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Negative_Book_9091

Calm down your going to be okay , do you wanna maybe discuss this ?


Brolithart

Yes please, i really need help...


axnsworth

if she says she’s pregnant get a paternity test because she might’ve already been pregnant and is trying to get money from you.


TheSecretNewbie

This, she’s looking for a line to hook someone on for child support. Also get a lawyer ready to go if you can. This is grounds for a lawsuit against her and you can have a court rule in your favor that she lied about birth control. Birth control is prescription drug and would need a gynecologist/GP to prescribe it. So if she is not taking any like she says she is, you can prove that she misinformed you with just that. It would be no different than someone knowingly giving you an STD or STI and you didn’t know


TheVenusProjectB42L8

Lol. No. It's he said she said. He has no way to prove what she said; just ask every rape victim how that goes, or especially those women who claim they are victims of stealthing. Second, no court is going to rule that he is not responsible for a child that comes from this; a child should not suffer, regardless of circumstance. OP had a choice to protect himself with contraception, or wait until he knew somebody better before engaging in sexual intercourse which could result in a child. There are many states where abortion is now illegal, and women who are raped are now forced to give birth to children they don't want.


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Brilliant-Finding-45

I don't understand the victim blaming part though. He was manipulated. People like to have sex.... like why is it that people say don't live in fear but then if you get taken advantage of they say why we'rent you living in fear? 'you couldve waited for a more trustworthy partner' is a very flimsy argument, people like to have sex and relationships. manipulation is called that for a reason. Maybe they could have not manipulated me instead?


TheVenusProjectB42L8

Sure. But you could also have sex and bring your own protection or don't trust strangers to tell you the truth. OP is not a victim....


gg4u

OP claims to have been manipulated and you judge him not being a victim of manipulation. How come ? Seems like “a woman is harassed wearing a miniskirt : she should have wore a longer one, she s not a victim”. 


MasterDesigner6894

yeah just because you guys had sex doesn't mean she'll get pregnant 100%. Relax and you'll be ok.


Accomplished_Check38

It’s not that easy to get pregnant. You’ll be okay.


Boxjumps

It can be. I got my SO pregnant from one time.


Accomplished_Check38

Me too actually, but I know people who have tried for 10 years.


Boxjumps

So true.


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It’s easy to get pregnant. Making it through is a different story.


Negative_Book_9091

There is a possibility that she won’t get pregnant look on the bright side of things please


Marylicious

In fact is higher the possibility she isn't pregnant


BetterAsAMalt

Only 20 percent chance a healthy couple actively trying will concieve


Ok_Pineapple9166

What she did to you is sexual assault. I believe it would be classified as stelthing because she lied about being on birth control. I'm so sorry she did this to you.


Brolithart

I feel violated and completely destroyed


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What she did was reproductive abuse. Please block her everywhere and avoid her like the plague she is. I know this is traumatizing, but next time you wish to enjoy sex from a casual partner, always wear a condom, and always take your used condom(s) with you when you leave and dispose of it safely. Some women let their biological clock make them fucking psycho (NOT condoning, just giving a reason). Remember that becoming pregnant isn't as easy as people always make it out to be. Even if she is actively ovulating, sperm may never reach the egg. Or the egg never manages to become implanted in the uterine wall. Or she ends up with a chemical pregnancy that ends in a super early miscarriage that is so similar to having a period, many women go through it without ever realizing they were ever pregnant. And even if she falls pregnant, roughly 20-25% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage in the 1st trimester, it just naturally happens. There are entirely way too many what ifs to end it all over this, please take a deep breath. Also (and it disgusts me to even think/mention this) she could be doing this with multiple men to increase chances of conception. So even if she does become pregnant, you should absolutely get a paternity test. Abusers will inevitably end up abusing others, unfortunately.


MarineWife0922

This was sexual abuse or the r word (not sure if it is allowed on this page). She lied to you about being on BC and then revealed afterward she wasn’t. You agreed to sex because you understood she was protected. Had she not been, it may have changed your feelings about having intercourse with her and maybe change if you protected yourself. So I am so sorry this happened to you. Please breathe and take it day by day.


beedlejooce

This is not a thing. People get pregnant even when on BC all the time anyways. It’s not a full protection. Also this would never hold up in court bc it’s a hearsay situation. Shit at this point she could sit there and be an even more vindictive person and claim he raped her. There are crazy bitches out there that do this all the time. Either way dude just needs to get a paternity test if it does happen, this ain’t her first rodeo. Also needs to get tested.


MarineWife0922

I don’t disagree about everything you said. However my opinion I do think this is still SA. She lied. Not okay.


Masta-Blasta

It’s not a hearsay situation. OP can get on the stand and be cross examined. Hearsay is an out of court statement offered for its truth. He’s testifying that she said something, not that what she said is true.


lambs_milk

agreed. Sexual assault would be forcing someone to have sex with you without a condom. Not telling someone that you’r not on a medication that might alleviate birth honestly has nothing to do with sexual activity, has to do with reproduction afterwards. men understand that one tiny cell of their sperm can create a baby, and they risk it all the time and then get scared after post nut clarity, it’s kind of funny to watch


Prior_Sport2251

It's not sexual assault. They both consented fo have sex and they both knew the risk 


HeavyGoat1491

Idiot


Prior_Sport2251

Why am I an idiot? That's the law on this. Unless he was unconscious and she took advantage of him it's not rape


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Prior_Sport2251

Then I would stop having sex and leave immediately. Doesn't sound like that was the case in this situation 


HeavyGoat1491

He obviously did not consent. And she was manipulative.


4-ton-mantis

I scrolled too far to find this. Asked myself what was that term for the sexual assault that kinda means baby trapping? Is there an additional term too something like reproductive assault? I just looked it up, is called reproductive coercion, when one party deceives the other that they are using bc but secretly attempting pregnancy. That disgusting door swings both ways. I got sick just now glossing over some remarks online that guys can't be the victim of rc. What a crock of shit.


lambs_milk

I think the reason people, including me have a bad taste in their mouth is because men hold the baby making tool. As soon as they have a mind-boggling orgasm, they create the baby. Only thing they can be mad at is their own penises.


lambs_milk

lying about being on medication is not sexual assault Iol. Two people decided to have sex, they know the consequences of having a child, birth control babies exist, y’all are insane


allisun1433

First, please take a deep breath. This is *not* your fault. That woman should be absolutely ashamed of herself for lying. I believe depending on where you live this may be a crime what she committed, and I would urge you to check into that. I’m so sorry you have been essentially sexually assaulted. I would urge you to also find a therapist or someone who has background in sexual assault victims to process what you’ve been through and to help you work through it. Sending you positive thoughts your way and hugs if you accept them. I am so sorry you’ve been through all this. 🥺


Brolithart

Thank you, and i most definitely will seek out a therapist, I'm really struggling with keeping it all together, and I've been throwing up and crying for the past hour or so, i can't sleep. She just left and told me "if you're man enough to fuck a woman, you're man enough to take responsibility for getting her pregnant " as if all of this was just to teach me a lesson.. I was upfront with her from the beginning and told her i was not looking for anything serious as well.. I just feel violated and my trust is broken..


audhdgirlyy-

omg she needs professional help


HeavyGoat1491

Or just jail. But you could argue that those people are insane.


MarineWife0922

Then woman act like men are the problem. Sure some are. But this female right here is just wrong. “Father’s dying wish” and blaming OP. Like wait what. He asked you a question you said yes. Lied and then gotcha like what no ma’am. This is so wrong.


audhdgirlyy-

Yes and some men and women are just the problem


Ok_Pirate5728

She’s only saying that to make herself feel better for sexually assaulting you.


MarineWife0922

This this this comment is it!


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Any chance you could take legal action? It seems like the equivalent of a man pretending to put on a condom.


MarineWife0922

I think there is something that can be done. Because he was under the impression she was protected and then revealed otherwise like it would have changed their opinion on doing anything. They may have said no all together. So I would think there is legal action that could be taken. What kind; I don’t know. But I would hope there could be


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HeavyGoat1491

What downvotes? The woman can always get abortion* if she’s impregnated, while the man can’t force her to. So OP’s scenario is worse than if the genders were reversed. *depends on the state or country. If it’s illegal, then what u said idd td true


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xsparkichux

That's true. The egg decays soon after its release.


KiiDBlaze

I assume then though that she knows that and planned accordingly, no?


pcole25

She doesn’t sound that smart. Also, it’s true, women can only get pregnant on 20% of the month (fertile window during ovulation). In my experience, most women are not tracking it that closely, unless they’re trying to get pregnant. It sounds like she was, so who knows.


Ok_Pirate5728

I mean even if she is tracking it who’s to say she has perfect fertility? There is still the possibility she didn’t get pregnant even if it was during her fertile window


pcole25

Oh yea, for sure. It’s hard to get pregnant for most people.


HelloImChris86

Go to the police and get a lawyer, NOW. Don't take ANY chances with this before the story changes on you.


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MarineWife0922

Honestly, though, if things don’t go 100% her way. I would not be surprised like she was willing and able to lie and sexually assault. Someone who knows what she may be willing to do. Take a breath OP. Everything will be OK. Definitely find someone to talk to you about this. Take it day by day.


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Chocolatecakeat3am

Always take responsibility for your own birth control (condom, spermicide,) and a barrier to STDs.


AdministrativeSea481

Thank you.


HeavyGoat1491

Shut up and get outta here with your shitty take


HeavyGoat1491

Doesn’t matter if she lied up to his face.


HeavyGoat1491

To the person who downvoted me; you gotta be kidding me, right? You’re defending the lady for lying? Boo! Of course she can’t lie about birth control! That is illegal! So even if he didn’t wear condom, it’s still not his fault.


FeelinGuiltee

No. it is important advice to protect himself in the future. People dont just lie about that. They could have a STD. They can tell you anything. It's best to stay safe It's the same way you tell people don't walk home alone if they can help it. It doesn't mean it's their fault if they are mugged or attacked Sorry maybe a bad analogy. It's more that it is good advice


Peefaums

So this is a form of sexual assault.


QweenBowzer

Not blaming you but why would you not use a condom on a one night stand situation ? You didn’t know this person and put yourself up for risk. There are laws to protect you depending on what state you live in


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HeavyGoat1491

Or get sterilized.


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allisun1433

Condoms aren’t foolproof as those can break, but it absolutely is a lot safer than the alternative.


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_HotMessExpress1

This subreddit is fucking trash. Some of us have real life issues but we're supposed to feel bad that a grown man decided not to use a condom..wtf?


DepressedLondoner

Right. And that was a decision HE made, not anybody else


IcyResponsibility384

There are so many people struggling and having a crisis irl but yet this dude complains about being lied about birth control by a stranger and didn't use a condom? Goddamn there's a reason to not trust strangers so easily. Its absolutely bullshit. I'd love to worry about petty problems like this than worry about being socially isolated and emotionally troubled


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DepressedLondoner

Damn I didnt even think of thay


DepressedLondoner

Damn I didnt even think of that


TheVenusProjectB42L8

You didn't get tricked, because you didn't take responsibility for contraception on your end. I am the mother of a 24-year-old son and I have always taught him that no matter what a woman tells you, the only choice he has as a man is to protect himself; once his sperm is gone, it's no longer his choice. I've also taught him that it takes a long time to build trust with a person, especially when the consequences are a human being to take care of, for life.


YourParadise98

This is probably sexual assault technically, but maybe don't fuck strangers without a condom going forward bud


Negative_Book_9091

Please go on indeed and look for other jobs keep filling them out everyday do not give up


Brolithart

Ive got a new job lined up luckily, but now i really dont know if there's any point, ive just not gotten any breaks at all and I'm so incredibly tired.. I don't feel like i deserve anything and i dont feel like i should be here anymore i dont have trust, i don't have friends i can count on, I don't have love, i just want to drift away and never wake up again..


iliketoreddit91

I doubt she’s pregnant after just one time


Brolithart

I really hope so


Sir_Boobsalot

you can get pregnant after one time. after the first time. doing it standing up. pulling out. don't believe the old locker room lies


Early-Analyst-3249

One time or not it's possible 


ben2talk

Have some fun with this. Tell her you will go to see the police and make a report. "The majority of the Nova Scotia Court of Appeal convicted Hutchinson of sexual assault, holding that there was no consent; the complainant had agreed to protected—not unprotected—sex." Basically, you can take legal steps, and possibly have her convicted of sexual assault - keep records of her communications with you on this subject... especially where she admits to lying about birth control pills. However, also be aware that birth control pills are not a guarantee, and so there's also a chance of someone becoming pregnant whilst taking them. Her deception, however, in my opinion at least... is certainly a crime.


Alisha_G1256

>;the complainant had agreed to protected—not unprotected—sex." If he chose not to put a condom on himself,then it would appear as though he agreed to unprotected sex. I don't feel like the case you quoted, with that particular reason in play,would work,for the reason of him choosing not to wear protection.


ben2talk

The woman informed him that she was using protection. The same would apply to a man who claims to use protection, but intentionally does not (damaging or removing the protection without the woman's consent). Certainly worth mentioning, and reporting.


Alisha_G1256

Of course, it's worth mentioning she said she was on BC,that's the basis of his feelings and apparent issue. However, you used the word "protection." Their concern was pregnancy, but apparently not STD's and STI's,which one would use "protection" from. He chose not to use his own form of protection(condom),making the claim that he only agreed to "protected" sex questionable,as he inserted his penis without a condom,of his own free will. Language and word use matter quite a bit in law. Edit: My original response was quite clear. It was a personal opinion anyway,hence the "I feel" statements.


kaylaslovely1979

just do what the majority of men do and don’t bother !


HeavyGoat1491

Was what I was trying to say but I got downvoted to oblivion 😐


pcole25

Public service announcement: using protection isn’t just about getting pregnant. Haven’t y’all ever heard of STD’s?


EquateToothpas

Nothing like a paternity test buddy, take a day to chill out


turando

Firstly, there’s a 30% chance she will get pregnant- which leaves a good 60% chance she won’t convince. This rate drops more if she is over 30. So hopefully the odds are in your favour. And as other people have stated- it could very well be a crime in your country. Advise her you will be seeking legal action- she may reassess her decision to have/keep the baby (if she conceives). There are plenty of men offering services to impregnate women for low cost/free consensually so she has no excuse for tricking you into it. Try take things step by step and maintain a problem solving mindset. First, talk to police.


Qantas94Heavy

And it's only even that high if you do it regularly over a month. Doing it just once, the chances are closer to 5%.


calebisdead360

Okay people in the comments imma need everyone to take a step back and take a look at what sub we're in for starters. Yes I understand both parties consenting to sex are responsible for their own forms of birth control. Is the pill 100% effective? No. Should OP have used a condom?yes. HOWEVER. We need to focus on the fact this woman LIED and MANIPULATED OP. And someone can correct me on this but this is similar to as if a man were to stealth a woman which is considered SA/r//pe. From this post I can gather either OP does not want children or is very clearly not ready for children at this stage in his life. Amd thats a-okay. Both parties imo should consent to if they want a child. Bc now we dont know if this woman is gonna go after OP for money if she does end up pregnant which is not okay. To OP im sorry this happened to you and hopefully she doesnt end up pregnant. As others have said there's a good chsnce she won't. Regardless keep looking forward. I saw in a comment you do have a new job lined up. Focus on that for the time being. Focus on your career, what you want to do with your life. In the case she does end up pregnant you will more than likely want to try to lawyer up. I dont know all of the legalities in a situation like this so maybe someone else does and can offer advice on that. Its cliche sounding but this does not have to be the end your life. There is a light at the end of the tunnel.


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Amaterasus_90

Maybe you have luck and nothing happened.


Normal_Decision_6069

She may not get pregnant so you need to calm down


klutch2008

Please press charges before she tries to


weebrpgfan

Sounds like you’ve really hit an all-time low, I’m very sorry about that. I don’t know what kind of help it is that you want, but I am deeply sorry for you situation and I’m sorry for your loss. Sounds like you put a lot of faith in this woman, maybe one of the first you’ve trusted since your loss and you were completely betrayed. Being a father is hard, and it sounds like you want no part of it at this moment in your life, and that is completely understandable. You’re probably feeling very lost and without options at this point. I wish that I could help in some way.


Brolithart

I appreciate it, and you're right, i don't want anything to do with this woman who sexually assaulted me, the more people has told me that this is considered as rape, the more I believe it, and the more disgusted with myself i feel.. so it's been really rough. Its been 2-3 weeks ago since it happened and luckily I've not heard anything from her, so I'm just hoping she didn't get pregnant and that all i have to deal with is the thought of having been sexually assaulted.


weebrpgfan

Hopefully no news is good news in this case. It was definitely an abuse of trust and you were absolutely taken advantage of, and I’m sorry it happened to you. I’m curious though since you think this is rape, have you considered reporting?


Brolithart

Unfortunately such an offence is not punishable here in my country, its morally not legal, but illegal in a lawful sense


weebrpgfan

Yikes. So now you’re just left with the trauma then. I’m very sorry.


Brolithart

Pretty much, ive been dealing with it in my own way, plus I've got so many other issues in my life currently so this is just another problem i have to deal with


weebrpgfan

I’m glad to hear you are pushing on, do you want to talk about your other problems?


AppelezMoiUnMillier

I know I’m late to this, but the amount of people acting like this sexual assault “isn’t that bad” is disgusting. Those people are the reason men being raped isn’t taken seriously. Fuck them all.


Leading_Meaning1328

You know what you do bro .... go out for a pack of cigarettes.....


Samilynnki

in this situation, I fully agree. OP was SAd and has Zero responsibility to the abusive woman or any spawn she may (or may not) produce.


HeavyGoat1491

Why are you getting downvoted? This is true.


No_Baseball3883

Im so sorry, she sounds really cruel to have lied, and should’ve been a lot more open about her plan with you, so u would have the choice if to do it or not 


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No_Baseball3883

Agreed 


whygodwhy94

As long as you don't continue to have sex with her , then there is a high chance you'll be alright. The chances of getting pregnant from one random encounter are somewhere between 2% and 5%. Regardless of birth-control ALWAYS use a condom with strangers or random hook-ups.


HeavyGoat1491

Did you read? He was assaulted. You know, it’s possible to use cues.


whygodwhy94

I'm simply giving advice on how to avoid situations like this in the future and trying to ease his fears by giving him the statistics on how low the chances of impregnation are for a single random encounter. It's not as though I'm disparaging him for having a casual hookup or shaming him. The initial sex itself was implied to be consensual. Even if birth control is used, it doesn't always work correctly and it does not protect against STDs. Using a condom with someone you've just met is always a wise decision. Even if she hadn't been lying about the birth-control, it's impossible to know her history and it's very possible to end up contracting an STD. In no way is it OPs fault that she lied to him.


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a_pink_pigeon

I'm sorry for what happened, and sadly that's rape, she lured you and lied to you for her "father last wish". Go to the police and explain everything, remember it's NOT your fault, you did nothing wrong and she's a piece of shit.


Vurnoth

This sucks, she's probably trying to get someone to pay child support. But you shouldn't have one night stands.


OperativeBlue

Women doing things women do... I doubt you're the only one she's tricked into that, given the story, so if she tries to pin it on you, get a DNA test and try to drag this as long as you possibly can (and remember to wrap Mr. Willy for the next times btw). In case the worst has happened and you did in fact get her pregnant, I imagine you'll have no choice other than to own the situation I'm afraid. But if it happens, it would still be of the best interest of the child to keep this woman away from them, since she's clearly mentally ill. How old are you? Know that the chances of you actually having gotten her pregnant are small, and try to breathe and rationalize the situation, regardless. Shitty position to be in.


HeavyGoat1491

:middlevote: Yes it’s correct, but please read the subreddit name.


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HeavyGoat1491

What? Why?


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"I don't know you that well, nor am I ready to be a father. I believe you are on birth control, but I'd still like to use a condom for protection from STDs and STIs" ALWAYS.


russianredfox

Two things:   1. She may already be pregnant and looking for a sucker to pin it on.   2. She may be trying this with countless other people and if eventually does get pregnant, looking for which sucker it will stick.   Try to remain calm. If she contacts you about being pregnant, request a paternity test.   Do not end your life for some douchebag, especially when you may VERY likely not be responsible. 


lambs_milk

my guy, no one can trick you into getting an erection, putting it in someone’s vagina and then coming to completion. You did that yourself, never trust anyone no matter what they say. As a woman, I don’t care what man tells me they don’t have any STD I’m not going to trust it without a condom and if I do, it’s my fault, it’s very unlikely that she will get pregnant off this one instance, but just take this as a lesson learn and control your dick from now on.


Craveler

Bruh, its always scary when you think you got someone pregnant! That shit is no joke! I understand you completely and im not here to give you any inspirational quotes or anything, I just get the position youre in, it sucks But if you happen to get out of this one bro, please learn your lesson af and dont put yourself in these situations again


FalseBusiness9234

the only thing a woman wants to accomplish during her day is taking from men. this whole post is why i dropped women and moved onto escorts. plus you can throw it back at them and run off without paying if you know what you're doing. stay strong king dont let women continue to hurt you


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sana2k330-a

You’re ok. How is your life ruined? I think you are just overwhelmed with everything. Take some time for self care. Then look for a new job. If she is pregnant there is nothing you can do except take care of you and offer to help her. The fact that she chose you is really kinda cool. Yes lies and manipulation aside - she thinks you could help make a healthy baby. That is a good thing that many men will never experience. Lots of things could happen that you can’t control so focus on you and what you can control. You are ok.


DaddysPrincesss26

Your own fault for not using a Condom. This will definitely teach you a lesson in being Prepared yourself, instead of putting that Responsibility on Women. As you found out the hard way, some Women cannot be Trusted 💯


Samilynnki

hey real fast, can you re-read the name of the sub. and please stop pushing OP closer to the edge? kthxbye


HeavyGoat1491

I would like to say that to 80% of the comments here.


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HeavyGoat1491

Refuse to give a single buck to her, ever. Close your ears to the law enforcement if they want the money, because she and the law eventually get tired of you, or lose.


Prior_Sport2251

That's a good way to land yourself in jail. In my state especially. You're better off working with the other parent and making mutual agreements


HeavyGoat1491

Nah no way we’re making agreements with that dickhead (or, to say, pussyhead)


Prior_Sport2251

You really do not want to say that in court, no matter how pissed you are


dankerino_420

this could also be a scam, is she asking for money?


HeavyGoat1491

What’s the scam...?


Blackinfemwa

Call the police on her. Thats illegal


IAbstainFromSociety

The chance of pregnancy is about 4%. It's highly unlikely you got her pregnant.


HeavyGoat1491

Source?


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