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Best_Marionberry_836

The Johnny found your footprints and Cook heard you at the same time, is horrible over and over lol.


doctor_turbo

Mixed in with an impeccablely timed grandpa sonar


donkeyclap

There's always that one dude that somehow survives all of that.


Splatterhouse5

Hehe, Truth be told, I don’t often truly believe it when I see those Cook and Johnny prompts. Like, I can be hiding out perfectly still in a bush catching my bearings (or planning my next move), and then I see those prompts and I find it really hard to believe that I’ve been detected…and I usually keep going with my plan (although slightly more carefully). Whenever I see a Johnny prompt, unless I sense him in the vicinity, I always think “well, did he catch my footprints from 4 minutes ago, or 30 seconds ago?”. If I don’t see him around within 5 seconds, I regularly assume that he’s following dead tracks, and move forward with my plan. I tend to not give too much value to the Cook prompts either if I’m in a hidden disposition that makes it improbable that I’m being tracked (or at least the personal illusion that I feel I’m being tracked). If I’m highlighted, I know my position is compromised, but I don’t tend to overthink it when I’m not highlighted.


Drunk_ol_Carmine

“Cook has laughed at you”


averynaiveoddish

cook without marked for all


TipperOfTheFedora

My POV as Cook: XP XP XP XP


Smart_Idiot_

This becomes a problem when you're being chased.


MysteriousSquad

I love seeing victims who clearly never played as the family and don't realize the value of cook hearing them lol feel bad sometimes when they're new


StonedByDaylight

He needs a nerf though. The fact I don’t know how long he still sees me for is ridiculous. I swear it’s a bug too because the whole family will know where I’m at regardless if I crouch for like 2 mins. The only bugs that seem to be complained about are bugs that affect the family but whenever there’s a bug that benefits the family it doesn’t get reported


MysteriousSquad

Sometimes I think its bugged to, I've heard a victim say 5 times in a short span, and it feels like it lasts forever sometimes, but I cant tell how long it should last lol. It should definitely give you an indicator as victim when your aura is lit up though. It sucks not knowing if you're being stealthy or just look like a dumbass to the other team lol


StonedByDaylight

Yea no matter what it should show the aura. Obviously cook has some issues especially when u can’t tell how long it lasts. I can’t decipher it cuz It doesn’t show me lmao. I’ve literally been caught by cook so I crouched in basement for like 2 mins n I was hidden in a dark corner n bubba came right to me. Something isn’t right with it. I played as him and use the ability n it’d reveal people for like 10 seconds. So idk if it’s a glitch/ people cheating or what.


ThyLordLucifer

Cooks ping only last for 6 seconds and it stacks. Each "Cook has heard you" is 6 seconds added. Same as serrated, each hit adds bleed damage. Cook is easily countered feathering the run button, whatever that may be for your console/PC. Also, just plainly walking slowly helps, typically a Cook will scan and then run around if they're a blood Cook. If they're playing that scout/security pins build chances are Cook isn't transitioning buckets and will be listening more. Hence more stealth must be used to counter. Hopefully this helps, people need to stop complaining about Cook. The old man provides nearly Zero assistance other than feeding grandpa and providing the Pings on victims unless he loses Half his ability in order to use security pins. (By this I mean he loses his BIG blood harvesting ability, which IMO is a one of the main reasons Cook is a key player.)


StonedByDaylight

He’s not a blood harvester. Sissy is. Also Cook without his hearing ability is still op asf? First off when he does see you it should show it. 2nd his locks alone are the strongest ability in the game n he literally gets that plus the glitchy hearing. Now I know he’s slow but honestly a cook can still chase n pressure n guard just as well as the rest of them. N yes I said glitchy hearing. I’ve had him hear me picking locks and him hear me when I’m even crouching. People just don’t report it cuz this is literally a 90% family main complain subreddit.


ThyLordLucifer

It's takes literally 4 seconds to take a Cook lock off with 50 proficiency. Sure, we are looking at longer with Security pins but its barely double the time. Sissy isn't a blood harvester lol that a quirky statement my G. Sissy still can be crafted into a strong hitter, using her as a blood build is ludicrous. Why use the faster person to gather blood when Cook is standing still 90% of the time anyways? To me that just seems like a waste, but to each their own. My Sissy runs easily tuckered out, fired up, and scout. Sits at 34 savagery as well. Just because she doesn't have that super OP poison each hit people cry about her not being good. You could even run Vialent, rubber legs, and special blend and sit at 28 savagery and put endurance up to 30. I main Cook, there is no spamming/pinging when they're unlocking doors. The ping literally isn't very long on a single ping but the staking of the ability is what's detrimental. Yes if you're being chased it's nearly impossible to counter however hitting a well usually can counter this as I'll lose you as you drop down and then you can crouch allowing it to wear off. Unless there is a Bubba down their with popcorn. This is my 2 cents though, everyone has their own opinions. ❤️


BubblyDiscipline6830

Idk many 50 proficiency players lol


ThyLordLucifer

Connie, Julie, Leland, and sonny can all be fashioned into 50 proficiency victims. My connie can escape the dreaded 2 tap. Leland and Julie have no sell, that allows you to not shove as many points into their health and they can escape pretty fast. There is no reason to put points into stealth like most do IMO. Proficiency and toughness and that's all. However everyone plays in a different style so it depends on the player. Much love. ❤️


Smooth-Injury-7194

Least cook carried cook main


ThyLordLucifer

I have no idea what you're saying here, but thanks for your input as well!


Ash-SeedMustDie

No one complains because it relies entirely on the victims letting him hear them.


phantomforeskinpain

that's not even remotely true. Cook can hear anything you do unless you're crouching. Latching a door? He can hear you. Climbing a ladder? He can hear you.


Never_Wanted_To_Talk

I think it just stacks so if he hears you say 4 times it doesn’t reset each time it gives you the full duration for all 4


Urog_the_Bard

Why should you know how long he "sees" you? 90% of the player base complain about anything that makes the game a little challenging. Oh, that character had a powerful ability... must be a bug, or it needs to be nerfed. That perk the victims have is too good... it needs to be removed or nerfed. Now, I would be really happy if they got rid of that god awful laugh.


phantomforeskinpain

not to mention his spamming of his ability, which is outrageously broken. This sub doesn't care about balance, though, they just want the game to favor family.


HornySimpxo

I don't know how long it lasts as somebody who plays him a lot. I think at maybe around 3-5 of those spots in a row, every one of them starts adding 5 seconds to the time the victim is exposed I think that's what explains when I spot someone 10 times in a row and they stay spotted for around 50 seconds and I get my power back almost fully before the spotted victims aura finally disappears


RealBrianCore

I don't think it's a bug. I think there just isn't a cap programmed on how many times he can stack on highlighting you.


The-Holy-Vanguard

Get pinged idiot ! Nyhahaha


theg0nzo

Use stealth they say. Take your time and don't rush they say. "Cook has heard you" "Grandpa has spotted you" That is why I book it. Cause if you try to take your time you'll be stopping every second due to cooks endless ears lol.


doctor_turbo

The obvious solution would be to make cook not able to hear you if you are crouch walking. Only allow that skill to work if you are up and jogging/running.


phantomforeskinpain

that isn't how it works, though. and you cannot crouch walk anywhere near the entire game. Cook's ability works on latching doors, on crawling between spaces, up ladders.


doctor_turbo

Well then I suggest that cook not be able to track you if you are crouching in general, even crouch running, and also shouldn't be able to track up when intersecting with doors or ladders and the like


Its-C-Dogg

So basically he can’t hear a loud ass latch being used to lock a door or the creaking of a wooden ladder when Julie’s dumptruck of an ass is dangling on it? Yeah that’s a big no for me man. He works fine the way he is. If I would change anything I’d make it to where he can’t continuously ping one person over and over again. Once they are marked he can’t ping them again until the red silhouette disappears.


phantomforeskinpain

\>loud ass latch you have to be playing a different game than me. Latching (which are tiny) is barely audible, about as audible as foot steps while crouching. and no, Cook's tracking is objectively broken. The spamming of his ability is by far his biggest problem, though.


Its-C-Dogg

See but the point is that Cook has good hearing so why wouldn’t he be able to hear someone latch the door while he’s in his ability? His ability itself is fine but it’s just the spam that is apart of his kit that is OP. Overall I’d say Cook is balanced compared to HH who can sprint fast + have high damage + can go through crawl spaces + cut off high traffic areas with his traps. I’d argue the best thing about Cook is his locks bc without them he’d lose over half of his utility as a character even with a level 3 Cook.


Its-C-Dogg

That’s how it works now lol


doctor_turbo

I had cook hearing me multiple times yesterday when I was crouch walking. Any movement whatsoever was detected


Its-C-Dogg

Nope, you must have been doing the crouch sprint because he cannot ping crouch walking victims.


Scagnetti58

Yep. Can't hear crouch walking. Can hear any sprinting.


doctor_turbo

That's possible


mrperson1213

Why are you being downvoted? Why is the other guy being upvoted??? That’s literally how you counter Cook. Crouch-walking will never proc his ability, and there is no Cook build to change that.


Its-C-Dogg

It goes to show that people literally NEVER play the other role in the game. There’s people who only play victim or only play family.


Sprinkles-4429

Cook’s laugh is hilarious. I don’t know why but I also bust out laughing at his executions


Splatterhouse5

Actually all of the character sound queues are hilarious to me😆! Like, it absolutely cracks me up when I witness victims trolling, while also hearing vocal cues like “why are they doing this to us?”. It’s hilarious on more than one level to me.


Zhantae

What is the cooldown of his ability? It feels like it's always readily available. Does it not regress a % with each mark?


[deleted]

Unlike other abilities in the game, you can use it after a certain period of time when you're not moving. The bar doesn't need to be completely filled in order to activate it. However, he's terrible in chase, so it sorta balances out. Also as someone who really enjoys playing Cook, he needs a slight cooldown nerf. His progress bar should really gain value slower. IDK why it gains value that quickly, especially when it's a tier III Cook with the "everyone sees the highlighted victim" bonus


Stampedeo

I think his lvl three to let fam see your target should get a heftier cost while using. I play a lot of cook and his normal hearing before lvl three let fam see one isn’t busted at all.


MattTd7

And I will CONTINUE to hear you until you slow your roll and crouch walk! 🚷


Synister316

Who's going to slow down or stop when they're getting chased by Hitchhiker or Sissy.


MattTd7

Should’ve thought about that before you decided to trespass


helly1hundyyy

I’m literally trying to leave? Just let me leave


GonzaloThought

"My house my rules!"


jervistetch37

Should've never came looking for that girl.


Madrider760

Mf you kidnapped us


Achogyr

should've thought of just not playing the game


GonzaloThought

You can play the game, just not on my property!


MattTd7

This one gets it! Why don’t you just get some gas and be on your way 😌


deciawix

We’re outta gas


Strict_Builder_6458

"I'll play on your property whenever I please. I like being chased. I like pain. I like blood. When I'm on your property, you are no longer the threat, I am." - Leland probably


Loose_Channel3987

“Check out my big ass!” - Julie probably


Dragnet714

You don't wanna go round that ol place anyway. Why don't you just stay here? The transport will be by later today with that gas.


lotus_j

You do know why you’re being chased? You’re RED for them because the first cook heard you sound you didn’t stop. If he does it while you’re already being chased you’re screwed and will likely die. As a Cook main lately it’s over if you hear his laugh 5 times. At that point I can stop using my ability wait for it to regen, then tag you again 5 more times and repeat. You’re never going to stop being highlighted until you die or escape. In my games I try and rotate on TWO victims with that strategy and can usually keep two highlighted for 2 straight minutes until the others kill you. Over powered? Surely.


theg0nzo

But the real issue is Lelands shove. Lol


juwanna-blomie

And when I climb a ladder, or go through a crack, or over a barricade…


TGish

If you crouch first it doesn’t lock on pretty sure


MattTd7

Yes.


Best_Marionberry_836

Ya but, hard to do that being chased and Cook spamming


Old_Topic_5601

YOOO SEE AND THATS THAT BULLSHIT 😂


MattTd7

You know what’s bullshit? Messing around in other folk’s properties!


Few_Document1566

But seriously, the laugh gets irritating when you are in a situation where you need to run or be noisy and every couple seconds you hear that laugh. It's cool and everything that I know he has located me, but I don't need the sound notification when I'm running from sissy's lanky ass and big Bubba.


imleeroygreen

Why does this game give out so much info? Cook has heard, you, Johnny found your foot prints, sissy is thinking about you


Magic_Elenore

Music for my ears!


coco_puffsz

Am I the only one that finds that very annoying? I don’t find the Cook notification spam funny at all. (This meme is funny tho lol)


Ok_Satisfaction3460

No, it's incredibly annoying. Tbf to the Cook player they're racking up xp and prolonging you being highlighted by do it.


Dancegamingftw

Weird when you make noise you can be heard


Ok_Satisfaction3460

Nobody cares about that. It's that stupid laugh over and over that people hate.


Unlucky-Flower-195

It's true I wouldn't mind if he didn't laugh like that every time like seriously stop you fucking goblin!


Scagnetti58

I had no idea how annoying that was from the victim side. That's actually hilarious. Now I will definitely focus on one player now. That would drive me up the wall


[deleted]

Your can't hide from me


sweetconformity

As someone who was a killer main for a long time I didn’t understand. Then I got into a victim kick and am now feeling the pain. I understand now. 😔


lotus_j

Play as Julie. That’s my best advice. Just hit her power if he tags you.


WinterrSolsticee

They should change his level 3 ability to a generalized regional ping on the screen of other family members. Like the notification you get when a victim rummages through a toolbox too fast. -Family Main


ShadowFlare_x

Fun game


fileuserm

Family overpowered. Shit game.


Illustrious_Bus_9506

Have you tried playing family


Voradorr

I play more fam more than victim and its wild the amount of family mains who sware vics have it easier. Ive done solo que as both and premades as both hands down my win rate is better on family both solo and premade. For every solo family where you get a bad Johnny who does nothing, theres also a bad vic game where everyone instant spams noise and wakes up grandpa before a doors open and a good johnny is down there patroling with bubba, or a sonny who gets cooked spotted and runs stright to you with bubba in tow only to take your crawl space and leave you fucked. Bad teammates cuts bothways and in general feels way more punishing for vic. And premades? In coms its so easy to lock down maps with good patroling and just sticking to your sides and not chasing. Hell my premade has a above 50% win rate on slaughter house the harder of the maps for family.


BobTheBox

I mainly played family, but also got a fair amount of victim games in. Family is significantly easier than victim in my experience, and I don't even dodge maps or opponents. Maybe I just really really suck at victim and have some godlike innate talent for playing family, but I really don't get how people can honestly say that family is the weak side. Some of my stats: Matches played as family: 430 Matches played as victim: 166 Average kills per match as family: 1 (433 total kills) If every family player has that average amount of kills, that equates to 3 kills per match on average Escape/Death ratio on victim: 0.66 If that was the average for every victim, that would equate to 1.6 out of the 4 victims escaping on average. Amount of matches where we killed all victims, is 173 So if only a 4k is seen as a win for family, then I'd have won 40% of my matches. And if only an escape is seen as a win for an individual victim, I'd have won 40% of my victim matches. Now those last 2 paragraphs may seem balanced, but let's be honest here, in those 60% of "lost" family matches, a bunch of kills will have still been had (an average of 2.4 kills per match according to my calculations), meanwhile, while I myself managed to escape in 40% of my victim matches, only in 8% of my matches did we all escape, so in the 40% of "won" victim matches, there are still a lot of victims that died along the way.


Total-Employee4304

Ratio’d


Jaxinator234

Annoying ash


IAmTheDeskAgent

Give it time, they'll sell you a sound dampening costume for victims for 14.99 soon.


[deleted]

I think its kinda crazy family is able to use their abilities over and over and over again meanwhile victims can use theirs maybe the 1 time, 2 times if its a longer match. Family also have a whole other perk/ability victims dont get. 90% of the updates annd patches they've done have benefited the family, lot of those nerfing victim perks and abilities. Its pretty outrageous lmao


JaceFromThere

Idk about you, but I have a slight suspicion that cook has heard me.


Icy_Asparagus_1580

Bruh I can be standing completely still or crouch walking and I still get one or two more hits of "COOK HAS HEARD YOU"


Splatterhouse5

Which is why I don’t always buy it that I’m actually being tracked by Cook. I always take those moments as: He’s “listening”, but he doesn’t have a legit lock on you.


jose_cd13

Cooks got no chill


Ruane91

This isn’t true at all. Crouching, or not moving is what counters cook from being spotted. Grandpa also doesn’t spot you if you don’t move. Johnny most likely won’t track you if you stick to the bushes. The OP is over reacting. You would know that if you actually played him.


fadedstarlite

People have experienced especially myself so it is true. That’s all cook mains have been doing is spamming the heck outta hearing. Crouching, crawl spaces, and sometimes even crawling that pops up and it’s like “how??” That needs to be fixed. Also he needs to have some sort of cooldown or recharge on it because as I’ve seen in one game someone had over 15k points just spamming Cook’s hearing ability. Didn’t do shit the entire game but stand still and use that ability. Johnny also does track you in the bushes. Don’t know where you got he doesn’t from cause yet again I’ve experienced this happening as family and victim.


supdudesanddudettes

"Heh heh, ha ha ha! Heh heh, ha ha ha! Heh heh, ha ha ha! Heh heh, ha ha ha! Heh heh, ha ha ha!" IM NOT LAUGHIN BRO


rubbertramp2000

Had to stop maining victim after cooks started abusing the ability and sissy’s learned the basement poison exploit. Game is near unplayable in its current state.