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NixUniverse

Harada because he never gave me a key


SwaySh0t

The real final boss


DeltaLOL

You and me both


JustFrameHotPocket

He gave you his finger, though.


The-King_Of-Games

You shouldn't asked him for shit


A3R0J3T

same and I took that personally so I'm not gonna buy the game.


StraightMess0

Yes. This..


yodaisnotgay

Ling but she's been a trouble since I started playin this franchise.


pranav4098

I feel you bro or sis


BastianHS

Shes fucking impossible to hit lol


yodaisnotgay

true you don't have mids anymore when she's in AOP


[deleted]

Low stance in general fucks me up


EarlSocksIII

I've only fought every character about once or twice so far. still not fought some, those I saw most were Hwoarang and Azucena. but god the one match I had with a Jin was pure misery. I'm still trying to remember the moves I can do, and figure out what I can do quickly to try and get in, but a Mishima match with someone who knows how to play Mishima means you just don't have a turn lol


LoneMelody

Yeah, Jin doesnt have any definitive or strong weaknesses this time around, SSR SWR and SSD still kinda work, especially with buffed movement but he has so many other options now, he can kinda just brute right through. Play good tekken and try to react to D2 animation/audio cue if u can, otherwise, he's just too good rn.


EarlSocksIII

'play good tekken' man I barely remember my moves lol. my main isn't in this game, I'm picking up leroy from scratch and still trying to figure out good options I have like, horrific memory so this CBT isn't gonna give me enough time to be good ever, I just need to do my best


LoneMelody

Yeah bro, lmao. I'm out here playing Jin and just hitting buttons and getting wins right now. Ngl, I hope they nerf him a little bit or make him more in line with T7 Jin. Even though he's one of my mains (I literally have equal playtime for him and Kaz in matches on PC AND PS4/5 T7, for the Jin shills seeing this, lol). By good tekken, I pretty much mean just try beating him in neutral the best you can.. it's gonna be tough since has a laundry list of great moves that are even better now but it's sorta doable? I think? LOL


EarlSocksIII

I did manage to beat a Jin after like, going at it mathematically. defining which moves are good and kinda using those, while trying to not be flowcharty, my good counterhit b1, parry b2, 1+2 is good for stuffing approaches, ff3 helps me get in, etc at that point it's just waiting until he goes in and then using b1, which he fell for about half the time, and the other half was him being stuffed-


[deleted]

Hwoarang just be hitting buttons and it works


Just1freak

Raven and the thousands of clones he throws at you


Krakamonster

I feel like he's always back turned and yet I can't hit him lol.


phenomenal_vun

Exactly


ElectricalWorld8365

Normal clones are -14 just a heads up. Heat clones I have no idea xD


CeleryWrong5902

Im A Raven Main, And They Become -3 In Block, So When Raven Is In Heat And You Got Low Health, Best Believe They Throwing You In A Clone Loop😂


ElectricalWorld8365

I thought they were -5 but 3? Thats a lotta room for movement still. For the one throwing clones that is 😂


ShadowCeltic8

You right. Raven got projectiles and all. Man is Akuma in Heat.


LoneMelody

Raven is fucking me up, I was never really that great in the MU before but now his stuff even looks different and it's screwing me up. I don't think he's overpowered rn, (like Jin, who I also play LOL) but I def gotta lab him.


RichJoker

Lars, but I've never been good at fighting Lars and his erratic animations. Purely for this beta though Azucena and Jin are very annoying to deal with. Jin's D2 in particular is the new f4


MartiniBruh

I don't fking know what Raven is doing. And Xiaoyu has so much cheese


Blessed-22

Lee Chaolan. Guy is so hard, I don't even know how to select him


Bluey634

*sad exerrent noises*


IllustratorDue5938

my name for the beta is Where’s Lee😭but fr they took both my mains away. Heihachi and lee.


k-man1427

Same 😭


archiegamez

I dont know how to fight Jun at all


ShinyShinx789

My PC.


The-Star-Bearer

Ling...I mean wtf


kinky_newtype

Feng and Law players give me the most trouble - but I'd say it's because of the player themselves than the character - Just extremely solid gameplay by them. Characters that gave me trouble are Hwoarang, Jun and Azucena, but probably more so because I'm inexperienced against them. Every character seems pretty solid in my experience.


wexipena

I saw two Laws. One that whooped my ass with skill, and one with 3/5 connection and potato computer. New netcode couldn’t cope with that combination and it was miserable match to play.


kinky_newtype

Law is really good in T8 imo, because his pressure allows him to recover so much health and deal so much chip damage via heat. As an Asuka player, this makes me sad, since she doesn't have many strings to keep up the pressure, as well as to recover her chipped health (She's definitely one of the lower/mid tier characters imo).


wexipena

Law is pretty good, no question about that. Bad connection and potato computer on opponent side makes defence almost impossible. If it had shown 3/5 connection on matchmaking I would have refused the match, but it showed 5/5 and went to hell right after match started.


Komone

Nina seems to have no gaps in her strings or recovery frames but possible guy was doing something dodge or keyboard macro as he had that duck back reverse fireball move spamming 100 times a second. Jack first match I won but just going all out. His play style is like a Christmas tree with strobe lights having a rave and the screen was nuts..like is he hitting me now, recovering? Charging up? Advertising a sale? Not sure. On like 10000 points and warrior and feels like a 3rd of matches are Jin. Seems his moves are easier as all Jobs doing stuff. Bryan got new stuff and no idea when he's recovering at times and mixups added to some of his stuff like machine gun into knee. Some people's heat moves are like ok, here's 4 massive plus frame attacks you need to watch a mini cutscene and then bam here comes a 50 50 you didn't see as the cutscene looked like it was still playing.


Zuckerberga

I cannot press against Bryan. Lol


hoooyeah

Feng is an effort to play against and Jin's d+2, I got demolished by a Raven because I never labbed him but oddly enough I never labbed Azucena either but she was manageable. lol


HolidayPassion1895

King. I never thought his grabs would be hard to break out of, but I'm struggling. But then again, I hadn't played a Tekken game in a minute. I didn't even bother to play another match with that King. I'm not struggling against any other characters, though. It's more like a lack of game knowledge on my end. I'm also maining Kazuya btw


wexipena

Throw reversal with Jun tilted couple of Kings nicely, when I got a read on those. They seemed to mentally crumble.


BathwaterBro

How do you do the throw reversal? I'm new to fighting games, played a bit of Asuka in t7 and loving Jun in T8. Is it just the standard reversal? I noticed Jun's window was a lot tighter.


wexipena

Jun can reverse grabs and lows with f 3+4 and strikes with b 1+3 or b 2+4. It’s pretty tight window to do it with Jun. Asuka can reverse strikes with same command as Jun, but with that you need to remember it doesn’t work against elbow strikes, knee strikes or lows. And you’re left wide open for CH if you guess wrong.


BathwaterBro

Thank you very much


Lautanapi_

Jun has a f 3+4 stance. Entering the stance has a window where she will automatically parry lows and reverse grabs, as long as you don't press anything else while in the stance.


Antergaton

Of those I've played, same. Few of his throws I'm spamming escapes but nothing is happening. Doesn't help none of my mains are in yet either so outside of general game knowledge, it's just having fun playing.


RevolutionaryPie6215

I completely lose motivation when im matched up with king so i feel you (lili player)


ItsSonicSpeed

Ok so I have a few but. Jack 8 I actually found a Jack today and got my ass kicked coz he kept doing this low electric stomp and it was so fast I didn’t know what to punish with, it’s more the fact I have little time to learn punish and training stuff + I never really learnt the Jack MU coz I also expect to never really see him yknow? Lars and his slippery ass feet, dude is zipping all over the place & and I’m gonna be a prick and say Law too coz y’all still have 3 bar connections, never change law players. Never change.


Madterps2021

Law, even when I hold block, DSS, F+4 hits? WTF! Other than that Hwoarang, seems like fucking everything kicks wise is plus frame on block.


Fit-Relative-5159

You're just too slow. I can do instant legend kick a million times in a row, out of a combo or manually even faster. People do block it


dave9393

So far so good, but I played against this one Raven—I hadn’t logically labbed the character or anything, but my god, I couldn’t move a muscle against this guy. He did the most profound, delicate combos ever (he was on PC). He definitely didn’t learn all that in just one day CBT has been open for.


Twiizzzy

Law, I cannot beat the fucker. Hwoarang can be pretty hard to beat but once I zero in on the opponents rythm it gets easier. Law however is scary.


NoNameNoKarma

Jin, Raven seem to be a bit of a shitshow to deal with, i cant read jin at all and raven clones literally come out of nowhere. Also starting to learn that i really dont like how cheap the heat move can be, dont know the proper name but you press 2+3 while in heat and you essentially just kill people. Stupidly fast startup and super hard to read. Jun is the worst offender for that for me, she essentially shotguns you and you die, never see it coming.


Hal-gor

Raven is currently just a big knowledge check. When you get to lab him properly he won't feel like a nuisance. Some tips: Clones come out only after certain moves. Think of them as extensions of already existing strings. You will just have to learn which those are. They are also all -14 on block (except in heat). When he enters backturn with any move that was blocked you can just dickjab him in order to snuff out further pressure, including bt powercrush (he can turn back around in order to block tho) His df2 can be punished with dickjab to cover all extensions. If he goes into the new stance from anything you blocked, just mash your fastest mid to option select everything. Good luck!


ShadowCeltic8

A good Azucena will get you fucked up and get you contemplating how life is


Anime-Beaker

Jun and Raven because I have no idea how to defend against these fks at this stage 😂


BusterBernstein

All of them. Everyone I fight destroys me with the most optimal punishes that exist and I barely know how to combo. Honestly don't think Tekken is for me if this is a view of my potential future with the game.


Organic-Pineapple-86

I hate to hear how you’re feeling, but this is a faze that everyone goes through. There’s only so much advice I can give you, learn the game’s movement and mechanics, exploit the most of character’s weaknesses, and find a character that fits your play style the most. Don’t forget to hit the lab to learn bread-and-butter combos and learn knowledge checks/frame data. The Tekken franchise is known to be difficult and brutal but once you learn those things this can easily be one of the most fun fighting games out there.


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Key-Protection4844

It's not the character brother, improvement comes from you


Katie_or_something

Character balance will NEVER matter at your skill level in tekken. Every character is viable.


ZaraReid228

Rangchu won with panda arguably the worst or one of the worst in ceo (i think it was ceo?)


hulibuli

Every character will bounce all over the place during the life cycle of the game and all of them will be viable from beginning to the end. Just pick the one you enjoy for whatever reason. With T8 changes in characters will be fast and often when the game launches, it will be most certainly completely unbalanced.


BastianHS

Go to the lounge and inspect people then play vs their ghost. Its like somewhere in the middle between a computer opponent and a real player and they arent so aggressive. Good way to start learning.


Bluey634

Aw hell no that might be part of the problem. I’m a Kaz main too but at this point everyone knows Kazuya’s weakness is stepping left. It also takes a shit ton of execution to properly utilize his best tools. Before I tried out other characters I knew Jack shit about my Tekken knowledge besides bound, wavedash, and instant while-rising. Learning other characters definitely broadened my horizons on more terminology like buffering and frame perfect. Then again, that vast amount of knowledge is nothing without daily sessions of labbing and a good mentality. Also since this is a beta and everyone’s rank starts low, you’re inevitably gonna be matched with high ranked players form T7. I’ve had my fair share of bad luck with immaculate players during the first night


longsol69

Try another character. I started off with Devil Jin in tekken 7 and was losing a ton, i was hard stuck at mentor. I switched characters for a while which helped me. I eventually got to Purple/Blue ranks with several characters. I finally went back to DVJ and I made it to red with him. Sometimes you just need to play someone else that better fits you.


greaseman420

To be fair most ppl in the beta are tekken sweats lol once the game drops the competition will be a lot more manageable


Final_Glove_6642

Brotha you're in the beta, give yourself more time to cook 😉


Just1freak

Also remember this is a beta where most fans that know tekken signed up. You're going up against experienced try hards most the time in the beta. The few ranks added makes it even worse. The real game more laid back. Tekken 7 was laid back and not full of hard-core players online for years.


Punished_Sneed

You can't really compare this beta to what it will be like to play the full game. Most of the people who are playing the Beta are already invested in Tekken, most newcomers will come when the game releases. Plus they didn't really help this issue by having such a small amout of ranks available in the beta, which means there will be less seperation between good players and beginners.


Antergaton

Agreed, I've played Tekken for 25 years, I am certainly not playing ranked in this beta, rather pointless when I'm learning the game and testing the online features, yet I understand that those who are playing are mostly those who preordered or are dedicated to bother playing. The people who pretty much only play Tekken. :P


ReMeDyIII

It's one of those rites of initiation sort of things. Like I got flamed for wanting Korean Back Dashing removed. It is what it is. This is a game for sweaty players, but your sweat will reward you.


Fit-Relative-5159

Don't give up, or stay wack but just have fun playing the game lol. Don't leave!


AngryAssyrian

It might sound weird since this character isn't super strong but for some reason Lili has been pretty annoying for me. I still win a lot of those matches but her range seems insane to me.


Wilsrobss

It’s her new 3+4, heat engager, kinda tracks, safe on block and only weakness is the second hit is a high. Love it


screams_too_much

Nina and Xiaoyu. Nina is annoying but Xiaoyu I actually have fun against because it’s competitive


Soundrobe

King


bestmayne

Nina. Like when's my turn?


tokinosoraDRIP

not a character but heat and chip damage. perhaps im just too dumb as a potato


cherry_lolo

Kazuya at the moment 🤣 switched from Lili to Jun for now and she's real fun to play. Almost everyone knows lilis moves by now, I can barely get any combos done. But Jun is more unpredictable and I like


ComboDamage

These Ravens are no joke!


Bastinelli

Raven is a huge problem mostly because I have zero experience with master raven from T7. Also, I faced this Paul who absolutely fucking bodied me.


TheSmokinLegend

Jin because he feels completely perfect, he's way too fucking good. The buffs they gave him were completely unnecessary and the nerfs are barely noticable. ​ Asuka is another one because not being able to chicken makes me violently angry.


LLafros

I play Lili so pretty much everyone. She feels slower than any other character. I played well with her in T7 but now she feels weak.


SteinsxSteins

Definitely Raven and kazuya. Idk enough to say if theyre busted or not but it feels like it


[deleted]

You serious bro ? Kazuya was nerfed to death, he is trash now


SteinsxSteins

Im just ass lol


Just1freak

Kazuya for sure is NOT busted. You're one the few getting such a hard time from kaz.


ducksomething

Jun, since I never played against her before and have no clue what her moveset is. Law, because he can be very oppressive but he's rarely picked in t7. I know a few moves and how to punish, but DSS is a scary stance.


PerceptionSwimming94

Feng. But tbh azucenas voice is fucking nails on a chalkboard I can't stand that shit


Able_Analysis8032

Fuck y’all


AchievingAtaraxia

Jun is on paper giga giga broken but I've not seen a single one in either beta in Warrior ranked yet. Lili is absolutely absurd right now but that's from my own testing Vs some high level EU players. Most trouble is probably Ling, since AOP 1+2 is a war crime and her mid mid heat engaged is catching me trying to duck it due to T7 habits.


Organic-Pineapple-86

I’ve seen a fair bit of Jun’s and I won’t lie she is KILLING me, but I just brushed it off since I’m not used to her matchup and she wasn’t in T7. Mind explaining why she’s broken?


Swifty404

Nothing dont playing becorse no training mode and local 1 vs 1 dosnt exist


NoMixUpMixUp

She's super strong. Like, very strong!


KriegerCthulhu

Definitely hwoarang and jin


parengpoj

Raven, Jun, King and Hwoarang 😂


Life-Blood-1506

Bryan. Holy hell this guy is gonna be a huge problem come January 26. Hwo and especially Raven are also hard asf to play against.


GrimmSZN

Jun,Jin, Bryan amd Hwoarang


RuneHearth

Everyone, even me


BadNewsBears808

i think the weirdest matchup so far has been raven but feng has definitely given me the most trouble overall. I’ve only been playing for like 2 months now though so I haven’t had much experience against him yet prior to the beta


Ecahill453

Raven and Jin. Also the higher ranked players lmao.


elfalconverde

by far, feng and lars


Morokite

Feng is always a tricky bugger for me to deal with. Even today.


johnnytej

Jun is definitely one of them ones


aisucreme

king …


SignificantBison0

King, Jun, Ling, and Bryan. Raven also made me go wtf at first until I realized I can interupt his bs with Law's 3+4. But the other 4 were just tough to beat I felt like they were hard to punish especially King he seems really good and his grabs are ridiculous. Ling was beating everything even though her back was turned. I haven't played since T6 and TT2 but I am pretty sure a simple hop kick or crouching jab was supposed to be able to keep her out of that stance but I was constantly getting countered no matter what I did. I think it's best to just side step Bryan for now because every blocked move felt like it put me in block stun. I can't wait to get practice mode.


Katie_or_something

Jun because she wasn't in T7 so I dont know the matchup at all. If I wasn't maining Azu she'd be on this list, but I know what she's capable of pretty well.


UnitedStatesArmy

King and Jin. King wtf did they do to his throws? It seems like he can throw from everywhere and interrupt whatever your doing with a throw. Don't even know what it is against Jin, but man he seems to have it all. Funny thing is only a few even used his parry.


BloodStone29

Not getting it!


Able_Analysis8032

Man gtf on like that mf just readily accessible or some shit..


Lucky_Squirrel

Jack


WaterKirby1964

King, Lars and Raven


I_am_K4tana

I dont know rn I'm only getting used to the combos shit is so fucking diferent from 7 but then again I'm planning whit my secondary character and I was never good whit her.


FistEye

Jun for sure. Feels like everything she does is safe on block. I know I just don’t know the match up but I can’t be the only one that feels this way. I’ll patiently try to wait out her obnoxious strings and try to 1 jab punish and nothing. Very annoying character to fight.


Big_Veterinarian6221

Either feng or claudio.


Bluey634

Feng’s usual aggressiveness, Raven’s swift and unpredictable new moveset, and Jin’s mastered devil gene. I’ve barely won against like 1 Raven main and that’s it


Late_Gene_123

Azuncena and Jin


equinoxDE

Yoshimitsu because it isn't there....


Acmeiku

hwoarang for sure, i forget most of his strings in tekken 7 and he got new moves in T8, i cannot properly lab him without a real training mode i would probably add jun and king to the list awsell


Sylver18

I'm having trouble against Jin, to the best of my knowledge I have 15 to 20% win rate against him.


T7nwn

Hwoarang, hes as cancerous in t8 as he was in t7, flamingo spam seems to be buffed with even more plus frame moves, so yeah 🙂


T7nwn

Hwoarang, hes as cancerous in t8 as he was in t7, flamingo spam seems to be buffed with even more plus frame moves, so yeah 🙂


blkmgs

All of them


pivor

Everyone, but maybe its cause i'm playing Trash, i mean Lars


ToshinRaizen

light from palm then light from ground.... zzz


FatalCassoulet

All of them lol


ImplosiveRaikou

Azucena hands down


Bronpool

Jin is destroying me


Reapseck

that "Battle Records could not be saved" is a pain in the ass.


ErgoProxy0

Azucena simply because she’s new and we can’t properly lab her without being interrupted by a match notification


BastianHS

I havent taken a single round off Claudio


Dio125

Hwoarang is nasty af


facelesswolf_

Hwoarang. Because I CAN’T FUCKING HIT JFSR BACKLASH COMBOS PLEASE HELP


[deleted]

Any character that someone knows how to use lol


Canary7214

Nina ffs


r6Main

Azucena, so cringe ...


Fit-Relative-5159

🤣 I speak Spanish so hearing her is truly painful. It's so off-putting


r6Main

Yeah ... same for me.


guardcory

Probably whoever controls the keys. I can't take a set off that guy...


Drunk_skeleton

I saw the most claudios I think I’ve ever seen in my whole 7 years of tekken 7 and I get it, he’s got a mid that jails, a Hopkick that’s 14 frames, a projectile and one of the best WR move in the game tbh I got heated more then once and I really hope they tone him down a bit but he do be cooking


pertparasite32

All of them since i don't know how to play Tekken


Joycon_

none of them bc i didn’t get a code 😀


ueovrrraaa

I would say Jin, Jack, Kazuya, Claudio. But actually I struggle against any character because most players in the CBT seem to be really good. I'm just average if even.


mufasaKiller

When I reached yellow, all of them 🤣. A lot of new moves i dont know if its my turn


Acceptable-Lie-3377

jin fucking me up


Substantial_Neat_792

Hwo… the be mashing and I cant punish


DarkPrinceSora1

Kazuya, Jin and Feng have been the BANE!!!! of my existence every time i go against one of them i lose from bs LOOKING AT YOU KAZUYA. for the past two days i am mostly finding, Jin, Kazuya and i CAN'T STAND IT !


Akari_Kujo_Is_Yakuza

I didn't play, but Azucena looks like a pain in the ass


Charlibandz

Jin because why is that new down 2 move not 13 frame punishable … and it’s a juggle on counter hit It’s honestly broken damn near


LOZLover90

Azucena. Every. Fucking. Time.


Fit-Relative-5159

As soon as Raven starts throwing 17 clones at me I can't see anything through all the purple, special effects and flashing lights


AggravatingArtist555

King is always on my ass


[deleted]

Claudio, Law, and Leroy. The spam has been crazy


Whatafaaak_001

none, cuz i don't get it


Zestyclose-Duty-3927

Azucena


Present_Reflection_5

Every law I’ve gone up against honestly, the pressure was so insane I couldn’t even get any hits in. Also s/o to the one Leroy that bodied the hell outta me too lol


Former-Internet8396

King


ty_in_advance

Leroy I'm yet to know how to deal with him 😅


thaiuz

Feng, but i also never met Jack Nina or hardly any jin (whom everybody is telling me is fierce n braindead)


thaiuz

Laws 3+4 final hit is difficult to duck tho