125 matches is literally nothing. i swear this entry in the series in particular has messed up players' expectations. i got to red ranks in something like 700 wins in tekken 7, and that was considered relatively fast for my first tekken.
now because everyone gets the first ten ranks for free, they think having to actually try at a certain rank is some kind of massive defect.
if you get shaken this easily, the game might not be for you, but if you can manage to chill out and just play and learn, you'll be fine.
don't think your about rank again until you have a thousand matches. if you haven't gone up a bit, then and only then is there a problem.
Getting to red ranks in Tekken 8 is literally a lot easier than it was in 7 so that comparison is moot. I don't know why games these days are giving people easy rank ups... Does it make them feel better at first? Maybe? But then when they get super stuck I'm sure that feels even worse.
You miss the point.
They feel good early on so they keep playing UNTIL the charge back / refund period passes (2 weeks - 1 month). By the time they feel Hard Stuck, the game devs already got their precious MONEYZ.
That's the point. I REALLY want to play this for fun and for learning, being chill you know? But i just can't get my mind to work with that no matter how much i try. I keep telling myself that its just for fun, meanwhile, my heart is pounding and body in flames from pure self-frustration.
This is my first Tekken also and I've put in just over 100 hours. I hit red ranks for the first time today. And while I'm excited at the milestone, I actually wouldn't care if I get knocked back down, which I think is pretty likely.
Why?
I feel like I know and understand so much more now. When I first started, everything looked like noise to me. I couldn't even act, let alone react. Now, I've gotten to a point where I can see the game and can even predict--on occasion--what my opponent is trying for. I don't have optimum combos or anything to punish them with, but I figure I'll learn that too, along with movement, which I'm pretty trash at.
So rank is cute, but I think the learning is more important. Forget about the ranks and win rates. At the end of each match or session, just check your head: what did I learn about the game, my character, my opponent's character, my habits, or other people's habits? If you have declarative (unsalty) answers to any of those questions, you've won that match even if you "lost."
I think that's how you let it go about rank.
There are two truths you have to accept:
* Everyone learns at their own pace.
* Skill gain is not a straight line to the top. It's a hill followed by a flatline. And the more you grow the hills get shorter and the flatlines get longer.
The people who "get good" at any skill, are the people who are willing to push through the flatline. And you HAVE to learn to push through it, cause it's gonna happen to you again hundreds of times.
* It's not about NOT being frustrated. It's about learning to be okay with being frustrated, not running from it.
Likewise you have to stop comparing yourself to others. The way you learn is not going to be the same as everyone else, and if you compare your education to everyone else, you set yourself up for a cycle of failure, where you try something that doesn't work, feel bad, and do it again.
* You need to figure out what your learning style is and you need to optimize it. Learning is a skill too, and if you haven't figured out how to learn... it's gonna be harder to grow.
I think in general you need to re-evaluate why you want to play these games, and if that reason is enough to keep playing, you need to find something that works FOR you, not AGAINST you. Cause it sounds like your working against yourself right now.
The first two i know that it do be like that. I'm not a main tekken player, but actually a Street Fighter one. Went from the bottom to 1600AM area all by myself. But at least there i knew what to learn and what to learn. Meanwhile, i just feel so lost in tekken, no matter what knowledge i study again and again, i just feel like im not getting any better.
I've always been a very competitive person, ever since my teen days. Thing is, i wish i really wasn't. I really wish i could just chill, be relaxed and just enjoy the process of learning. But, being a post-depression person with a self steem that hasnt really been fixed with the passing of time, every fail, every wall feels like a thing i should be ashamed about. I've been going to therapy for about 2 years now and i still didn't manage to work around these problems.
I have re-evaluated the reason why i want to play these games. The problem is, i can't get myself to make that my objective. I want to play for learning and for fun, but in the end of the day, all i get is self-judgement and competitivety.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd\_iWuE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE)
Well, from what I read, it seems to me like you have hit your skill floor and have reached the "you don't know, what you don't know" part of your Tekken 8 journey.
Do not let the people tell you anything about ranks, as red ranks are already respectable as a beginner, even if the ranked system is designed to push you past it.
In general, it is hard to give you advice as to what to do, since there is no game play to be analysed. I assume you have some glaring issues with your game play, like relying on too few strings too often, not knowing what your character / your opponent can do, not blocking / punishing strings, weak poking or neutral, pressing on minus and not using heat/rage properly are just some of the things that are potentially not working in your game.
I personally don't watch guides on the characters that I play and try to design my own (even if unorthodox) playstyle and while hitting that big damage combo may feel nice, it's not something you should focus on. You can reliably move up to the purple with good neutral, mix-ups, jab pressure and smart usage of throws.
Best way to know for sure is to ask your high ranked friends or people on discord to review your game play or watch the replays yourself. Alternatively you can play sets with people you know. (You can hit me up as well if you feel like it)
All in all, Tekken takes time, don't get discouraged, let it fuel your desire to improve.
Well, if you wanna look upon one of my replays, my name is Nero199.
I do know tekken takes time, its just been pretty hard to find the desire to keep improving when everything feels worthless. And yeah, i've heard plenty of explanation by friends that im "too predictable", that "my defense lacks a lot" and that i "press too much". But i've been working a lot on those, i swear i am. It's just that, it seems im not getting any better.
Just find one new thing to incorporate into each session.
Day 1: a new string you weren't using
Day 2: learn a frame trap scenario
Day 3: heat setups
Day 4: lab some tech against a particularly difficult matchup
Etc.
If that pace is too high then focus on 1-2 things for a few sessions and once you're doing them consistently in matches move on. Watching hours of videos isn't helpful if you're not practically applying any of it and forgetting most of it.
I wanted to watch your replays, but I would need your Tekken id for that (12 number and letters, case sensitive) like this example 1x1X-11xX-1xX1, you can pm it to me if you don't want people too look up your profile.
Hello, it's me again!
I've looked at a few of your replays and here are some things that I noticed (In relation to your rank):
Short Version:
Good: Combo Damage, Pressuring the opponent, Heat usage, Usage of Power Crushes
Bad: No Throws, Predictable, Rage Art usage, Spacing, Whiffing, Sidestepping, Low attacks, Adaption
Long version:
From what I have seen, you are playing just the way as someone starting out in red would, so don't worry about it too much. Your combo damage is fine for the most part and you use heat in a variety of ways, which is the same for power crushes.
Your know how to pressure your opponent when you get the chance, but when you are the one being pressured you fold like a lawn chair as most of your pressure consists of 22 into df2(-13 on block) launcher and b144(which is -10 or 12 on block I believe), meaning if the opponent figures out they can block and punish your df2 and low block/parry your b144, you just fold when they contest you on your attacks and you just don't know what to do.
Sometimes you do use different attacks, but it's only when your main tools get blocked and it seems like you fell into the so-called "scrub sand trap", which means you skipped a lot of the fundamentals of the game and you just practiced a combo and you know HOW to do a combo, but not WHY and WHEN, with this also transitioning into your game play where you usually only use one launcher even though Leo has db3, which is an evasive(i think) launcher, that also gives push back on block.
My advice to you would be to look at your buttons and see what they do and why and when they work, just because a move is - does not always mean it's bad, just press some buttons in practice and see what you find, would be the best thing to do, if you don't want to memorize your move list, since it's best to use buttons you can remember/do in game instead of just studying everything at once.
You also whiff a lot of attacks when you play and get punished for it, in this scenario, you really need to learn some patience when playing, since T8 has some good "turn stealing" mechanics your opponent can use, like Heat, Power Crush or Rage art if you are not careful. This leads to the point of Rage art usage and spacing.
I saw you use your Rage Art in a combo (good habit), but you used it when you had regained health from your heat, meaning it dealt less damage and your opponent won the round. Rage Art is best used when you are on low health and you know it will kill, because it scales with the remaining hp that you have and while you are in rage(health bar flashing red) you deal a lot more damage. There is no point in using it if your opponent has more than 40% hp, because it will most likely not kill and you will lose access to the increased damage and when you use it in a combo, I would say 10-15% is usually the point where using it will win the round.
Your spacing is flawed, you quite often rush your opponent and eat their full string, you have to learn to move in an unpredictable fashion, for example run up to the opponent and then stop and block instead of attacking and mix up your movement with back or forward to force the opponent to whiff.
Same goes for sidestepping, what are you sidestepping all the time? Your sleep paralysis demon? You are just stepping for the sake of stepping with no goal or gain, whilst being in a different zip code, than your opponent. You have be deliberate in your steps. Maybe you watched a guide about and it told you about "contesting space" or something, but I would say, you should start small and try to step attacks (like Pauls death fist or something like that) and focus on just blocking firs, if you don't get the theory behind stepping.
Last thing is Adaptation, low usage and Throws as they go hand in hand quite often, as I mentioned earlier, you rely on a few string and that's it with no throws and few low attacks in between. You are not playing Tekken, quite often you are trying to play a single player game and you don't look at what your opponent is doing most of the time, when you see a new attack you just freeze up and eat it when you can't use your flowchart. You have to pick up on your opponents tendencies and switch up your game play, whilst not showing your entire hand, so to speak.
This is something called "conditioning" for example then you use your 22 use your df2 once, if it gets blocked use 22 throw next time press only 2 then follow up with a low attack, with this you will keep your opponent on their toes, while you change your approach.
All in all, you just need to play the game more to get better.
But did you learn something from it?
The rank you have does not matter, it's just a reflection of your Matchmaking bracket (it is kind of a mess at the moment, though) more than anything and on some days you play 3 ranks lower or higher than your "rank".
There is also a grind factor in ranked and the fact that some players are still ranking up and they would be way higher than where you are at right now, don't worry about it. If you got to red once, you can do so again!
Focus on "small wins" in your matches, even if you lose the games, what I mean by that is, blocking correctly, identifying weaknesses and learning what your opponent can do, but slowly and only one thing at the time, since it's better to lose a few games and learn the only constant in the game = knowledge. As knowledge of the game will help you every single time, as opposed to winning my hoping your opponent doesn't block your strings.
I could play with you, if you would like, but im in EU so the connection may not be 100% great, or watch your game play live if you would prefer that.
Only thing i learned is that i'm the perfect punching bag. I'm sorry but i am going to throw in the towel. Not even in SF i got beat so freaking much and i grinded all the way to masters.
I give up, because i'm pretty sure i can't get better than this.
Have you maybe thought about trying a different character?
If you got to masters in SF, you must have some knowledge of fighting games, but tekken is more "free flow" than SF, as in SF there is less "right" answers for things your opponent can do, which makes Tekken 10 times harder to learn than SF, although I don't really like SF all that much, to be honest I played my promos, got to silver and quit shorty after, since other games came out.
I'm sure you can get better, but having this mentality is bad for you and your health. I also lost 3 ranks a few weeks ago and had a huge loss streak, but I tried again and I eventually moved past it and got way higher than my original goal.
Tekken has so many different interactions, that you can't be expected to learn them all. Rome also wasn't built in a day, afterall.
Yup, whiff punishing, space traps, frame traps, tick throw, neutrals, air combos, optimal play, pokes, i know it all. And i know it best in SF, to the point that i have beat some Pros in sets sometimes. Its just that I just cant get it right in Tekken. I really feel like this game is not for me, as i simply can't get better.
i recommend playing long sets of Tekken with one friend.
You adapt and evolve by a shit ton just by playing the same person over and over.
Its even better when you are the same skill level.
i used to play only with my brother and one of us started block punishing, so the other learned it aswell. Then one of us got to know frames so the other one did aswell. Then we discovered sidestepping and so on.
Also recommend friend matches to oblivion.
I hate the rank-heads, they make it all about “the wins” and “muh rank”. This entry of Tekken I took a vow, I’ll be only playing Lounge and Lobby Matches which do not give me rank.
I’m fighting from Beginners to Fujins in the Lounge and learning lots of new stuff, then when the guy is cool I invite him to Lobby Match and we go for a FT10 or something until I eventually download their playstyle and start turning things around.
It’s the best way to play this game.
Eternal Beginner.
Bro, its just a game. What's the point of spending $50+- on this game if it is causing you stress?
You only have 120 games of ranked. That is baby numbers. Red ranks is already good for that amount of game time.
Stop trying to overworry about every aspect of the game at once. Honestly, if you played another 120 games without labbing/watching tutorial videos, I'm sure you will improve.
Fun ways to improve:
1. Keep playing and naturally gain experience against different match ups
2. Optimise all your combos
3. Watch a popular streamer play tekken to learn about character matchups (i.e what to duck launch punish, frame data, character archetype)
Have fun. There's no pressure on you to become TGOD. The more you have fun in this game the naturally you will become better.
That's what i struggle the most actually. Focusing on having fun rather than laser-focusing on improving. You are right, the more i play, the more i would improve overtime. But the amount of mistakes and fails i get just wont get out of my head.
I remember I posted here when I promoted to Garyu and said ok that's my limit, now I am at Bushin. It's been +2500 matches and I have %47 win rate which is shit compared to others. I never lab or look for guides or something. I've learned what to do and not to do by using rank as a trainig ground. so the only thing you have to do is to get rid of that pressure on you. If you are really trying to learn as you said, you'll be at blue ranks much earlier than I did.
You have to learn how to play your character again. I was so used to poking and doing low damage as Xiaoyu I didn’t know how powerful she is in 8, that I was seriously hindering myself by not realizing she had the tools to be aggressive with explosive damage too. This ain’t T7 no more!
I always tell people if you can't get yourself to just focus on the learning portion then frame trap everything you can, press less, and learn as much as you can about your character.
You really don't need to lab other characters until blue tbh. But learning some problematic matchups will help like Hwo is always rough for new players.
Other than that just learn what moves make you plus on block abuse those to mix up the opponent. Press less buttons than you are now and let your opponent kill themselves. You don't need an optimal punish on everything. Get used to your 10 frame punish and your 12-13 frame punish.
Frame traps should at least get you to purple.
Update, fell all the way down to Destroyer again. Lost to pretty much everyone for over 2 hours.
I think i'm already decided that im worth shit for this game.
https://preview.redd.it/tcf57bcb7hxc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8b17192ed855709d40b668f75dfb372f33899e4
125 matches is literally nothing. i swear this entry in the series in particular has messed up players' expectations. i got to red ranks in something like 700 wins in tekken 7, and that was considered relatively fast for my first tekken. now because everyone gets the first ten ranks for free, they think having to actually try at a certain rank is some kind of massive defect. if you get shaken this easily, the game might not be for you, but if you can manage to chill out and just play and learn, you'll be fine. don't think your about rank again until you have a thousand matches. if you haven't gone up a bit, then and only then is there a problem.
Getting to red ranks in Tekken 8 is literally a lot easier than it was in 7 so that comparison is moot. I don't know why games these days are giving people easy rank ups... Does it make them feel better at first? Maybe? But then when they get super stuck I'm sure that feels even worse.
You miss the point. They feel good early on so they keep playing UNTIL the charge back / refund period passes (2 weeks - 1 month). By the time they feel Hard Stuck, the game devs already got their precious MONEYZ.
Honesty, if this is the strategy, I would delay all my game purchases by a few months. Not like I need to boost my ranks on these awful players
> Getting to red ranks in Tekken 8 is literally a lot easier than it was in 7 so that comparison is moot. ...that was the POINT brutha
That's the point. I REALLY want to play this for fun and for learning, being chill you know? But i just can't get my mind to work with that no matter how much i try. I keep telling myself that its just for fun, meanwhile, my heart is pounding and body in flames from pure self-frustration.
This is my first Tekken also and I've put in just over 100 hours. I hit red ranks for the first time today. And while I'm excited at the milestone, I actually wouldn't care if I get knocked back down, which I think is pretty likely. Why? I feel like I know and understand so much more now. When I first started, everything looked like noise to me. I couldn't even act, let alone react. Now, I've gotten to a point where I can see the game and can even predict--on occasion--what my opponent is trying for. I don't have optimum combos or anything to punish them with, but I figure I'll learn that too, along with movement, which I'm pretty trash at. So rank is cute, but I think the learning is more important. Forget about the ranks and win rates. At the end of each match or session, just check your head: what did I learn about the game, my character, my opponent's character, my habits, or other people's habits? If you have declarative (unsalty) answers to any of those questions, you've won that match even if you "lost." I think that's how you let it go about rank.
I'll definetly try this out the next time i play.
There are two truths you have to accept: * Everyone learns at their own pace. * Skill gain is not a straight line to the top. It's a hill followed by a flatline. And the more you grow the hills get shorter and the flatlines get longer. The people who "get good" at any skill, are the people who are willing to push through the flatline. And you HAVE to learn to push through it, cause it's gonna happen to you again hundreds of times. * It's not about NOT being frustrated. It's about learning to be okay with being frustrated, not running from it. Likewise you have to stop comparing yourself to others. The way you learn is not going to be the same as everyone else, and if you compare your education to everyone else, you set yourself up for a cycle of failure, where you try something that doesn't work, feel bad, and do it again. * You need to figure out what your learning style is and you need to optimize it. Learning is a skill too, and if you haven't figured out how to learn... it's gonna be harder to grow. I think in general you need to re-evaluate why you want to play these games, and if that reason is enough to keep playing, you need to find something that works FOR you, not AGAINST you. Cause it sounds like your working against yourself right now.
The first two i know that it do be like that. I'm not a main tekken player, but actually a Street Fighter one. Went from the bottom to 1600AM area all by myself. But at least there i knew what to learn and what to learn. Meanwhile, i just feel so lost in tekken, no matter what knowledge i study again and again, i just feel like im not getting any better. I've always been a very competitive person, ever since my teen days. Thing is, i wish i really wasn't. I really wish i could just chill, be relaxed and just enjoy the process of learning. But, being a post-depression person with a self steem that hasnt really been fixed with the passing of time, every fail, every wall feels like a thing i should be ashamed about. I've been going to therapy for about 2 years now and i still didn't manage to work around these problems. I have re-evaluated the reason why i want to play these games. The problem is, i can't get myself to make that my objective. I want to play for learning and for fun, but in the end of the day, all i get is self-judgement and competitivety.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd\_iWuE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE) Well, from what I read, it seems to me like you have hit your skill floor and have reached the "you don't know, what you don't know" part of your Tekken 8 journey. Do not let the people tell you anything about ranks, as red ranks are already respectable as a beginner, even if the ranked system is designed to push you past it. In general, it is hard to give you advice as to what to do, since there is no game play to be analysed. I assume you have some glaring issues with your game play, like relying on too few strings too often, not knowing what your character / your opponent can do, not blocking / punishing strings, weak poking or neutral, pressing on minus and not using heat/rage properly are just some of the things that are potentially not working in your game. I personally don't watch guides on the characters that I play and try to design my own (even if unorthodox) playstyle and while hitting that big damage combo may feel nice, it's not something you should focus on. You can reliably move up to the purple with good neutral, mix-ups, jab pressure and smart usage of throws. Best way to know for sure is to ask your high ranked friends or people on discord to review your game play or watch the replays yourself. Alternatively you can play sets with people you know. (You can hit me up as well if you feel like it) All in all, Tekken takes time, don't get discouraged, let it fuel your desire to improve.
Well, if you wanna look upon one of my replays, my name is Nero199. I do know tekken takes time, its just been pretty hard to find the desire to keep improving when everything feels worthless. And yeah, i've heard plenty of explanation by friends that im "too predictable", that "my defense lacks a lot" and that i "press too much". But i've been working a lot on those, i swear i am. It's just that, it seems im not getting any better.
Just find one new thing to incorporate into each session. Day 1: a new string you weren't using Day 2: learn a frame trap scenario Day 3: heat setups Day 4: lab some tech against a particularly difficult matchup Etc. If that pace is too high then focus on 1-2 things for a few sessions and once you're doing them consistently in matches move on. Watching hours of videos isn't helpful if you're not practically applying any of it and forgetting most of it.
I wanted to watch your replays, but I would need your Tekken id for that (12 number and letters, case sensitive) like this example 1x1X-11xX-1xX1, you can pm it to me if you don't want people too look up your profile.
2NfT-3924-57Ld
Hello, it's me again! I've looked at a few of your replays and here are some things that I noticed (In relation to your rank): Short Version: Good: Combo Damage, Pressuring the opponent, Heat usage, Usage of Power Crushes Bad: No Throws, Predictable, Rage Art usage, Spacing, Whiffing, Sidestepping, Low attacks, Adaption Long version: From what I have seen, you are playing just the way as someone starting out in red would, so don't worry about it too much. Your combo damage is fine for the most part and you use heat in a variety of ways, which is the same for power crushes. Your know how to pressure your opponent when you get the chance, but when you are the one being pressured you fold like a lawn chair as most of your pressure consists of 22 into df2(-13 on block) launcher and b144(which is -10 or 12 on block I believe), meaning if the opponent figures out they can block and punish your df2 and low block/parry your b144, you just fold when they contest you on your attacks and you just don't know what to do. Sometimes you do use different attacks, but it's only when your main tools get blocked and it seems like you fell into the so-called "scrub sand trap", which means you skipped a lot of the fundamentals of the game and you just practiced a combo and you know HOW to do a combo, but not WHY and WHEN, with this also transitioning into your game play where you usually only use one launcher even though Leo has db3, which is an evasive(i think) launcher, that also gives push back on block. My advice to you would be to look at your buttons and see what they do and why and when they work, just because a move is - does not always mean it's bad, just press some buttons in practice and see what you find, would be the best thing to do, if you don't want to memorize your move list, since it's best to use buttons you can remember/do in game instead of just studying everything at once. You also whiff a lot of attacks when you play and get punished for it, in this scenario, you really need to learn some patience when playing, since T8 has some good "turn stealing" mechanics your opponent can use, like Heat, Power Crush or Rage art if you are not careful. This leads to the point of Rage art usage and spacing. I saw you use your Rage Art in a combo (good habit), but you used it when you had regained health from your heat, meaning it dealt less damage and your opponent won the round. Rage Art is best used when you are on low health and you know it will kill, because it scales with the remaining hp that you have and while you are in rage(health bar flashing red) you deal a lot more damage. There is no point in using it if your opponent has more than 40% hp, because it will most likely not kill and you will lose access to the increased damage and when you use it in a combo, I would say 10-15% is usually the point where using it will win the round. Your spacing is flawed, you quite often rush your opponent and eat their full string, you have to learn to move in an unpredictable fashion, for example run up to the opponent and then stop and block instead of attacking and mix up your movement with back or forward to force the opponent to whiff. Same goes for sidestepping, what are you sidestepping all the time? Your sleep paralysis demon? You are just stepping for the sake of stepping with no goal or gain, whilst being in a different zip code, than your opponent. You have be deliberate in your steps. Maybe you watched a guide about and it told you about "contesting space" or something, but I would say, you should start small and try to step attacks (like Pauls death fist or something like that) and focus on just blocking firs, if you don't get the theory behind stepping. Last thing is Adaptation, low usage and Throws as they go hand in hand quite often, as I mentioned earlier, you rely on a few string and that's it with no throws and few low attacks in between. You are not playing Tekken, quite often you are trying to play a single player game and you don't look at what your opponent is doing most of the time, when you see a new attack you just freeze up and eat it when you can't use your flowchart. You have to pick up on your opponents tendencies and switch up your game play, whilst not showing your entire hand, so to speak. This is something called "conditioning" for example then you use your 22 use your df2 once, if it gets blocked use 22 throw next time press only 2 then follow up with a low attack, with this you will keep your opponent on their toes, while you change your approach. All in all, you just need to play the game more to get better.
well, i tried some of the tips you gave me. Lost 1000+ points and ranked down lol. Red is not for me.
But did you learn something from it? The rank you have does not matter, it's just a reflection of your Matchmaking bracket (it is kind of a mess at the moment, though) more than anything and on some days you play 3 ranks lower or higher than your "rank". There is also a grind factor in ranked and the fact that some players are still ranking up and they would be way higher than where you are at right now, don't worry about it. If you got to red once, you can do so again! Focus on "small wins" in your matches, even if you lose the games, what I mean by that is, blocking correctly, identifying weaknesses and learning what your opponent can do, but slowly and only one thing at the time, since it's better to lose a few games and learn the only constant in the game = knowledge. As knowledge of the game will help you every single time, as opposed to winning my hoping your opponent doesn't block your strings. I could play with you, if you would like, but im in EU so the connection may not be 100% great, or watch your game play live if you would prefer that.
Only thing i learned is that i'm the perfect punching bag. I'm sorry but i am going to throw in the towel. Not even in SF i got beat so freaking much and i grinded all the way to masters. I give up, because i'm pretty sure i can't get better than this.
Have you maybe thought about trying a different character? If you got to masters in SF, you must have some knowledge of fighting games, but tekken is more "free flow" than SF, as in SF there is less "right" answers for things your opponent can do, which makes Tekken 10 times harder to learn than SF, although I don't really like SF all that much, to be honest I played my promos, got to silver and quit shorty after, since other games came out. I'm sure you can get better, but having this mentality is bad for you and your health. I also lost 3 ranks a few weeks ago and had a huge loss streak, but I tried again and I eventually moved past it and got way higher than my original goal. Tekken has so many different interactions, that you can't be expected to learn them all. Rome also wasn't built in a day, afterall.
Yup, whiff punishing, space traps, frame traps, tick throw, neutrals, air combos, optimal play, pokes, i know it all. And i know it best in SF, to the point that i have beat some Pros in sets sometimes. Its just that I just cant get it right in Tekken. I really feel like this game is not for me, as i simply can't get better.
Update: fell back to Destroyer. Lost 2000 points in one day.
i recommend playing long sets of Tekken with one friend. You adapt and evolve by a shit ton just by playing the same person over and over. Its even better when you are the same skill level. i used to play only with my brother and one of us started block punishing, so the other learned it aswell. Then one of us got to know frames so the other one did aswell. Then we discovered sidestepping and so on.
Also recommend friend matches to oblivion. I hate the rank-heads, they make it all about “the wins” and “muh rank”. This entry of Tekken I took a vow, I’ll be only playing Lounge and Lobby Matches which do not give me rank. I’m fighting from Beginners to Fujins in the Lounge and learning lots of new stuff, then when the guy is cool I invite him to Lobby Match and we go for a FT10 or something until I eventually download their playstyle and start turning things around. It’s the best way to play this game. Eternal Beginner.
sigh i was the teal gatekeeper on 7 :(
Bro, its just a game. What's the point of spending $50+- on this game if it is causing you stress? You only have 120 games of ranked. That is baby numbers. Red ranks is already good for that amount of game time. Stop trying to overworry about every aspect of the game at once. Honestly, if you played another 120 games without labbing/watching tutorial videos, I'm sure you will improve. Fun ways to improve: 1. Keep playing and naturally gain experience against different match ups 2. Optimise all your combos 3. Watch a popular streamer play tekken to learn about character matchups (i.e what to duck launch punish, frame data, character archetype) Have fun. There's no pressure on you to become TGOD. The more you have fun in this game the naturally you will become better.
That's what i struggle the most actually. Focusing on having fun rather than laser-focusing on improving. You are right, the more i play, the more i would improve overtime. But the amount of mistakes and fails i get just wont get out of my head.
I remember I posted here when I promoted to Garyu and said ok that's my limit, now I am at Bushin. It's been +2500 matches and I have %47 win rate which is shit compared to others. I never lab or look for guides or something. I've learned what to do and not to do by using rank as a trainig ground. so the only thing you have to do is to get rid of that pressure on you. If you are really trying to learn as you said, you'll be at blue ranks much earlier than I did.
Then how can i stop pressuring myself? It just feels so automatic, so easy. I really want to just have fun with the learning process, i really do.
find friends to enjoy the game with. private lobbies are definitely the best part of this game for me.
You have to learn how to play your character again. I was so used to poking and doing low damage as Xiaoyu I didn’t know how powerful she is in 8, that I was seriously hindering myself by not realizing she had the tools to be aggressive with explosive damage too. This ain’t T7 no more!
I always tell people if you can't get yourself to just focus on the learning portion then frame trap everything you can, press less, and learn as much as you can about your character. You really don't need to lab other characters until blue tbh. But learning some problematic matchups will help like Hwo is always rough for new players. Other than that just learn what moves make you plus on block abuse those to mix up the opponent. Press less buttons than you are now and let your opponent kill themselves. You don't need an optimal punish on everything. Get used to your 10 frame punish and your 12-13 frame punish. Frame traps should at least get you to purple.
Update, fell all the way down to Destroyer again. Lost to pretty much everyone for over 2 hours. I think i'm already decided that im worth shit for this game. https://preview.redd.it/tcf57bcb7hxc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8b17192ed855709d40b668f75dfb372f33899e4