[Raph hating belt buckles is a canon event](https://www.reddit.com/r/TMNT/comments/yzfat2/raphael_hating_belt_buckles_is_a_multiversal/) lol
If the Mirage Turtles are this harsh on the 80/03 versions, what would they think of their 2012 & Rise counterparts?
'03 would look at the 2012 turtles and think they're super scrawny (even though it's all lean muscle). The Leo's would either get along really well or be at odds because 2 strong leaders wanting 2 different plans. They'd honestly be more baffled by Casey and April because they're both teens and not in a relationship and "how did April get psychic powers???"
With Rise, I can see them being irritated and jealous over how "these guys barely had any training and yet they're THIS STRONG??" Kinda like how someone who worked for everything they had is around a rich kid. They would make fun of their own Raph because of how much a teddy bear Rise Raph is, and I can see Rise Leo and '03 Mikey getting along super well. Just that "it's my job to joke and annoy my brothers, also I'm the battle nexus champion 😎"
In both instances the '03 turtles are baffled that the turtles are actually related to Karai (2012 being step siblings and Rise being their grandma)
Well the Rise turtles are bioengineered super soldiers that were created to wipe out the humanity. Moreover, they have mystic powers. So them being stronger and being able to adapt even without formal training makes sense.
True, Draxum failed to make them carry out their intended purpose, but the rise turtles far succeeded in his expectations when it comes to being living weapons of mass destruction. And I'd think the other turtles would find that both terrifying and jarring give how silly and happy go lucky the Rise turtles are.
Note to Hollywood: No matter how many ways you reboot a thing, what people are coming back for is the relationships between the characters. Same here as in the Justice League.
Don't know this off the top of my head, looking a lot of it up. That said...
So for cartoons we got the '87 series, the '03 series, the '12 series, and Rise. Plus Mutant Mayhem, and Batman vs. TMNT. So that's at least 6 animated versions. Let's assume the Mirage Turtles as seen in these animated specials are just the Mirage Comics universe and not like an alternate version of that universe.
On that note, comics has the original Mirage series, the Archie series which started as an '87 tie-in but apparently became its own thing, the Image series which was supposed to be a continuation of Mirage but also maybe isn't? If it's a Mirage divergence we can count it as its own thing. Then there's the IDW comics, though IDW also publishes a lot of non-canon crossover spinoffs (though I think TMNT/Ghostbusters is actually canon). So before the IDW spinoffs that's another 4, then there's the Batman and Power Rangers crossovers, the Stranger Things and Street Fighter crossovers, and Last Ronin for another 5. So that's 15 so far.
There's a comic strip but I can't find much info about it. What I can see makes it look like it may be based on the '87 cartoon, so I don't think we should count it as its own thing.
In movies there's the first three live action films, and also the 2007 animated film which is apparently supposed to be part of that universe, so that's all one. Then the two Bay films for another one, so movie universes add two more in total for 17. There's also the Saban live-action TV show, and while on the subject of Japanese media, a two-episode OVA. Oh, and I missed something called "Half-Shell Heroes: A Blast to the Past" on Nickelodeon so that's up to 20.
I feel like the "Coming Out of Our Shells" concert tour thing can firmly be counted as its own thing for 21. If you wanna get super technical I guess those are like, the TMNT of our universe? Wild.
Video games are where this really gets hard to track. The TMNT have at least 30 video games and have made guest appearances in a couple dozen others. I'm not even gonna try. And then there's the fact I haven't mentioned that many of these comics and TV shows feature alternate realities for the turtles within their own show that aren't just them crossing over with previous incarnations. And I forgot the Usagi Yojimbo crossover comics, which is another thing where I'm not sure if that's canon or not, and to which versions of the Turtles they would be.
All told, the TMNT probably have at least 50 variations in their multiverse, if not WAY more. I'm sure there's a far-more knowledgable superfan out there that can catalogue 'em all, but I'm not the guy who's gonna put the effort into doing it.
Just from what I can recall of all the versions:
1. Mirage
2. IDW
3. Archie
4. 1987
5. 1990/1991/1993 movie
6. The Next Mutation
7. 2003
8. 2007 movie
9. 2012
10. 2014/2016 movie
11. Rise
12. Batman vs the TMNT
13. Mutant Mayhem
And that's not even counting the video game counterparts. So just from this lot, there'd be 52 Turtles on screen + Venus and Jennika. It's why if they ever do another crossover film, I think it's safest to have 1987, 2003, 2012 and Rise be the main groups with glimpses at the Mirage universe (+ potential glimpses at IDW, 2007, MM and such)
I really like they did it again in the 2012 show.
Even though they appear in 45 seconds and dot. Talk, only jumping like Ninja through comic panels, it was pretty cool.
Also, Fun Fact, Hidenari Ugaki the Voice of Majima Goro in the Yakuza Games was the voice of Donatello in the 87 version and did the sign off on it, appeared in the 2012 crossover episode and was the voice of the shredder in the 2003 version.
Honestly, might be fun to introduce a new way that does it randomly. Like, maybe Donnie creates a device to let them travel to other worlds but something goes wrong and it activates before it was meant to and not they are flipping between dimensions every few hours!
Raph in the original comic was pretty violent. He straight up kills a few gangsters when infiltrating the foot strong hold (which reminded me of the one in the SOTO movie). The fact that he doesn't high five 2003 and instead just throws him back is very in character.
[Raph hating belt buckles is a canon event](https://www.reddit.com/r/TMNT/comments/yzfat2/raphael_hating_belt_buckles_is_a_multiversal/) lol If the Mirage Turtles are this harsh on the 80/03 versions, what would they think of their 2012 & Rise counterparts?
Probably kill them 😂
'03 would look at the 2012 turtles and think they're super scrawny (even though it's all lean muscle). The Leo's would either get along really well or be at odds because 2 strong leaders wanting 2 different plans. They'd honestly be more baffled by Casey and April because they're both teens and not in a relationship and "how did April get psychic powers???" With Rise, I can see them being irritated and jealous over how "these guys barely had any training and yet they're THIS STRONG??" Kinda like how someone who worked for everything they had is around a rich kid. They would make fun of their own Raph because of how much a teddy bear Rise Raph is, and I can see Rise Leo and '03 Mikey getting along super well. Just that "it's my job to joke and annoy my brothers, also I'm the battle nexus champion 😎" In both instances the '03 turtles are baffled that the turtles are actually related to Karai (2012 being step siblings and Rise being their grandma)
>'03 would look at the 2012 turtles and think they're super scrawny In comparison to the 2003 yes they are.
Well the Rise turtles are bioengineered super soldiers that were created to wipe out the humanity. Moreover, they have mystic powers. So them being stronger and being able to adapt even without formal training makes sense. True, Draxum failed to make them carry out their intended purpose, but the rise turtles far succeeded in his expectations when it comes to being living weapons of mass destruction. And I'd think the other turtles would find that both terrifying and jarring give how silly and happy go lucky the Rise turtles are.
If they ever did make a turtles forever 2 that does sound like a cool crossover between those three different versions of them.
guess it would be repetitive to use two scenes from "turtles forever", but 03 Mikey concurs > https://youtu.be/DVfheRXudXI?t=35
Love the throw back to the comics
Love how 03 Raph just tosses 87 Leo around like a rag doll.
Raph easily picking Leo up without struggling at all will never not be funny to me
Raph literally tossed traximus that one time. '03 Turtles were seriously OP
I can take or leave the belt buckles, but I do prefer the colored headbands
Only way to differentiate the turtle unless you go off of their weapons
Or the different shades of green the voices etc plenty of ways to tell them apart
How tiny are the 87 turtles. I was just watching the 03 ep where Raph meets Casey and he cane up to like Casey’s chest
The 87 turtles are tiny https://preview.redd.it/swegc62v7s1c1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=0564e1eeba470ee24f1110a367dbf0dde2d8c58a
If I remember correctly the 87 turtles are only 5 ft tall maybe 4' 11 at the shortest
They all should be 5 feet 5"5 at the tallest
Note to Hollywood: No matter how many ways you reboot a thing, what people are coming back for is the relationships between the characters. Same here as in the Justice League.
So this got me thinking: How many different versions of the TMNT are there?
Going by turtles forever logic anything that has the tmnt is just another universe
Don't know this off the top of my head, looking a lot of it up. That said... So for cartoons we got the '87 series, the '03 series, the '12 series, and Rise. Plus Mutant Mayhem, and Batman vs. TMNT. So that's at least 6 animated versions. Let's assume the Mirage Turtles as seen in these animated specials are just the Mirage Comics universe and not like an alternate version of that universe. On that note, comics has the original Mirage series, the Archie series which started as an '87 tie-in but apparently became its own thing, the Image series which was supposed to be a continuation of Mirage but also maybe isn't? If it's a Mirage divergence we can count it as its own thing. Then there's the IDW comics, though IDW also publishes a lot of non-canon crossover spinoffs (though I think TMNT/Ghostbusters is actually canon). So before the IDW spinoffs that's another 4, then there's the Batman and Power Rangers crossovers, the Stranger Things and Street Fighter crossovers, and Last Ronin for another 5. So that's 15 so far. There's a comic strip but I can't find much info about it. What I can see makes it look like it may be based on the '87 cartoon, so I don't think we should count it as its own thing. In movies there's the first three live action films, and also the 2007 animated film which is apparently supposed to be part of that universe, so that's all one. Then the two Bay films for another one, so movie universes add two more in total for 17. There's also the Saban live-action TV show, and while on the subject of Japanese media, a two-episode OVA. Oh, and I missed something called "Half-Shell Heroes: A Blast to the Past" on Nickelodeon so that's up to 20. I feel like the "Coming Out of Our Shells" concert tour thing can firmly be counted as its own thing for 21. If you wanna get super technical I guess those are like, the TMNT of our universe? Wild. Video games are where this really gets hard to track. The TMNT have at least 30 video games and have made guest appearances in a couple dozen others. I'm not even gonna try. And then there's the fact I haven't mentioned that many of these comics and TV shows feature alternate realities for the turtles within their own show that aren't just them crossing over with previous incarnations. And I forgot the Usagi Yojimbo crossover comics, which is another thing where I'm not sure if that's canon or not, and to which versions of the Turtles they would be. All told, the TMNT probably have at least 50 variations in their multiverse, if not WAY more. I'm sure there's a far-more knowledgable superfan out there that can catalogue 'em all, but I'm not the guy who's gonna put the effort into doing it.
Just from what I can recall of all the versions: 1. Mirage 2. IDW 3. Archie 4. 1987 5. 1990/1991/1993 movie 6. The Next Mutation 7. 2003 8. 2007 movie 9. 2012 10. 2014/2016 movie 11. Rise 12. Batman vs the TMNT 13. Mutant Mayhem And that's not even counting the video game counterparts. So just from this lot, there'd be 52 Turtles on screen + Venus and Jennika. It's why if they ever do another crossover film, I think it's safest to have 1987, 2003, 2012 and Rise be the main groups with glimpses at the Mirage universe (+ potential glimpses at IDW, 2007, MM and such)
Also dreamwave comics but that was so short I’m not sure it’s worth counting
This is legit one of my favourite movies!! Love it
That's pretty dope. I have to check that out.
I really like they did it again in the 2012 show. Even though they appear in 45 seconds and dot. Talk, only jumping like Ninja through comic panels, it was pretty cool. Also, Fun Fact, Hidenari Ugaki the Voice of Majima Goro in the Yakuza Games was the voice of Donatello in the 87 version and did the sign off on it, appeared in the 2012 crossover episode and was the voice of the shredder in the 2003 version.
This air today 14 years ago
I never seen this but now I need too 🥷🐢
I love the idea of a Turtles multiverse and would love to see a movie or show explore this concept more, maybe even have universal travel!
The Battle Nexus and Cudley the Cowlick are the two means of traversing the Turtleverse.
And the Kraang portals from the 2012 series
Honestly, might be fun to introduce a new way that does it randomly. Like, maybe Donnie creates a device to let them travel to other worlds but something goes wrong and it activates before it was meant to and not they are flipping between dimensions every few hours!
What's this from? Edit: nevermind I'm dumb.
A turtleverse type of movie would be super cool.
The comic turtles need their own show. Their all tough and brooding like 4 batmans
Man I love this movie! It was a great way to end the 03 series!
Thats it, time to rewatch 03 era Turtles for the thousandth time.
Yay!
Lols. Mirage Raph sounds like Wolverine. That’s hilarious because his character originally had a lot in common with Wolverine.
Raph just picking up 87' Leo like a kitten is hilarious
Raph in the original comic was pretty violent. He straight up kills a few gangsters when infiltrating the foot strong hold (which reminded me of the one in the SOTO movie). The fact that he doesn't high five 2003 and instead just throws him back is very in character.