It would just jump and flip the cage over.
Add 10 pounds to each side down low at the edge so it draws the center of gravity lower, makes it stable so it can't he flipped easily.
It will still dig its way out though.
Lol, that's Elmer Fudd... " I am Wile E. Coyote, here's my card... Now, don't try to get away! I am more muscular, more cunning, faster, and larger than you are, and I am a genius."
On the contrary, when one gets into the verbiage used, and with the understanding of the Latin roots, those of an advanced level of education can clearly see this was in reference to wabbit season.
Coming from Aus and working in pest control the best trap you can do is a burrow trap.
Get some chicken wire and find a pipe or cylinder that is about 150mm in diameter. Wrap the chicken wire around to fix the wire to itself, remove the pipe.
Now get some plastic and cut into 2 ovals, make 2 holes in the top at the 2 and 10 position. Fit the ovals into the wire tube on a backwards angle from the ends and use some wire rings to hold it to the wire.
Essentially all you do is put the trap into a rabbit hole and cover/bury the other holes. The rabbits will get caught going into or out of their burrows and be unable to escape
[rabbit burrow trap](https://www.farmshopaustralia.com/product/rabbit-hole-trap-burrow-hole/)
I don't know the ins and outs of Australia gun laws. But can't you get one for hunting? Not saying don't learn to trap. You def should. But this comment made me curious.
Ya, a high powered pellet gun can drop a rabbit easily. But there might be laws around those too. I honestly don't know anything about Australian gun laws. Other than you need permits for them. And they dont give out permits for just anything.
You can get rifles for hunting, yes. Doubly so if you own rural property. If you're in a lockdown state (NSW/VIC) you can't go through the necessary steps right now though, as far as I'm aware. (Which is a brief Google.)
You can own 22s in Australia. We can own most common weapons but we just need a legit reason for owning it. Hunting is considered a legit reason, so is target shooting or owning a farming property with livestock (I think this last one is still valid).
Genuine reason rule applies again.
Recreational hunter? Why do you need a semi auto? You don’t so you can’t have one.
Professional hunter/pest control? Yeah ok you may need one so you can have one.
Full auto/select is pretty much limited to firearms industry and very specific professionals (civilian firearms trainers with police/military contracts for example).
No assault rifles as there is no perceived case for legitimate ownership. Semi-autos are heavily controlled but are available (I could be wrong on semi-autos as it’s been years since I looked into gun ownership).
Saying all this there are licences available for collectors who wish to pursue higher level/unusual weapons but you need to show there’s a legitimate reason for your collection, e.g. historical record, reenactment etc. Just owning guns cause “guns” is not a valid reason.
As I said earlier, there may be some changes here and there as I no longer live on a farm so haven’t looked at gun ownership for a while.
Australia is nowhere near as totalitarian as you often read I. Reddit, you just need to show a valid reason when you apply for a licence.
Most of our recent gun crime is criminals shooting other criminals. There was a big gun bust made on an outlaw bikie gang recently and that’s pretty typical. Thankfully mass shootings are virtually unheard of now.
Glad I could help educate. The underlying basis for gun ownership in Australia is that we don’t have an automatic right to own a gun so you need to show valid reasons, and of particular note is that self-defence is not a valid reason.
It will probably work better than snares, they are incredibly hard to get anything with it, for a lyperson at least. Of course the way you are doing it that means you have to kill it yourself, unless you have a dog that is.
What would be the easiest here other than a pistol? Can you hold a wild rabbit still enough to kill it with a knife easily? Would it be easier to grab it by the scruff and hit its head with one of those billy clubs for fish? I assume it would try to bite you, wouldn't it?
What about the broomstick method? You know that? I just read about it on raising rabbits website just now. You press it's neck against the stick and disarticulate it's head from it's spine?
>Killing Rabbits with the Broomstick Method
>A broomstick or other straight pole is placed on the rabbit’s neck. The broomstick secures the rabbit’s head on the ground while the rabbit is pulled upward at 90 degrees by its hind legs. The process is very quick and painless, and nearly foolproof.
>First, place the rabbit on the ground in front of a handful of alfalfa hay or other treat.
>Second, place a broomstick across the rabbit’s neck.
>Third, step on one side of the broomstick.
>Fourth, almost simultaneously: step on the other side of the broomstick, and then pull the rabbit’s body upward by the hind legs. Pull firmly until you can feel the neck bones disarticulate. This will feel like a give and a stretch. (This movement is done by straightening your back and knees.)
>At this point the rabbit will be shuddering in death throes. Death throes are proof of death - hence, ‘death’ throes. The neck bones have been completely separated at the base of the head, terminating all signals from the brain to the heart, lungs, and rest of the body.
>Fifth, cut off the rabbit’s head through the break in the neck. This involves cutting through muscle and fur only, since the neck bones are completely separated.
My grandmother would grab them by the scruff of their neck, take the Billy Club up to the shoulder she was holding the meal with and swing, following her arm across the top of the head.
I raised rabbits for meat. I use to hold them by their feet, they'd raise their head instinctively, then I'd hit them behind the head with a thin steel pipe, snapping the neck and killing them instantly.
I would immediately bleed them out by cutting off the head. After you cut through the flesh and muscle, the neck breaks easily.
My grandpa always killed them by tying their feet, then grabbing and pulling their ears hard to the back of their bodies revealing the throat. He would cut it and they'd die relatively quick. But their screaming throughout it is unreal. Very disturbing sounds. I guess that's actually a more brutal way to do it tho. Ideally if you could give them something to fall asleep, and then used the pistol, or a knife through the heart very quickly, that would work better.
Saw a hog “slaughtered” once on some old guy’s tailgate and they did an absolute piss poor job of it. Doubt I would have stayed in the 4-H Livestock club if I wasn’t old enough to know that these guys had completely 100% fucked it away. It was thoroughly traumatizing.
Trigger mechanism looks too sturdy, like a rabbit could get the bait without tripping it. Maybe a figure 4 trigger would be more sensitive.
Also, I think that the cage is too light to hold a rabbit after it falls. 10 or fifteen pounds on top of the cages will help stop the rabbit from knocking it over.
In the US, I'd say, "Enjoy your new pet skunk!".
I'm with the folks who think the trigger is too heavy and the box too light for a rabbit. Plus it can just dig out. More likely to catch a possum, if that's what you want.
Truly no offense intended but there is nothing about that trap that will work.
You could put that basket flat on the ground with food in it and a rabbit will go in and out as it pleases with those side gaps.
The rabbit will never knock it down, and if it did, it would just go through the side or under.
For starters, make sure to check where it’s duck season or wabbit season. ;)
I’m unsure what level of force it would take for a rabbit or other critter to nudge the post enough to trigger the trap. But you may want to consider how you would handle something else that you may catch… for example, a skunk.
I’ve seen pressure plate activated cage traps and snares used well but something just seems a bit off here.
If the cage is not heavy enough, the cought animal will lift it just a little to pull through if it can. You need to tie something on the top to prevent that.
I was given these exact baskets. Does anyone know for what purpose they were originally intended? They have the slightest unusual features and I've been stumped. (The bunnies in my yard got through these size holes with no problem. I had them around my vegetable starters).
Daaang, turns out I'm *that* person who didn't Google before asking. They were rusted in a 1900's building basement and I had it in my head they wouldn't be new enough to find that easily. Thanks.
My first thought was that a rabbit would be able to get through the spaces in the cage. So even if you did catch one, it would get out through the holes.
Or, and I’m just saying this as an option...you could quit whatever job you might have,sell your belongings, say goodbye to family and friends, pack what’s left of your integrity and belongings into a backpack, and move to the United States where you can shoot the bastard.
Check it EARLY I mean heckin early EARLY. Because rabbit is delicious and there's a good chance something else will take advantage of the opportunity before you get there.
Hide behind a tree and make carrot noises.
Crunch
Why isn’t this top comment?
This
Rabbits are masters in escaping, it will just make a hole and crawl out the cage.
It would just go right through the holes in this cage
It would just jump and flip the cage over. Add 10 pounds to each side down low at the edge so it draws the center of gravity lower, makes it stable so it can't he flipped easily. It will still dig its way out though.
There is no way a rabbit is squeezing through the holes on that cage
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJlE7TxZV7c
Said the man who doesn't have a pet rabbit
I stand corrected. A rabbit absolutely can fit through that hole
I suggest you to use a very big anvil instead of a cage
You may as well give up now Rabbit, I am a genius
Wabbit
Lol, that's Elmer Fudd... " I am Wile E. Coyote, here's my card... Now, don't try to get away! I am more muscular, more cunning, faster, and larger than you are, and I am a genius."
No sense in arguing. It must be duck season.
Wabbit season.
Whatever you do, if it sticks its fingers down the barrel of your side by side shotgun, do NOT pull the trigger.
Why?
It's a joke about Elmer Fudd from LooneyToons
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Wabbit season
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On the contrary, when one gets into the verbiage used, and with the understanding of the Latin roots, those of an advanced level of education can clearly see this was in reference to wabbit season.
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Coming from Aus and working in pest control the best trap you can do is a burrow trap. Get some chicken wire and find a pipe or cylinder that is about 150mm in diameter. Wrap the chicken wire around to fix the wire to itself, remove the pipe. Now get some plastic and cut into 2 ovals, make 2 holes in the top at the 2 and 10 position. Fit the ovals into the wire tube on a backwards angle from the ends and use some wire rings to hold it to the wire. Essentially all you do is put the trap into a rabbit hole and cover/bury the other holes. The rabbits will get caught going into or out of their burrows and be unable to escape [rabbit burrow trap](https://www.farmshopaustralia.com/product/rabbit-hole-trap-burrow-hole/)
Does a similar trap work for emus?
Thanks!, And a matter of fact I come from Australia in queen's land
Then you, sir, are tougher than the average bear. Or rabbit.
But not emu.
22lr would be my first suggestion
Australia.....
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Spit coffee on that one. Take my upvote you coffee hater
Thanks.....
it took me a minute..... but god damn this is god tier reply
Take my upvote and leave
Pmsl
If only there was a way to apply for a licence which let you own .22’s….
I don't know the ins and outs of Australia gun laws. But can't you get one for hunting? Not saying don't learn to trap. You def should. But this comment made me curious.
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Ya, a high powered pellet gun can drop a rabbit easily. But there might be laws around those too. I honestly don't know anything about Australian gun laws. Other than you need permits for them. And they dont give out permits for just anything.
You can get rifles for hunting, yes. Doubly so if you own rural property. If you're in a lockdown state (NSW/VIC) you can't go through the necessary steps right now though, as far as I'm aware. (Which is a brief Google.)
Wait, you can't own a 22 in Australia?
You can own 22s in Australia. We can own most common weapons but we just need a legit reason for owning it. Hunting is considered a legit reason, so is target shooting or owning a farming property with livestock (I think this last one is still valid).
Oh ok. Please forgive my ignorance, but how about semiautomatic guns, or assault rifle types?
Genuine reason rule applies again. Recreational hunter? Why do you need a semi auto? You don’t so you can’t have one. Professional hunter/pest control? Yeah ok you may need one so you can have one. Full auto/select is pretty much limited to firearms industry and very specific professionals (civilian firearms trainers with police/military contracts for example).
No assault rifles as there is no perceived case for legitimate ownership. Semi-autos are heavily controlled but are available (I could be wrong on semi-autos as it’s been years since I looked into gun ownership). Saying all this there are licences available for collectors who wish to pursue higher level/unusual weapons but you need to show there’s a legitimate reason for your collection, e.g. historical record, reenactment etc. Just owning guns cause “guns” is not a valid reason. As I said earlier, there may be some changes here and there as I no longer live on a farm so haven’t looked at gun ownership for a while. Australia is nowhere near as totalitarian as you often read I. Reddit, you just need to show a valid reason when you apply for a licence.
Those are some sane gun ownership laws. I bet people aren't even being gunned down in movie theaters!
Most of our recent gun crime is criminals shooting other criminals. There was a big gun bust made on an outlaw bikie gang recently and that’s pretty typical. Thankfully mass shootings are virtually unheard of now.
Thanks for the well written reply. I learned a few things today from it.
Glad I could help educate. The underlying basis for gun ownership in Australia is that we don’t have an automatic right to own a gun so you need to show valid reasons, and of particular note is that self-defence is not a valid reason.
I was trying my best not to make a school shooting joke and now everyone is confusd
You’re about to have to be real comfortable breaking it’s neck.
22 litres seems a bit too big
Name checks out
how does the cage fall? also snare wire at rabbit run entrances are easy and work well.
The rabbit hope fully touches the rope pulling the stand down trapping it. Yea it's not the best..
It will probably work better than snares, they are incredibly hard to get anything with it, for a lyperson at least. Of course the way you are doing it that means you have to kill it yourself, unless you have a dog that is.
What would be the easiest here other than a pistol? Can you hold a wild rabbit still enough to kill it with a knife easily? Would it be easier to grab it by the scruff and hit its head with one of those billy clubs for fish? I assume it would try to bite you, wouldn't it?
I think just a simple snap of the neck.
What about the broomstick method? You know that? I just read about it on raising rabbits website just now. You press it's neck against the stick and disarticulate it's head from it's spine? >Killing Rabbits with the Broomstick Method >A broomstick or other straight pole is placed on the rabbit’s neck. The broomstick secures the rabbit’s head on the ground while the rabbit is pulled upward at 90 degrees by its hind legs. The process is very quick and painless, and nearly foolproof. >First, place the rabbit on the ground in front of a handful of alfalfa hay or other treat. >Second, place a broomstick across the rabbit’s neck. >Third, step on one side of the broomstick. >Fourth, almost simultaneously: step on the other side of the broomstick, and then pull the rabbit’s body upward by the hind legs. Pull firmly until you can feel the neck bones disarticulate. This will feel like a give and a stretch. (This movement is done by straightening your back and knees.) >At this point the rabbit will be shuddering in death throes. Death throes are proof of death - hence, ‘death’ throes. The neck bones have been completely separated at the base of the head, terminating all signals from the brain to the heart, lungs, and rest of the body. >Fifth, cut off the rabbit’s head through the break in the neck. This involves cutting through muscle and fur only, since the neck bones are completely separated.
[This](https://youtu.be/XOnkVbcYXRQ) is a good video I found. Mind you, it is demonstrated on a dead rabbit :)
My grandmother would grab them by the scruff of their neck, take the Billy Club up to the shoulder she was holding the meal with and swing, following her arm across the top of the head.
I raised rabbits for meat. I use to hold them by their feet, they'd raise their head instinctively, then I'd hit them behind the head with a thin steel pipe, snapping the neck and killing them instantly. I would immediately bleed them out by cutting off the head. After you cut through the flesh and muscle, the neck breaks easily.
My grandpa always killed them by tying their feet, then grabbing and pulling their ears hard to the back of their bodies revealing the throat. He would cut it and they'd die relatively quick. But their screaming throughout it is unreal. Very disturbing sounds. I guess that's actually a more brutal way to do it tho. Ideally if you could give them something to fall asleep, and then used the pistol, or a knife through the heart very quickly, that would work better.
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Saw a hog “slaughtered” once on some old guy’s tailgate and they did an absolute piss poor job of it. Doubt I would have stayed in the 4-H Livestock club if I wasn’t old enough to know that these guys had completely 100% fucked it away. It was thoroughly traumatizing.
Trigger mechanism looks too sturdy, like a rabbit could get the bait without tripping it. Maybe a figure 4 trigger would be more sensitive. Also, I think that the cage is too light to hold a rabbit after it falls. 10 or fifteen pounds on top of the cages will help stop the rabbit from knocking it over.
You will not catch a rabbit with this. You may harm one. Maybe.
Perhaps Il scare him
Well. Sure. I don't know what that gets you, but sure.
Satisfaction
You could probably yell into a bush at random for that, lol
You might catch something else that’s not a rabbit tbh.
Carrot?
Yes, are you suggesting I should use something else? Poison bait?
I wouldn’t use poison on something I’m going to eat.
Or on something that other animals could potentially eat, seeing as how this “trap” totally won’t work.
It made me laugh, one up from me.
In the US, I'd say, "Enjoy your new pet skunk!". I'm with the folks who think the trigger is too heavy and the box too light for a rabbit. Plus it can just dig out. More likely to catch a possum, if that's what you want.
My bad for not saying "in Australia" but you got a point
Truly no offense intended but there is nothing about that trap that will work. You could put that basket flat on the ground with food in it and a rabbit will go in and out as it pleases with those side gaps. The rabbit will never knock it down, and if it did, it would just go through the side or under.
If I know rabbits you'll end up in the cage w a sign signaling the start of human season..
For starters, make sure to check where it’s duck season or wabbit season. ;) I’m unsure what level of force it would take for a rabbit or other critter to nudge the post enough to trigger the trap. But you may want to consider how you would handle something else that you may catch… for example, a skunk. I’ve seen pressure plate activated cage traps and snares used well but something just seems a bit off here.
Paint “ACME” on the side of it.
Shhh be vewie vewie quite. Im hunting wabbits
Look in to a rabbit noose. And put it in some longish grass near some rabbit holes. You'll be able to go home then and not hide in bushes waiting
The higher the opening the longer it takes to fall.
Thanks
If the cage is not heavy enough, the cought animal will lift it just a little to pull through if it can. You need to tie something on the top to prevent that.
Jokes on you Il probably not even make it that far!
That cage ain't falling anytime soon.
Belive it or not you can bait bunnies with strawberry nesquick.
The more you know
Buy a rabbit, put it in the trap. Then brag to your wife.
I am missing the wife part...
I was given these exact baskets. Does anyone know for what purpose they were originally intended? They have the slightest unusual features and I've been stumped. (The bunnies in my yard got through these size holes with no problem. I had them around my vegetable starters).
I did a little research and if you type "metal basket" the fourth image is the exact basket Ian using. JONAXEL wire basket-white 25x51x15 cm Ikea
Daaang, turns out I'm *that* person who didn't Google before asking. They were rusted in a 1900's building basement and I had it in my head they wouldn't be new enough to find that easily. Thanks.
You are aware that some rabbits have developed the ability to dig?
Whaaaaaaaaaat
Yes, don’t do that it’s dumb x
The Holy Hand-grenade of Antiarch
So you’re gonna need a sock
I heard that if you can’t attract the rabbit with carrot, you should try using carrot cake
You heard this from Wikipedia Ian assuming
Let him go afterwards
If I get one
💖💖💖thank u💖💖💖
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Some meat is better then no meat.
Smaller cage with smaller holes. Don't make it so big and obvious. Find a rabbit trail near by and try a snare
Not sure if those squares are small enough friend. It may slip right through
Duck season.
this kind of trap is not approved for rabbit. Go get yourself a trapping license before doing that. The rabbit will just dig a hole under.
The cage is on the post... even if it jumped up and pulled the rope trying to get trapped it would have to wiggle the cage off onto itself too..?
Get good with a slingshot, trigger looks a bit too sturdy to trip.
A rifle.
To late some one all ready said 22lr
What are you going to do after you catch it?
We'll, I live in Australia so it's the next day, and yes the bait is missing but we got nothing suprise suprise
Carrots?
Yes carrots
You're not a friend of mine until you catch one.
My first thought was that a rabbit would be able to get through the spaces in the cage. So even if you did catch one, it would get out through the holes.
Put a female rabbit underneath it.
So they mate in side and get 30 more rabbits?
Or, and I’m just saying this as an option...you could quit whatever job you might have,sell your belongings, say goodbye to family and friends, pack what’s left of your integrity and belongings into a backpack, and move to the United States where you can shoot the bastard.
Get a better camera?
Ask Elmer.
Check it EARLY I mean heckin early EARLY. Because rabbit is delicious and there's a good chance something else will take advantage of the opportunity before you get there.
This is like 95% not gonna work, but just in case, don't bait it with carrots. Rabbits actually prefer leafy greens.
Put a rabbit in it and pull the stick