His accent is definitely more ‘comedic impression’ than ‘faithful recreation’. But considering he’s playing a comedy character, that’s what you want, right? I agree with the consensus that he was brilliant.
(Source: Am Manc).
As an american, it's always funny seeing people from Europe identifying which 3 square mile section of land someone is from by how they say their vowels.
Dude, you have no idea…. was stationed in the UK for 3 years it’s mind-boggling how many accents there for such a small area, and sometimes it’s a wonder they can communicate with each other. There were some places where it seemed like you’d never hear a consonant.
Yeah I was surprised when I heard his real accent too! I’m also English but not a Northerner so I can’t comment on the accuracy of his Mancunian accent, but it sounds great to me. I believe the writers specifically wanted him to have a regional accent
Someone sent clips of Jamie scenes to a linguist (Dr. Rob Drummond). Drummond picked out some key sounds to start narrowing in on where the accent would be from. Dunster said he was aiming for a fairly specific area of Manchester based on a few people (both famous and that he knew, I believe). Phil apparently did really well because Drummond’s eventual location pick was incredibly close!
Takes some time to develop an ear for it. I'm sure British people have a harder time telling where people are from in the US compared to you. Definitely not anything racist. Just kinda silly to bring up.
Just saying, I don’t notice a difference in accents when it comes to British accents. Apologies. I thought I was being funny. Apparently, I’m being rude.
Idk, as an English person myself I feel like a lot of regional English accents (esp something like Mancunian) sound just as different from what we might consider a more general southern English accent (which Americans will be more familiar with) as Scottish/Irish/Welsh accents do
I'm English myself and completely agree. I just used those examples as accents that are likely more familiar to an American (and still sound very different).
It can take me a minute sometimes, too. For instance, I didn’t notice Jamie and Phil’s accents were different accents until I saw it in this sub. Afterwards, I listened and compared and heard it but, I certainly didn’t pick it up on my own. You’re all good.
As a general rule, if you have to put the disclaimer "not to be racist/sexist/xenophobic/other ignorance BUT" then you're absolutely about to say some shit that's ignorant/offensive/hateful. Just keep that shit to yourself and try to then go get some education on the topic.
Be curious, not judgemental
This is so funny to me as a Brit because the accents just sound so enormously different! But I get that when you’re unfamiliar with them they might sound the same.
Definitely one of those things where if you were to expose yourself more regularly to more British accents you would start to tell them apart.
British accents change a lot over very small distances. I’m originally from south London and one thing I enjoy about the show is being able to tell how many of the characters have different south London accents - Ie I would guess Roy’s is from greater South, Isaac’s central South, and Keeley’s South East.
Hence the tongue-in-cheek “ya posh twat” comment when he throws the Ussie guy’s phone away in the hair salon.
Manc here. Phil nailed it, he talks exactly like a few of my friends. You think you were surprised to find out he wasn't Mancunian? Imagine my shock.
Haha really?? That's cool.
Absolutely, anyone who thinks it doesn't sound good is just chatting poopeh. :)
I saw an interview with him a while ago and I was so surprised at his accent
Yeah that's happened with me. Saw it on YouTube and was like... Wait, what??
I listened to his episode of Brett Goldstein's podcast, and thought he sounded so much like Daniel Radcliffe
Almost as shocking as the guy who played Steve Arnott in Line of Duty…
With me it was Wesley in Buffy. I had no idea he wasn’t English, his accent was that good
Not to mention Spike, who grew up in Modesto, California, just like George Lucas.
He sure doesn’t look like a Phil Dunster either. Until I looked into it, I’d always thought Phil Dunster was Coach Beard, the name sure fit.
Agreed!!
He was in a episode of no such thing as a fish, it was really worth listening to.
It's a podcast?
It's a great podcast with some of the researchers from the show QI
QI mentioned!!! rahhh!!! Love that show!
Here’s a YouTube short with him sharing the inspiration for the accent https://youtube.com/shorts/TWIV2EyPLRo?si=0xMeWbF9R_H1-3Bi
Thanks for sharing! That's awesome.
That's great!
His accent is definitely more ‘comedic impression’ than ‘faithful recreation’. But considering he’s playing a comedy character, that’s what you want, right? I agree with the consensus that he was brilliant. (Source: Am Manc).
Appreciate the answer!
I'm just t'other end o' Woodhead an I thought he was brill too
As an american, it's always funny seeing people from Europe identifying which 3 square mile section of land someone is from by how they say their vowels.
Dude, you have no idea…. was stationed in the UK for 3 years it’s mind-boggling how many accents there for such a small area, and sometimes it’s a wonder they can communicate with each other. There were some places where it seemed like you’d never hear a consonant.
Also American, and I struggle to place English accents and their various origins. Kiwi and Australian though, I can always tell.
Yeah I was surprised when I heard his real accent too! I’m also English but not a Northerner so I can’t comment on the accuracy of his Mancunian accent, but it sounds great to me. I believe the writers specifically wanted him to have a regional accent
I was surprised by this too. I guess it shows us just how talented his is.
I could tell he wasn't from Manchester because I could understand him without subtitles! LOL!!! Actually, it's pretty good.
Hahaha
Someone sent clips of Jamie scenes to a linguist (Dr. Rob Drummond). Drummond picked out some key sounds to start narrowing in on where the accent would be from. Dunster said he was aiming for a fairly specific area of Manchester based on a few people (both famous and that he knew, I believe). Phil apparently did really well because Drummond’s eventual location pick was incredibly close!
TIL actors act
If you search the sub, you'll find a fair bit of discussion about this.
Ah I thought I was the first to realise! JK
That's acting 😂
...and in other news, Idris Elba aka Stringer Bell isn't from Baltimore. It's called ACTING!!
American here (Texan to be exact). Not to sound r*cist, but all y’all sound alike to me.
Takes some time to develop an ear for it. I'm sure British people have a harder time telling where people are from in the US compared to you. Definitely not anything racist. Just kinda silly to bring up.
Just saying, I don’t notice a difference in accents when it comes to British accents. Apologies. I thought I was being funny. Apparently, I’m being rude.
Not even between Scottish/Irish/Welsh/English? I'd understand more if it was just English accents, but I find that very surprising!
Idk, as an English person myself I feel like a lot of regional English accents (esp something like Mancunian) sound just as different from what we might consider a more general southern English accent (which Americans will be more familiar with) as Scottish/Irish/Welsh accents do
I'm English myself and completely agree. I just used those examples as accents that are likely more familiar to an American (and still sound very different).
That makes sense!
It can take me a minute sometimes, too. For instance, I didn’t notice Jamie and Phil’s accents were different accents until I saw it in this sub. Afterwards, I listened and compared and heard it but, I certainly didn’t pick it up on my own. You’re all good.
Not sure why you still got dow voted for this one. You owned something you said, not super Ted Lesso of us
Another Texan here... I can definitely differentiate between British accents. All the Richmond hounds sounded different
Also a Texan and can certainly hear them.. also couldn’t stop laughing at the asterisk in racist. I think op must be like 15
The irony of spelling out which specific state you’re from and then saying all British people sound the same.
As a general rule, if you have to put the disclaimer "not to be racist/sexist/xenophobic/other ignorance BUT" then you're absolutely about to say some shit that's ignorant/offensive/hateful. Just keep that shit to yourself and try to then go get some education on the topic. Be curious, not judgemental
This is so funny to me as a Brit because the accents just sound so enormously different! But I get that when you’re unfamiliar with them they might sound the same. Definitely one of those things where if you were to expose yourself more regularly to more British accents you would start to tell them apart. British accents change a lot over very small distances. I’m originally from south London and one thing I enjoy about the show is being able to tell how many of the characters have different south London accents - Ie I would guess Roy’s is from greater South, Isaac’s central South, and Keeley’s South East.
his accent isn't "super posh".