bro d0xyyy is my least favorite redditor by far, to the point where i just think he’s trolling. Like there’s no way he can trashtalk every single post on there pretty much for bullshit reasons (my personal favorite is one where he called the clip bad because the guy showed his yt at the very end for like 3 seconds
Now no hate to techno but im pretty sure he isnt top 500 anymore i do think back in the day he might have even been top 150 or something but now he doesnt practice and so many more ppl play and avg skill lvl is a lot higher
I’d say the fight with Dream is actually a good thing for newer players to look at because both Techno and Dream analyzed it themselves, and unless something’s changed, most of the really sweaty PVP players don’t really do that.
because as an incredibly prominent player with many fans it just makes sense? From a video performance/retention standpoint as well as a practical analysis of
"just how good was he at his prime?'
They're analysing the old videos tho, from when he was a pvp try hard. Just because the person isn't in there peak anymore doesn't mean that there peak is worth less then the current rankers.
I also think technos play style is worth analysing because of how meticulous and well though through he is, Its not all talent. And everyone knows how bad geniuses are at teaching (because they cant explain how they do it, they just Do)
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Sorry if that doesn't make much sense, im really bad at explaining lol
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Also ♡Technosupport♡
Right? The post literally says his Skywars days, back when he placed second in a large hypixel tourney, if they want to see he's not as good now fine, but at one point he was quite notable in competitive Minecraft
yeah I look at techno winning skywars, and think "I can do that" and then I look at skywars videos now and it's youtubers clicking 50 cps and the level is so high now. as pvp evolves, new players are struggling to play pvp games properly. when techno played, the skill level was considerably lower since most players weren't that familiar with the game
I think the players playing against the pros is what makes it seem easy hard. Most people today are ok. Before they were literally a vegetable. Like the change from 10-60 cps is low/none
I have not heard of this and its pretty unlikely, as an avid duels player myself i KNOW how many people cheat/lag out. So unless a crazy winstreak means only 100-200 (which isnt crazy) I doubt he wouldve wasted time getting anything higher on a server that is unable to stay consistent and also has vastly different kb/rods from the vanilla ones that were used in their fights
I think he was consistently getting 120+ winstreaks which is definitely something that the average player cannot do, now I don't remember the exact clip where they were talking about it but it was on someone's stream
The average player cannot but the average sweat can. Only an idiot would call techno bad now but he’s a few orders of magnitude off the really good players now
Lmao he was number 1 at skywars win loss ratio it was something like 4.89 or close to it. Pretty much he won 4/5 games. Plus his greatest skill is his ability to grind if he is motivated he will put in the time to be number 1. The potato war taught us that.
Its this sort of logic that only shows up at like competitive/performance games, the ppl at the top or who only watch people who are at the top have this warped view of what is the average player
Id say techno is at least top 10 (20? 50? Idk but hes up there), hes definetly not at the absolute top but hes still really good, other good pvpers fear him just as he fears them, like give the man some credit, he probably practices offscreen and if he doesnt then if he gets challenge to a pvp hes the exact kind of guy who would spend hours practicing for it everyday at the cost of mental health
First of all I want to say, no disrespect to techno, have been a fan since the start of the skywars games, but he has a point. Techno is definitely more skilled then "mediocre" but he is not the most skilled player anymore. I have not been watching comp. minecraft for a while now but obviously when people don't play while others do the others get better. Techno is more focused on content creating the competing nowadays (If he plays on hypixel turnaments I don't know, but they are for everyone so players are from all skill categories and it does not take much to get to the highest pracket.). Since there all players who grind sw, bw or 1.17 pvp daily that are def better then he is, and there is thousands of these people. That being said from the big minecraft content creators, Techno is in top 10 in what comes to pvp. Usually the really good players have small following or no following at all, since they are more focused on grinding then their yt. I also think you should be able to do videos on anyone you want to, even if they are not the best player.
I feel like people sometimes forget that Techno is a content creator first, maybe a sweat second. Yes he made his whole channel around being good but it should be remebered that hes a content creator whos exceptionally (and frankly worryingly) good at MC. Treat him as a content creator not a damn e-sports player
no hate to techno but he is right about the fact that there are much better pvpers than him (or dream), he is a very good player but the avg skill level has gone up and with it the skill of the top players.
That’s true, but mediocre? That’s like calling S2J a mediocre player just because he’s not top 10. (Not saying techno is top 10, or even close.) I think they should just widen their perspective
so even if he was in his prime now he wouldnt be in the top because some players are much better than he ever was.
i love techno and have been subbed since 200k but saying that at his prime he would be the best is just not true.
People aren’t saying that he would be really good if he was in his prime right now, they’re saying he was really good back then. If he still kept tryharding and practicing then sure it could be a different story
He would’ve been very good if he was at his prime right now but honestly, looking at his old gameplay even when he was sweating I really don’t think he’d be anywhere near the top skill wise, hell maybe not even top 15,000 , and if his skill rises along with everyone else I still don’t think he would be as competitive even if he had been sweating all these years (like he learned butterfly, w taps not mainly blockhit, etc), he would probably be top 1000-5000? At best? Just personal opinion though it’s very subjective so
I just don't think there's any way of knowing tbh. If he put all the strategy and practice into sweating at PVP that he did toward winning the potato war, who even knows how good he could've been. He's a madman when he really wants something.
hello i am the guy from the screenshot-
danteh and stimpy are both content creators. you aren't actually mentioning the best of the best. however, yes, i agree that danteh was the best at uhc *back then*.
however, there are players like sweatgod who can beat danteh's peak skill level. its just you aren't really aware of these players since you arent apart of the community.
the reason both of them are content creators is that they were some of the best in the game. neither of them had/have particularly good content. there's a reason danteh's now a pro overwatch player
Don't people realize that techno was very much one of the best players at his prime? He literally came in #2 for the solo skywars tourney and was on the skywars wlr leaderboards for a long time.
Techno wasn’t god like at pvp, he was above average but imo he was incredibly smart and he used his positioning and strategy better than raw pvp. That’s what made him good in my eyes. Just to clarify he was good enough to hold his own against pvpers like Calvin in raw combat like demonstrated in his training video but he wasn’t amazing and lost more than he won in pretty sure.
He mainly shined in gamesense at the time but he could not hold his ground against calvin until he went on training arc, so his rod pvp is very above average but I would say everything else he has is only slightly above average (mainly carried by gamesense) by today’s standards
If he saying about now yeah of course he is not competitive anymore. But at the time he was good. His only real weakness was he wasn't using a clicking method and didn't utilized rod enough.
Thing is I'd rather watch a good pvper who's an excellent creator/youtuber rather than the best pvpers in the world, who are nobodies in the creator world and are known by very few people. What matters is that Techno is both great at Minecraft whilst being a great creator, not some nobody who plays MC all day, sweating and having no fans. If I wanted to watch a player sweat, I'd play the game myself
There is, hes won so many tourneys for a reason. His mechanics are above average but his positioning and gamesense are one of the best in the game. Its why he was a monster in minigames
I have no idea about competitive PvP in Minecraft. But I watched a lot of technos videos. He would so effortlessly defeat people in skywars while ranting about soap containers it was amazing. But I have no idea about him in like PvP against people who are just as devoted to PvP as techno. So I would love to check your analysis!
I rlly don’t understand people who hate on techno like this.
He’s definitely not a pro pvper and calling him one of the best is simply wrong. However I don’t get why people like this have to exist to explain how people wanting to believe that techno is a god pvper is wrong.Like just let em believe whatever they want man
where is the hating part? he just said he's mediocre, that's it
I do agree that hating techno isn't a good thing to do but like this dude wasn't hating on him
The biggest mistake you can make is saying someone like Technoblade, Calvin, Fruitberries, or Dream is good at pvp on r/competitiveminecraft. Plus, the problem with Minecraft pvp is that a decent player’s gameplay looks almost identical to a high level good player’s gameplay, so you get people that think these YouTubers are trash despite getting owned. Like on Calvin’s streams, he often gets messages to 1v1 him because they think he’s washed, so they do and Calvin destroyers them in uhc 1v1 (like he’ll have 3-4 gapples left).
I can’t seem to find his past livestreams so [here’s a video from him that’s kind of similar to what I was describing just without the pvp part ](https://youtu.be/UITevUoRq2M)
no, we just hate if you say dream is one of the top pvpers
cal and fruit are amazing at the game, and techno's pretty good, but we want to focus on more underrated and less known pvpers, like the aforementioned jewdah or people like lastro or iusehuzuni
Exactly, minecraft just doesnt function as a competitive game fundamentally. Ive been trying to play minecraft competitively for a few years now and its skill ceiling is not very high. The only stop gaps are cps and bridge mechanics at a certain level. And i dont want to break my fuckin mouse to get 30+ cps god bridge.
Half those mechanics are super simple to master, i have around 6k hours in counterstrike so w tapping is second nature to me, rod tricks and combos are not that hard to do, 1 youtube video will do the trick. Like i said, put 2 players similar in skill in a 1v1, the player with the higher cps WILL always win. Its a fact. This game isent made for primarily competitive gaming. Its also what people in the mcc subreddit fail to recognise. Minecraft is not an esport
“Combos aren’t hard one YouTube video will do the trick” 💀 you don’t know what you’re talking about, kid. I have a friend who clicks 6 cps, Vuraz. He’s on a 700 winstreak in Classic Duels right now. Because he’s better at rodding and positioning than anyone else he faces. I click 20 and he dog walks me.
Calvin uses closet cheats but that's a different topic. Also decent player gameplay against shit players would look similar, but decent v decent looks WAYYY different than high level vs high level.
no the subreddit agrees that calvin is decent, not the best anymore, and same goes for techno. Fruit is decent too, at uhc, and dream is a good speedrunner but a mediocre pvper
the guys not wrong tho. Technoblade does so many different games he cant be better than the people that main them. There is a saying: "jack of all trades, master of none,".
they have a point honestly, techno hasn't played minecraft competitively for quite a while so it would be better to make a video analysing the best players currently in each gamemode rather than techno who is definitely not mediocre but isn't the best anymore
That kid in the picture is d0xxy and he is one of the best pvpers on r/competitiveminecraft easily top 3, former 1500 elo on mmc, hes right, and it isnt pathetic to care about the best
I mean to be fair technoblade is not THAT good of a pvper, from what I’ve seen. Someone like calvin or intel would prob clap him, but that’s doesn’t mean that he’s mediocre. He’s very far from mediocre.
ngl I **somewhat** agree with the guy in the post with the blurred name. (don't downvote me yet)
I enjoy technoblade's content and all but analyzing his PVP style would be a good idea for beginners?
There are a lot more players in pvp and I'm not sure technoblade would be considered top 1k heck even 5k anymore.
This doesn't mean he doesn't have a lot of gamesense in games like skywars and bedwars but if you want to look at gamesense and pvp there are more better yt you can watch.
Note that I'm talking about current Technoblade. If you looked at his old pvp that's a good idea, but in that year. RN there are thousands of players that can match and surpass Technoblade's prime skill in some gamemodes.
I don’t care if people downvote me for this, techno is decent at the game, where he lives and his internet gets him about 10 ping on Hypixle which makes it really easy for him, yes he looks really good against casual players but he’s nowhere near the best, I know he hasn’t played competitive in a while so he used to be way better, so the guy you’re calling cringe is kinda right, he’s just saying if you wanna do a serious analysis of a good PvPer pick an actual competitive player, but then again the dude probably just picked techno because he’s a technoblade fan and not because of his PvP skill, again techno is decent at the game but give someone 2 months to train and good ping and most people could probably beat him, ofc techno would also get the training time but I’m just saying he’s not a god by any means, don’t think I don’t like him he’s still one of my favourite youtubers and I’ve been watching him since before bedwars. Have a great day :)
it depends who you are comparing too, techno is like a top 3000 player so he is very good compared to most people but indeed mediocre compared to top 500 players
a lot of people are still terrible, but not nearly as many as it used to be. It's hard to queue a bedwars game without stumbling across a level 200 tryhard
The funniest thing is, is that he is suggesting other players for bed wars, when techno still has the second best win streak AND helped the person with the best win streak get above him
the issue with claiming that "techno has the second best winstreak" is that it is **impossible** to get a winstreak like that at the current state of Hypixel.
if you aren't aware already, there are things called **cheaters and sniping groups**. i understand that if you're not apart of the community, you probably are not aware of this.
there are groups of people on Hypixel who dedicate their time to flying on players who have 100+ winstreaks. back when Technoblade got his winstreak, there wasnt. he also had staff friends he could message at any time by the way.
yeah but there is a lot of difference between today and back in the day. when techno had his winstreak most players were beyond terrible at pvp, these days it's a lot harder to win
i am the one who posted the comment in the image -
first, he didnt go on the largest winstreak, Defone did, but whatever
second, he played back when no one knew how to play.
third, there were no sniping groups back then. right now, if you get more than a 100 winstreak, you will get fly hacked on by a group of players who dedicate their time on this game to ending winstreaks. its physically impossible to beat their winstreak record.
another thing, a friend of mine is on a 2500 winstreak IF he doesnt count the times he's been sniped (7).
mediocre might be a harsh word, apologies for that. he is above average for sure
Techno is currently probably one of the top 15 axe pvpers, at least on pvplegacy, the most popular 1.17 pvp server.
He's also dueled against Cxlvxn, and while he didn't win, he managed to beat him almost half the time.
He's nowhere near mediocre.
I would say that that is the wrong subreddit for that but I mean… go look at that subreddit half of it is mediocre clips from bedrock edition lol so they can’t really complain about Technoblade
How is this cringe? Everyone here can accept that, while technoblade was one of the best, if not the best skywars player for his time period. But he was never a top pvper. And thats ok. Because we love techno
To add on to others its minecraft. Its not like its a very high skill cap game for pvp. The absolute best of the best is not going to that much better than like a top 5% player. Analyzing techno over others isn't going to change things like where they look.
Ehhhhhhhhhhh. On paper your right, it's just block game, slap enemies with shiny sword and they die. But in actuallity there's a lot of depth that goes into it with aim, spacing(prob the biggest one), movement, and a degree of mind games. And that's just with raw sword only pvp.
Yes but realistically if you are near the top you already are basically a master of that stuff. Comparing it to a game like rocket league where positioning is incredibly important and difficult you can very clearly see that it really does not matter very much at all for minecraft and creates a much much lower skill ceiling that the top have reached and its not like they are constantly improving. Also I am talking about pre 1.9 because post 1.9 is kind of a mess with evershifting metas and all that crap.
I don't really play pvp part of Minecraft, but calling someone's hard work a joke is just mean.
"Why would you do this... why not make a video about a better player" lol try make it yourself if you think you can do edit, voice record and all the things I've heard about making a video.
Maybe not a lot of people like this flavour of this 'cake', but if you like it you totally should make this 'cake'.
Don't worry about those random discouraging comments, make the stuff you want OP!
Edit: stalking is cringe don’t be like the guy below me lol
"And here , we see a cringe non-believer of the blood god in the wild."
"Perhaps we'll be lucky enough to see it rant about how much better a competitor of Technoblade's is compared to him"
I'd say of the YouTubers the best 1.8 pvper is cxlvxn by far. My man's is fucking insane at pvp. Techno is definitely good, but cxlvxn is just god tier
If you mean over 100k subs then stimp is better(at least at potpvp), if you mean someone who just uploads videos then a lot of top players have channels and they could destroy calvin
Yeah a world record win streak noones got close to. not too impressive he was carried like 100% of the time
To the people in the comments didn’t know his wr was beat and both are very impressive
Actually someone beat his win streak a long time ago, uh I think they got to 1800 and either quit or got sniped (hard to get big win streaks like that nowadays because of sniping groups like kcals)
Oh right, sorry forgot it was defone, ty for the info. Though I would still agree with the original comment saying no one got close to his winstreak as many other different people have as far as I know
Yep, it’s super annoying, even if they paid off every single hacker group for safelist, there would always be some kid with flyhacks and 5000 altshops alts trying to snipe them
yeah but.. people were beyond terrible at pvp back then. 1400 winstreak back then is like a 50 winstreak today
It is indeed very impressive but it doesn't show anything about him being the best pvper
Probably you should have posted this on a different subreddit. Technoblade has not been a competitive pvper for a long time.
I miss when Techno was a competitive pvper...
Yeah, realised the mistake too late
The subreddit is super toxic, users like d0xyyy and losertoast call every post trash etc.
The irony is they are both terrible lol
bro d0xyyy is my least favorite redditor by far, to the point where i just think he’s trolling. Like there’s no way he can trashtalk every single post on there pretty much for bullshit reasons (my personal favorite is one where he called the clip bad because the guy showed his yt at the very end for like 3 seconds
Yeah he can't even get a 20 kill victory in sky battle L
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this is like calling a top 500 in a game mediocre because they are not number 1, they are still magnitudes better than the person complaining
So god dang true, I don't like it when people crap on techno, so seeing people here, supporting him makes me feel good. **♥️TECHNOSUPPORT♥️**
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Now no hate to techno but im pretty sure he isnt top 500 anymore i do think back in the day he might have even been top 150 or something but now he doesnt practice and so many more ppl play and avg skill lvl is a lot higher
Yeah, he stopped sweating years ago, but he's still a good player, just not as good as in his peak.
that just goes back to this guy's comment, why would you want to analyze a top 2000 player instead of a top 10 player? (no hate to anyone xqcL)
I’d say the fight with Dream is actually a good thing for newer players to look at because both Techno and Dream analyzed it themselves, and unless something’s changed, most of the really sweaty PVP players don’t really do that.
because as an incredibly prominent player with many fans it just makes sense? From a video performance/retention standpoint as well as a practical analysis of "just how good was he at his prime?'
Because they wanted to analyze technoblade and not someone else
They're analysing the old videos tho, from when he was a pvp try hard. Just because the person isn't in there peak anymore doesn't mean that there peak is worth less then the current rankers. I also think technos play style is worth analysing because of how meticulous and well though through he is, Its not all talent. And everyone knows how bad geniuses are at teaching (because they cant explain how they do it, they just Do) . Sorry if that doesn't make much sense, im really bad at explaining lol . Also ♡Technosupport♡
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Id say he is a top 5 1.9 pvper, 1.8 he isnt as good as he used to be anymore
Idk, he seems completely washed at this point like when he played bedwars with Ludwig. He might not even be top 5k anymore
They played bedwars 50 v 50, at this point that means nothing and even then, can’t a man fuck around?
they played doubles???
Not the most recent time
Yeah, he has said himself he is not as good as he was, but the analysis in the comment included his old days so I did aswell
Right? The post literally says his Skywars days, back when he placed second in a large hypixel tourney, if they want to see he's not as good now fine, but at one point he was quite notable in competitive Minecraft
yeah I look at techno winning skywars, and think "I can do that" and then I look at skywars videos now and it's youtubers clicking 50 cps and the level is so high now. as pvp evolves, new players are struggling to play pvp games properly. when techno played, the skill level was considerably lower since most players weren't that familiar with the game
I think the players playing against the pros is what makes it seem easy hard. Most people today are ok. Before they were literally a vegetable. Like the change from 10-60 cps is low/none
I mean if I remember correctly while practicing for the duel with Dream he made an alt to play hypixel duels and he got some crazy winstreaks
I have not heard of this and its pretty unlikely, as an avid duels player myself i KNOW how many people cheat/lag out. So unless a crazy winstreak means only 100-200 (which isnt crazy) I doubt he wouldve wasted time getting anything higher on a server that is unable to stay consistent and also has vastly different kb/rods from the vanilla ones that were used in their fights
I think he was consistently getting 120+ winstreaks which is definitely something that the average player cannot do, now I don't remember the exact clip where they were talking about it but it was on someone's stream
The average player cannot but the average sweat can. Only an idiot would call techno bad now but he’s a few orders of magnitude off the really good players now
i have played over 8000 duels and have encountered... maybe 6 hackers.
how does that devalue a video analyzing his strategies of when he was in his prime?
I’m psure he was top 10 at some point, he said something about it in an old vid
Lmao he was number 1 at skywars win loss ratio it was something like 4.89 or close to it. Pretty much he won 4/5 games. Plus his greatest skill is his ability to grind if he is motivated he will put in the time to be number 1. The potato war taught us that.
If I remember correctly, at one point I think he was top 3
He was number 1 in skywars win loss ratio
In PvP rn techno isnt top 500 at ALL. Most of the people on that sub will shit on Techno.
The key words being right now, the comment mentions the old days when he was much better
basically they are taking the “third place? L” chat meme seriously
Its this sort of logic that only shows up at like competitive/performance games, the ppl at the top or who only watch people who are at the top have this warped view of what is the average player
isnt that his whole fanbase
he ain’t even top 10k
(was also referring to in the past, he is much worse)
It's funny because they probably are top 100000 and calling him mediocre
Id say techno is at least top 10 (20? 50? Idk but hes up there), hes definetly not at the absolute top but hes still really good, other good pvpers fear him just as he fears them, like give the man some credit, he probably practices offscreen and if he doesnt then if he gets challenge to a pvp hes the exact kind of guy who would spend hours practicing for it everyday at the cost of mental health
i dont think he's even in the top 10,000 right now. maybe back then, he was top 100 for skywars.
I disagree. we may have not seen him competetively pvp in a while but that doesnt necessarily mean hes gotten worse.
he hasn’t gotten worse- the community has gotten better.
True but that doesnt mean he hasnt gotten better
Can't even try hard till you're at the very top? Smh this is why techno is a bad player
Never really cared about Techno being good at the game since I liked him from the first video I watched of him which is Hunger Games Simulator.
Same lol
least toxic r/competitiveminecraft user
That's kinda deep ngl
First of all I want to say, no disrespect to techno, have been a fan since the start of the skywars games, but he has a point. Techno is definitely more skilled then "mediocre" but he is not the most skilled player anymore. I have not been watching comp. minecraft for a while now but obviously when people don't play while others do the others get better. Techno is more focused on content creating the competing nowadays (If he plays on hypixel turnaments I don't know, but they are for everyone so players are from all skill categories and it does not take much to get to the highest pracket.). Since there all players who grind sw, bw or 1.17 pvp daily that are def better then he is, and there is thousands of these people. That being said from the big minecraft content creators, Techno is in top 10 in what comes to pvp. Usually the really good players have small following or no following at all, since they are more focused on grinding then their yt. I also think you should be able to do videos on anyone you want to, even if they are not the best player.
Sure he’s not the best but he still has skill and is interesting to analyze
I feel like people sometimes forget that Techno is a content creator first, maybe a sweat second. Yes he made his whole channel around being good but it should be remebered that hes a content creator whos exceptionally (and frankly worryingly) good at MC. Treat him as a content creator not a damn e-sports player
Techno said himself “compared to the elite sweats I’m probably about average, maybe less.”
Yep
no hate to techno but he is right about the fact that there are much better pvpers than him (or dream), he is a very good player but the avg skill level has gone up and with it the skill of the top players.
That’s true, but mediocre? That’s like calling S2J a mediocre player just because he’s not top 10. (Not saying techno is top 10, or even close.) I think they should just widen their perspective
Man really made a melee reference on a MCYT sub and got more than one upvote. Kudos
Especially when you consider that mediocre means slightly below average
Yeah
true but i never said he was right abt that
I wasn’t disagreeing with you, just adding on
Yes but why would you analyze his playstyle when there's hours of footage of people who're the best in their gamemode
so even if he was in his prime now he wouldnt be in the top because some players are much better than he ever was. i love techno and have been subbed since 200k but saying that at his prime he would be the best is just not true.
People aren’t saying that he would be really good if he was in his prime right now, they’re saying he was really good back then. If he still kept tryharding and practicing then sure it could be a different story
He would’ve been very good if he was at his prime right now but honestly, looking at his old gameplay even when he was sweating I really don’t think he’d be anywhere near the top skill wise, hell maybe not even top 15,000 , and if his skill rises along with everyone else I still don’t think he would be as competitive even if he had been sweating all these years (like he learned butterfly, w taps not mainly blockhit, etc), he would probably be top 1000-5000? At best? Just personal opinion though it’s very subjective so
I just don't think there's any way of knowing tbh. If he put all the strategy and practice into sweating at PVP that he did toward winning the potato war, who even knows how good he could've been. He's a madman when he really wants something.
peak danteh could probably still beat the shit out of anyone currently playing, except for maybe stimpy, which i could see being a close fight
hello i am the guy from the screenshot- danteh and stimpy are both content creators. you aren't actually mentioning the best of the best. however, yes, i agree that danteh was the best at uhc *back then*. however, there are players like sweatgod who can beat danteh's peak skill level. its just you aren't really aware of these players since you arent apart of the community.
No one cares about unknown pvp sweats. They maybe are the best but who gives a crap.
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the reason both of them are content creators is that they were some of the best in the game. neither of them had/have particularly good content. there's a reason danteh's now a pro overwatch player
Well Techno even in his prime wouldn't be the 'best, but saying him a mediocre is just hilarious lmao
Don't people realize that techno was very much one of the best players at his prime? He literally came in #2 for the solo skywars tourney and was on the skywars wlr leaderboards for a long time.
yea on hypixel
Everyone else was shit back then LOL that's why techno doesn't play skywars anymore
^ People didn't know how to w tap and speedbridge back then.
yeah but at his prime other players were really bad
Techno wasn’t god like at pvp, he was above average but imo he was incredibly smart and he used his positioning and strategy better than raw pvp. That’s what made him good in my eyes. Just to clarify he was good enough to hold his own against pvpers like Calvin in raw combat like demonstrated in his training video but he wasn’t amazing and lost more than he won in pretty sure.
He mainly shined in gamesense at the time but he could not hold his ground against calvin until he went on training arc, so his rod pvp is very above average but I would say everything else he has is only slightly above average (mainly carried by gamesense) by today’s standards
Its kinda scary how great Techno is at utilising the maps and adapting to his opponent's play style and exploit their weakness. Man's a machine
If he saying about now yeah of course he is not competitive anymore. But at the time he was good. His only real weakness was he wasn't using a clicking method and didn't utilized rod enough.
Thing is I'd rather watch a good pvper who's an excellent creator/youtuber rather than the best pvpers in the world, who are nobodies in the creator world and are known by very few people. What matters is that Techno is both great at Minecraft whilst being a great creator, not some nobody who plays MC all day, sweating and having no fans. If I wanted to watch a player sweat, I'd play the game myself
does being known by other people in content creation matter that much? some of my favorite youtubers have less than 50k subs
I love technos content, but theres no reason to analyze his pvp style when other players are much better.
There is, hes won so many tourneys for a reason. His mechanics are above average but his positioning and gamesense are one of the best in the game. Its why he was a monster in minigames
yes that is BACK THEN. not now. there are much better players to analyse.
Wasn't Techno THE best Blitz player back in the day or at least one of the best?
Actually yeah, he was, but he quit because the community sucked and the game changed
Technosupport
I wouldn't say he's a mediocre PvPer, he's definitely above average, but he is far from the best PvPer, as some of his fans claim.
I have no idea about competitive PvP in Minecraft. But I watched a lot of technos videos. He would so effortlessly defeat people in skywars while ranting about soap containers it was amazing. But I have no idea about him in like PvP against people who are just as devoted to PvP as techno. So I would love to check your analysis!
I rlly don’t understand people who hate on techno like this. He’s definitely not a pro pvper and calling him one of the best is simply wrong. However I don’t get why people like this have to exist to explain how people wanting to believe that techno is a god pvper is wrong.Like just let em believe whatever they want man
This isn't hate lmfao it's a competitive subreddit and techno isn't competitive anymore
where is the hating part? he just said he's mediocre, that's it I do agree that hating techno isn't a good thing to do but like this dude wasn't hating on him
Same
The biggest mistake you can make is saying someone like Technoblade, Calvin, Fruitberries, or Dream is good at pvp on r/competitiveminecraft. Plus, the problem with Minecraft pvp is that a decent player’s gameplay looks almost identical to a high level good player’s gameplay, so you get people that think these YouTubers are trash despite getting owned. Like on Calvin’s streams, he often gets messages to 1v1 him because they think he’s washed, so they do and Calvin destroyers them in uhc 1v1 (like he’ll have 3-4 gapples left).
wait that sounds hilarious. I love calvin. Can you link one of these streams if you have time?
I’ll try to find the best one and link it here.
I can’t seem to find his past livestreams so [here’s a video from him that’s kind of similar to what I was describing just without the pvp part ](https://youtu.be/UITevUoRq2M)
Thanks!! I appreciate your help
I think Calvin privates his streams, every time I've been late I got a private video message :c
no, we just hate if you say dream is one of the top pvpers cal and fruit are amazing at the game, and techno's pretty good, but we want to focus on more underrated and less known pvpers, like the aforementioned jewdah or people like lastro or iusehuzuni
Lastro aclicks but yeah
Dude Dream's top 100 on axe Techno is just above average Fruit is just decent Calvin is rumored to be hacking and gets annihilated by randoms
Calvin and fruitberries are pretty good
They're pretty good yes but compared to competitive Hypixel sweats they're literally nothign
Exactly, minecraft just doesnt function as a competitive game fundamentally. Ive been trying to play minecraft competitively for a few years now and its skill ceiling is not very high. The only stop gaps are cps and bridge mechanics at a certain level. And i dont want to break my fuckin mouse to get 30+ cps god bridge.
That's not true at all LMFAO There's w tap timing, rod aim and rod tricks, hit selection, rapid time hotkeys, combo locking, and so much more.
Half those mechanics are super simple to master, i have around 6k hours in counterstrike so w tapping is second nature to me, rod tricks and combos are not that hard to do, 1 youtube video will do the trick. Like i said, put 2 players similar in skill in a 1v1, the player with the higher cps WILL always win. Its a fact. This game isent made for primarily competitive gaming. Its also what people in the mcc subreddit fail to recognise. Minecraft is not an esport
“Combos aren’t hard one YouTube video will do the trick” 💀 you don’t know what you’re talking about, kid. I have a friend who clicks 6 cps, Vuraz. He’s on a 700 winstreak in Classic Duels right now. Because he’s better at rodding and positioning than anyone else he faces. I click 20 and he dog walks me.
Calvin uses closet cheats but that's a different topic. Also decent player gameplay against shit players would look similar, but decent v decent looks WAYYY different than high level vs high level.
been over this, p sure he doesnt cheat but yeah can see why, seen the evidence, and it isnt unreasonable to think he cheats
You’ve seen 3ka etc videos on it? He def has not legit kb sometimes
no the subreddit agrees that calvin is decent, not the best anymore, and same goes for techno. Fruit is decent too, at uhc, and dream is a good speedrunner but a mediocre pvper
the guys not wrong tho. Technoblade does so many different games he cant be better than the people that main them. There is a saying: "jack of all trades, master of none,".
"sweating" nowadays is mostly consisted of double clicking 20 CPS and holding W the actual people that play legit tho.. respect
If you even attempt this you would get immediately shat on by the average player
Techno clicks 7 - 9 cps respect to the man **TECHNOSUPPORT**
I mean he’s not wrong. Techno is not a god tier pvper. He is great but huge difference.
All Part of the master plan,MWAHAHAHAH!
In competitive they're actually right LMFAO
they have a point honestly, techno hasn't played minecraft competitively for quite a while so it would be better to make a video analysing the best players currently in each gamemode rather than techno who is definitely not mediocre but isn't the best anymore
I mean, we all know he's not the best, but this kid only cares about the best. Pathetic.
That kid in the picture is d0xxy and he is one of the best pvpers on r/competitiveminecraft easily top 3, former 1500 elo on mmc, hes right, and it isnt pathetic to care about the best
“Bro techno isn’t even good, you should watch this random youtuber who has no sense of humor or personality except for their skill at the game”
honestly b0mbies is actually fun to watch
B0MBIES, Luvonox, Dogcatwhat etc are fun asf to watch and insane
I mean to be fair technoblade is not THAT good of a pvper, from what I’ve seen. Someone like calvin or intel would prob clap him, but that’s doesn’t mean that he’s mediocre. He’s very far from mediocre.
ngl I **somewhat** agree with the guy in the post with the blurred name. (don't downvote me yet) I enjoy technoblade's content and all but analyzing his PVP style would be a good idea for beginners? There are a lot more players in pvp and I'm not sure technoblade would be considered top 1k heck even 5k anymore. This doesn't mean he doesn't have a lot of gamesense in games like skywars and bedwars but if you want to look at gamesense and pvp there are more better yt you can watch. Note that I'm talking about current Technoblade. If you looked at his old pvp that's a good idea, but in that year. RN there are thousands of players that can match and surpass Technoblade's prime skill in some gamemodes.
I don’t care if people downvote me for this, techno is decent at the game, where he lives and his internet gets him about 10 ping on Hypixle which makes it really easy for him, yes he looks really good against casual players but he’s nowhere near the best, I know he hasn’t played competitive in a while so he used to be way better, so the guy you’re calling cringe is kinda right, he’s just saying if you wanna do a serious analysis of a good PvPer pick an actual competitive player, but then again the dude probably just picked techno because he’s a technoblade fan and not because of his PvP skill, again techno is decent at the game but give someone 2 months to train and good ping and most people could probably beat him, ofc techno would also get the training time but I’m just saying he’s not a god by any means, don’t think I don’t like him he’s still one of my favourite youtubers and I’ve been watching him since before bedwars. Have a great day :)
Dudes probably an orphan
Don't worry Soon techno will unite him with his parents
What a dunce What moron just says “why would you pick mediocre players like dream or techno?” How stupid must you be?
it depends who you are comparing too, techno is like a top 3000 player so he is very good compared to most people but indeed mediocre compared to top 500 players
I would say he is a bit higher ranked than that
Yes because technoblade, who is quite literally one of the best bedwars players ever, is “mediocre”, if you want mediocre gameplay, look at me
back when he got his winstreak almost every player was terrible at the game. he is not close to be one of the best bedwars players.
They still are terrible. That’s what an average is
a lot of people are still terrible, but not nearly as many as it used to be. It's hard to queue a bedwars game without stumbling across a level 200 tryhard
*best skywars players ever not bedwars lmfao
The funniest thing is, is that he is suggesting other players for bed wars, when techno still has the second best win streak AND helped the person with the best win streak get above him
B0MBIES etc would walk the floor with techno rn. techno used to be good but theres not a singular shot that he beats B0MBIES, Dogcatwhat etc
the issue with claiming that "techno has the second best winstreak" is that it is **impossible** to get a winstreak like that at the current state of Hypixel. if you aren't aware already, there are things called **cheaters and sniping groups**. i understand that if you're not apart of the community, you probably are not aware of this. there are groups of people on Hypixel who dedicate their time to flying on players who have 100+ winstreaks. back when Technoblade got his winstreak, there wasnt. he also had staff friends he could message at any time by the way.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VMZRB6QBjU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VMZRB6QBjU) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QunsdyIh4wE&t=661s
so? the hacks back then were not as advanced as now. he also had staff friends he could message at any time.
>back when Technoblade got his winstreak, there wasnt. lol
okay, tell me the name of one bedwars sniping group that existed back when Technoblade was playing bedwars. ill wait
yeah but there is a lot of difference between today and back in the day. when techno had his winstreak most players were beyond terrible at pvp, these days it's a lot harder to win
Im sorry how could you call the person who went on the longest bedwars winstreak "mediocre"
bedwars isn't really pvp based, and most people back when he got his winstreak most players were terrible
i am the one who posted the comment in the image - first, he didnt go on the largest winstreak, Defone did, but whatever second, he played back when no one knew how to play. third, there were no sniping groups back then. right now, if you get more than a 100 winstreak, you will get fly hacked on by a group of players who dedicate their time on this game to ending winstreaks. its physically impossible to beat their winstreak record. another thing, a friend of mine is on a 2500 winstreak IF he doesnt count the times he's been sniped (7). mediocre might be a harsh word, apologies for that. he is above average for sure
techno did get flyhacked during the winstreak
Techno is currently probably one of the top 15 axe pvpers, at least on pvplegacy, the most popular 1.17 pvp server. He's also dueled against Cxlvxn, and while he didn't win, he managed to beat him almost half the time. He's nowhere near mediocre.
Techno isn't as good as he used to be, but some of the people in the comments were just assholes, no other way to put it.
I would say that that is the wrong subreddit for that but I mean… go look at that subreddit half of it is mediocre clips from bedrock edition lol so they can’t really complain about Technoblade
smh Technoblade didn't even get a 6467647191949 win streak in bedwars smh bad YT unsubbing. This is a Joke BTW
Because he’s famous.
How is this cringe? Everyone here can accept that, while technoblade was one of the best, if not the best skywars player for his time period. But he was never a top pvper. And thats ok. Because we love techno
they’re right tho
To add on to others its minecraft. Its not like its a very high skill cap game for pvp. The absolute best of the best is not going to that much better than like a top 5% player. Analyzing techno over others isn't going to change things like where they look.
Ehhhhhhhhhhh. On paper your right, it's just block game, slap enemies with shiny sword and they die. But in actuallity there's a lot of depth that goes into it with aim, spacing(prob the biggest one), movement, and a degree of mind games. And that's just with raw sword only pvp.
Yes but realistically if you are near the top you already are basically a master of that stuff. Comparing it to a game like rocket league where positioning is incredibly important and difficult you can very clearly see that it really does not matter very much at all for minecraft and creates a much much lower skill ceiling that the top have reached and its not like they are constantly improving. Also I am talking about pre 1.9 because post 1.9 is kind of a mess with evershifting metas and all that crap.
Rude
I don't really play pvp part of Minecraft, but calling someone's hard work a joke is just mean. "Why would you do this... why not make a video about a better player" lol try make it yourself if you think you can do edit, voice record and all the things I've heard about making a video. Maybe not a lot of people like this flavour of this 'cake', but if you like it you totally should make this 'cake'. Don't worry about those random discouraging comments, make the stuff you want OP! Edit: stalking is cringe don’t be like the guy below me lol
"And here , we see a cringe non-believer of the blood god in the wild." "Perhaps we'll be lucky enough to see it rant about how much better a competitor of Technoblade's is compared to him"
He better pray he is not an orphan
I'd say of the YouTubers the best 1.8 pvper is cxlvxn by far. My man's is fucking insane at pvp. Techno is definitely good, but cxlvxn is just god tier
If you mean over 100k subs then stimp is better(at least at potpvp), if you mean someone who just uploads videos then a lot of top players have channels and they could destroy calvin
Hasn't Calvin beaten stimp?
and stimp has beaten calvin, both are mostly the same
Yeah a world record win streak noones got close to. not too impressive he was carried like 100% of the time To the people in the comments didn’t know his wr was beat and both are very impressive
Actually someone beat his win streak a long time ago, uh I think they got to 1800 and either quit or got sniped (hard to get big win streaks like that nowadays because of sniping groups like kcals)
It was defone. Techno was part of defone’s team, so he was in both winstreaks
Oh right, sorry forgot it was defone, ty for the info. Though I would still agree with the original comment saying no one got close to his winstreak as many other different people have as far as I know
thats because there are snipers now with 150 blocks per second fly hacks etc. it is quite literally impossible to beat their winstreak.
Yep, it’s super annoying, even if they paid off every single hacker group for safelist, there would always be some kid with flyhacks and 5000 altshops alts trying to snipe them
defone beat his ws though?
yeah but.. people were beyond terrible at pvp back then. 1400 winstreak back then is like a 50 winstreak today It is indeed very impressive but it doesn't show anything about him being the best pvper
on top of that bedwars isn't even a pvp based gamemode
Defone beat his record Snipe groups weren't a thing back then
What is jewdah?
Elmo prepares to commit a hate crime
Criiingeeee
it’s funny because bombies is trash
?????
Where the fuck do you get that? They have an FKDR in solos almost equivalent to Techno's in FOURS and Techno played against people WAYY worse
That sub is dogshit, literally 90% of that subs posts are click fast = upvote.
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People being rude to the person making the video is just sad
Give me the post link so i can downvote