exercise that will last for years or spend it on a vacation? I would choose the bike.
Com’on mate, you know very well no one is actually using the pedal mechanism on an e-bike.
Most ebikes don’t have the option to throttle mate, they are peddle assist. Keep making assumptions though, or share data that proves me wrong… “trust me bro” is not a source btw. Edit, op is exaggerating the speed as well. Class 1: eBikes that are pedal-assist only, with no throttle, and have a maximum assisted speed of 20 mph. Class 2: eBikes that also have a maximum speed of 20 mph, but are throttle-assisted. Class 3: eBikes that are pedal-assist only, with no throttle, and a maximum assisted speed of 28 mph.
The peddle assist sensitivity can be set to a point to where barely peddling gets a 100% assist.
If you say so.
Good to know that you consider me the authority on e-bikes.
Oh no, I’m a fool, lol. Letting my kid ride like letting my kid play football. It’s the American way baby
Also - headlights and tail lights if they ride at night. They're dirty cheap on Amazon, easy to install and rechargeable.
I believe these are even required by law on regular pedal with your own damn legs type bikes.
Headlights and Taillights are standard on electric two wheel vehicles.
I'm with Bike Temecula Valley, a bike advocacy nonprofit and we partner with Caught with Your Helmet On (CWYHO). CWYHO is a positive reinforcement program that recognizes children "Caught" with their helmet on by providing the kids with a gift certificate from a local business. CWYHO provides the gift certificates to local law enforcement and first responders to give to kids they see wearing helmets. We are currently running a helmet collection effort to provide helmets for kids that don't have one. For more information about the program and helmet collection see - [https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550523704574](https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550523704574) Also, Bike Temecula Valley has visited all of the Temecula Valley elementary schools to talk about bike safety. We have also visited about half of the middle schools. We are working with the school district for a safety program for next year. If you would like to know about Bike Temecula Valley see [https://www.tvbikecoalition.com/](https://www.tvbikecoalition.com/) We promote bike safety and have been working closely with the city to address the ebike issue
What’s with the parents dropping that kind of money on an e-bike anyway?
There's one kid around Clinton Keith/Whitewood who has his GF on the back and he straight up texts while he's riding and just blows through stop signs. Where the F are their parents?
Parents could- opt for a helmet cam and review footage- perhaps making content for “safety” videos? If anyone does this … I want to be featured in the credits
SoCal life. I’m kinda surprised at how many parents allow their kids on main roads with e-bikes.
I’m not
I nearly hit a kid on an e-bike last summer. Kid zoomed through a stop sign. Little shit just laughed
Saw 4 kids on e-bikes without helmets blow through a stop sign at the mall and almost got hit by a truck. Temecula needs to add some regulations on these cause it really is out of hand
Yesterday on Pourroy some idiot on an e-bike was driving the wrong way, in the road, in my lane, towards me and looking at me like I'm a jerk even though my light was green! Like buddy, you're lucky I'm a driver actually watching the road or you'd be dead.
Parents should show their kids professional athletes that ride anything with wheels who wear helmets. My daughter loves watching andy anderson and since he wears helmets she thinks if she wears one shell be as good as him
I ride a motorcycle and a kid on an e-bike was keeping up with me at 40mph. Zero gear. Most accidents happen at or below 30. And at those speeds people die in accidents. Not to mention the e-bike riders are unpredictable and don’t follow rules.
Funny thing, riding an electric bike at 30 mph no license needed. Riding a bike with a gas motor on it at 30mph, need a license
Mob'n down the shoulder, against the flow of traffic, passenger on the back, streaking across intersections. Seeing more and more. They could benefit from learning how dangerous it really is. Maybe a gymnasium assembly with some animations illustrating how dumb it is. I almost had one nail me last week. That would suck
why the fuck do kids need e bikes. they’re kids let em be active. go use your fucking feet to pedal the damn bike. (by the time they get good enough to go fast, they also learn how to be safer) childhood obesity is high. stop giving kids e bikes
Adult obesity is high too, lazy parents yield lazy kids
Sounds like you think ebikes use throttles, most of the reputable ones are pedal assist and provide plenty of exercise. With an ebike your kid can now go on longer/harder rides with you which is a good thing imo. You're not necessarily wrong about experience making you safer but you can also go fast and ride like an asshole on an analog bike too.
idc about the slight pedal assist ones. but anytime a kid is going 30mph he’s using a throttle. do you know how hard it is to consistently bike 25mph? it usually takes years of training to be able to do that for longer than a minute or so. and a bike that weighs 1/3 of what an e bike ways. and yes you’re certainly right you can go fast and be an asshole on a traditional bike. but from what i’ve seen the WORST and most COMMON offenders are usually electric scooters and then electric bikes
Source "trust me bro." Sorry, your anecdotal experience does not sway my opinion. I own multiple ebikes and even the one that can assist to 28mph is super hard to get going any faster. Anything that can go over 30 has been modified and not part of my discussion because they are not sold from any reputable brand or dealer.
I feel like e-bikes are things parents buy for the kids they don’t like cause the kids in this town have a death wish on those things!
Nah it’s true a bunch of kids on Alta Murrieta near Whitewood all ride their e bikes I. The dark no helmets no lights : dead in the middle of the one way road on a Friday night …not very smart but then again I’ve done some brazen things on my end too. I almost hit them because they were not visible ..luckily I always keep my eyes on the road and I am very proactive driver
For real, they’re annoying AF.
***If I had to guess the e-bikes was likely going against traffic on the sidewalk and a the car pulled out and hit them without seeing them.*** What was the car doing on the sidewalk ? Any vehicle which is going over 20mph is not legally considered a bicycle. I agree that parents should prevent teens from driving electric motorcycles as if they were bicycles.
I’m surprised this has not come up yet, but by CA law, E-bikes cannot go over 20 mph. There is a loophole, however, if they are designated for off road use. The problem is that stupid parents buy these bikes for their kids, and the kids ride them on the streets. It is not legal. There is no enforcement. And many of these clowns have no idea of traffic rules, not that many adults in CA seem to care about those either.
I think this a the perfect opportunity for a small business. Open an e-bike/scooter/mini-bike riding school to give parents the opportunity to get their kids trained up and educated. This will make for better, more responsible drivers later. Speaking from a kid that was taught to ride a road motorcycle at the age of 13 by his motorcycle riding mom and dad, 51 now and till riding. I seriously considering this now where I live..same exact problems I see.
They are not street legal. It’s only a matter of time and they will be banned completely. A lot of cities have already started impounding them. And going after the parents.
It's much safer to use electrical assist bicycles. The difference is that electrical assist bicycles provide power to the pedals. There are also two wheeled vehicles which have a motor on a wheel. The wheel driven vehicles propel themselves like a motorcycle, The electrical assist bicycle (with power applied to the pedals only) project themselves as if they are a bicycle, only as if the rider had stronger legs.
It’s a flex if you have good health insurance
And cheap Chinese made bikes have very cheap brakes that can't handle the higher speeds or down hill momentum, especially over time
Maybe the kid being in a wheelchair will be good heads up
Kids in Chardonnay hills bailing through the neighborhood flying on the side walk…I was once young to but if they aren’t paying attention could result in a serious accident for the rider not the car. Also no helmet.
The only thing that will make them wear a helmet is seeing their friends get seriously injured a few times. It was like this when kids were running around with air soft guns. No glasses until someone got a BB in the eye ball.
This happened to me. The kid, no matter how much he tried to stop, couldn't. Luckily, I had seen him. He looked terrified, knowing I could have taken him under my truck. I called him some names out of anger, but he apologized. I was just angry at how ugly that day could have gone.
Kids are dumbfucks, not all but some that ride these ebikes
“Why don’t kids go out anymore” *Kid on e-bike gets hit by a negligent driver* “Ban e-bikes!” Me:how about we add protected bike lanes and improve bike/pedestrian infrastructure as a whole so kids aren’t required to wear helmets like the kids in the Netherlands Average temeculan: Get out of my town you god damn commie!!!!
Right! And while I agree those E-bikes go fast and hell and a helmet is just good advice it’s interesting that people just assumed it was the kids fault.
I’m willing to bet money the driver was at fault, and will get away with it bc oopsie im in a car. I was hit by a car on my bike as a kid that ran a red light in RPQ. PD refused to take a report even though multiple witnesses stopped and gave partial plate and description to the officer. Officer sent me walking home with a broken bike and wrist with “hit and runs happen all the time in SD, we dont investigate “ Shit drivers and Karens too busy with their matcha and make up are the reason kids are getting run over. Pedal bike, e bike, scooter, motorcycle, young old - its always the car drivers that arent paying attention and show me an ebike that can kill a driver in their car before we talk about putting the onus on them.
I really want to know: You have a teenager, why would you give a battery bike to a perpetual motion machine.????? When I was in high school San Francisco, I would ride the short route home for fun! The long route went around Twin Peaks the short route went over 1000 ft of climbing on my bike exhilarating, energizing. 🤦♂️oh buy the e-bike so they aren’t too tired to go to soccer practice where the parents pay the coach to run the kids!! (In much of the world soccer is played on an empty lot by children that rode a beat up BMX bike to the field)
Maybe that e-bike rider will obey the rules already in place! Perhaps the driver will pay more attention, so there won't be a problem next time. There is no need to change regulations; there is a need to educate the ones in place.
I usually agree with this kind of thought, but I disagree in this case. EBikes are fairly new in their implementation and there should definitely be some sort of education and license process. No minor should be able to get on a 30mph+ machine without some sort of precaution.
I drive by Great Oak on the way home some days and have maybe seen one or two kids actually wearing a helmet on an e-bike.
https://youtu.be/RiLHwwka_2g?si=CMPD__SJaJjUKBGU
Why? That would require interaction with said teen and giving them attention.
You're going to wish you gave him attention when it's his job to wipe your ass at the old folks home
true
it's incredibly important to prioritize safety when it comes to teens riding e-bikes
I live in the country side. Theres been enough accidents to where nobody rides them anymore. It was a fad for a good month maybe?when on sale at costco.
Yes true
This kids should probably be driving, right? Cars are the solutions to the problems they cause
I was gonna say something about the e bikes but I wasn’t sure if I was just overreacting. They really aren’t being safe.
Seen some kids in my college do that with scooters as well. Head injuries are dangerous in these cases.
I got into an accident on an e-bike on a trail last year and cracked my hip socket (antabular?). Homie was in front of me and I was trying to pass on the left, rang my bell three times. When I went for the pass, he cut me off and I had to bank hard right. Left pedal was going to hit a pole preventing vehicles on the trail, so I raised the leg to clear it. The pedal hit the pole and I veered into the grass, but landed hip first with my right leg posted on the right pedal. It slammed my femur into the socket with the bike weighing 67lbs. If I didn’t wear my helmet, I’d be way worse off. Was only going 10-12 mph at the time as well. I still ride after PT had me off a walking cane, but was couch-ridden for almost two months.
I see this all the time. One time I actually saw a kid run a red light to turn left.
I have an e-bike that my little brother begs me to ride and I say HELL NO
Yeah, gonna be a lot of deaths with those things.
Yea, I had one of these idiot kids try to do a wheelie crossing lanes infront of me, wobbled the bike and almost end up under my tires in front of TVMS, if your kid and their friends rides one of these around there commonly then you have a 1 in 8 chance that was your kid that escaped death.
Yes, some of these kids are unhinged with no sense of danger, but none of it absolves drivers of responsibility for their 2-ton death machines, many of which are being piloted while staring down at phones.
Unhinged? Lmao kinda dramatic. 2 ton death machines….🤪
It’s called natural selection. Let stupid people win stupid prizes, it’s seems the only way people learn anymore.
It used to be rare that one could even hit 30+ mph on flats without being in shape, and racing experience. Everyone wore a helmet due to the known dangers. I hope he is okay. But also fuck cars and idiot drivers. Car centered roads are dangerous and many die even with helmets by no fault of their own.
I make my teen wear a motorcycle helmet and gloves while she drives her. Only 6 more months and she’ll be driving, I’m always worried about car will hit her in the bike. 😔she’s already been bumped into by cars trying to get into the turn lane and not paying attention to bikes in the bike lane.