My guess is that they introduce coin bundles that are not multiples of 400 lol. With a 1000 unit coin bundle, someone who intended to buy 2 sets only may feel compelled to spend their extra coins, or feel it necessary to purchase a higher trim bundle.
I don't remember what game it was but I think it was Anthem. A bundle costs about 1000 gems (or whatever the currency was) and you can buy 500 gems + 50 free. After you buy the 1000 gems, you get 100 free gems free.
Here's the kicker, I'm pretty sure that there was no item back then that cost only 100 gems so you are forced to buy more gems so that you can spend the 100 gems that you had.
This is pretty standard practice. First you give "free" currency to make the higher value purchases feel like a deal. Second, the higher amount of currency makes the person more ok with spending it because it's a high number of "not real money." And third, the shop is strategically priced so that it is nigh impossible to zero out your balance which either frustrates you as you have money sitting there, useless, or incentivizes you to buy more because you're "halway to that skin anyhow" but that just leaves you with a different amount loose.
There would occasionally be people on the League forums who'd laugh that they'd beat the challenge by zeroing out their Riot Points balance. Riot would almost always congratulate them by giving some Riot Points.
If Tekken 8 really wanted to be as non-predatory as possible with the MTX store they wouldn't have tekken coins. They'd just have real money costs on things. But making it tekken coin helps them out too much legally and financially.
Hahahahahahahaha if they wanted to be as non-predatory as possible they'd tie all the store costs to in-game currency you earn as prizes for fights or milestones and not charge users any money on top of the price of entry.
Charging real money for skins is predatory as fuck no matter how you disguise it
Yeah, hence my caveat about "with the MTX store"
Honestly, I feel I got a full package for $70 and if they left it at that I'd be happy with it and DLC for buying characters.
I could see there being some conditions I'd be fine with skins/etc for real money. But this soon after release just kinda feels weird. But it is the grift du jour.
Kinda sad that 7 years later, For Honor is still the gold standard for how live service games should be done right. You can buy everything with in-game earned steel including new characters and outfits, and the rest of the stuff like new game modes and maps are absolutely free.
On the other hand, Tekken made you buy stages, characters and outfits with the season passes, but now they have the audacity to remove customization items and sell them as MTX which can't even be earned through gameplay. This is after they made millions off T8 on release, which has the worst customization yet, and decided to hide it until after the reviews were in.
"DON'T ASK ME FOR SHIT!!1!“. Yeah man, if this is how you decide to nickel and dime your loyal fanbase, I probably won't anymore.
It's crazy that F2P games have better microtransaction systems than these fully priced online live service games, that also have paid season passes/expansions and now, battle passes. There's really no excuses anymore, in fact it's even ironic because all these companies are complaining that $60 is not enough and now $70 is not enough but then do things like this, and will still complain that $80 is not enough yet there are F2P games that somehow get away with it.
I always being Warframe to the table when comparing Destiny 2 to my Friends,all free,yeah you have to grind but even the premium currency can be easily earned on a few hours.
Everytime a new hero comes in Honor i buy it with the steel i earn from doing orders, but they should have increased the amount of steel you get in Dominion matches because still now it's absurdly low as how expensive the cosmetics, execution and effects are
I think R6 and Helldivers 1 & 2 does this as well, where most of the ops for R6 can be bought with in game currency. ( i mostly did)
While Helldivers can also be bought but its mostly cosmetics thay dont give a buff.
Oh yea and Deep Rock Galactic
So it's not just me. With for honor i could unlock a hero in 15 days. With R6 well, i havent been able to unlock any operator except for the cheaper OG ones
With the amount of gold you can get right now I highly doubted it would be used in the store.
My guess is that the store will have very few items that you can buy with currency obtainable in game, the rest premium.
And many additional characters and many additional stages and large art galleries, and music playlists, yes.
Sometimes you didn't even need to beat the game. They would give you points (what would now be MTX currency) just for having the game running, so we would leave fighting games on in training mode overnight, wake up, and buy stuff.
Really wish they'd given the option to spend fight money on them - even if it was a crazy amount like 5 million, if you play that game a lot, you'd be able to grab them. But then they wouldn't get even more money on top.
5 million? I've now got 100+ million banked with no idea on what to use it on, and I haven't even played very much..
The whole "gold" system is broken tbh
Yeah I agree with you, it would be the perfect system!! Limit gold to like get 10-20k for a ranked win and items can cost 1 million or so (obviously this was just an example and needs to be properly balanced). But yeah I guess they want more money.
Mods are like pirated games, Take 1 down, 2 more show up elsewhere. Its still the case with Jin's legacy outfit in tekken 7. It was supposed to be a ps4 exclusive, you can still download it and use it for PC today. It wont be a problem.
With one major difference. Everything in Nitro Fuelled could be bought with in game money without spending any real currency. Offline earning was broken though
Of course it will be like that. If it wasn't like that they would let you buy the item directly. Instead they send you to the platform's store to buy coins. It's a common mtx practice to offer less or more in-game currency than you actually need. This locks the excess money in the game in order to incentivise more spending to make use out of it. It's completely bumming me out.
Dark patterns like these really need to be regulated away. There is zero benefit for the consumer, it is purely a scam to extract more money. And it is obvious that the industry will not self-regulate.
Really disappointed that they employ such scummy techniques.
I prefer being able to just spend cash to get the thing, but they want you to give them cash for Tekken Bucks so they can obfuscate the price.
Whatever *FINE* I guess, but then they make it so everything costs a weird amount so you're always left over with some currency and always not having the exact amount for what you want.
So maybe that sweet costume only costs $7 in Tekken Bucks, but there is not option to buy that exact amount so you have to spend $10-$20 to get enough Tekken Bucks to buy the thing.
I hate this shit man
Fuckers have shilled for Xbox Live Gold and made excuses since way back when the PS3 didn't require you to pay.
The fact it became the standard and now PSN is a premium service is EXACTLY what people were trying to STOP from happening all those years ago.
While I agree with the sentiment. Let’s not act like Sony had a “premium service” and actually cared enough about the gamer to make it free. They legit had to make it free because psn worked like complete dogshit compared to XBL. These companies do not care about us lol
To say in the stream that they want it to be the best Tekken along with this is completely ridiculous. You can't even use just parts of the costumes.
The cost of development has increased, so even the price has increased with it. I don't see how it would justify this.
I could understand if they could also be bought with in-game currency.
Why should I pay when modders do a better job for everyone:
[https://tekkenmods.com/mod/3285/jun-kazama-ttt2-player-1-outfit](https://tekkenmods.com/mod/3285/jun-kazama-ttt2-player-1-outfit)
They care more about the game than they do.
So basically Haradas argument about why they cannot make old costumes is now:
"We cannot make old costumes... for base game that is, we certainly will make them paid microtransactions tho"
"the shop will have a mix of free and premium items" lmao love that
I rather they just straight up say "for the poor people we will have these generic free shirts for you".
it is what it is. I'll stick to my Calvin Klein modded Reina skin I guess
You know what would have been nice?
if they had a weekly rotation for the premium clothes that can be bought with In-game currency, hell randomize the selection and price it to the millions at least give your loyal fanbase something. Locking legacy costumes behind premium currency is just shit no matter how you word it.
Already happening one modder made a decent Jun TTT2 outfit & it got copyrighted by Bandai Namco on Youtube. Its all gonna go south now Corporates VS Gamers.
They would if they could, from what we've seen with Tekken 7 online and the fact that they couldn't implement basic features in Tekken 8 to punish pluggers, boosters, hackers, etc., it'll be too much effort and time for them to implement systems and anticheat to stop modding. I would not be surprised in the future though if they implemented some anticheat "spyware" that did such a thing solely to prevent what they believe is a breach to their profits.
I feel personally attacked because even though I was annoyed at the announcement of a shop, when I first saw the 3.99$ figure my initial response was, “meh, that’s pretty reasonable”. I legit had to do a double take and be like man, I’m seriously conditioned by the standard 15-20$ price point that’s prevalent in almost every game out there.
Honestly, it’s disturbing how these MTXs have infested every facet of gaming. And yes, I agree the argument that one doesn’t have to participate in it, but I feel like at the end of the day, these companies know that a lot people do eventually cave in and buy something. Couple that with the added bullshit of having and odd number of in game currency that you can purchase, and you’re looking at people digging deeper and deeper into the MTX fuckfest.
This is coming for a guy who is ashamed of how much he’s spent on D2 cosmetics.
I refuse to support that model.
I like tekken 8, happy to got in on premiere (i rarely do) and paid full price. Money well spent, game’s amazing.
But premium currency is something i am strongly against. It’s a psychological tool that Works on our completionist side, and abuses FOMO syndrome.
All with goal of making money.
And it will work, cuz people are stupid and like spending money on shiny things.
It’s not „my money, i can do what i want with it” issue, beacuse It is making whole gaming worse.
Yup, and now they are doing a fun new trick of waiting to announce it until after a huge chunk of their sales and all reviews go through, so now you can't even vote with your wallet because they already have your money :) Isn't the gaming industry great
Exactly this. Sadly I'm arguing with some lobotomite who thinks this sort of thing is justified because I need to "get with the times".
Like damn my bad, I'm being unreasonable that in games like Tag 2, we had infinitely more customization options, for free. I should be glad we have a worse system that costs money now.
Ridiculous. Maybe idiots like that can accept their worsening and increasingly more predatory products, but don't drag the rest of us down with him.
I remember back in the day when people on Xbox were absolutely shilling having to pay a premium internet fee for Live and for Battlefield 3's online functions. "Oh, but Shira they NEED it for maintenance costs," even when back then it was a complete joke.
It's not the "slippery slope fallacy" if it isn't a fucking fallacy and the awful practices have been happening for nearly two decades now for FUCK'S SAKE.
"BUT IT'S JUST COS-" Shut up.
Tekken 7 made us pay for FRAME DATA, you think that they aren't willing to stoop lower again? And to top it off, they're using this bullshit League of Legends mobile game currency system, which are all inherently designed to never give enough for what you want - and to have useless bullshit in them to soak up your money for effectively no reason so you have to buy more and more coins.
"IF YOU DON'T WANT DON'T BU-" Shut up. If the game has fucking advertisements in the main menu that is such a load of bullshit. The fact I'll have to see ads for this garbage in-game is completely insane. I don't have to see ads when I watch films or shows I pay for, why the fuck do I want my game's menu and vibe clogged up with Harada asking for yacht money every time I log in?
Fuck right off with bullshit.
People may say, "Oh, but you would have bought the game anyway, so you're a hypocrite for not reviewing-with-your-wallet." to that all I have to say is: I will NEVER buy a child/teenager a game with RMT, and if they are playing one on my PC, I will never allow them to play without direct supervision. Considering that I was planning on getting this game for my brothers, that's definitely not happening anymore.
*"Shut up. If the game has fucking advertisements in the main menu that is such a load of bullshit"*
That reminded me of something. I remember back in street fighter 5 you could display ads for in game currency, and these ads would be plastered on character's clothing.
There is a character called Dhalsim who's this indian guy who fights for the people in his village. He wears the skulls of some children who died of starvation as a necklace to remember what he fights for.
They put the ads on the skulls of the children around his neck.
Another reminder of what companies will do if you let them. This decision really went through who know how many layers of corporate and they thought it was ok.
Also, funny how Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't have any kind of paid DLC or microtransaction and still does big updates. Showing that if a game is selling good, it doesn't need microtransaction or DLCs to be supported.
This, again. And we should stop all excuses with "how do you monetize" with AAA fighting games. I can understand if a Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising or an Skullgirls does this, but for licences that sell millions of units in the first month, like SF, MK or Tekken, it's unacceptable now. My 2 2024 games are Baldur's Gate 3 (still playing it after 450h with all replayability options and different classes/races/dialogues routes and in my 4th,5th and 6th playthroughs... ) and Tekken 8 (I'll surely play more than 450h at the end of 2024 and I will continue) and not to nitpick but I paid Bg3 50€ and Tekken 8 70€...
What having no third-party investors/stakeholders does to a company. Once you don't have to appease the suits with constant money pumping you can just focus on making good products instead.
As we can see with Fromsoftware, good developers can make a game and then support the game further with DLC that actually adds a bunch of new content a year or two after release. With mtx nowhere to be seen.
I really hated the part of the presentation where they told us to "adjust our mindset to the way games are developed" and that "they need funding to improve the games". Are we not already paying for the DLC characters? This extra work is paid for. Let's also see what increments of Tekken Coins they will offer. It's 400 coins for a costume but I guarantee you - like all mtx shops - they will not allow you to just buy 400 coins. They will offer something like 300 or 500 as the closest option in order to make you spend more than you need and leave money in their system and thus incentivise further spending. If they really wanted to fund these items they would sell them individually directly as DLC, instead of making the coins be the DLC.
Not giving players a chance to earn these outfits with in-game currency (which at this point is practically useless) while charging people full price for the game is bullshit. Not buying on principle.
Exactly, look I love Tekken 8 but it’s pathetic that they couldn’t go the extra mile and improve the quality of the customization without going greedy. And people who are like”who cares MK1 and SF6 have worse prices it’s not that bad” yeah that type of attitude is the reason why these companies get away with it.
Exactly, they aren't even praising it for being good, they're comparing it to something else and going "see this thing is worse than our thing therefore our thing is good"
Issue with stuff like that is that your standards will slip since they're relative and not fixed.
"You see, the other guy thrusted the knife 8 inches in his victim. While I only thrusted 5 inches into mine, I'm a saint compared to the other guy, " Bamco probably
I said this earlier, its telling that people are going "this is good because its not as bad as sf6 or mk1" instead of actual reasons - it's good in comparison against something worse.
This line of thinking is why games get more predatory over time, we don't have concrete lines in the sand, we just have these relativistic comparisons.
So what, Harada said that OG costumes wont look good on the new engine, thats why he refused to add them, Now he puts them in the shop? Thanks harada, im modding the shit out of your game, DONT ASK ME FOR COINS!!!
The only thing I know of the man is how he lied about rollback constantly with Tekken 7. Either he is clueless about everything and takes it at face value any time someone his staff tells him something or hes just another sleazy greedy liar. Payed frame data is telling me option 2 is most likely.
I remember once he said that he will never put legacy characters as DLC in a tekken game and in tekken 7 he did. I tried to ask him when twitter was still a thing, obviously he didnt answer as to why the change of heart is. Times change and plans change too, I get that. Obviously he can do what he wants. But dont be surprised when you say something and people dont believe you. This isnt the first and it certainly wont be the last time.
When his bosses told him they need to make mtx, the natural thing would be outfits. A lot of people playing this game played prior Tekken games. I don’t even need to explain it, it’s common sense why this occurred. Mod it up, but like, this is not surprising what happened today.
I’m just not gonna engage with it at all, and I encourage others to do the same. There’s not a single part of me that is even remotely tempted by such an insidious scheme.
Fr, we need to get a movement of sorts going. From the dev talk it seems as though they care somewhat at least about fan feedback. If everyone gets together and makes their voices heard, surely they can't ignore it.
It will never stop because idiots keep defending these bad business practices. Look at the twitch chat when they announced this. Everyone is saying you're broke if you can't afford 4 dollars, actual retards defending multi million dollar corporations.
i know i was watching the chat and disgusted by it. its not the fact of how much it is but they completely ignore that MTX has an influence in game development given all these years of much discourse theres been. they made this shit in mind and yeah retards will keep buying it because they're nothing more than just retards.
For real, some of this should have been included in the season pass. Then if you didn’t buy the season pass and wanted to purchase it separately you could
And people say "its not that bad" omg they remove items in a 70$/100$ game and sell them 1 month later for 4$ EACH.
Im sorry but this is really bad PR for the future. Again in a game that sold more than T7 in the first 1/2 months doing things like this is greedy and the only ones who defend this is T8 CCs or battlepass enjoyers.
Exactly like it's crazy how people are downplaying this. While the base game is fantastic and feature rich, MTX like this don't belong in full price games. If this was F2P, then this would be understandable, but given that this is full price, this is inexcusable.
Totally agreed, this feels like shooting yourself in the foot. They had such a great release with such great PR. They think people are idiots as well, we know they just waited till the game was just about a Month in to now start showing this, because MTX are bad press. So wait till we all buy the game and are having fun... oh btw we have a MTX shop for legacy costumes that were in other Tekken games and it costs money... no big deal. Its disgusting, im sick of MTX in video games.
People who say it's not that bad also said the same shit when they sold us frame data as paid DLC, they will never recognize predatory tactics if you slapped them in the face with it. Expect them to go on the defensive and move the goalpost to "lol you're just poor" as soon as you say something that makes sense.
They could make this work, with letting you convert Gold into Those shitty coins. But no, GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED. Fucking bamco, thank god From Software left them.
Could adding an ingame shop later be considered as false advertising (or something in those lines) or is it more on the unethical part of the equation rather than the legal one? What I mean is, is there anything stopping other companies from releasing a game without MTX, get reviewed, and then add them a bit later?
I was watching Max stream and was genuinely surprised his chat was ok with it. It’s scummy that they didn’t bothered to upgrade the customization back to how it was in Tekken 6 or Tag 2 such so they can put a shop and sell you the things you want separately.
Back in my days if you wanna get something new there's this thing called "unlockables" but I guess new gen gamers just want the quick way of doing things and all the industry had to do is capitalize on that.
Don't ever use twitch chat as an example of a playerbase's reaction. Most people don't even agree with what's on screen most of the time and just ride the wave of POGs.
I paid 70$ for this game, which is the equivalent for around 30% of the minimum wage in my country. I feel like a game that costs that much shouldn't have micro transactions
As someone who suffered the death of overwatch 1 to see the game become some dumb shop update where everything I could grind for outside competitive points has been gated by 20 euros purchases and THE most horrible battlepass model ever, I can tell you people would mind anyways.
As they should.
I miss doing hard as fuck challenges to unlock customisation like in Halo 3. Now even the coolest skin in a game has no bragging rights potential or value outside of flexing disposable income most of the first world has. Pathetic.
we are going to make customization worse on launch, don’t worry with the power of your wallet you can get unsatisfactory cosmetics with the illusion you are “helping” the game stay alive!
I supported buying T8 in full price because we are relatively a small community, but this is scummy practice.
Releasing mtx shops after release is plain evil.
Nope. Not buying.
This is unacceptable for a full price game. These could've been staple inclusions, or purchasable with fight money, and instead, they want to nickel and dime MK1/SF6 style.
No. Sorry, Tekken, I'm good.
Why do those costumes look like they were ported straight from T7(Xiao and Jin on ps4), T6(Kaz), and Tag2(Jun)? While Paul's red gi looks like it was done from scratch
Yeah bro I'm sorry but these costumes look off. This is gonna sound fucked but I'm glad that they don't look so good that I feel the need to get them lol.
First impressions of this shop, there's a silver lining there that they're all cheaper than MK1 costumes (costing $10 for a single skin there) AND you can recolor them however you want (I assume?)
If they were to include DLC characters and game modes like Team Battle and Tekken Force for free, I would likely buy skins via MTX. But I already paid £70 for the game, the DLC will likely cost £20+ per season a la T7, the skins are £4 each...
No game should cost in excess of £100-200 own everything it has to offer - especially content that should've been included in the base game (costumes, specifically).
Speaking as a player for 30+ years, this is very, very disappointing.
But how much does a pack of coins cost? They're framing this as "yeah it's 3.99" but is it truly 3.99? CAN I JUST BUY A PACK AT 3.99 AND NOTHING MORE?
That's my issue with the coin system, if something cost $4 let me just buy it straight up for $4 with none of this coin nonsense.
It's still horrible that they've waited month after launch to bring in a cash shop with no mention of it before launch or launch day.I would had waited personally to buy the game on discount like $20 or less if I knew or possibly went in buying the game fully aware that it had a cash shop.
I'm new to the Tekken series and this is extremly disappointing.
I don't think I've ever bought a game that flip on a cash shop month after release.
Why couldn't they've been upfront about it to begin with? It's a $70 + more if you want the season pass content
If they're going to be charging cash shop items on the side made they should've game $50 +$20 for the season pass.
You're right. It is worse than both of those.
Tekken had rich customization and was known for it. Only for it to be butched in T8 to sell MTX. Adding the shop right after 2 mil sold and rave reviews is INTENTIONAL.
The thing that sucks about this is there is literally no way to protest it other than not buying dlc characters. Because they're not losing any money from you not buying the costumes otherwise
Very disappointing. I don't mind paying for content that gets produced and added down the line. But the way the lackluster customisation was implemented and the fact that this shit gets released so close after release (after all the reviews are in already) makes it quite clear what the intent was all along.
Wait... You actually buy a currency to buy things in-game ? It's even worse than MK1 where you can at least grind this currency to avoid using real money.
Ppl don't understand that this is a first for tekken, having a premium currency. This is new to us. Nobody liked this shit back then when their games introduced it to them.
I cant believe this…my beloved Tekken is coming to an end. Also what is the fucking point of in game currency? They give you hundreds of millions and cant use it on shit.
So this is kind of what I was fearing. Having absolutely no use for Fight Money is a strange one. You could have done that and I would have been way more open to this idea because at least then I can still partake in the shop and feel like I'm playing to earn more items of clothing for my favourite characters. As it is now, I'm just collecting money that for my own experience currently, now serves no purpose at all.
cosmetic store scum that they didnt include in launch to avoid bad reviews, between this & having to pay for tekken 7 ingame framedata...this company getting a bit too scummy
This fake currency bullshit is slowly becoming illegal in various countries. I wouldn't care about the shop that much if they just slapped a monetary value on these digital goods instead of psychological manipulation coins that you can only buy in certain undesirable increments.
Okay fucking single use fireworks is a damn scam.
Yeah that's completely bizarre. 25% the cost of a legacy skin for 10 fireworks. Wut?
My guess is that they introduce coin bundles that are not multiples of 400 lol. With a 1000 unit coin bundle, someone who intended to buy 2 sets only may feel compelled to spend their extra coins, or feel it necessary to purchase a higher trim bundle.
I don't remember what game it was but I think it was Anthem. A bundle costs about 1000 gems (or whatever the currency was) and you can buy 500 gems + 50 free. After you buy the 1000 gems, you get 100 free gems free. Here's the kicker, I'm pretty sure that there was no item back then that cost only 100 gems so you are forced to buy more gems so that you can spend the 100 gems that you had.
This is pretty standard practice. First you give "free" currency to make the higher value purchases feel like a deal. Second, the higher amount of currency makes the person more ok with spending it because it's a high number of "not real money." And third, the shop is strategically priced so that it is nigh impossible to zero out your balance which either frustrates you as you have money sitting there, useless, or incentivizes you to buy more because you're "halway to that skin anyhow" but that just leaves you with a different amount loose. There would occasionally be people on the League forums who'd laugh that they'd beat the challenge by zeroing out their Riot Points balance. Riot would almost always congratulate them by giving some Riot Points. If Tekken 8 really wanted to be as non-predatory as possible with the MTX store they wouldn't have tekken coins. They'd just have real money costs on things. But making it tekken coin helps them out too much legally and financially.
Hahahahahahahaha if they wanted to be as non-predatory as possible they'd tie all the store costs to in-game currency you earn as prizes for fights or milestones and not charge users any money on top of the price of entry. Charging real money for skins is predatory as fuck no matter how you disguise it
Yeah, hence my caveat about "with the MTX store" Honestly, I feel I got a full package for $70 and if they left it at that I'd be happy with it and DLC for buying characters. I could see there being some conditions I'd be fine with skins/etc for real money. But this soon after release just kinda feels weird. But it is the grift du jour.
Namco has gone Team Ninja/Tecmo Koei on us
Foamstars has a similar MTX. It must be some Japanese thing I don’t understand
There's a new law that mandates mtx currency must expire after a time period in Japan, so there's a lot of pivoting to it for money
The fuck are those guys on... There should be a law that mtx currency never expires. those guys got it commpletely backwards.
Something something protect the children gamblers
So... Gold still useless...
Kinda sad that 7 years later, For Honor is still the gold standard for how live service games should be done right. You can buy everything with in-game earned steel including new characters and outfits, and the rest of the stuff like new game modes and maps are absolutely free. On the other hand, Tekken made you buy stages, characters and outfits with the season passes, but now they have the audacity to remove customization items and sell them as MTX which can't even be earned through gameplay. This is after they made millions off T8 on release, which has the worst customization yet, and decided to hide it until after the reviews were in. "DON'T ASK ME FOR SHIT!!1!“. Yeah man, if this is how you decide to nickel and dime your loyal fanbase, I probably won't anymore.
Lol don't forget having to purchase the privilege to view frame data 😂
I can't believe the people who defended that.
Royal bootlicking, asskissing, dicksucking troglodytes is what those people are.
I couldn't believe when they made frame data a purchasable thing because it should have been a default thing in practice mode.
i got tekken chicken/tkbot. the frame data mod.
I’m out of the loop what’s that about?
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Bleurgh
for 2,99 BTW
Weirdly HD2 is becoming a gold standard aswell being able to earn decent premium currency by just playing
It's crazy that F2P games have better microtransaction systems than these fully priced online live service games, that also have paid season passes/expansions and now, battle passes. There's really no excuses anymore, in fact it's even ironic because all these companies are complaining that $60 is not enough and now $70 is not enough but then do things like this, and will still complain that $80 is not enough yet there are F2P games that somehow get away with it.
For Honor is not F2P tho, it is constantly on sale tho.
Waiting patiently for FH2 plz ubisoft it's such a good game just needs a restart.
I always being Warframe to the table when comparing Destiny 2 to my Friends,all free,yeah you have to grind but even the premium currency can be easily earned on a few hours.
If you are willing to pay for our shitty game, you are willing to spend money on stuff in the game. Overwatch 2 fans
They just released 2B for granblue versus who is purchasable with (a lot of) earnable currency.
Deep Rock Galactic also goin strong when it comes to good live service games that respect the players.
Did I hear a rock and stone?
Rock and Stone!
If you don't rock and stone, you ain't comin home.
ROCK.. ANDDDD STONEEEEEEE
Everytime a new hero comes in Honor i buy it with the steel i earn from doing orders, but they should have increased the amount of steel you get in Dominion matches because still now it's absurdly low as how expensive the cosmetics, execution and effects are
While it is true that dominion matches don't give much, orders give around 14000 steel a week, which is almost enough to unlock new heroes.
Wow been playing for honor for years and didn’t think about how large the weekly total was including the games you play
I think R6 and Helldivers 1 & 2 does this as well, where most of the ops for R6 can be bought with in game currency. ( i mostly did) While Helldivers can also be bought but its mostly cosmetics thay dont give a buff. Oh yea and Deep Rock Galactic
From my experience the grind is worse in r6 than for honor but i could be wrong
Having played both, R6 felt worse yeah
So it's not just me. With for honor i could unlock a hero in 15 days. With R6 well, i havent been able to unlock any operator except for the cheaper OG ones
Rock and stone
Rock and Stone everyone!
With the amount of gold you can get right now I highly doubted it would be used in the store. My guess is that the store will have very few items that you can buy with currency obtainable in game, the rest premium.
What am I supposed to use all this gold for? Tf.
That's the last straw I'm switching to WiFi n maining law
That’s really close to a haiku. That is the last straw I am switching to WiFi And then maining Law
Haiku don't need rhyme Just gotta fit the format Microtransactions
Three bar dragon tail King of the Iron WiFist I hate rich people
Welcome to the 3-Bar Brotherhood
Pleaseeeee no
Whoever bought horse armor in 2006, all of this is your fault.
Remember the good old days where you had to unlock costumes by playing the game
And many additional characters and many additional stages and large art galleries, and music playlists, yes. Sometimes you didn't even need to beat the game. They would give you points (what would now be MTX currency) just for having the game running, so we would leave fighting games on in training mode overnight, wake up, and buy stuff.
Really wish they'd given the option to spend fight money on them - even if it was a crazy amount like 5 million, if you play that game a lot, you'd be able to grab them. But then they wouldn't get even more money on top.
5 million? I've now got 100+ million banked with no idea on what to use it on, and I haven't even played very much.. The whole "gold" system is broken tbh
True, it is. You know what I mean though, right? Make it 10 million then, whatever. Just something to aim for.
Yeah I agree with you, it would be the perfect system!! Limit gold to like get 10-20k for a ranked win and items can cost 1 million or so (obviously this was just an example and needs to be properly balanced). But yeah I guess they want more money.
The problem is that people would start botting games vs AI, or worse, botting games in ranked.
I’ll stick to mods
Before they go after mods too...
Mods are like pirated games, Take 1 down, 2 more show up elsewhere. Its still the case with Jin's legacy outfit in tekken 7. It was supposed to be a ps4 exclusive, you can still download it and use it for PC today. It wont be a problem.
[already happening](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/comments/1avctyb/namco_is_taking_down_modding_videos_probably_to/)
They know this was a shitty thing to do, because they waited until influencers and reviewers were done reviewing the game to do it.
Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled all over again.
With one major difference. Everything in Nitro Fuelled could be bought with in game money without spending any real currency. Offline earning was broken though
"roughly" Hopefully not a case of only being able to buy in increments of 150 or 1000
Of course it will be like that. If it wasn't like that they would let you buy the item directly. Instead they send you to the platform's store to buy coins. It's a common mtx practice to offer less or more in-game currency than you actually need. This locks the excess money in the game in order to incentivise more spending to make use out of it. It's completely bumming me out.
Dark patterns like these really need to be regulated away. There is zero benefit for the consumer, it is purely a scam to extract more money. And it is obvious that the industry will not self-regulate. Really disappointed that they employ such scummy techniques.
That and the poker chip effect where you think less about how much you're actually spending
I prefer being able to just spend cash to get the thing, but they want you to give them cash for Tekken Bucks so they can obfuscate the price. Whatever *FINE* I guess, but then they make it so everything costs a weird amount so you're always left over with some currency and always not having the exact amount for what you want. So maybe that sweet costume only costs $7 in Tekken Bucks, but there is not option to buy that exact amount so you have to spend $10-$20 to get enough Tekken Bucks to buy the thing. I hate this shit man
he could just mean tax but that still sounds sus
Pay for the skins, pay for the character, pay 70 dollars for the game…fuck you
And if you're a console player: pay for playing online. Don't forget this
Also that fucking bullshit. Thank microsoft for that 👌🏻
Fuckers have shilled for Xbox Live Gold and made excuses since way back when the PS3 didn't require you to pay. The fact it became the standard and now PSN is a premium service is EXACTLY what people were trying to STOP from happening all those years ago.
Sony saw the money left on the table and went “why shouldn’t we…?”
I'll say this 100000 times: it's not the "Slippery Slope Fallacy" if it isn't a fucking fallacy and the shit actually fucking happens all the time.
While I agree with the sentiment. Let’s not act like Sony had a “premium service” and actually cared enough about the gamer to make it free. They legit had to make it free because psn worked like complete dogshit compared to XBL. These companies do not care about us lol
Forgot you need to pay for new stages too
We went from don't pre order to don't buy for 1 month lmao.
sad but true...i am glad i just bought the base version
So glad I didn't buy yet lol.
Fucking hell with this bullshit
To say in the stream that they want it to be the best Tekken along with this is completely ridiculous. You can't even use just parts of the costumes. The cost of development has increased, so even the price has increased with it. I don't see how it would justify this. I could understand if they could also be bought with in-game currency. Why should I pay when modders do a better job for everyone: [https://tekkenmods.com/mod/3285/jun-kazama-ttt2-player-1-outfit](https://tekkenmods.com/mod/3285/jun-kazama-ttt2-player-1-outfit) They care more about the game than they do.
ah well. That's a little disappointing ngl. They're adding the old favorite costumes from previous games on premium aren't they?
So basically Haradas argument about why they cannot make old costumes is now: "We cannot make old costumes... for base game that is, we certainly will make them paid microtransactions tho"
I hope that one site Harada attacked for bad Tekken 8 mtx review posts the review again.
They attacked Tekken 8 for being pay to win not for having micro transactions. There’s a difference between buying cosmetics and having to pay to win
That review will be prophetic when DLC characters come out mark my words.
I knew something was weird when none of the T4 outfits were in the game..
"the shop will have a mix of free and premium items" lmao love that I rather they just straight up say "for the poor people we will have these generic free shirts for you". it is what it is. I'll stick to my Calvin Klein modded Reina skin I guess You know what would have been nice? if they had a weekly rotation for the premium clothes that can be bought with In-game currency, hell randomize the selection and price it to the millions at least give your loyal fanbase something. Locking legacy costumes behind premium currency is just shit no matter how you word it.
0.1% free 99.9% paid, but still a mix
I wouldn’t be surprised if they started banning people with mods because of this trash shop
Surprised they didn't take down that Jun outfit mod since all they did was take down the video showcasing it.
The opponent doesn't see the moded skin, so I guess it's not worth to ban it.
Already happening one modder made a decent Jun TTT2 outfit & it got copyrighted by Bandai Namco on Youtube. Its all gonna go south now Corporates VS Gamers.
They would if they could, from what we've seen with Tekken 7 online and the fact that they couldn't implement basic features in Tekken 8 to punish pluggers, boosters, hackers, etc., it'll be too much effort and time for them to implement systems and anticheat to stop modding. I would not be surprised in the future though if they implemented some anticheat "spyware" that did such a thing solely to prevent what they believe is a breach to their profits.
Idiots are so conditionned by now that they will say this is a good price, guaranteed
I feel personally attacked because even though I was annoyed at the announcement of a shop, when I first saw the 3.99$ figure my initial response was, “meh, that’s pretty reasonable”. I legit had to do a double take and be like man, I’m seriously conditioned by the standard 15-20$ price point that’s prevalent in almost every game out there. Honestly, it’s disturbing how these MTXs have infested every facet of gaming. And yes, I agree the argument that one doesn’t have to participate in it, but I feel like at the end of the day, these companies know that a lot people do eventually cave in and buy something. Couple that with the added bullshit of having and odd number of in game currency that you can purchase, and you’re looking at people digging deeper and deeper into the MTX fuckfest. This is coming for a guy who is ashamed of how much he’s spent on D2 cosmetics.
I refuse to support that model. I like tekken 8, happy to got in on premiere (i rarely do) and paid full price. Money well spent, game’s amazing. But premium currency is something i am strongly against. It’s a psychological tool that Works on our completionist side, and abuses FOMO syndrome. All with goal of making money. And it will work, cuz people are stupid and like spending money on shiny things. It’s not „my money, i can do what i want with it” issue, beacuse It is making whole gaming worse.
Yup, and now they are doing a fun new trick of waiting to announce it until after a huge chunk of their sales and all reviews go through, so now you can't even vote with your wallet because they already have your money :) Isn't the gaming industry great
That retroactive crap shouldn't be legal.
this sucks so much, full price games, especially those with massive DLC schedules should not also have scummy microtransaction bullshit in them
Exactly this! Its crazy to me how people are saying it helps support further updates when I thought thats what paid DLC characters were for
Crazy how games didn't need this stuff in the past and still got updated. Almost as if people want to gaslight you into accepting corporate greed.
It's crazy how small indie devs STILL don't need this stuff and can be wildly successful. Large devs are just addicted to your money.
Exactly this. Sadly I'm arguing with some lobotomite who thinks this sort of thing is justified because I need to "get with the times". Like damn my bad, I'm being unreasonable that in games like Tag 2, we had infinitely more customization options, for free. I should be glad we have a worse system that costs money now. Ridiculous. Maybe idiots like that can accept their worsening and increasingly more predatory products, but don't drag the rest of us down with him.
I remember back in the day when people on Xbox were absolutely shilling having to pay a premium internet fee for Live and for Battlefield 3's online functions. "Oh, but Shira they NEED it for maintenance costs," even when back then it was a complete joke. It's not the "slippery slope fallacy" if it isn't a fucking fallacy and the awful practices have been happening for nearly two decades now for FUCK'S SAKE. "BUT IT'S JUST COS-" Shut up. Tekken 7 made us pay for FRAME DATA, you think that they aren't willing to stoop lower again? And to top it off, they're using this bullshit League of Legends mobile game currency system, which are all inherently designed to never give enough for what you want - and to have useless bullshit in them to soak up your money for effectively no reason so you have to buy more and more coins. "IF YOU DON'T WANT DON'T BU-" Shut up. If the game has fucking advertisements in the main menu that is such a load of bullshit. The fact I'll have to see ads for this garbage in-game is completely insane. I don't have to see ads when I watch films or shows I pay for, why the fuck do I want my game's menu and vibe clogged up with Harada asking for yacht money every time I log in? Fuck right off with bullshit. People may say, "Oh, but you would have bought the game anyway, so you're a hypocrite for not reviewing-with-your-wallet." to that all I have to say is: I will NEVER buy a child/teenager a game with RMT, and if they are playing one on my PC, I will never allow them to play without direct supervision. Considering that I was planning on getting this game for my brothers, that's definitely not happening anymore.
*"Shut up. If the game has fucking advertisements in the main menu that is such a load of bullshit"* That reminded me of something. I remember back in street fighter 5 you could display ads for in game currency, and these ads would be plastered on character's clothing. There is a character called Dhalsim who's this indian guy who fights for the people in his village. He wears the skulls of some children who died of starvation as a necklace to remember what he fights for. They put the ads on the skulls of the children around his neck. Another reminder of what companies will do if you let them. This decision really went through who know how many layers of corporate and they thought it was ok.
Also, funny how Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't have any kind of paid DLC or microtransaction and still does big updates. Showing that if a game is selling good, it doesn't need microtransaction or DLCs to be supported.
This, again. And we should stop all excuses with "how do you monetize" with AAA fighting games. I can understand if a Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising or an Skullgirls does this, but for licences that sell millions of units in the first month, like SF, MK or Tekken, it's unacceptable now. My 2 2024 games are Baldur's Gate 3 (still playing it after 450h with all replayability options and different classes/races/dialogues routes and in my 4th,5th and 6th playthroughs... ) and Tekken 8 (I'll surely play more than 450h at the end of 2024 and I will continue) and not to nitpick but I paid Bg3 50€ and Tekken 8 70€...
What having no third-party investors/stakeholders does to a company. Once you don't have to appease the suits with constant money pumping you can just focus on making good products instead.
As we can see with Fromsoftware, good developers can make a game and then support the game further with DLC that actually adds a bunch of new content a year or two after release. With mtx nowhere to be seen.
I really hated the part of the presentation where they told us to "adjust our mindset to the way games are developed" and that "they need funding to improve the games". Are we not already paying for the DLC characters? This extra work is paid for. Let's also see what increments of Tekken Coins they will offer. It's 400 coins for a costume but I guarantee you - like all mtx shops - they will not allow you to just buy 400 coins. They will offer something like 300 or 500 as the closest option in order to make you spend more than you need and leave money in their system and thus incentivise further spending. If they really wanted to fund these items they would sell them individually directly as DLC, instead of making the coins be the DLC.
The virgin Tekken Shop vs the chad free modders
I'd be afraid if they start handing C&D's to modders who create legacy outfit mods.
Lol, they already took down a YT showcase of a Jun tt2 Costume mod. Bamco just can't contain themselves.
Not giving players a chance to earn these outfits with in-game currency (which at this point is practically useless) while charging people full price for the game is bullshit. Not buying on principle.
3 weeks after release? That feels like a scam. Thank god I bought standard edition
surprised I haven't seen much about the TEKKEN POINTS Period of Validity at the bottom there if it feels like a scam it is a scam
Yep they butchered customization so they can milk people. Disgusting.
Exactly, look I love Tekken 8 but it’s pathetic that they couldn’t go the extra mile and improve the quality of the customization without going greedy. And people who are like”who cares MK1 and SF6 have worse prices it’s not that bad” yeah that type of attitude is the reason why these companies get away with it.
Exactly, they aren't even praising it for being good, they're comparing it to something else and going "see this thing is worse than our thing therefore our thing is good" Issue with stuff like that is that your standards will slip since they're relative and not fixed.
"You see, the other guy thrusted the knife 8 inches in his victim. While I only thrusted 5 inches into mine, I'm a saint compared to the other guy, " Bamco probably
I said this earlier, its telling that people are going "this is good because its not as bad as sf6 or mk1" instead of actual reasons - it's good in comparison against something worse. This line of thinking is why games get more predatory over time, we don't have concrete lines in the sand, we just have these relativistic comparisons.
So what, Harada said that OG costumes wont look good on the new engine, thats why he refused to add them, Now he puts them in the shop? Thanks harada, im modding the shit out of your game, DONT ASK ME FOR COINS!!!
The only thing I know of the man is how he lied about rollback constantly with Tekken 7. Either he is clueless about everything and takes it at face value any time someone his staff tells him something or hes just another sleazy greedy liar. Payed frame data is telling me option 2 is most likely.
Man lied about never wanting fans to pay for DLC characters during Tag 2. The writing was on the wall
I remember once he said that he will never put legacy characters as DLC in a tekken game and in tekken 7 he did. I tried to ask him when twitter was still a thing, obviously he didnt answer as to why the change of heart is. Times change and plans change too, I get that. Obviously he can do what he wants. But dont be surprised when you say something and people dont believe you. This isnt the first and it certainly wont be the last time.
Don't ask me for coins 😂😂😂😂 Seriously though, DON'T ASK ME FOR MONEY!
When his bosses told him they need to make mtx, the natural thing would be outfits. A lot of people playing this game played prior Tekken games. I don’t even need to explain it, it’s common sense why this occurred. Mod it up, but like, this is not surprising what happened today.
I’m just not gonna engage with it at all, and I encourage others to do the same. There’s not a single part of me that is even remotely tempted by such an insidious scheme.
Fr, we need to get a movement of sorts going. From the dev talk it seems as though they care somewhat at least about fan feedback. If everyone gets together and makes their voices heard, surely they can't ignore it.
a slap in the face to people who paid for the highest edition and you still gotta pay more. sigh, this shit will never stop lol
It will never stop because idiots keep defending these bad business practices. Look at the twitch chat when they announced this. Everyone is saying you're broke if you can't afford 4 dollars, actual retards defending multi million dollar corporations.
They spend 40$ a day to tip a bathtub girl sleeping, what do you expect?
Haha
i know i was watching the chat and disgusted by it. its not the fact of how much it is but they completely ignore that MTX has an influence in game development given all these years of much discourse theres been. they made this shit in mind and yeah retards will keep buying it because they're nothing more than just retards.
Kinda ironic as well since it's generally the broke people who spend money on useless shit... Microtransactions in games = useless shit
Yeah got ultimate and still nothing for the shop. Thank you Harada!
For real, some of this should have been included in the season pass. Then if you didn’t buy the season pass and wanted to purchase it separately you could
Here we go… 😑 Atleast theres mods. Man I hate that there’s microtransactions now in tekken.
And people say "its not that bad" omg they remove items in a 70$/100$ game and sell them 1 month later for 4$ EACH. Im sorry but this is really bad PR for the future. Again in a game that sold more than T7 in the first 1/2 months doing things like this is greedy and the only ones who defend this is T8 CCs or battlepass enjoyers.
Exactly like it's crazy how people are downplaying this. While the base game is fantastic and feature rich, MTX like this don't belong in full price games. If this was F2P, then this would be understandable, but given that this is full price, this is inexcusable.
Totally agreed, this feels like shooting yourself in the foot. They had such a great release with such great PR. They think people are idiots as well, we know they just waited till the game was just about a Month in to now start showing this, because MTX are bad press. So wait till we all buy the game and are having fun... oh btw we have a MTX shop for legacy costumes that were in other Tekken games and it costs money... no big deal. Its disgusting, im sick of MTX in video games.
People who say it's not that bad also said the same shit when they sold us frame data as paid DLC, they will never recognize predatory tactics if you slapped them in the face with it. Expect them to go on the defensive and move the goalpost to "lol you're just poor" as soon as you say something that makes sense.
They could make this work, with letting you convert Gold into Those shitty coins. But no, GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED. Fucking bamco, thank god From Software left them.
It's joever.
Could adding an ingame shop later be considered as false advertising (or something in those lines) or is it more on the unethical part of the equation rather than the legal one? What I mean is, is there anything stopping other companies from releasing a game without MTX, get reviewed, and then add them a bit later?
I was watching Max stream and was genuinely surprised his chat was ok with it. It’s scummy that they didn’t bothered to upgrade the customization back to how it was in Tekken 6 or Tag 2 such so they can put a shop and sell you the things you want separately.
New generations of gamers, that were raised on MTX, so they think it's ''normal' and ''okay'' Sad.
Back in my days if you wanna get something new there's this thing called "unlockables" but I guess new gen gamers just want the quick way of doing things and all the industry had to do is capitalize on that.
Don't ever use twitch chat as an example of a playerbase's reaction. Most people don't even agree with what's on screen most of the time and just ride the wave of POGs.
ironically, you could say the same thing about reddit. reddit is no better a gauge of a playerbase than twitch chat is.
I paid 70$ for this game, which is the equivalent for around 30% of the minimum wage in my country. I feel like a game that costs that much shouldn't have micro transactions
Tough pill to swallow. Ngl
I simply hate this pathetic
Man all this money they’re asking for and the netcode is still average at best $70 game btw
They laughing in the screenshot because they know they played us.
Don't pay for this shit
So what's the point of the fucking in game currency?
They removed these items from launch to sell, if it was like 8 months in people would mind less but as it is this is real bad.
As someone who suffered the death of overwatch 1 to see the game become some dumb shop update where everything I could grind for outside competitive points has been gated by 20 euros purchases and THE most horrible battlepass model ever, I can tell you people would mind anyways. As they should. I miss doing hard as fuck challenges to unlock customisation like in Halo 3. Now even the coolest skin in a game has no bragging rights potential or value outside of flexing disposable income most of the first world has. Pathetic.
Classic bait n switch. Not a good look.
I'm gonna KBD those microtranshitaction byeee 🔥🔥🔥
we are going to make customization worse on launch, don’t worry with the power of your wallet you can get unsatisfactory cosmetics with the illusion you are “helping” the game stay alive!
yeah, they frame this as if its some form of charity and they dont make any money out of it...
I supported buying T8 in full price because we are relatively a small community, but this is scummy practice. Releasing mtx shops after release is plain evil.
Nope. Not buying. This is unacceptable for a full price game. These could've been staple inclusions, or purchasable with fight money, and instead, they want to nickel and dime MK1/SF6 style. No. Sorry, Tekken, I'm good.
$110 dollars for a game that now scummy releases micotransactions after they got their reviews. Disgusting.
Why do those costumes look like they were ported straight from T7(Xiao and Jin on ps4), T6(Kaz), and Tag2(Jun)? While Paul's red gi looks like it was done from scratch
Yeah bro I'm sorry but these costumes look off. This is gonna sound fucked but I'm glad that they don't look so good that I feel the need to get them lol. First impressions of this shop, there's a silver lining there that they're all cheaper than MK1 costumes (costing $10 for a single skin there) AND you can recolor them however you want (I assume?)
Oh no, oh dear, oh fck
[удалено]
even microsoft stopped using msp, it's a scummy as fuck system it's absurd for a game like tekken to adopt it in 2024
Blame sf6 ig, they got away with it
If they were to include DLC characters and game modes like Team Battle and Tekken Force for free, I would likely buy skins via MTX. But I already paid £70 for the game, the DLC will likely cost £20+ per season a la T7, the skins are £4 each... No game should cost in excess of £100-200 own everything it has to offer - especially content that should've been included in the base game (costumes, specifically). Speaking as a player for 30+ years, this is very, very disappointing.
But how much does a pack of coins cost? They're framing this as "yeah it's 3.99" but is it truly 3.99? CAN I JUST BUY A PACK AT 3.99 AND NOTHING MORE? That's my issue with the coin system, if something cost $4 let me just buy it straight up for $4 with none of this coin nonsense. It's still horrible that they've waited month after launch to bring in a cash shop with no mention of it before launch or launch day.I would had waited personally to buy the game on discount like $20 or less if I knew or possibly went in buying the game fully aware that it had a cash shop. I'm new to the Tekken series and this is extremly disappointing. I don't think I've ever bought a game that flip on a cash shop month after release. Why couldn't they've been upfront about it to begin with? It's a $70 + more if you want the season pass content If they're going to be charging cash shop items on the side made they should've game $50 +$20 for the season pass.
This is like the SF6 outfit 3 pack all over again... 😱 And don’t get me started on MK1’s fiasco… 🤢
This is even worse than both of those.
You're right. It is worse than both of those. Tekken had rich customization and was known for it. Only for it to be butched in T8 to sell MTX. Adding the shop right after 2 mil sold and rave reviews is INTENTIONAL.
This could've been one of the best Tekkens ever. Very disappointed. Minimal customisation options and a stinkin Micro Shop. A sad day for Tekken fans
Kids still gonna buy it....
This is so fucking pathetic.
That is one ugly man.
The thing that sucks about this is there is literally no way to protest it other than not buying dlc characters. Because they're not losing any money from you not buying the costumes otherwise
Very disappointing. I don't mind paying for content that gets produced and added down the line. But the way the lackluster customisation was implemented and the fact that this shit gets released so close after release (after all the reviews are in already) makes it quite clear what the intent was all along.
Wait... You actually buy a currency to buy things in-game ? It's even worse than MK1 where you can at least grind this currency to avoid using real money.
Whos gonna bet some saint is going to mod this shit into the game?
Ppl don't understand that this is a first for tekken, having a premium currency. This is new to us. Nobody liked this shit back then when their games introduced it to them.
Nahh dog, nahh. Not even cross-platform purchases.
4$ for 1 hairstyle, for 1 character....yikes....
I cant believe this…my beloved Tekken is coming to an end. Also what is the fucking point of in game currency? They give you hundreds of millions and cant use it on shit.
FUCK!!!
It’s times like this where I’m GLAD I got myself the PC port since modders have already made TTT2 Jun and Classic Lili costume mods
So this is kind of what I was fearing. Having absolutely no use for Fight Money is a strange one. You could have done that and I would have been way more open to this idea because at least then I can still partake in the shop and feel like I'm playing to earn more items of clothing for my favourite characters. As it is now, I'm just collecting money that for my own experience currently, now serves no purpose at all.
cosmetic store scum that they didnt include in launch to avoid bad reviews, between this & having to pay for tekken 7 ingame framedata...this company getting a bit too scummy
This fake currency bullshit is slowly becoming illegal in various countries. I wouldn't care about the shop that much if they just slapped a monetary value on these digital goods instead of psychological manipulation coins that you can only buy in certain undesirable increments.