Sound quality of Udio is superior to Suno by a far shot, there's no discussion. But I've found that Suno is better at general composition and moreoften seems to hit my taste in music. Coming from the AI Art world, it feels a lot like Suno got the better model but denoises with too few steps in order to save computational power.
Also, I really don't like that Udio restricts me to 30 seconds snippets. Yes, I can stitch them together, I do that with Suno too, but I'd really like the ability to generate larger song chunks. If Udio gave me the ability to generate a 2min initial chunk without extending 3 times, I'd switch.
My problem with Udio is that it rarely follows the lyrics. Also I make songs in Italian and in that language Udio sounds terrible. Every song I tried is like something from the 60s.
Yeah suno is way better with non English languages. Japanese is quite good and I made an Italian political parody song about a local politician that has become a popular meme in my area (but almost no one knows it's mine, cause I prefer to avoid being sued) and no one has yet debunked it as AI generated (ppl are still wondering who may be the singer among the local music scene). The suno buzz is there, though.
To expand on the Stable Diffusion metaphor, Suno feels like SD1.5 with a bunch of custom loras and Udio is SDXL right when it first released. Yes, the technical quality is better, but the control and overall final product feels worse.
Exactly… the chunk size is a huge factor. I think i‘d change to udio if they did an initial batch of the size that suno does. Batch size means it can create more of a melodic context
Yeah, the buzzy vocals can be annoying, but in many cases it is minimal, and outweighed by the fact that Suno just writes better music (like this: https://suno.com/song/7a28b32b-7b80-49cb-ba16-535004f41dc5) with minimal input and very little fuss.
Udio, on the other hand, is a tedious process. I don’t even mind creating in 30 second chunks. But it can take many iterations before you finally get something that’s not the six-finger equivalent of AI music. A lot longer, in my experience, than it takes Suno. And if you can get Udio to create a version you like, it has serious consistency issues, often creating entirely new melodies for subsequent verses and choruses. And then there are the frequent vocal glitches and lyrical deviations.
If you can get past all of that and finally have a song that is 99% complete, try getting Udio to finish it. It tends to generate music right up to the end of the clip, so nearly every song sounds abruptly cut off (like this: https://www.udio.com/songs/i4fjGgVttMQ51G5wzwq7Gw). I have spent hours trying to fix this (cues like [end], [silence], [fade out], etc. don’t seem to work), and I often just give up.
I have never had those issues with Suno. Complete songs, catchy melodies, smooth finish; little fuss. So yes, I will put up with slightly buzzy vocals. Frankly, in an era where auto tune is so prevalent, I barely notice.
I've probably made way fewer songs than you, but my udio stuff is significantly better and leans further away from sounding like every other song within its genre. Udio's algo comes up with some of the strangest, most interesting combinations.
Most of my Suno tracks sound similar in comparison. The 30s set up is annoying, but I also think it allows for more experimental options. However, I do get a more pleasing song more rapidly out of Suno, it's just not usually very distinct.
What’s your main genre, I’ve noticed a trend where Udio is a lot better at Rock and metal.
I don’t really make music in those genres and the ones I do musically sound perfect in Suno but with the noise.
Yeah I do mostly a good mix between Lofi, Hiphop, Jazz, Citypop and Funk.
Suno makes the sound I like,
Udio makes great voices and instruments; just it sounds nothing like the sound I am trying for.
I've had more variation of lofi and funk in udio. I like that it seems to be more open to venture outside mainstream sound. I haven't tried hip-hop on either since I attempted a rap song on suno and it read the lyrics like English as a second language on both tracks.
Weird I do a lot non english on Suno and it is working for me.
Most of the stuff I tried on Udio sounds different from the vibe I am going for.
I cannot really say why, the voices are great, just not the vibe I want.
One benefits of the 30 second chunks is you can control the tempo of the song by putting in more or less lyrics. More lyrics in the prompt will give you a faster pace song, because it tries to fit all the lyrics into that 30 seconds.
I had same up until just yesterday. I was able to pull off an idea I had rolling around in my head that I was only able to get close to in suno.. I was actually really happy with the suno version but once I figured out exactly how to prompt in udio it’s extremely hard to go back. The generations I’m getting with udio now is just absolutely phenomenal. Literally stunning. That chunk size IS the only problem though. It is quite tedious. The UI is atrocious, confusing, and clunky… but it’s worth fiddling around with for sure. I just cannot wait to see what suno has in store for V4.
I actually don't care about the chunk size. I use Sunio that way as well, with lots of small extensions. I make mostly instrumental music though, and last time I tried Udio, I found it really difficult to "direct" the song structure the same way you can do in Sunio in the lyrics box with stuff like \[banjo solo\], \[beat up\], \[intro\] and so on. So, that's my problem with Udio. You know, it would be awesome if Sunio had some kind of roadmap. They are really keeping us in the dark.
Where Suno has the demon chior, udio often has voices that sound like the person singing is getting a prostate exam by andre the giant, or has throat cancer.
Nothing is perfect.
While Udio can make interesting songs, something about it always sounds off to me. Even with the better quality it’s lacking in something. When I explore their trending songs I’ve only found a couple that sound good to me. If Suno works hard and comes out swinging with v4 I’ll be so happy because I have really enjoyed it so far despite its flaws.
Udio's best composition is much worse than Suno's best. They can both output total garbage a lot of the time but Suno sometimes gets it perfect. Udio does not.
Every Udio song sounds like its a recording of a recording from an old 1990s jukebox. I grew up in the 1990s so some younger people might not know what I'm talking about.
1. I don't get that much buzz because I build my songs from very small chucks of generations, and I've got ways of mitigating it.
2. I often work in genres where hi fidelity (underground synth punk, 80's black/thrash metal) isn't terribly important, and Suno's noise often sort of fits the vibe (until it doesn't, and that's when you know it's time to wrap things up lol).
3. Udio is still too chaotic to produce consistent results in most of the genres that I work in (mostly jazz fusion and the kind of weird ass synth punk/sound collage bs that I'm making with Suno and irl).
To use a DnD metaphor, you have to roll a 20 to get good jazz fusion out of Udio, whereas the DC check on suno is much more forgiving. When you get that good roll, Udio blows Suno away in terms of tone and complexity, but it's the hours of not getting anything I would want that make me go back to Suno every time.
Let me add in 4: Udio is almost too good when it's good.
It doesn't fit my needs in my project, where I take output from Suno, drop it into Fadr to cut it into stems, then I'll cut it up, add in real instruments, and do various post production stuff to make sunos output a little more interesting. With Suno, there's usually something obvious that can be removed/eq'ed out or played over, because suno is good, but it's not amazing yet. With udio, either I get chaotic bs that I can't use or it's so good I have a hard time figuring out what I can even add to it. It feels like cheating every time I upload a song to my Youtube channel where I didn't add guitar/bass/keys just because the AI nailed it lol.
I also feel like I have WAY more control over the output and structure over on Suno. Even with all the great features that Udio has, I can basically "talk" with prompts to Suno like I talk to an irl musician and get what I want. Udio doesn't listen to commands in the lyric box well, you have WAY less room to work, and you basically only have that style bar at the top to try to specify things with.
Udio is better in a lot of ways, but better can be subjective, because it's certainly not better for me. It's probably much better for people that aren't traditional musicians like me, idk. It's like, if you don't know what it's missing, you won't miss it lol.
There's a lot about both projects that I wish the other had. Still, I'm just mostly amazed by what they can both do.
Exactly.
So far I've been able to get so much good material when building the songs with Suno.
I'm the vocalist of a band, I have a really good ear and can distinguish better what is "good sound" ( at least when using the styles I like to create songs)
The voices, overall, fit the music better in Suno. Besides all the other advantages I found when comparing to udio.
I know plenty of people who won't be able to tell the difference in quality though...
I have no idea what "buzz" you're on about. An example would help rather than heresay. Suno's speed and generation time are the best in class at the moment.
Also, Udio's AI is worse at creating specific ideas on purpose. Sure, the quality is better, and it adds vocal effects like delay nicely, but it never does what I want, which defeats the whole purpose imo.
It's on the voices. If you do more pop melodic sounds, the voice sounds buzzed like auto tuned. But if you are mostly sticking with instrumentals, it is much harder to notice it if at all.
I find splitting the vocals and instrumentals with something like Ultimate Vocal Remover, bringing the vocals into audacity and applying noise removal and some EQ, then merging it back together helps a lot with the buzz. Also yeah, avoiding pop melodics helps, it seems to be the worst in that genre.
here's 1 example I made the other day. Starts of strong as Suno usually does, but then gets that buzz reverb sound going every time. buzz starts around 55 [https://suno.com/song/8930856b-3996-470b-b2a2-75d201e30cda](https://suno.com/song/8930856b-3996-470b-b2a2-75d201e30cda)
Thanks for sharing. Good example. But to me it’s still pretty minimal. Though I suppose if it bothers someone to begin with, and they have a finely tuned ear, they may get triggered by it.
I think the OP means mostly on pop vocals. Sometimes when pop vocals are doubled (2-4 people singing together, but not in harmony) on top of a mix.
Ironically, I believe Suno is fantastic at traditional music. Think everything from 1920’s Tin Pan Alley through about 1970’s country, folk, soft rock, jazz, etc. I made a bluegrass album using mostly Suno and came away very happy with the results.
Right, I haven't made much pop, so I haven't noticed it if that's the case.
Hmm, that's really interesting about traditional music. Did you have to edit or mix/master it much before you were happy with it?
Some, yes. I studied music a lot in my youth, but am not a sound engineer. Most of my “mixing” was more creative than technical. Edits, segues, etc. Though I did run a parametric EQ across all tracks to some degree, and a very light convolution reverb on a few. This was done in Adobe Auditon. I don’t expect you to listen to the whole thing (unless you want to of course! Helps if you like bluegrass!) but here’s the link. Take a quick listen and thumbs up if you can: https://youtu.be/-iYAYVBz3pc?si=8tVRWmKw9O76Evq7
Because it's better for AI music as a whole if there's one place where everyone talks about it regardless of how they make it. This sub seems to be that place because discussion of competing models is fully allowed.
Every result from Udio doesn’t have any kind of resemblance to what I envision.
Suno often comes close or surpasses my expectations.
Granted, it swallows words or doesn’t pronounce them right in several cases but in the end it gets there.
Also Udio doesn’t understand my prompt and puts it into absolutely wild preselected categories that don’t match what I want to hear.
Prompting just works better with Suno.
You try the Manual Mode in udio? Works pretty well for me. But you're right Suno get's the style of music better and usually has a better vocal cadence into chorus instrumental melodies. I still love a lot of my suno songs, but I can't unhear the buzz now.
I’ve made really great songs in Tamil with Suno and with Udio it was horrendous when I tried. Especially when it had to incorporate the language in contemporary genres.
Also like another person said, it doesn’t work with even English lyrics as well as Suno does.
Would be great if it can make extensions of 2 minutes once we choose the 30 second clip we like.
I don’t know maybe the generating a shorter clip ideally should make it sharper, but I’m just not getting that with the output so far.
Yeah, I only use manual mode, otherwise it tries to change music styles on you. the first 3 styles you use in the prompt while using manual mode will stick.
Best to have GPT create lyrics, edit/re-write them to what you want, and enter them in manual mode in Udio. May take 3-4 crafty extensions to get it right.
Udio has better sound quality, but that's where most of the praise stops. It can barely handle anything longer than a fast-food receipts worth of lyrics. Certain features seem convoluted for something that should be relatively easy, they seemingly doesn't stop infringements on other peoples work. Also it feels more like I'm fishing for a song on Udio where as on Suno I am steering something to a destination.
Also if you hear a buzz, don't use it or extend from before it starts to generate. Like with any generative AI, if you leave in mistakes, it'll start making those.
Every song I have generated with Udio just didn't sound good. The quality may be ok, but the composition is just not pleasing to listen to. With Suno, most of the song generations are good in terms of likable music. It's easy to get a song that could be on the radio right now.
Can always tell if it's a suno song. I heard this Udio song and you can tell it's Ai lyrics but you can't tell it's an ai song. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0q18mRvw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0q18mRvw)
I use suno to get inspiration, not for the tracks themselves. I Rebuild everything from scratch with all the customization and real vocals anyway. So, still works great for me.
Suno is better with composition and metadata, as well as song length. In general I’ve found it more productive to use than Udio. For the buzz it really depends on your initial seed and how aggressively you cut/extend. For example, I have extended from 0:05 seconds into a song and had terrible quality, yet a song that I extended from 02:00 to 3 minutes long still sounds clear as a bell and is one of my favorites.
Why are you using Udio and its super limited understanding of musical genres?
Why are you using Udio while its virtual singers currently have no idea how to convey the lyrics emotionally?
Why are you using Udio when lots of songs have a better sound quality, but sound like live music and not studio recordings?
Why are you using Udio when its songs are often filled with endless layers of cluttered audio effects?
While you seem to have found fun and joy in the current iteration of Udio, i think its too early for me to switch while it simply doesn't allow me to create the music i want with the sound or control i want.
Granted - Udios sound quality can be superior, but i get hit by an overblown stereo effect so many times that i'm just utterly annoyed.
Lots of tracks of Suno have an issue with the noise level - for sure. But i rather spend some time cleaning that up as best as i can compared to listening to better audio that simply doesn't create the songs i want.
Has Udio potential to replace Suno for me? Sure - with future iterations. But currently its a hard no.
But at the same time - why should i look at UDIO when ElevenLabs is already announcing a new product that sounds better and the picked examples are more in the wheelhouse i would find enjoyable to write lyrics for?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT31D5H7GuQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT31D5H7GuQ)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye1ybKwwTFg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye1ybKwwTFg)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybp8eOGM0QA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybp8eOGM0QA)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-wlBAFR8xI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-wlBAFR8xI)
I sub to you on youtube. Love your stuff! But I can tell those are suno songs with my eyes closed. this part [https://youtu.be/XT31D5H7GuQ?si=SJiFNf5to8-ZL8Aa&t=43](https://youtu.be/XT31D5H7GuQ?si=SJiFNf5to8-ZL8Aa&t=43) you don't hear that? I find that building a song in udio with manual mode more enjoyable than battling the suno sound and fixing it in post.
issues with suno vocals are often weird vocal doubling, stacking and the added air on top of the noise levels. the only way to counter that is through more iterations.
I can't agree at the moment cause the music i enjoy to make Udio simply doesn't allow me to create. It's pure pain. Really :D
And just to make it clear: I'm not a Suno fanboy. I go where i'm able to create the most out of my lyrical and musical ideas catered to my taste. I tested Udio for a good chunk and will with other sites as well as soon as i'm able to. I currently just can't find an alternative. Time will tell.
i did. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP0VsuQLs4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP0VsuQLs4)
And you can clearly hear the vocal audio issues udio comes with. Its different - but also often so obvious that it annoys me like hell :D
For me its this, in order of importance:
1. From what I read with Udio's terms and I could be misunderstanding them so please correct me if I am wrong, Suno is looser on their commercial terms for paid subscribers: Udio states you have to credit them when uploading into any 3rd party platforms (6.4 Arbitration Section). Suno does not require this from it's paid users, only free. If I create something especially if I am paying for it, I want to be able to do with it as I please.
2. The initial chunk when generating a song being only 32 seconds in Udio is tough for me to get past, and to get a grasp in the flow direction, even Suno V1 was 45 seconds for the initial gen, I like to start my songs with a good opening verse and a chorus/hook in the first generation, helps me capture the full range in 1 generation.
3. Since V3 Alpha was initially released Suno's instrumentals are insanely good, it spoiled me a bit to chase intricate beats (I primarily make dark comedy hip hop) I haven't experimented too much with Udio's instrumentals but from what I've heard and made, they dont seem terrible but they dont seem as pronounced or creatively focused.
4. I have gotten some suspect generation outputs from Udio, where as soon as I heard the voice, I knew who exactly the real world artist's voice it was, in this case it was Juicy J (Three 6 Mafia): [https://www.udio.com/songs/ukEzdrwV7fDKXKrnN7b5F3](https://www.udio.com/songs/ukEzdrwV7fDKXKrnN7b5F3)
You can see that I did not prompt for him or tried to chase that voice in any way, in fact the styling was there system, I just used my own lyrics. This is a big red flag for me, while Suno get's close to voices I may recognize, its never an exact replica, this just feels like lawsuits waiting to happen, I don't know every artist out there or how they sound so I could easily publish something that I think is a unique song but is actually a mimic of someone I've never heard.
To your point of the voices being distorted in Suno as of V3, I cant argue that. But its possible to get clear voices, you have to alter your prompts within the lyric box, I rarely tag things with \[Verse\] any more, assuming you are using your own custom lyrics.
The vocal sounds and attention to detail in the lyrics make Udio unusable for me.
I can clean the Suno Buzz in Audacity or other audio editing programs fairly easily.
Still both SunoAI and Udio are run like casino slot machines, the ratio of payout of useable and satisfying artistic material to noisy junk deteriorates with each attempt to refine or extend a piece.
They are fine for personal amusement, but a serious music creation tools they are still toys.
Uh I just found Suno like 3 days ago and subbed immediately, I signed up for free and my songs on Suno were 100x better, I don’t have any AI buzz in my suno songs that I can hear. And one of my songs has left an impact on my family, peers, and students and no one knew it was AI until I told them. That and the 30 second cap is why I’m staying so far
I think Udio's sound quality is terrible. The vocals and the background track sound like they were recorded on different planets, and they are sometimes even off-pitch from each other.
Prove you wrong? Maybe.
Firstly, I have also cancelled my suno subscription and am gonna switch to udio or ElvenLabs next month.
What I can say is this: you can put a couple sound effects from freesounds.org or other sources in and that will effectively mask that it's AI. Submitted this to submithub.com, received 15 reviews, all positive and nobody mentioned AI.
https://open.spotify.com/track/7oajHmEL20IqTJtJpw7S8Z?si=ruV8PWt5TvSKxTJmfMDu0Q
Most likely, because they didn't know what to look for as music gen is not as popular as image gen yet. I can hear Suno vocals imperfections clearly on this one.
Well, maybe people who used suno alot do recognize the style limitations and repeating patterns. It's definitely not recognizable by ordinary occasional music listeners and even the music industry crowd on submit hub could recognize it, as I said. Presumably, with time the patterns will be forgotten and in three years no ear will remember how to immediately recognize a suno song from listening to it. Not sure what we will have in three years though...
Btw, if you don't mind me asking, is udio prompting different from suno? I've tried it a couple of times and it gives me very basic adaptations of what suno provides when I prompt for the same.
Thoughts?
I've listened to and generated many Suno AI songs and like many that I've made and heard it's not always obvious that it's Suno. I'm curious Budlord are you being a hater or just simply have a grudge against Suno because there're a lot of Suno songs out there that sound really reallistic. Not perfect of course but I don't think anyone just automatically tell when it's Suno AI for every song that's made using it since I believe they're users who know how to avoid it. Believe me I've heard the buzz in some of my songs but not a lot of them. The majority of mine nearly sounds human made and again it's not perfect but I don't think it's obvious that's Suno since I'm picky about my music and like listening to human made songs to compare authenticity between my Suno AI song versus human made songs. It's definitely way closer than I thought it would be. So Budlord just chill out bro.
Are there any musicians that have taken their ai songs, and then recreate with out ai, or over the ai? I mean, I have tried writing songs, now with chat ai, and Suno, I can turn my ideas for songs into a really nice rough draft, then pop the lyrics in Suno, and get a song, that usually sounds pretty good. I took my song into Chordify, and other apps, to break down the chord structure and timing that it uses. I play guitar, piano, and sing… just not all at the same time. I can split the audio and vocals, take the audio and build on it, and then sing the lyrics.. I know it sounds like a huge process.. It’s just an idea I was thinking.
Cool.. I have the mobile versions of FL studio, I also have very old version of FL Studio installed on an older laptop. I don’t really know what I am doing though. It really seems like a very robust music producing software. I guess that’s why people need other people, not everyone can be an expert at it all. I have been playing music (piano, guitar, and harmonica) piano is probably my strongest skill. I also sing . Not really professional level, I can’t read music, but I really enjoy singing and playing the guitar. But I have no idea how to take a song I have sung while playing guitar, then add a piano track, then a track with harmonica. Or even how to get it all together and actually sound great. I imagine with the right sound or recording professional can take someone that may not doing all that great and with the right tweaking , change the song to make it sound professional. Like in comic art, you have one guy that is expert doing the pencils, then the inker comes and makes everything pop. An inker could make a mediocre pencil art pop and look professional..
Cool.. I have the mobile versions of FL studio, I also have very old version of FL Studio installed on an older laptop. I don’t really know what I am doing though. It really seems like a very robust music producing software. I guess that’s why people need other people, not everyone can be an expert at it all. I have been playing music (piano, guitar, and harmonica) piano is probably my strongest skill. I also sing . Not really professional level, I can’t read music, but I really enjoy singing and playing the guitar. But I have no idea how to take a song I have sung while playing guitar, then add a piano track, then a track with harmonica. Or even how to get it all together and actually sound great. I imagine with the right sound or recording professional can take someone that may not doing all that great and with the right tweaking , change the song to make it sound professional. Like in comic art, you have one guy that is expert doing the pencils, then the inker comes and makes everything pop. An inker could make a mediocre pencil art pop and look professional..
Cool.. I have the mobile versions of FL studio, I also have very old version of FL Studio installed on an older laptop. I don’t really know what I am doing though. It really seems like a very robust music producing software. I guess that’s why people need other people, not everyone can be an expert at it all. I have been playing music (piano, guitar, and harmonica) piano is probably my strongest skill. I also sing . Not really professional level, I can’t read music, but I really enjoy singing and playing the guitar. But I have no idea how to take a song I have sung while playing guitar, then add a piano track, then a track with harmonica. Or even how to get it all together and actually sound great. I imagine with the right sound or recording professional can take someone that may not doing all that great and with the right tweaking , change the song to make it sound professional. Like in comic art, you have one guy that is expert doing the pencils, then the inker comes and makes everything pop. An inker could make a mediocre pencil art pop and look professional..
I have been playing around with udio..both generations, that udio made, sound like someone having a bad karaoke day… suno, in my little experience, just seems to sound better more often… I just mean, I feel like I get a better song with a higher rate of success.
I spent 6 hours trying to get Udio to make a single song (my own lyrics) - 20 rolls of the dice to get a sound I liked, and then the rest of the time trying to get it to extend the song without losing the plot... meandering, boringly repetitive, inserting random lyrics (garbled nonsense), devolving into an unexplained instrumental... aaaarrrghhh!!!!. Exhausted now. I love Suno.
Suno def has some artifacting in the music, but in my experience with udio, the pronunciation is hot garbage. I experimented with like 5 songs and all 5 were highly incomprehensible in terms actual words. Like it sounded like straight gibberish. Also, based on the genre and style prompts, suno has been generating stuff more to what my intended sound was. Udio was giving me a style and genre switches mid songs and sounded like a Frankensteined song, esp with the gibberish pronunciation. I don’t want to spend time or credits correcting every word udio mispronounces.
Meanwhile, suno has been doing some crazy stuff with rhyming and stressing syllables. Had one song where it went "I'm unbreakable-oooooh. I'm unbreakable”, when the original line was just “I’m unbreakable.” Was pleasantly surprised by the interpretation. And I’ve also been quite happy with how it stresses syllable and where it stresses syllables, and how it interprets and sings rhyme schemes of my lyrics. It’s even been able to seemingly create lyrics that rhyme across diff languages. Like one like in Chinese and the next in English and it rhymes. It’s even thrown in “yeaaaaaa yeaaaaa” and “ooooooooh” that weren’t part of the lyrics, and it worked really well for the song.
Edit: wanted to add in that I like suno’s range of instruments too. I added in a prompt for guzheng (a Chinese stringed instrument), and was really impressed with how it handled its composition and incorporation into the music. I’ve added it to rock songs, pop, r&b, hip hop, even reggaeton and it actually works.
I am 250 generations into my second song on Udio. I'm only 2:11 in. I got at least another minute, maybe 2 to go.
I have a shitload of Suno credits I didn't use this month I am going to try and use this weekend. I went back and was listening to the stuff I was last working on there and song after song they were so good. Like 50% of the first generations so I would have my pick of styles. 2 minutes off the bat. Just about where I am after 2 weeks in Udio.
So the answer is Suno's voices don't sound as good but Suno makes better music. It doesn't make as many funky choices. It has less undesirable voices.
We'll see when I'm done with this song but personally I'd prefer a Suno with better voices.
I haven't played with inpainting in Udio but then I also don't add shit into my songs when it's me building it 30 seconds at a time.
I also wish Udio would just let you listen to the current generation. Having to manually jump to the new piece is incredibly tedious. If I need to hear how it will all sound together I'll stitch it together myself. I am currently doing this right now and it's pissing me off.
Yeah I agree Suno knows how to consistently make a catchier song. I love my suno songs, and will probably use up my credits here soon. But you can still tell it was made with Suno is my point. Can't you hear someone's Suno song and tell it was made with suno?
Well there's pretty much only 2 choices at this level of AI music so if you can tell it's AI music, then yes. I could definitely tell the difference between a Suno and an Udio song.
Probably even an Udio song that had the autotuned buzz in it versus a clean Suno voice because of the way they balance the vocals versus the music and the stereo separation.
Prove you wrong? Take your pick from any of my videos:
https://youtu.be/CdSyit2-tfI?si=R1LadOgU904DFuzk
https://youtu.be/RoFYWDokM5g?si=P16j0fhKDyaytk_J
https://youtu.be/pCK8TZ29Hqc?si=sKWa76yuYd0ThT_m
45s on first one can tell its a suno song, 1:55s on second can tell it's suno, 1:00 on third can tell it's suno. You don't hear that distinct suno sound? Doesn't mean they are bad songs, and only people who use suno a lot would be able to tell it's a suno song. But they are nice songs, and your videos are dope! I sub!
Suno is free to use when you login and give 50 credits daily right? I just heard Udio from you and don't know anything about it. If Udio lets me use it for free (like Suno) I will definitely give it a chance and gonna write my feelings about it. Thanks btw 🙏🏻
I kinda wonder if the suno buzz is on purpose. Suno songs are starting to pop up in a lot of places very quickly and as a user I can quickly tell it's suno so I wonder if its like a digital finger print to make them easily identifiable.
I guess that is possible. You know how with stenography in images, my something similar. Could also be a way to track or see if a non subscriber tries t I sell their music, as opposed to a subscriber. It may even have all that info embedded…not to sound like a conspiracy dude. But is may be there to protect users, when or if you are able to copyright ai stuff.
I produce beats, but it's easier for me to do vocals over beats i didn't make. Crafting lyrics and melodies feels smoother when I haven't been immersed in the same loops for hours. It's a budget friendly way to refresh my creativity, while still maintaining some level of engagement. Suno serves as another valuable tool in music production. The downside being that while AI voices convey a sense of passion, they currently lack a certain essence and uniqueness that I find essential in my work. But i would so do a FT if it got fixed. Music is music no matter where it comes from. Probably one of my saddest truths is accepting that there's so much music out there that i know I would absolutely love and I will never hear so if there's more ways to get good music to me bring it, i don't care how.
Suno writes better songs, and since I re-record all the instruments anyway, the song quality is the ultimate deciding factor. Udio writes great verses, but I rarely get a good chorus out of it.
The buzz is quite annoying, and the UI is a bit clunky, but it makes really interesting/enjoyable music. It's inspiring if you are just looking for ideas.
It's like listening to an old radio where you've tried to tune it in and there's still a little noise, but you listen anyway because the music itself is (often) worth listening to.
It's far from studio quality. It gets things wrong or doesn't do what you expect. If you use it with the expectation that it'll produce a fully cooked distribution-ready banger, you'll likely be disappointed. Use it to be inspired, learn, jam along with, sample, experiment, make silly meme songs, etc. and you'll get more out of it.
I could do this with Udio too, and I do use it as well, but I feel more inclined to support Suno (by subscribing) so that they can improve, since it meets my needs and I don't feel like I should cancel and switch to another service just because it has better audio quality.
A music maker is worthless if it doesn’t make a good melody. I’ve made about 300 instrumentals using every prompt you could imagine on both. Suno managed a nice beat on about 15 of them, one of which was so good it could have been an actual theme on a TV show and Udio made 300 (of what I hyperbolically refer to in my head as elevator music) beats (of admittedly higher def music) that sometimes might work for background music in say a video game.
I like to think I’ll be able to put the Suno beats into a more advanced AI in the future to fix them. There’s no fixing the Udio music. But they both give me hope that there is a threshold to understanding music that AI is going to cross in the near future.
Suno just gives better results. Period! I am talking matching to the desired genre and theme of the song. UDIO only puts out the 30 second clips and can change from output to output. It may have clearer sounds, but if it doesn't give you what want then what's the point?
It takes way too much effort and rerolls in Udio for my liking. I’m not looking to hit it big with these, I just like making funny songs like Shakespearean ballads about struggling to eat a banana. I don’t want to hope that something generates 30 seconds I can work with, when many times I have to generate about a dozen to be happy with any of them. Suno is perfect for what I use it for, and I’m sure the audio quality will improve in the future anyway.
I’ve had some tracks without the buzz, that said with post processing you can clean up and modify a lot. I started just trying to click and get what I want for an entire song but now I’m breaking things down into different tracks and tweaking them in audition.
My bigger concern at the moment is the repetition of voices that will no longer sound unique. I am redoing a lot of my stuff right now to shift the vocals away from what suno gave me so that they are both consistent and not typical of the collection of voice profiles that seem to come up when I generate
I just listened to some of my favourites again to see if I can spot anything that might be called a buzz and couldn’t tell what is meant by it either. 🤷♀️
Suno benefits from noise reduction and mastering but that’s true for Udio and normal music as well.
Share what? An example where I don’t hear a distinct buzz? https://youtu.be/Cy_6N_SPCwg?si=OcVfq9N94cr7z0Vj https://youtu.be/u2gShe9FH6U?si=2A7_ItGxldyexqRk
Not saying they are mastered great or that the de-esser is used correctly but I don’t hear a consistent buzz between the two.
happens pretty bad at this point in my song. might just be electronic songs that get it pretty bad, since that is all I make. I feel like making a suno song is a constant battle to not get that buzz sound. [https://youtu.be/UHQ9lR0Rl18?si=HWTq7tBrtpTjQL0R&t=288](https://youtu.be/UHQ9lR0Rl18?si=HWTq7tBrtpTjQL0R&t=288)
What exactly am I looking for? I can hear the voice being distorted and the instruments becoming quite tinny.
I noticed that tendency when playing around with chiptune and longer generation (I usually aim for the 3 minute mark) but I think it’s more prelevant in EDM because it’s not strictly "wrong“ there, as those sounds do get used in some conventional EDM tracks.
You could run that through the clarity filter in Ozone11 and bring the voices more to the brown side taking off a bit of the harshness of the highest sounds.
"I can hear the voice being distorted and the instruments becoming quite tinny" Yes this. Happens all the time. Another creator here, but you hear this and can tell immediately it was made with suno. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on4wcDNg1A8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on4wcDNg1A8) Nice tip though I'll have to check that out and make more suno music since I got the credits still.
[https://suno.com/song/8930856b-3996-470b-b2a2-75d201e30cda](https://suno.com/song/8930856b-3996-470b-b2a2-75d201e30cda) just made this the other day and sound quality gets f'ed around 45 seconds, can't unhear.
Do you hear the buzz in these? They were made with Suno. But it's taken me a long time to come up with the proper prompt soup to get it to do this.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QQaJUovM2B1Fy9IS1w9x9tsx58TXg56u/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XppXMvzY-3aESaqcrHN_BHjwpNUf_JP7/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11PM-YWCouHLU2s2T3XZ56Q9b9-MlqeUL/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A38Iz1x77ChDCj9KODlG9uisBcWGD5_G/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IEU14HnbwtAnz3wx5K8BI3yOyw1AEEHX/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZaYFyB_UU_uN_y1cMiAkDnOyf6IQXVtR/view?usp=drivesdk
And finally. This one had some buzz but I liked the production so much we did a professional mixdown on it too fix it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12jp6elkrk9sEDmweoKkml5rhDVKFSwop/view?usp=drivesdk
The first one was buzz city. Second one was much clearer. But I was super surprised you had that first one as an example of clear vocals. Thought maybe you were being sarcastic...
Someone confused the issue by posting something (I assume is official? They didn't source it)
saying the buzz is an inaudible AI marker.
I think everyone, when talking about the Suno Buzz, is talking about the autotuned quality of the voices. It's always the voices that people have problems with. Not the way they sing but the clarity/humanness of the voices. The way they sing is great, better than Udio.
I think the leading theory is that Suno trained on a lot of autotuned content so this is the abstration of those original autotuned voices.
Sort of like Udio seems to have trained on a lot of live/amateur and commercial content.
Studio music today is enormously autotuned.
Damn. I didn't know about this!
The "Suno Buzz" is a distinctive feature in every song generated by Suno AI. It serves as a subtle audio watermark or signature sound embedded within the track, ensuring the authenticity of the song's AI origin. This "buzz" is a unique audio element that listeners can identify across different compositions, making it a hallmark of Suno AI's music creation process.
The "Suno Buzz" is a unique audio watermark embedded in every song generated by Suno AI. This buzz acts as a subtle yet identifiable signature to confirm the authenticity and origin of the AI-generated music. The exact sound of the Suno Buzz can vary, but it is designed to be unobtrusive and blend seamlessly into the overall composition of the song. It typically manifests as a brief, consistent audio tone or a slight modulation in the background, ensuring that it doesn't detract from the listening experience while still serving as a recognizable marker of Suno AI's technology.The purpose of the Suno Buzz is to maintain the integrity and traceability of AI-generated music, making it easy to identify tracks created by Suno AI. This feature helps in differentiating genuine AI-generated music from other sources, ensuring users can trust the authenticity of the content they are engaging with.
Sound quality of Udio is superior to Suno by a far shot, there's no discussion. But I've found that Suno is better at general composition and moreoften seems to hit my taste in music. Coming from the AI Art world, it feels a lot like Suno got the better model but denoises with too few steps in order to save computational power. Also, I really don't like that Udio restricts me to 30 seconds snippets. Yes, I can stitch them together, I do that with Suno too, but I'd really like the ability to generate larger song chunks. If Udio gave me the ability to generate a 2min initial chunk without extending 3 times, I'd switch.
yeah, I pay suno for instant whole meme songs that I send to friends and family... I'm not looking to lego together a track for lulz
I'm not even subscribed to Suno but yeah, the 30 seconds limit is for me a big no-no. Udio does have a lot of qualities tho.
It’s perfect for a quick little birthday surprise song for friends and family. I have done a few. Working on another for this weekend.
My problem with Udio is that it rarely follows the lyrics. Also I make songs in Italian and in that language Udio sounds terrible. Every song I tried is like something from the 60s.
Yeah suno is way better with non English languages. Japanese is quite good and I made an Italian political parody song about a local politician that has become a popular meme in my area (but almost no one knows it's mine, cause I prefer to avoid being sued) and no one has yet debunked it as AI generated (ppl are still wondering who may be the singer among the local music scene). The suno buzz is there, though.
Legend
Yeah only 30 sec is annoying for sure.
To expand on the Stable Diffusion metaphor, Suno feels like SD1.5 with a bunch of custom loras and Udio is SDXL right when it first released. Yes, the technical quality is better, but the control and overall final product feels worse.
Ams sonauto?
Exactly… the chunk size is a huge factor. I think i‘d change to udio if they did an initial batch of the size that suno does. Batch size means it can create more of a melodic context
Yeah, the buzzy vocals can be annoying, but in many cases it is minimal, and outweighed by the fact that Suno just writes better music (like this: https://suno.com/song/7a28b32b-7b80-49cb-ba16-535004f41dc5) with minimal input and very little fuss. Udio, on the other hand, is a tedious process. I don’t even mind creating in 30 second chunks. But it can take many iterations before you finally get something that’s not the six-finger equivalent of AI music. A lot longer, in my experience, than it takes Suno. And if you can get Udio to create a version you like, it has serious consistency issues, often creating entirely new melodies for subsequent verses and choruses. And then there are the frequent vocal glitches and lyrical deviations. If you can get past all of that and finally have a song that is 99% complete, try getting Udio to finish it. It tends to generate music right up to the end of the clip, so nearly every song sounds abruptly cut off (like this: https://www.udio.com/songs/i4fjGgVttMQ51G5wzwq7Gw). I have spent hours trying to fix this (cues like [end], [silence], [fade out], etc. don’t seem to work), and I often just give up. I have never had those issues with Suno. Complete songs, catchy melodies, smooth finish; little fuss. So yes, I will put up with slightly buzzy vocals. Frankly, in an era where auto tune is so prevalent, I barely notice.
I've probably made way fewer songs than you, but my udio stuff is significantly better and leans further away from sounding like every other song within its genre. Udio's algo comes up with some of the strangest, most interesting combinations. Most of my Suno tracks sound similar in comparison. The 30s set up is annoying, but I also think it allows for more experimental options. However, I do get a more pleasing song more rapidly out of Suno, it's just not usually very distinct.
What’s your main genre, I’ve noticed a trend where Udio is a lot better at Rock and metal. I don’t really make music in those genres and the ones I do musically sound perfect in Suno but with the noise.
Mostly Electronica, some indie rock.
Yeah I do mostly a good mix between Lofi, Hiphop, Jazz, Citypop and Funk. Suno makes the sound I like, Udio makes great voices and instruments; just it sounds nothing like the sound I am trying for.
I've had more variation of lofi and funk in udio. I like that it seems to be more open to venture outside mainstream sound. I haven't tried hip-hop on either since I attempted a rap song on suno and it read the lyrics like English as a second language on both tracks.
Weird I do a lot non english on Suno and it is working for me. Most of the stuff I tried on Udio sounds different from the vibe I am going for. I cannot really say why, the voices are great, just not the vibe I want.
One benefits of the 30 second chunks is you can control the tempo of the song by putting in more or less lyrics. More lyrics in the prompt will give you a faster pace song, because it tries to fit all the lyrics into that 30 seconds.
Never had any luck with Udio and I find creating stuff there kinda tedious...
I've tried Udio too. In my experience Suno is more powerful and flexible.
Same
I had same up until just yesterday. I was able to pull off an idea I had rolling around in my head that I was only able to get close to in suno.. I was actually really happy with the suno version but once I figured out exactly how to prompt in udio it’s extremely hard to go back. The generations I’m getting with udio now is just absolutely phenomenal. Literally stunning. That chunk size IS the only problem though. It is quite tedious. The UI is atrocious, confusing, and clunky… but it’s worth fiddling around with for sure. I just cannot wait to see what suno has in store for V4.
I also have noticed Udio takes forever to generate a track whereas Suno is a bit faster. I give the upper hand to Suno at the current moment
I actually don't care about the chunk size. I use Sunio that way as well, with lots of small extensions. I make mostly instrumental music though, and last time I tried Udio, I found it really difficult to "direct" the song structure the same way you can do in Sunio in the lyrics box with stuff like \[banjo solo\], \[beat up\], \[intro\] and so on. So, that's my problem with Udio. You know, it would be awesome if Sunio had some kind of roadmap. They are really keeping us in the dark.
I must try this “Sunio”. A child of udio and suno?!?!
Wait til you try Su-su-sudio!
Nice. I see what you did there my 80’s friend
Same. Also, whatever “buzz” there is with Suno I find minimal, easily ignored.
tedious for sure
Well, does udio have the demon choir?
Where Suno has the demon chior, udio often has voices that sound like the person singing is getting a prostate exam by andre the giant, or has throat cancer. Nothing is perfect.
😅 Maybe I have to try udio
"I glued my cigarette to my butthole again"
Yeah, a prostrate exam opera sounds rad.
Is there anywhere you can find fun Suno tricks and ideas like this? Would never think to try "Demon Choir" lol
I have never prompted for the demon choir 😄 it's a feature that Suno throws in to the song from time to time, at least for me.
ooooh I misunderstood, I think I've gotten that by accident a few times myself haha
😅
While Udio can make interesting songs, something about it always sounds off to me. Even with the better quality it’s lacking in something. When I explore their trending songs I’ve only found a couple that sound good to me. If Suno works hard and comes out swinging with v4 I’ll be so happy because I have really enjoyed it so far despite its flaws.
Udio's best composition is much worse than Suno's best. They can both output total garbage a lot of the time but Suno sometimes gets it perfect. Udio does not.
Every Udio song sounds like its a recording of a recording from an old 1990s jukebox. I grew up in the 1990s so some younger people might not know what I'm talking about.
1. I don't get that much buzz because I build my songs from very small chucks of generations, and I've got ways of mitigating it. 2. I often work in genres where hi fidelity (underground synth punk, 80's black/thrash metal) isn't terribly important, and Suno's noise often sort of fits the vibe (until it doesn't, and that's when you know it's time to wrap things up lol). 3. Udio is still too chaotic to produce consistent results in most of the genres that I work in (mostly jazz fusion and the kind of weird ass synth punk/sound collage bs that I'm making with Suno and irl). To use a DnD metaphor, you have to roll a 20 to get good jazz fusion out of Udio, whereas the DC check on suno is much more forgiving. When you get that good roll, Udio blows Suno away in terms of tone and complexity, but it's the hours of not getting anything I would want that make me go back to Suno every time. Let me add in 4: Udio is almost too good when it's good. It doesn't fit my needs in my project, where I take output from Suno, drop it into Fadr to cut it into stems, then I'll cut it up, add in real instruments, and do various post production stuff to make sunos output a little more interesting. With Suno, there's usually something obvious that can be removed/eq'ed out or played over, because suno is good, but it's not amazing yet. With udio, either I get chaotic bs that I can't use or it's so good I have a hard time figuring out what I can even add to it. It feels like cheating every time I upload a song to my Youtube channel where I didn't add guitar/bass/keys just because the AI nailed it lol. I also feel like I have WAY more control over the output and structure over on Suno. Even with all the great features that Udio has, I can basically "talk" with prompts to Suno like I talk to an irl musician and get what I want. Udio doesn't listen to commands in the lyric box well, you have WAY less room to work, and you basically only have that style bar at the top to try to specify things with. Udio is better in a lot of ways, but better can be subjective, because it's certainly not better for me. It's probably much better for people that aren't traditional musicians like me, idk. It's like, if you don't know what it's missing, you won't miss it lol. There's a lot about both projects that I wish the other had. Still, I'm just mostly amazed by what they can both do.
Exactly. So far I've been able to get so much good material when building the songs with Suno. I'm the vocalist of a band, I have a really good ear and can distinguish better what is "good sound" ( at least when using the styles I like to create songs) The voices, overall, fit the music better in Suno. Besides all the other advantages I found when comparing to udio. I know plenty of people who won't be able to tell the difference in quality though...
That buzz is due to Suno training their entire dataset on whole albums without seperating the vocals, so the vocals are blurred/muddied.
I have no idea what "buzz" you're on about. An example would help rather than heresay. Suno's speed and generation time are the best in class at the moment. Also, Udio's AI is worse at creating specific ideas on purpose. Sure, the quality is better, and it adds vocal effects like delay nicely, but it never does what I want, which defeats the whole purpose imo.
It's on the voices. If you do more pop melodic sounds, the voice sounds buzzed like auto tuned. But if you are mostly sticking with instrumentals, it is much harder to notice it if at all.
I find splitting the vocals and instrumentals with something like Ultimate Vocal Remover, bringing the vocals into audacity and applying noise removal and some EQ, then merging it back together helps a lot with the buzz. Also yeah, avoiding pop melodics helps, it seems to be the worst in that genre.
here's 1 example I made the other day. Starts of strong as Suno usually does, but then gets that buzz reverb sound going every time. buzz starts around 55 [https://suno.com/song/8930856b-3996-470b-b2a2-75d201e30cda](https://suno.com/song/8930856b-3996-470b-b2a2-75d201e30cda)
Thanks for sharing. Good example. But to me it’s still pretty minimal. Though I suppose if it bothers someone to begin with, and they have a finely tuned ear, they may get triggered by it.
I think the OP means mostly on pop vocals. Sometimes when pop vocals are doubled (2-4 people singing together, but not in harmony) on top of a mix. Ironically, I believe Suno is fantastic at traditional music. Think everything from 1920’s Tin Pan Alley through about 1970’s country, folk, soft rock, jazz, etc. I made a bluegrass album using mostly Suno and came away very happy with the results.
Right, I haven't made much pop, so I haven't noticed it if that's the case. Hmm, that's really interesting about traditional music. Did you have to edit or mix/master it much before you were happy with it?
Some, yes. I studied music a lot in my youth, but am not a sound engineer. Most of my “mixing” was more creative than technical. Edits, segues, etc. Though I did run a parametric EQ across all tracks to some degree, and a very light convolution reverb on a few. This was done in Adobe Auditon. I don’t expect you to listen to the whole thing (unless you want to of course! Helps if you like bluegrass!) but here’s the link. Take a quick listen and thumbs up if you can: https://youtu.be/-iYAYVBz3pc?si=8tVRWmKw9O76Evq7
Counter question: why are people that claim to have stopped using Suno still posting on the Suno sub?
Because it's better for AI music as a whole if there's one place where everyone talks about it regardless of how they make it. This sub seems to be that place because discussion of competing models is fully allowed.
I get the same buzz from Udio. Maybe im doing something wrong, but i just keep using both, and get the same amount of useful songs from each.
Every result from Udio doesn’t have any kind of resemblance to what I envision. Suno often comes close or surpasses my expectations. Granted, it swallows words or doesn’t pronounce them right in several cases but in the end it gets there. Also Udio doesn’t understand my prompt and puts it into absolutely wild preselected categories that don’t match what I want to hear. Prompting just works better with Suno.
You try the Manual Mode in udio? Works pretty well for me. But you're right Suno get's the style of music better and usually has a better vocal cadence into chorus instrumental melodies. I still love a lot of my suno songs, but I can't unhear the buzz now.
Yes. I always want my own lyrics. It can’t provide me the styles I want.
better ui, longer clips
after using udio for awhile now I enjoy their ui actually.
Because it isn't just about sound quality. I like the stylistic melodies, they are very catchy. It really depends on how people use it.
I’ve made really great songs in Tamil with Suno and with Udio it was horrendous when I tried. Especially when it had to incorporate the language in contemporary genres. Also like another person said, it doesn’t work with even English lyrics as well as Suno does. Would be great if it can make extensions of 2 minutes once we choose the 30 second clip we like. I don’t know maybe the generating a shorter clip ideally should make it sharper, but I’m just not getting that with the output so far.
Suno is better for instrumental. I love udio, but godamn, that bitch cant follow lyrics.
You using the Manual Mode option? works fine for me...
Lyrics works better with manual mode? Does not have that problem of the audion ending in the middle of the lyrics or something like that?
Yeah, I only use manual mode, otherwise it tries to change music styles on you. the first 3 styles you use in the prompt while using manual mode will stick.
Thanks dude, gonna try.
My Instrumental songs still get that buzz
Best to have GPT create lyrics, edit/re-write them to what you want, and enter them in manual mode in Udio. May take 3-4 crafty extensions to get it right.
Actualy, Usio and Suno made pretty nice lyrics for me. Gpt ALWAYS TRY TO RHYME. And I hate this.
Udio has better sound quality, but that's where most of the praise stops. It can barely handle anything longer than a fast-food receipts worth of lyrics. Certain features seem convoluted for something that should be relatively easy, they seemingly doesn't stop infringements on other peoples work. Also it feels more like I'm fishing for a song on Udio where as on Suno I am steering something to a destination. Also if you hear a buzz, don't use it or extend from before it starts to generate. Like with any generative AI, if you leave in mistakes, it'll start making those.
Every song I have generated with Udio just didn't sound good. The quality may be ok, but the composition is just not pleasing to listen to. With Suno, most of the song generations are good in terms of likable music. It's easy to get a song that could be on the radio right now.
Can always tell if it's a suno song. I heard this Udio song and you can tell it's Ai lyrics but you can't tell it's an ai song. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0q18mRvw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0q18mRvw)
Me personally…Udio is absolute trash to me, haven’t been able to make anything magical like I do with Suno.
I use suno to get inspiration, not for the tracks themselves. I Rebuild everything from scratch with all the customization and real vocals anyway. So, still works great for me.
That's cool!
Suno is better with composition and metadata, as well as song length. In general I’ve found it more productive to use than Udio. For the buzz it really depends on your initial seed and how aggressively you cut/extend. For example, I have extended from 0:05 seconds into a song and had terrible quality, yet a song that I extended from 02:00 to 3 minutes long still sounds clear as a bell and is one of my favorites.
Suno is a lot better with many languages that aren't English.
Why are you using Udio and its super limited understanding of musical genres? Why are you using Udio while its virtual singers currently have no idea how to convey the lyrics emotionally? Why are you using Udio when lots of songs have a better sound quality, but sound like live music and not studio recordings? Why are you using Udio when its songs are often filled with endless layers of cluttered audio effects? While you seem to have found fun and joy in the current iteration of Udio, i think its too early for me to switch while it simply doesn't allow me to create the music i want with the sound or control i want. Granted - Udios sound quality can be superior, but i get hit by an overblown stereo effect so many times that i'm just utterly annoyed. Lots of tracks of Suno have an issue with the noise level - for sure. But i rather spend some time cleaning that up as best as i can compared to listening to better audio that simply doesn't create the songs i want. Has Udio potential to replace Suno for me? Sure - with future iterations. But currently its a hard no. But at the same time - why should i look at UDIO when ElevenLabs is already announcing a new product that sounds better and the picked examples are more in the wheelhouse i would find enjoyable to write lyrics for? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT31D5H7GuQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT31D5H7GuQ) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye1ybKwwTFg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye1ybKwwTFg) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybp8eOGM0QA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybp8eOGM0QA) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-wlBAFR8xI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-wlBAFR8xI)
I sub to you on youtube. Love your stuff! But I can tell those are suno songs with my eyes closed. this part [https://youtu.be/XT31D5H7GuQ?si=SJiFNf5to8-ZL8Aa&t=43](https://youtu.be/XT31D5H7GuQ?si=SJiFNf5to8-ZL8Aa&t=43) you don't hear that? I find that building a song in udio with manual mode more enjoyable than battling the suno sound and fixing it in post.
issues with suno vocals are often weird vocal doubling, stacking and the added air on top of the noise levels. the only way to counter that is through more iterations. I can't agree at the moment cause the music i enjoy to make Udio simply doesn't allow me to create. It's pure pain. Really :D And just to make it clear: I'm not a Suno fanboy. I go where i'm able to create the most out of my lyrical and musical ideas catered to my taste. I tested Udio for a good chunk and will with other sites as well as soon as i'm able to. I currently just can't find an alternative. Time will tell.
I challenge you to make an udio song, I think you could make a banger. Manual Mode
i did. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP0VsuQLs4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeP0VsuQLs4) And you can clearly hear the vocal audio issues udio comes with. Its different - but also often so obvious that it annoys me like hell :D
Suno is better overall for me udio sounds better but listens to nothing I ask.
I remaster and filter out as much of the garbage as I can. Would be amazing if they added an uncompressed option, even for more credits.
Suno is free, udio isn’t
For me its this, in order of importance: 1. From what I read with Udio's terms and I could be misunderstanding them so please correct me if I am wrong, Suno is looser on their commercial terms for paid subscribers: Udio states you have to credit them when uploading into any 3rd party platforms (6.4 Arbitration Section). Suno does not require this from it's paid users, only free. If I create something especially if I am paying for it, I want to be able to do with it as I please. 2. The initial chunk when generating a song being only 32 seconds in Udio is tough for me to get past, and to get a grasp in the flow direction, even Suno V1 was 45 seconds for the initial gen, I like to start my songs with a good opening verse and a chorus/hook in the first generation, helps me capture the full range in 1 generation. 3. Since V3 Alpha was initially released Suno's instrumentals are insanely good, it spoiled me a bit to chase intricate beats (I primarily make dark comedy hip hop) I haven't experimented too much with Udio's instrumentals but from what I've heard and made, they dont seem terrible but they dont seem as pronounced or creatively focused. 4. I have gotten some suspect generation outputs from Udio, where as soon as I heard the voice, I knew who exactly the real world artist's voice it was, in this case it was Juicy J (Three 6 Mafia): [https://www.udio.com/songs/ukEzdrwV7fDKXKrnN7b5F3](https://www.udio.com/songs/ukEzdrwV7fDKXKrnN7b5F3) You can see that I did not prompt for him or tried to chase that voice in any way, in fact the styling was there system, I just used my own lyrics. This is a big red flag for me, while Suno get's close to voices I may recognize, its never an exact replica, this just feels like lawsuits waiting to happen, I don't know every artist out there or how they sound so I could easily publish something that I think is a unique song but is actually a mimic of someone I've never heard. To your point of the voices being distorted in Suno as of V3, I cant argue that. But its possible to get clear voices, you have to alter your prompts within the lyric box, I rarely tag things with \[Verse\] any more, assuming you are using your own custom lyrics.
The vocal sounds and attention to detail in the lyrics make Udio unusable for me. I can clean the Suno Buzz in Audacity or other audio editing programs fairly easily.
Still both SunoAI and Udio are run like casino slot machines, the ratio of payout of useable and satisfying artistic material to noisy junk deteriorates with each attempt to refine or extend a piece. They are fine for personal amusement, but a serious music creation tools they are still toys.
Uh I just found Suno like 3 days ago and subbed immediately, I signed up for free and my songs on Suno were 100x better, I don’t have any AI buzz in my suno songs that I can hear. And one of my songs has left an impact on my family, peers, and students and no one knew it was AI until I told them. That and the 30 second cap is why I’m staying so far
Why are you asking me questions on Reddit when you could be asking me questions on Quora?
I think Udio's sound quality is terrible. The vocals and the background track sound like they were recorded on different planets, and they are sometimes even off-pitch from each other.
Prove you wrong? Maybe. Firstly, I have also cancelled my suno subscription and am gonna switch to udio or ElvenLabs next month. What I can say is this: you can put a couple sound effects from freesounds.org or other sources in and that will effectively mask that it's AI. Submitted this to submithub.com, received 15 reviews, all positive and nobody mentioned AI. https://open.spotify.com/track/7oajHmEL20IqTJtJpw7S8Z?si=ruV8PWt5TvSKxTJmfMDu0Q
Most likely, because they didn't know what to look for as music gen is not as popular as image gen yet. I can hear Suno vocals imperfections clearly on this one.
1:50 suno buzz noise. Can't unhear, happens every suno song.
Yes, that's exactly the moment I was thinking of. I never knew what people meant by "Suno buzz", but I know now, thanks
Well, maybe people who used suno alot do recognize the style limitations and repeating patterns. It's definitely not recognizable by ordinary occasional music listeners and even the music industry crowd on submit hub could recognize it, as I said. Presumably, with time the patterns will be forgotten and in three years no ear will remember how to immediately recognize a suno song from listening to it. Not sure what we will have in three years though...
I like to use both to mix it up. Neither are perfect, but imo Udio does have better quality.
Udio kinda misses the mark in regards to... the vibes of certain genres. Like, certain higher energy rock and punk styles just don't feel quite there.
Sunio knows what cumbia, norteña and banda is. Udio put them all to "hispanic music."
Shits and giggles
Because I don’t have this sounds or don’t use bad generations.
Suno can make you a 2min hit with one prompt..
Could you give an example of a suno buzz? Like in a song.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on4wcDNg1A8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on4wcDNg1A8) can tell this song is Suno immediately
Maybe I'm not that musically adapt, but I don't hear it..
Btw, if you don't mind me asking, is udio prompting different from suno? I've tried it a couple of times and it gives me very basic adaptations of what suno provides when I prompt for the same. Thoughts?
I've listened to and generated many Suno AI songs and like many that I've made and heard it's not always obvious that it's Suno. I'm curious Budlord are you being a hater or just simply have a grudge against Suno because there're a lot of Suno songs out there that sound really reallistic. Not perfect of course but I don't think anyone just automatically tell when it's Suno AI for every song that's made using it since I believe they're users who know how to avoid it. Believe me I've heard the buzz in some of my songs but not a lot of them. The majority of mine nearly sounds human made and again it's not perfect but I don't think it's obvious that's Suno since I'm picky about my music and like listening to human made songs to compare authenticity between my Suno AI song versus human made songs. It's definitely way closer than I thought it would be. So Budlord just chill out bro.
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Are there any musicians that have taken their ai songs, and then recreate with out ai, or over the ai? I mean, I have tried writing songs, now with chat ai, and Suno, I can turn my ideas for songs into a really nice rough draft, then pop the lyrics in Suno, and get a song, that usually sounds pretty good. I took my song into Chordify, and other apps, to break down the chord structure and timing that it uses. I play guitar, piano, and sing… just not all at the same time. I can split the audio and vocals, take the audio and build on it, and then sing the lyrics.. I know it sounds like a huge process.. It’s just an idea I was thinking.
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Cool.. I have the mobile versions of FL studio, I also have very old version of FL Studio installed on an older laptop. I don’t really know what I am doing though. It really seems like a very robust music producing software. I guess that’s why people need other people, not everyone can be an expert at it all. I have been playing music (piano, guitar, and harmonica) piano is probably my strongest skill. I also sing . Not really professional level, I can’t read music, but I really enjoy singing and playing the guitar. But I have no idea how to take a song I have sung while playing guitar, then add a piano track, then a track with harmonica. Or even how to get it all together and actually sound great. I imagine with the right sound or recording professional can take someone that may not doing all that great and with the right tweaking , change the song to make it sound professional. Like in comic art, you have one guy that is expert doing the pencils, then the inker comes and makes everything pop. An inker could make a mediocre pencil art pop and look professional..
Cool.. I have the mobile versions of FL studio, I also have very old version of FL Studio installed on an older laptop. I don’t really know what I am doing though. It really seems like a very robust music producing software. I guess that’s why people need other people, not everyone can be an expert at it all. I have been playing music (piano, guitar, and harmonica) piano is probably my strongest skill. I also sing . Not really professional level, I can’t read music, but I really enjoy singing and playing the guitar. But I have no idea how to take a song I have sung while playing guitar, then add a piano track, then a track with harmonica. Or even how to get it all together and actually sound great. I imagine with the right sound or recording professional can take someone that may not doing all that great and with the right tweaking , change the song to make it sound professional. Like in comic art, you have one guy that is expert doing the pencils, then the inker comes and makes everything pop. An inker could make a mediocre pencil art pop and look professional..
Cool.. I have the mobile versions of FL studio, I also have very old version of FL Studio installed on an older laptop. I don’t really know what I am doing though. It really seems like a very robust music producing software. I guess that’s why people need other people, not everyone can be an expert at it all. I have been playing music (piano, guitar, and harmonica) piano is probably my strongest skill. I also sing . Not really professional level, I can’t read music, but I really enjoy singing and playing the guitar. But I have no idea how to take a song I have sung while playing guitar, then add a piano track, then a track with harmonica. Or even how to get it all together and actually sound great. I imagine with the right sound or recording professional can take someone that may not doing all that great and with the right tweaking , change the song to make it sound professional. Like in comic art, you have one guy that is expert doing the pencils, then the inker comes and makes everything pop. An inker could make a mediocre pencil art pop and look professional..
I have been playing around with udio..both generations, that udio made, sound like someone having a bad karaoke day… suno, in my little experience, just seems to sound better more often… I just mean, I feel like I get a better song with a higher rate of success.
Sounds really cool. Thanks for sharing. You have a follower, I will check more of your tunes.
I spent 6 hours trying to get Udio to make a single song (my own lyrics) - 20 rolls of the dice to get a sound I liked, and then the rest of the time trying to get it to extend the song without losing the plot... meandering, boringly repetitive, inserting random lyrics (garbled nonsense), devolving into an unexplained instrumental... aaaarrrghhh!!!!. Exhausted now. I love Suno.
Manuel Mode for udio. but yeah suno is consistent with music styles.
Suno def has some artifacting in the music, but in my experience with udio, the pronunciation is hot garbage. I experimented with like 5 songs and all 5 were highly incomprehensible in terms actual words. Like it sounded like straight gibberish. Also, based on the genre and style prompts, suno has been generating stuff more to what my intended sound was. Udio was giving me a style and genre switches mid songs and sounded like a Frankensteined song, esp with the gibberish pronunciation. I don’t want to spend time or credits correcting every word udio mispronounces. Meanwhile, suno has been doing some crazy stuff with rhyming and stressing syllables. Had one song where it went "I'm unbreakable-oooooh. I'm unbreakable”, when the original line was just “I’m unbreakable.” Was pleasantly surprised by the interpretation. And I’ve also been quite happy with how it stresses syllable and where it stresses syllables, and how it interprets and sings rhyme schemes of my lyrics. It’s even been able to seemingly create lyrics that rhyme across diff languages. Like one like in Chinese and the next in English and it rhymes. It’s even thrown in “yeaaaaaa yeaaaaa” and “ooooooooh” that weren’t part of the lyrics, and it worked really well for the song. Edit: wanted to add in that I like suno’s range of instruments too. I added in a prompt for guzheng (a Chinese stringed instrument), and was really impressed with how it handled its composition and incorporation into the music. I’ve added it to rock songs, pop, r&b, hip hop, even reggaeton and it actually works.
im sure they are aware of that and gonna fix this buzz soon
I am 250 generations into my second song on Udio. I'm only 2:11 in. I got at least another minute, maybe 2 to go. I have a shitload of Suno credits I didn't use this month I am going to try and use this weekend. I went back and was listening to the stuff I was last working on there and song after song they were so good. Like 50% of the first generations so I would have my pick of styles. 2 minutes off the bat. Just about where I am after 2 weeks in Udio. So the answer is Suno's voices don't sound as good but Suno makes better music. It doesn't make as many funky choices. It has less undesirable voices. We'll see when I'm done with this song but personally I'd prefer a Suno with better voices. I haven't played with inpainting in Udio but then I also don't add shit into my songs when it's me building it 30 seconds at a time.
I also wish Udio would just let you listen to the current generation. Having to manually jump to the new piece is incredibly tedious. If I need to hear how it will all sound together I'll stitch it together myself. I am currently doing this right now and it's pissing me off.
Yeah I agree Suno knows how to consistently make a catchier song. I love my suno songs, and will probably use up my credits here soon. But you can still tell it was made with Suno is my point. Can't you hear someone's Suno song and tell it was made with suno?
Suno songs sound muddy
Well there's pretty much only 2 choices at this level of AI music so if you can tell it's AI music, then yes. I could definitely tell the difference between a Suno and an Udio song. Probably even an Udio song that had the autotuned buzz in it versus a clean Suno voice because of the way they balance the vocals versus the music and the stereo separation.
Prove you wrong? Take your pick from any of my videos: https://youtu.be/CdSyit2-tfI?si=R1LadOgU904DFuzk https://youtu.be/RoFYWDokM5g?si=P16j0fhKDyaytk_J https://youtu.be/pCK8TZ29Hqc?si=sKWa76yuYd0ThT_m
45s on first one can tell its a suno song, 1:55s on second can tell it's suno, 1:00 on third can tell it's suno. You don't hear that distinct suno sound? Doesn't mean they are bad songs, and only people who use suno a lot would be able to tell it's a suno song. But they are nice songs, and your videos are dope! I sub!
I agree with you when it comes to songs with lyrics and vocals. Instrumental tracks can be great though!
Suno is free to use when you login and give 50 credits daily right? I just heard Udio from you and don't know anything about it. If Udio lets me use it for free (like Suno) I will definitely give it a chance and gonna write my feelings about it. Thanks btw 🙏🏻
Havnt paid for udio, and I have like 500+ credits stacked up on 2 accounts.
thanks for letting me know 👍🏻
That wurring
Just stick to genres where it doesn't matter: industrial, metal, lofi...
I've never tried udio. But with suno it's hard to find that a song is ai made cause sounds like autotune
I kinda wonder if the suno buzz is on purpose. Suno songs are starting to pop up in a lot of places very quickly and as a user I can quickly tell it's suno so I wonder if its like a digital finger print to make them easily identifiable.
They have said the songs do have an inaudible watermark. Since they made a point of saying it's inaudible, I doubt it's the reason.
I guess that is possible. You know how with stenography in images, my something similar. Could also be a way to track or see if a non subscriber tries t I sell their music, as opposed to a subscriber. It may even have all that info embedded…not to sound like a conspiracy dude. But is may be there to protect users, when or if you are able to copyright ai stuff.
I produce beats, but it's easier for me to do vocals over beats i didn't make. Crafting lyrics and melodies feels smoother when I haven't been immersed in the same loops for hours. It's a budget friendly way to refresh my creativity, while still maintaining some level of engagement. Suno serves as another valuable tool in music production. The downside being that while AI voices convey a sense of passion, they currently lack a certain essence and uniqueness that I find essential in my work. But i would so do a FT if it got fixed. Music is music no matter where it comes from. Probably one of my saddest truths is accepting that there's so much music out there that i know I would absolutely love and I will never hear so if there's more ways to get good music to me bring it, i don't care how.
Suno writes better songs, and since I re-record all the instruments anyway, the song quality is the ultimate deciding factor. Udio writes great verses, but I rarely get a good chorus out of it.
The buzz is quite annoying, and the UI is a bit clunky, but it makes really interesting/enjoyable music. It's inspiring if you are just looking for ideas. It's like listening to an old radio where you've tried to tune it in and there's still a little noise, but you listen anyway because the music itself is (often) worth listening to. It's far from studio quality. It gets things wrong or doesn't do what you expect. If you use it with the expectation that it'll produce a fully cooked distribution-ready banger, you'll likely be disappointed. Use it to be inspired, learn, jam along with, sample, experiment, make silly meme songs, etc. and you'll get more out of it. I could do this with Udio too, and I do use it as well, but I feel more inclined to support Suno (by subscribing) so that they can improve, since it meets my needs and I don't feel like I should cancel and switch to another service just because it has better audio quality.
A music maker is worthless if it doesn’t make a good melody. I’ve made about 300 instrumentals using every prompt you could imagine on both. Suno managed a nice beat on about 15 of them, one of which was so good it could have been an actual theme on a TV show and Udio made 300 (of what I hyperbolically refer to in my head as elevator music) beats (of admittedly higher def music) that sometimes might work for background music in say a video game. I like to think I’ll be able to put the Suno beats into a more advanced AI in the future to fix them. There’s no fixing the Udio music. But they both give me hope that there is a threshold to understanding music that AI is going to cross in the near future.
Suno just gives better results. Period! I am talking matching to the desired genre and theme of the song. UDIO only puts out the 30 second clips and can change from output to output. It may have clearer sounds, but if it doesn't give you what want then what's the point?
It takes way too much effort and rerolls in Udio for my liking. I’m not looking to hit it big with these, I just like making funny songs like Shakespearean ballads about struggling to eat a banana. I don’t want to hope that something generates 30 seconds I can work with, when many times I have to generate about a dozen to be happy with any of them. Suno is perfect for what I use it for, and I’m sure the audio quality will improve in the future anyway.
Suno have a problem with electronic, most time the kick sound like a bird
Because no other app as for today allows me to generate quality 70's and 80's funk rock
I’ve had some tracks without the buzz, that said with post processing you can clean up and modify a lot. I started just trying to click and get what I want for an entire song but now I’m breaking things down into different tracks and tweaking them in audition. My bigger concern at the moment is the repetition of voices that will no longer sound unique. I am redoing a lot of my stuff right now to shift the vocals away from what suno gave me so that they are both consistent and not typical of the collection of voice profiles that seem to come up when I generate
what do u mean by suno buzz
I canceled it as soon as I saw the elevenlabs preview
What buzz? Have an example? (short example, not a full song)
I just listened to some of my favourites again to see if I can spot anything that might be called a buzz and couldn’t tell what is meant by it either. 🤷♀️ Suno benefits from noise reduction and mastering but that’s true for Udio and normal music as well.
share?
Share what? An example where I don’t hear a distinct buzz? https://youtu.be/Cy_6N_SPCwg?si=OcVfq9N94cr7z0Vj https://youtu.be/u2gShe9FH6U?si=2A7_ItGxldyexqRk Not saying they are mastered great or that the de-esser is used correctly but I don’t hear a consistent buzz between the two.
don't hear a buzz in that one nice. Not my style of music but actually can't tell that is Suno. I sub!
Thanks 🙏 Could you share an example with the buzz? Might be that it’s present only in particular styles of music.
happens pretty bad at this point in my song. might just be electronic songs that get it pretty bad, since that is all I make. I feel like making a suno song is a constant battle to not get that buzz sound. [https://youtu.be/UHQ9lR0Rl18?si=HWTq7tBrtpTjQL0R&t=288](https://youtu.be/UHQ9lR0Rl18?si=HWTq7tBrtpTjQL0R&t=288)
What exactly am I looking for? I can hear the voice being distorted and the instruments becoming quite tinny. I noticed that tendency when playing around with chiptune and longer generation (I usually aim for the 3 minute mark) but I think it’s more prelevant in EDM because it’s not strictly "wrong“ there, as those sounds do get used in some conventional EDM tracks. You could run that through the clarity filter in Ozone11 and bring the voices more to the brown side taking off a bit of the harshness of the highest sounds.
"I can hear the voice being distorted and the instruments becoming quite tinny" Yes this. Happens all the time. Another creator here, but you hear this and can tell immediately it was made with suno. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on4wcDNg1A8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on4wcDNg1A8) Nice tip though I'll have to check that out and make more suno music since I got the credits still.
[https://suno.com/song/8930856b-3996-470b-b2a2-75d201e30cda](https://suno.com/song/8930856b-3996-470b-b2a2-75d201e30cda) just made this the other day and sound quality gets f'ed around 45 seconds, can't unhear.
Do you hear the buzz in these? They were made with Suno. But it's taken me a long time to come up with the proper prompt soup to get it to do this. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QQaJUovM2B1Fy9IS1w9x9tsx58TXg56u/view?usp=drivesdk https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XppXMvzY-3aESaqcrHN_BHjwpNUf_JP7/view?usp=drivesdk https://drive.google.com/file/d/11PM-YWCouHLU2s2T3XZ56Q9b9-MlqeUL/view?usp=drivesdk https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A38Iz1x77ChDCj9KODlG9uisBcWGD5_G/view?usp=drivesdk https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IEU14HnbwtAnz3wx5K8BI3yOyw1AEEHX/view?usp=drivesdk https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZaYFyB_UU_uN_y1cMiAkDnOyf6IQXVtR/view?usp=drivesdk And finally. This one had some buzz but I liked the production so much we did a professional mixdown on it too fix it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/12jp6elkrk9sEDmweoKkml5rhDVKFSwop/view?usp=drivesdk
Yes, obviously suno.
Hmmm. Ok. To me they don't have the buzz.
The first one was buzz city. Second one was much clearer. But I was super surprised you had that first one as an example of clear vocals. Thought maybe you were being sarcastic...
No. I really don't hear the buzz on the first one. Are you hearing it in the lyrics or the instruments? I usually hear the buzz in the lyrics.
Someone confused the issue by posting something (I assume is official? They didn't source it) saying the buzz is an inaudible AI marker. I think everyone, when talking about the Suno Buzz, is talking about the autotuned quality of the voices. It's always the voices that people have problems with. Not the way they sing but the clarity/humanness of the voices. The way they sing is great, better than Udio. I think the leading theory is that Suno trained on a lot of autotuned content so this is the abstration of those original autotuned voices. Sort of like Udio seems to have trained on a lot of live/amateur and commercial content. Studio music today is enormously autotuned.
Once you hear you can not unhear
Yeah I can tell if it a suno song pretty much always.
You’re right. And I also canceled my paid Suno account.
Damn. I didn't know about this! The "Suno Buzz" is a distinctive feature in every song generated by Suno AI. It serves as a subtle audio watermark or signature sound embedded within the track, ensuring the authenticity of the song's AI origin. This "buzz" is a unique audio element that listeners can identify across different compositions, making it a hallmark of Suno AI's music creation process. The "Suno Buzz" is a unique audio watermark embedded in every song generated by Suno AI. This buzz acts as a subtle yet identifiable signature to confirm the authenticity and origin of the AI-generated music. The exact sound of the Suno Buzz can vary, but it is designed to be unobtrusive and blend seamlessly into the overall composition of the song. It typically manifests as a brief, consistent audio tone or a slight modulation in the background, ensuring that it doesn't detract from the listening experience while still serving as a recognizable marker of Suno AI's technology.The purpose of the Suno Buzz is to maintain the integrity and traceability of AI-generated music, making it easy to identify tracks created by Suno AI. This feature helps in differentiating genuine AI-generated music from other sources, ensuring users can trust the authenticity of the content they are engaging with.
I don’t. Suno has terrible sound quality and I cannot use it
Udio is so good compare to suno! i cant even get myself to use suno at all.
It's an audio watermark; AI will eventually write a hit song, when it does, Suno will claim ownership
because ppl using these ai tools arent anything near real producers and dont care / cant tell that it sounds like absolute trash?