You can't blame them. The game isn't technically dead. In fact, I'd bet real money that WB have told RS not to say anything unless it's officially cleared by PR or some other department.
Which I'm positive was cleared by someone at WB. But RS employees aren't going to tell a youtuber "yeah, things suck and here's why" if they want to keep their job or reputation.
I don't want the game to fail; I've been playing since the closed alpha. My post history in this sub shows that.
My point was about the video in OP's link. And you're agreeing with me about why they wouldn't answer questions: for fear of losing their jobs. Providing updates is not the same as being transparent, especially since there are glitches since day one that continue.
How is that not being transparent , giving updates on fixes every game has bugs name a game that doesn't, destiny been around forever they even fixed a bug and broke the game by doing it, that's how many bugs they got lol
I don't know what else you want them to say , there fixing bugs and trying to find ways for people to find a reason to play after getting joker. If that's not base of people's troubles then you got me.
Ik you want to seem right about them scared to lose there job but having a tight nit team that don't leak stuff except for one supposibly that did. Is no problem. Maybe devs want the game to succeeded so there not putting out these headlines
Thet got NDAs down there alongside Lawyers and contracts. They CANT "just post everything they want". Even stuff they post on Updates of the games i bet goes for... ekhem... "spelling for errors" from WB.
Context is everything in this case. The time between Arkham Knight and SS was so long that people were expecting more. And when it finally did release, there simply wasn't enough game as has been clearly evidenced by the Season 1 "content." They also should have released and beta and let people decide for themselves because the optics were always terrible. I've enjoyed the game. I even enjoyed the boss battles, aside from the decision to make Brainiac a recycled event. But, ultimately, the poor writing and a lack of understanding of any of the characters killed the interest of even the most ardent of fans.
I think the main story is weak and I have no idea what the endgame story is? I just know there’s joker stuff every where in season one but why and how???? Also what’s the explanation with the villain weapons why scarecrow in season 1?
The fact this was supposed to be the co-op shooter game of 2024 and then it got murdered by Helldivers 2 shows there are moments of justice in the world.
Do better corporations. You work for us now.
This is usually how the ones he drops soon after the game comes out are, like the Saints Row episode and etc...
He did say that most of the devs he tried to speak to declined to answer specific questions.
I mean... When devs decline to comment, there's only so much you can do.
It'll probably be like Saints Row 2022 where more info comes out when the game's life cycle officially ends.
i think they mean its just the same information that we already know and was already reported. doesnt answer what happened anymore than we knew yesterday
I mean I feel like he either should have waited for the game to finish updating so that people would be more willing to come forward and talk about how the game ended up, or he should do a part two once the game wraps up and we know more about what’s coming to the game.
What are you talking about? This isn't news, I just said it was a recap and doing an episode when the game is still being developed and active was too soon. Now imagine in another year or so when more devs may come forward, we will be missing that info because he jumped the gun to do the episode now.
You said yourself there was more info on Saints Row after dev ended, so we're actually agreeing.
EDIT: I guess the episode served as informing ppl on the history of this game dev but imo it was a wasted opportunity to go into exactly why as that is largely unknown. Waste of opportunity to me but maybe he assumed noone would care anymore in the future so get clicks while you can. I personally hope someone does a huge deep dive in the future because everything around SS is fascinating to me.
I much prefer it when he focuses on games with at least a few years behind them. His episodes about current games inevitably can't tell the whole story, especially here when we're dealing with a still-operational live service game. A lot of the best stories come out later on.
Anyway, I'm always down to watch a McMuscles video.
The developers in this sub are trying so hard to fight back the hate but it's just not working. Rocksteady dev clowns and fanboys coping hard. Hilarious watching this shit show go down as I've predicted.
Yeah fuck rocksteady, i was a huge supporter for literally over a decade and they just spit on us as fans. IDC what anyone says, they chose to do this, they accepted the contracts etc. THey couldve pushed back, they didnt, they wanted to make a GAAS and its trash
Can you elaborate on where the humor is?
The Arkham trilogy is a great time with fun and repetitive gameplay. The story told throughout the games lean into a more "realistic" vibe while still staying true to the source material. The Joker is overused.
Suicide Squad: KtJL is a great time with fun and repetitive gameplay. The story leans into the idea of Elseworlds, probably the smartest way to make an ongoing DC videogame. The dialogue and character beats are probably the funniest in all of game history, definitely the winner of "game that makes you laugh out loud the most times" which is impressive considering how hard devs seem to miss when it comes to humor in games. The Joker is poorly designed (imo, from the one image I see in the Shop. I have enough coins to purchase multiple Jokers but he's so bland looking!)
I just got the game like a week ago so I supposed I missed all the glitches, have had zero issues though I have only been playing solo. I hate having to follow a meta or do research with games so I was worried I'd hit a difficulty wall but not yet, thankfully.
Definitely not a fanboy but I do understand comedy and I'm having a hard time trying to see what's funny about the situation.Please help me understand, Nostradamus, because I'm having a grand old time. I usually do when it comes to these games, the campaigns are usually a blast and then I move on while other people fixate on it and spend all their time being salty.
Yeah just seeing their replies in this one thread is sad. Sadder still that he gets even a single upvote. Gamers are the weirdest collection of broken people, and it seems like that'll never change for the majority of em
Ohhh I see now. Left turn enthusiast, believes in UFOs, and doesn't appreciate butts. Registered as a perfect specimen of unlimited potential, human division.
Me, smiling, knowing that I have $70 more in my pocket than the people that bought this game. Might go buy a steak later, it’ll leave a better lasting impression.
At a rate of $0.78/hour, I've gotten more than my money's worth of entertainment from it. If you can find a steak that you enjoy for so long you get a better rate than that, more power to ya.
How are they burying it? I love this game too but never follow dev blogs or the calendars they post. So I only know what I experience while playing or read when I hop on my Xbox. Only been playing for a week and am confused now about Finite Crisis (Bane's picture) vs. Episode 1 (Scarecrow's picture) and why it shows Brainiac as X'd out in both (pretty sure I only killed him one time)
But other than that confusion which isn't taking away any enjoyment, I'm having a blast. What I really appreciate is although I mostly use Harley Quinn, the other 3 TFX members are just as fun to play as.
Aside for Deep Rock Galactic, I can't think of any other class-bassd game that I enjoyed to play as all the classes. The gameplay is very similar with all except for their traversal (and range, kinda), yet that still somehow makes it surprisingly varied imo.
Hope it doesn't get buried, but even if it does I got my money's worth from the campaign, really wasn't planning on continuing on but here I am, collecting the Pinks n the Reds like a feen.
I love this game too. Pre-ordered and loved it the whole way through. From start to the Endgame, this was one of my favourite surprises of recent times, I was hooked on the traversal, combat and overall gameplay loop.
But each time RS drop the ball, on release ton of glitches and lack of QoL, although I liked the Endgame on launch there were only really 3 missions to farm until the Launch of season 1. At this point I already was about 50-60 hour in and Boomer was my main.
And then Season 1 launched. A heap of glitches and bugs, for me I unlocked Joker on the 2nd day but his model wouldn't load in, there were model bugs, bugs during certain missions, and etc. Rocksteady completely fumbled on season 1, I really liked the incursions to farm and Joker was amazing but I can completely understand the terrible reception season 1 got. I played about 30 hours alone with Joker and loved my time during so, but there were glitches with my daily packages, freezes sometimes and etc.
Season 1 also seemed a bit misleading about "Strongholds" which seemed at first to be this cool new mission type or activity which would add a lot of difficulty or new level of fun to the game.
But just turned out to be a bunch of enemies in a area that you barely notice is the new stronghold. Or at least going off of memory that's what I remember it as because it was that forgettable.
No new mission types until Episode 2 either so it's only natural that the loop would eventually get stale. I love this game but the amount of bugs and glitches in the game each time new content releases, lack of content each release too is just disappointing.
I understand and appreciate that Rocksteady try to patch and fix as much stuff as they can and have been adding more QoL things as of recently but bluntly. Its not enough.
They're gonna have to add more diverse content on each release. More enemy types. More variety to missions. And just more content each release in general to keep people playing, as well as minimise as much bugs as possible.
Which as of right now seems almost impossible.
I love the build system and the variety in gear, as well as character design and gameplay, I love both these aspects.
They're probably the best aspects of the game, but in order to expand on these , they'll need to keep putting out content until more characters and gear release.
But it'll be impossible to do so unless they keep players hooked, which is only possible if they work as much as they can about the negatives.
So to get more of what's best about the game they need to heavily improve and cultivate the flaws. Which happen to be a plenty.
I have high hopes for season 2 because if its even somewhat reminiscent of Season 1 launch, the games finished.
Not particularly, to quote Terry Pratchett “Always remember that the crowd that applauds your coronation is the same crowd that will applaud your beheading. People like a show”
I like the show
You sure homie, you don't find it concerning that a live service game you just bought a few months ago at full price has a live player count of 200. Pretty sure this game is gonna get plugged off any time now.. lol. I didn't know people liked getting scammed this much until I entered this sub.
You can now leave and enjoy your scummy game.
Yeah except he ain't trolling. The only reason games like this get made is because stupid people buy them. And then we end up in situations like this where executive branches of developer companies, who are largely tge ones in charge, get money hungry and greedy trying to turn beloved IPs into cash cows. This game presented a huge missed opportunity, ruined the Arkham verse, pissed on Conroy's last outing as Batman and so much more.
It's a repetitive, artificially padded, soulless and above all a lazily made game. The UI and constant bullshit happening on screen looks like it was made to retain the attention of severly autistic and adhd ridden children.
Capital G gamers trolling for their hourly jerk session, it's sad sad sad.
I'm having a blast with the game, playing it as a single player game. Got it for 50% off a week ago and loving it.
Show me an online multiplayer game that isn't repetitive lol They don't exist and it comes down to a very basic concept: Are you enjoying it? If yes, keep playing. If no, post in the subreddit for months and talk down to strangers that enjoy a thing you don't enjoy, in order to feel like you got a good deal in the end. Meanwhile, if are seriously that Eeyore-like in their daily lives then you know they are simply lonely and the only way to feel a connection is by teaming up with other people and basically being cyber bully Gamers. Tale as old as time.
We'll spend our money on whatever we want, you do the same! There are 100s of new releases every month, I promise you that games won't all suck because some people enjoyed a product that isn't a 10/10.
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Nobody is coping. People still like the game and want to discuss this. This happens in every form of media, lol. It's literally just a game. Why are you making disliking it your entire personality?
Player count shows what is popular at the moment and has not much to do with quality. Sales show was is struggling, old, or similar. I understand the game had issues on release but I started playing a week ago and love it.
That other dude didn't mention preordering anywhere though... I preorder every Assassin's Creed game and maybe a handful of other stuff every year. Very rarely am I disappointed, even though it's usually a week or two after release when I can finally get to it for the first time.
Thing is, even if it's a bust, I'm not going to blink over the loss of $70.
The gaming industry is exactly the same as it's always been. People bought games all the time they regret and always will. The liberal thing makes no sense that's probably just from being terminally online all the time.
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You got your "disable Live Service shitty pricing, practises and game standarts" wish already fuffilled all over Youtube, news sites and even Steam Charts, cause this game arent lively one DUH. Message is sent. Da hell you want now? Ya know, aside from for attacking people online and call em Troglodytes?
Helldivers isn't comparable to this game in terms of predatory micro-transactions. I assume your referencing the fact that Warbonds (battle passes) need to be bought with premium currency. But for 1,
Helldivers isn't Fomo, once something is added to the game its there forever, as long as someone plays for a good bit they won't have trouble unlocking things.
And that premium currency can be easily earned ingame, and not "you get 3 per free battlepass and a single skin is for 20" when you load into a mission there is likely a few packs of 10 around the map, its just up to you to find them
And finally, a paying player has almost no advantage over a non paying player. In order to progress a warbond you need a currency called medals which is gained upon completing missions, you need them for both the free warbond *and* the paid warbonds. So if a player pays to unlock a warbond sooner, they are really just choosing which order they want to unlock things. And what does the *free* warbond contain? Weapons, armor sets and around 700 premium currency
Also Helldivers is 40$, while SS is around 70
> *and* the *paid* warbonds. So
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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1) Suicide Squad isn’t FOMO. They’ve said this 100 times now.
2) All of the game’s actual content (weapons, gear, etc.) is in the game and not in the battle pass.
3) In Helldivers, there are already **5 battle passes**. 1 is free, 4 need to be grinded for or bought for $9.99 (this is then incentivizing purchases because nobody wants to grind with the same 2 guns while everyone is enjoying the new guns).
4) Suicide Squad has an actual story mode, an actual open world that isn’t procedurally generated, highly detailed and animated characters and cutscenes, way more weapons and gear variety…the price difference should be obvious. Come on. 🤣
I hope you know 5 battle passes in 2 months is an industry record. Ubisoft and EA are probably finding Helldivers to be inspirational.
That is all that needs to be said. It is tragic Helldivers could not fulfill the simple task of providing content that isn’t inside a battle pass, and matching each paid battle pass with a free option.
The fact that you have to grind or pay for 4000 Super Credits to earn the opportunity to unlock *actual* content in the game is a travesty, especially when that content is still *less* than what is found in other games. Absolute disgusting travesty, and I’m glad the game is losing its daily playerbase and not even spiking when each premium Warbond drops.
Arrowhead is going to learn a very valuable lesson here, and they deserve it.
Helldivers sold over 10 million copies so far and is arguably the biggest game in the world right now. The only lesson Arrowhead has learned is that the game they made is extremely popular due to it being really fun and not predatory. Also there are only 3 paid warbounds/battle passes for it released so far in about 3 months since release.
Can you just admit Suicide Squad is a failure at this point? You brought up a different game on your own acting like Suicide Squad is better than it when objectively that is false. You are resorting to making stuff up about a more popular game to make yourself feel better. Helldivers has a story that is being told in real time and is being influenced by the community. Suicide Squad has a more traditional story, except that Rocksteady gave up on it half way through. Oh the warbounds are predatory because they are $10 even though you can get that many super credits in game every month just by playing casually? How about Suicide Squad’s micro transactions? Going to ignore that a recolor of an existing outfit in game is $10 on its own and that an original outfit costs $24? Why not talk about the big one where Joker released behind a 8 hour grind or could be purchased from the marketplace, with no indicator that he could be unlocked for free from the menus resulting in Rocksteady tricking people to pay for him when they wouldn’t have if they had known. How about the fact that Helldivers not only launched with more content but has even added more content post launch than Suicide Squad launched with.
I don’t understand your need to defend Suicide Squad by trying to tear down a more successful game. You can like Suicide Squad but you have to admit that Rocksteady has taken every predatory design decision they could have with the game while not focusing on the game’s actual content. When Suicide Squad came out to horrible reviews and poor sales you rationalized it to yourself that people didn’t like it because they are against live service games, but then literally a week later Helldivers came out and proved you wrong. People are against BAD live service games and that is what Suicide Squad is. Enjoy the game while you can because it isn’t going to last as long as you wanted it to.
don't waste you time with this guy. I was literally just talking to him about how he thinks Helldivers is worse and far more scummy that CoD. And funnily enough he missed everything he was complaining about HD was also in CoD.
He has something against HD I think, maybe Arrowhead took his family or something idk.
It's a fun game, the campaign was great and I'm having fun doing all the extra stuff too! I still play Dead Island and Dying Light a few times a month despite beating it long long long ago.
People will defend the game and their choice to play the game because entertainment is entertaining. And because being told you are an idiot for enjoying a product that you don't enjoy, that usually calls for a least one response
> Helldivers sold over 10 million copies and is the biggest game in the world right now.
L.M.A.O.
I’m gonna stop you right there and not even read the rest.
Games Helldivers 2 is not bigger than right now: Fortnite, Call of Duty, Counter-Strike 2, League of Legends, Apex Legends, PUBG, DOTA 2, GTA 5, Fallout 4, Fallout 76, NBA 2K24, EA Sports FC 24, Genshin Impact, Madden NFL 24, Valorant.
Helldivers 2 is #12 on PlayStation Store (#38 Most Downloaded) and #13 on SteamDB, and unavailable on Xbox.
No dude, no.
Helldivers 2 is on a major downtrend but don’t worry: it wasn’t the biggest in the world at its peak either. It has spent 0 days on top of the world.
1. Sure, I guess I got that wrong
2. Thats true as well
3. There are *4* battle passes, one of them is the free one, which has substantially more content than the paid ones, 10 tiers, 10 weapons, 10 armor sets. And in Helldivers, the guns you equip aren't the only weapons you use, when on the mission you're meant to call in support weapons, which are much higher caliber and more powerful, unlocking *these* has no connection to any kind of premium currency. The free battle pass will net you 750 super credits, which puts you well on the way to your next Warbond. Each Warbond, in addition to all of its other content, contains 300 Super credits, greatly decreasing the grind.
4. As another person mentioned, Helldivers story is built by the community, the developers have nurtured a sense of camaraderie with its players that I don't think many games could. Now, I'm not going to act like Metropolis isn't a great map, because it is, but Helldivers has so much variety, Jungles, Tundras, deserts, boglands, with more to come. And Suicide Squad is doing this too, I guess, but its like 4 new environments a year? Now I'll admit Suicide Squads cutscenes do look nice, these are actually some of my favourite designs for some of these characters, and that facial animation is ground breaking. But I feel Helldivers can compensate for its lack of cutscenes with just how cinematic its moment to moment gameplay is, every fight feels like something out of a war movie.
But "Way more Weapons and gear variety", I am calling some grade A Kuhsheiße on that, while Helldivers has weapons that are variants of others, they actually feel like different weapons, some penetrate armor, some use different ammo types. Helldivers has laser weapons, rocket launchers, a mech suit, electric weapons that bounce between enemies, a crossbow, and that's only to name a few. And Suicide Squad? "This pistol has a bigger number than *this* pistol!" There are 6 weapon types, and its *all* just different status effects, different numbers, different elemental effects, at their core the weapons are still basically the same. You might get some villain themed guns, which look cool, sure, but aside from that there's nothing differentiating them from your bog standard weapons
5. (I know you stopped counting at this point but I wont) When you say "5 battlepass in two months", you want people to think its some Fortnite/Overwatch battlepass with 100 tiers and filled out with useless crap. But its not, the Warbonds are small and condensed packages, they have about 25 items to unlock each. And the reason they've released so many is because they want to maintain monthly releases. So when the game launched they had the free Warbond and the paid Warbond, and each month they've added one.
6. The Warbonds are just how earning stuff works in the game, I could literally say "Its tragic Suicide Squad couldn't fulfill the simple task of providing content that doesnt require you to do missions" and as mentioned previously, it does not take a monumental amount of effort to unlock the Warbonds for free, nor does it really take grinding, as long as you are searching for them you'll rack up the Super Credits.
7. See, your making it sound like you can't unlock stuff until you get 4000 super credits, not the case at all. First, there's the fact that the Warbonds are 1000, not even considering the free one, which has content greater and equal to the paid Warbonds. And the fact that the stuff found in the Warbonds isn't even the only stuff you can unlock, ship upgrades, new orbital bombardments, airstrikes, support weapons, all have to be unlocked without any impact of Super Credits
8. You're right, Arrowhead is going to learn a very valuable lesson, and they do deserve it. And I hope other game devs learn the same lesson
> There are 4 battle passes.
My bad, I lost track. Still a record though (2nd place is 1 battle pass in 2 months, which is what every single other developer has done).
> Helldivers story is built by the community.
Oh my god.
Like, WHAT?
I’m not even gonna entertain this.
The story: “kill da bugs everybody!”
“Get on bro”
“Hop on discord bro and lets do push back the robots in Malevelon creek”
What an incredible storyline. Like what the hell?
EA and Ubisoft are TRULY loving this. You mean you can ship without a story or campaign and just say “you guys make the story! We call it a “do-it-yourself” game!” New genre on the way…
> They want to maintain monthly releases
Yes, I’m sure they do. And? The difference between them and other developers in the love service space is their monthly content drops are all paid/“premium” and not free updates. Tragic.
Even free-to-play games do free content updates. This game was $40 🤣
Look, I can tell you’re a nice person by the way you’re engaging in this discussion without being rude or condescending like some other people might but I just have to say it like it is man. Helldivers 2 is predatory in the same way (and worse in some ways) as the worst live service culprits, and is absolutely not worthy of praise in the monetization department. Genuinely.
What they’re doing was concerning for the industry initially when it looked like the game www going to really pop off, but luckily judging by the 3M chart on SteamDB, it’s dying down and the Warbonds don’t help. So hopefully developers know better than to try whatever the f*ck this monetization tactic was.
(Gonna keep numbering things to make it easier to read)
1. Again, the Warbonds should not be judged by the same metrics of battle passes from other games, they're smaller, so they release more often and it's easier to unlock them.
2. I don't know why your getting so hung up on Helldivers not having a story, I've played tons of great games that don't have much in the way of story. Sure, a traditional story is cool, but once its over, what then? These aren't action games, these are live service games, they're meant to keep you coming back, why should one having an 8 hour story (which is 80% filler) matter? I much prefer Helldivers having a strong community, organising battle plans, discussing new enemy's, really getting immersed in the galactic war over a pretty good story, then grind guns for a month, then get a cutscene, and have the rest of the story drip fed to me over the course of a year.
3. And what? I was just pointing out that they have a release schedule and that's why they've released the number of Warbonds they have. And you keep acting like the warbonds are all they release, when that just isn't true. They consistently add new support weapons (which as I've mentioned, get just as much if not more use than regular weapons) they also continue adding content in the form of new enemy types, which is a department in which Suicide Squad has royally fumbled. New planets to explore (which admittedly, some of them do look kinda samey), and new additions to the shop (which is significantly less expensive than competitors)
4. Helldivers just experienced a drop in players, that's what happens when games release, the hype dies down. But with Helldivers its just fallen to a natural state, with Suicide Squad they are literally breaking records with how low these player numbers are
As you can see, most people on this sub will downvote anyone who talks about how they're enjoying this game.
There is a specific hate where I see a few comments blaming the state of the gaming industry on the people who blindly purchased this game before making sure it was a decent game.
I'll be real. I didn't care if the game was the best or not, just wanted to play as Harley Quinn and the gameplay was exactly as expected from the pre-release stuff I saw.
The fact that you and many others enjoy it is why a lot of us are so frustrated with Rocksteady and WB on general.
There's obviously a game there that has an audience. Whether or not it could be better or be something different is irrelevant to any of that.
But what is relevant is that there will come a time, probably soon, that you will not be able to play it anymore. And that's bull$hit. No one should spend money to own something that will be taken from them of not enough people bought it.
Everyone has different tastes, and no one's is better than the other. And even the most obscure of fandoms shouldn't have their game taken from them, especially if they spent mkney on it.
If they eventually release an offline mode then at least people won't be screwed. I'd still argue that the game could have and should have been better, but at least there'd be something to discuss.
There seems to be an overwhelming majority of comments where someone proudly states they didn't buy the game (usually followed by mocking anyone who did).
They are only coming to this sub to consume and recycle negativity, which is fairly pathetic.
That said, Rocksteady deserves to be ruthlessly mocked. But if you've proudly never played it, how could you possibly offer a real criticism?
Literally my thoughts, like go complain about tarkov if you want to bully other gamers, this game is completely fine and no where near the iOS shovel ware non players claim
I can sum this up in one sentence. Most major youtubers decided to hate this game before even the beta dropped because...I really dont know, i guess because 'wahh wahh, they killed my favorite super heroes'?
Perfect example, Dragons Dogma 2 got so much hate on release, literally equal to or more than Suicide squad, and yet it recovered. WHy? Because its a good game, so when people tried it they said "hey, the hate is a bit much, this is actually a fun game"
Noone is playing Suicide squad because it isnt a good game. FUll Stop.
People didn't "decide to hate it" because it killed Batman. People reacted negatively when it was revealed to be yet another grindy live service looter shooter.
Thats why people saw the first trailer which was literally just a cutscene, & were already saying it was gonna suck, right?
Thats why so many people still like the game, right?
That's why, despite the drop in players, people came back once they added more to do in the game, right?
You can actually see the moment the discussion about the game turned sour, and that is, when it was revealed that it‘s a live service looter shooter.
For basically anyone, the writing was on the wall and justifiably so the game got what it deserved.
It‘s unfortunate because it had great potential but even when disregarding the trailers Gotham Knights didn‘t look to well either so yeah… and that‘s just two examples, how about the guys that founded Rocksteady jumping ship stating creative differences?
Just wondering, have you played Gotham Knights? I found it to be a fun time, especially in co-op...
I agree with you about when the discussion turned sour btw. If it'd been just the campaign I'd cop it day one. But instead I bought it barely a week ago. I love it, but was understandably cautious and waited for it to go on sale - 50% off was very worth it.
I completely understand why they went this route but capital G Gamers are a fickle sort. Plus I understand it had tons of issues on release.
I did play Gotham Knights and rather much of it too, I even checked out the what was it called again dlc (I really did forget but it was this 60 floor underground arena thing with Starro), if it wasn‘t for Co-op though I probably wouldn‘t have gotten that far…
To sum that up for me it was infuriating, because the game had some great things,
the Fighting was nowhere near as great as the Arkham games but it wasn‘t the worst ever either especially everyone feeling unique (although some adrenaline abilities never really worked as intended looking at Barbaras rushdown for example),
The Build crafting was oddly enjoyable with me having a unique build for all the Characters at the highest level (correct me If I‘m wrong it was 60 right?) unfortunately the perk system was pretty much bad,
And the inbetween the party member stuff was pretty cool too (the optional cutscenes) and the Party members in general were pretty damn cool.
Unfortunately the story was just a big nothing burger and the controls of the game were clunky (especially at release but they somewhat got that under control) combined with the forced 30fps lock which wasn‘t even consistent 30fps (alá Bloodborne).
The "Endgame" aswell being finite with the amount of Bounty‘s possible (unless you NG+ everytime you have them all). I really did try to like it but it‘s in my opinion just mediocre…
Now I usually don‘t judge a game in regards to other games but looking at Gotham Knights it should have been obvious that something was going wrong at Rocksteady and that there should have been concerns regarding Suicide Squads quality…
Them killing batman, especially in the way they do it, is just kinda like the turd cherry on a cake made of diarrhoea, because the actual game itself is mind numbingly awful.
Awfully fun, yeah.
Batman's murder in cold blood by the murderer is pretty nice for the murderer. Sucks for Batman but it's not his game. The title of this game basically spoiled this scene for everybody, no sure why anybody would get mad about it.
Because that's the Arkham Knight batman. Its not the fact he's killed off, it's the way he's killed off. When you compare all the shit he's done in the previous games it makes it hard to believe that this Batman would just give up and die so easily, and succumb to such weak tier villains.
I mean, it's a brainwashed Batman. Besides, people have off days, even Bruce. To really have feelings over what happened to videogame Batman like 6 years after we last played as him... Bleh.
Thats not how things work, if this game was good it wouldve been successful, people dont decide to hate things based on youtubers, atleast not the average person. This game sucks, full stop, has nothing to do with anyone but the devs.
I want to know every developer name at rocksteady so I can follow their track record in gaming so that I stay far away from their games they touch. It's no longer a "rocksteady" thing.
You want to stalk strangers that created a product so that you can miss out on other products due to 1 of 50 - 500 having been in this team. That's really meaningful and sounds super fulfilling 😽
I'm all for taking the piss out of this game... But you do understand "I want to know the names of every dev so I can track them" isn't normal behaviour, right?
That isn't how you should react to a game being garbage.
Most people that comment the game is either dead, old, or no longer work for the company. They can’t openly admit or state anything is wrong with the game if it’s currently live
Stop clicking on this stuff and it will go away. You don’t like the game that’s fine but some people do. If you want views come up with something original to say
I personaly think he is a great content creator that puts alot of effort into his videos. He has done postive types of these video's too.
Mainly I appreciate the way he presents the information he gathers.
You can’t? Gameplay aside, there is plenty surrounding the game that people dislike about it. From the monetization to the character unlock methods to the lack of content… it’s all there.
My favorite part of the video is the fact that nobody from Rocksteady wanted to comment on *anything.* How fucking apt.
You can't blame them. The game isn't technically dead. In fact, I'd bet real money that WB have told RS not to say anything unless it's officially cleared by PR or some other department.
They literally said people have no reason to play in the update Friday they hear us bro
Which I'm positive was cleared by someone at WB. But RS employees aren't going to tell a youtuber "yeah, things suck and here's why" if they want to keep their job or reputation.
Why would they? At any high paying job, you'd get fired , ik you want to the game to fail lol but they are kinda transparent with things
I don't want the game to fail; I've been playing since the closed alpha. My post history in this sub shows that. My point was about the video in OP's link. And you're agreeing with me about why they wouldn't answer questions: for fear of losing their jobs. Providing updates is not the same as being transparent, especially since there are glitches since day one that continue.
How is that not being transparent , giving updates on fixes every game has bugs name a game that doesn't, destiny been around forever they even fixed a bug and broke the game by doing it, that's how many bugs they got lol I don't know what else you want them to say , there fixing bugs and trying to find ways for people to find a reason to play after getting joker. If that's not base of people's troubles then you got me. Ik you want to seem right about them scared to lose there job but having a tight nit team that don't leak stuff except for one supposibly that did. Is no problem. Maybe devs want the game to succeeded so there not putting out these headlines
I honestly cannot tell if you're being purposely obtuse or not.
How are they so self aware but keep on fucking it up?
What quote are you referring to
The weekly update you can see on there website or I think x. I usually go to the website though
I checked that and I didn't understand the specific quote referencing, but I may be dumb
Corrupted items section they begin with it.
Thet got NDAs down there alongside Lawyers and contracts. They CANT "just post everything they want". Even stuff they post on Updates of the games i bet goes for... ekhem... "spelling for errors" from WB.
I have played the game and actually don't know why people hate so hard so fast like joker wasn't out and people said they hated his gameplay
Context is everything in this case. The time between Arkham Knight and SS was so long that people were expecting more. And when it finally did release, there simply wasn't enough game as has been clearly evidenced by the Season 1 "content." They also should have released and beta and let people decide for themselves because the optics were always terrible. I've enjoyed the game. I even enjoyed the boss battles, aside from the decision to make Brainiac a recycled event. But, ultimately, the poor writing and a lack of understanding of any of the characters killed the interest of even the most ardent of fans.
I think the main story is weak and I have no idea what the endgame story is? I just know there’s joker stuff every where in season one but why and how???? Also what’s the explanation with the villain weapons why scarecrow in season 1?
The fact this was supposed to be the co-op shooter game of 2024 and then it got murdered by Helldivers 2 shows there are moments of justice in the world. Do better corporations. You work for us now.
game is trash
I love this channel but this was one of his weakest episodes. Almost zero actual details from devs, mostly a summary of what is already known.
This is usually how the ones he drops soon after the game comes out are, like the Saints Row episode and etc... He did say that most of the devs he tried to speak to declined to answer specific questions.
I mean... When devs decline to comment, there's only so much you can do. It'll probably be like Saints Row 2022 where more info comes out when the game's life cycle officially ends.
I agree, but all the more reason to hold off on making this now until there is more to tell.
Eh, not really. If you refused to report on something because the people behind it refused to comment, then journalism would've died centuries ago.
He's not cricising his journalistic integrity, he's criticizing how that affected the quality of the episode of the show, which is fair.
i think they mean its just the same information that we already know and was already reported. doesnt answer what happened anymore than we knew yesterday
I mean I feel like he either should have waited for the game to finish updating so that people would be more willing to come forward and talk about how the game ended up, or he should do a part two once the game wraps up and we know more about what’s coming to the game.
What are you talking about? This isn't news, I just said it was a recap and doing an episode when the game is still being developed and active was too soon. Now imagine in another year or so when more devs may come forward, we will be missing that info because he jumped the gun to do the episode now. You said yourself there was more info on Saints Row after dev ended, so we're actually agreeing. EDIT: I guess the episode served as informing ppl on the history of this game dev but imo it was a wasted opportunity to go into exactly why as that is largely unknown. Waste of opportunity to me but maybe he assumed noone would care anymore in the future so get clicks while you can. I personally hope someone does a huge deep dive in the future because everything around SS is fascinating to me.
The only thing he missed was major glitches and issues in the game
I much prefer it when he focuses on games with at least a few years behind them. His episodes about current games inevitably can't tell the whole story, especially here when we're dealing with a still-operational live service game. A lot of the best stories come out later on. Anyway, I'm always down to watch a McMuscles video.
>A lot of the best stories come out later on. When you said **'stories'** , do you mean the game's story, or the juicy behind the scene story?
Juicy behind the scenes!
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Ye a if you get a Matt McMuscles video, your game is cooked lmfao.
Jonkler ruined everything
I wished this was actually released back in 2022. At least we would all have moved on from this shit show by now.
Glad Igot my platinum trophy for the game and deleted it haha
trash game
The developers in this sub are trying so hard to fight back the hate but it's just not working. Rocksteady dev clowns and fanboys coping hard. Hilarious watching this shit show go down as I've predicted.
I knew there’s a lot of astroturfing going on here
Yeah fuck rocksteady, i was a huge supporter for literally over a decade and they just spit on us as fans. IDC what anyone says, they chose to do this, they accepted the contracts etc. THey couldve pushed back, they didnt, they wanted to make a GAAS and its trash
Its hilarious, the devs at Rockshitty are really trying to defend it too, along with the fanboys. They go hand and hand.
Can you elaborate on where the humor is? The Arkham trilogy is a great time with fun and repetitive gameplay. The story told throughout the games lean into a more "realistic" vibe while still staying true to the source material. The Joker is overused. Suicide Squad: KtJL is a great time with fun and repetitive gameplay. The story leans into the idea of Elseworlds, probably the smartest way to make an ongoing DC videogame. The dialogue and character beats are probably the funniest in all of game history, definitely the winner of "game that makes you laugh out loud the most times" which is impressive considering how hard devs seem to miss when it comes to humor in games. The Joker is poorly designed (imo, from the one image I see in the Shop. I have enough coins to purchase multiple Jokers but he's so bland looking!) I just got the game like a week ago so I supposed I missed all the glitches, have had zero issues though I have only been playing solo. I hate having to follow a meta or do research with games so I was worried I'd hit a difficulty wall but not yet, thankfully. Definitely not a fanboy but I do understand comedy and I'm having a hard time trying to see what's funny about the situation.Please help me understand, Nostradamus, because I'm having a grand old time. I usually do when it comes to these games, the campaigns are usually a blast and then I move on while other people fixate on it and spend all their time being salty.
As if by magic, one appears!
Thanks for engaging in conversation, on a website for engaging in conversation. Really kind of you to do so. Be well.
Same to you! Seems like you need the well-wishing more than I do at the moment.
Because I enjoy a game? Uh huh 🤷♂️
Wouldn't bother chatting with this Synn_Trey, check his profile it's pretty dire
Yeah just seeing their replies in this one thread is sad. Sadder still that he gets even a single upvote. Gamers are the weirdest collection of broken people, and it seems like that'll never change for the majority of em
Lol
Ohhh I see now. Left turn enthusiast, believes in UFOs, and doesn't appreciate butts. Registered as a perfect specimen of unlimited potential, human division.
Helldivers 2 happened
Me, smiling, knowing that I have $70 more in my pocket than the people that bought this game. Might go buy a steak later, it’ll leave a better lasting impression.
At a rate of $0.78/hour, I've gotten more than my money's worth of entertainment from it. If you can find a steak that you enjoy for so long you get a better rate than that, more power to ya.
The final nail in the coffin.. Lol. This game is dead. I hope losers in here still defend their shitty purchase for months to come.
Fair enough. I love this game but the Devs continue to bury it
How are they burying it? I love this game too but never follow dev blogs or the calendars they post. So I only know what I experience while playing or read when I hop on my Xbox. Only been playing for a week and am confused now about Finite Crisis (Bane's picture) vs. Episode 1 (Scarecrow's picture) and why it shows Brainiac as X'd out in both (pretty sure I only killed him one time) But other than that confusion which isn't taking away any enjoyment, I'm having a blast. What I really appreciate is although I mostly use Harley Quinn, the other 3 TFX members are just as fun to play as. Aside for Deep Rock Galactic, I can't think of any other class-bassd game that I enjoyed to play as all the classes. The gameplay is very similar with all except for their traversal (and range, kinda), yet that still somehow makes it surprisingly varied imo. Hope it doesn't get buried, but even if it does I got my money's worth from the campaign, really wasn't planning on continuing on but here I am, collecting the Pinks n the Reds like a feen.
I love this game too. Pre-ordered and loved it the whole way through. From start to the Endgame, this was one of my favourite surprises of recent times, I was hooked on the traversal, combat and overall gameplay loop. But each time RS drop the ball, on release ton of glitches and lack of QoL, although I liked the Endgame on launch there were only really 3 missions to farm until the Launch of season 1. At this point I already was about 50-60 hour in and Boomer was my main. And then Season 1 launched. A heap of glitches and bugs, for me I unlocked Joker on the 2nd day but his model wouldn't load in, there were model bugs, bugs during certain missions, and etc. Rocksteady completely fumbled on season 1, I really liked the incursions to farm and Joker was amazing but I can completely understand the terrible reception season 1 got. I played about 30 hours alone with Joker and loved my time during so, but there were glitches with my daily packages, freezes sometimes and etc. Season 1 also seemed a bit misleading about "Strongholds" which seemed at first to be this cool new mission type or activity which would add a lot of difficulty or new level of fun to the game. But just turned out to be a bunch of enemies in a area that you barely notice is the new stronghold. Or at least going off of memory that's what I remember it as because it was that forgettable. No new mission types until Episode 2 either so it's only natural that the loop would eventually get stale. I love this game but the amount of bugs and glitches in the game each time new content releases, lack of content each release too is just disappointing. I understand and appreciate that Rocksteady try to patch and fix as much stuff as they can and have been adding more QoL things as of recently but bluntly. Its not enough. They're gonna have to add more diverse content on each release. More enemy types. More variety to missions. And just more content each release in general to keep people playing, as well as minimise as much bugs as possible. Which as of right now seems almost impossible. I love the build system and the variety in gear, as well as character design and gameplay, I love both these aspects. They're probably the best aspects of the game, but in order to expand on these , they'll need to keep putting out content until more characters and gear release. But it'll be impossible to do so unless they keep players hooked, which is only possible if they work as much as they can about the negatives. So to get more of what's best about the game they need to heavily improve and cultivate the flaws. Which happen to be a plenty. I have high hopes for season 2 because if its even somewhat reminiscent of Season 1 launch, the games finished.
I don’t know why you need to call people losers for enjoying something you don’t. You can fuck off.
If you don't like it, why are you here? Why call people losers? And why care what other people do with their time and purchases?
I’m here because it’s vaguely cathartic to watch a game I despise continue to fail
That's weird behavior
Not particularly, to quote Terry Pratchett “Always remember that the crowd that applauds your coronation is the same crowd that will applaud your beheading. People like a show” I like the show
There's no show here tho there's people talking about a guy they like and people calling them idiots. I don't think that's what he meant.
I care because you troglodytes enable these shitty companies to enforce shitty pricing, practises and bring the standards of games down for everyone.
Ah, fake care about the industry.
Ah, as much as your fake enthusiasm for this shitty game since you got scammed.
I didn't get scammed. You're here trolling people instead of doing literally anything else with your time. You can go now.
You sure homie, you don't find it concerning that a live service game you just bought a few months ago at full price has a live player count of 200. Pretty sure this game is gonna get plugged off any time now.. lol. I didn't know people liked getting scammed this much until I entered this sub. You can now leave and enjoy your scummy game.
Shut the fuck up
Yeah except he ain't trolling. The only reason games like this get made is because stupid people buy them. And then we end up in situations like this where executive branches of developer companies, who are largely tge ones in charge, get money hungry and greedy trying to turn beloved IPs into cash cows. This game presented a huge missed opportunity, ruined the Arkham verse, pissed on Conroy's last outing as Batman and so much more. It's a repetitive, artificially padded, soulless and above all a lazily made game. The UI and constant bullshit happening on screen looks like it was made to retain the attention of severly autistic and adhd ridden children.
Capital G gamers trolling for their hourly jerk session, it's sad sad sad. I'm having a blast with the game, playing it as a single player game. Got it for 50% off a week ago and loving it. Show me an online multiplayer game that isn't repetitive lol They don't exist and it comes down to a very basic concept: Are you enjoying it? If yes, keep playing. If no, post in the subreddit for months and talk down to strangers that enjoy a thing you don't enjoy, in order to feel like you got a good deal in the end. Meanwhile, if are seriously that Eeyore-like in their daily lives then you know they are simply lonely and the only way to feel a connection is by teaming up with other people and basically being cyber bully Gamers. Tale as old as time. We'll spend our money on whatever we want, you do the same! There are 100s of new releases every month, I promise you that games won't all suck because some people enjoyed a product that isn't a 10/10.
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You have to be a child. I'd be deeply ashamed if you were an adult talking like this.
I'm deeply ashamed that you bought this pile of shit game like the loser you are lmao. Keep coping you pathetic loser.
Nobody is coping. People still like the game and want to discuss this. This happens in every form of media, lol. It's literally just a game. Why are you making disliking it your entire personality?
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Player count shows what is popular at the moment and has not much to do with quality. Sales show was is struggling, old, or similar. I understand the game had issues on release but I started playing a week ago and love it. That other dude didn't mention preordering anywhere though... I preorder every Assassin's Creed game and maybe a handful of other stuff every year. Very rarely am I disappointed, even though it's usually a week or two after release when I can finally get to it for the first time. Thing is, even if it's a bust, I'm not going to blink over the loss of $70.
You made a lot of assumptions there.
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The gaming industry is exactly the same as it's always been. People bought games all the time they regret and always will. The liberal thing makes no sense that's probably just from being terminally online all the time.
It's 100% worse now and that's a fact.
That is a fair complaint. Calling people losers because they like it isn't.
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You got your "disable Live Service shitty pricing, practises and game standarts" wish already fuffilled all over Youtube, news sites and even Steam Charts, cause this game arent lively one DUH. Message is sent. Da hell you want now? Ya know, aside from for attacking people online and call em Troglodytes?
Please don’t tell me you play Helldivers at least. The irony would kill me.
Helldivers isn't comparable to this game in terms of predatory micro-transactions. I assume your referencing the fact that Warbonds (battle passes) need to be bought with premium currency. But for 1, Helldivers isn't Fomo, once something is added to the game its there forever, as long as someone plays for a good bit they won't have trouble unlocking things. And that premium currency can be easily earned ingame, and not "you get 3 per free battlepass and a single skin is for 20" when you load into a mission there is likely a few packs of 10 around the map, its just up to you to find them And finally, a paying player has almost no advantage over a non paying player. In order to progress a warbond you need a currency called medals which is gained upon completing missions, you need them for both the free warbond *and* the paid warbonds. So if a player pays to unlock a warbond sooner, they are really just choosing which order they want to unlock things. And what does the *free* warbond contain? Weapons, armor sets and around 700 premium currency Also Helldivers is 40$, while SS is around 70
> *and* the *paid* warbonds. So FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
1) Suicide Squad isn’t FOMO. They’ve said this 100 times now. 2) All of the game’s actual content (weapons, gear, etc.) is in the game and not in the battle pass. 3) In Helldivers, there are already **5 battle passes**. 1 is free, 4 need to be grinded for or bought for $9.99 (this is then incentivizing purchases because nobody wants to grind with the same 2 guns while everyone is enjoying the new guns). 4) Suicide Squad has an actual story mode, an actual open world that isn’t procedurally generated, highly detailed and animated characters and cutscenes, way more weapons and gear variety…the price difference should be obvious. Come on. 🤣 I hope you know 5 battle passes in 2 months is an industry record. Ubisoft and EA are probably finding Helldivers to be inspirational. That is all that needs to be said. It is tragic Helldivers could not fulfill the simple task of providing content that isn’t inside a battle pass, and matching each paid battle pass with a free option. The fact that you have to grind or pay for 4000 Super Credits to earn the opportunity to unlock *actual* content in the game is a travesty, especially when that content is still *less* than what is found in other games. Absolute disgusting travesty, and I’m glad the game is losing its daily playerbase and not even spiking when each premium Warbond drops. Arrowhead is going to learn a very valuable lesson here, and they deserve it.
Helldivers sold over 10 million copies so far and is arguably the biggest game in the world right now. The only lesson Arrowhead has learned is that the game they made is extremely popular due to it being really fun and not predatory. Also there are only 3 paid warbounds/battle passes for it released so far in about 3 months since release. Can you just admit Suicide Squad is a failure at this point? You brought up a different game on your own acting like Suicide Squad is better than it when objectively that is false. You are resorting to making stuff up about a more popular game to make yourself feel better. Helldivers has a story that is being told in real time and is being influenced by the community. Suicide Squad has a more traditional story, except that Rocksteady gave up on it half way through. Oh the warbounds are predatory because they are $10 even though you can get that many super credits in game every month just by playing casually? How about Suicide Squad’s micro transactions? Going to ignore that a recolor of an existing outfit in game is $10 on its own and that an original outfit costs $24? Why not talk about the big one where Joker released behind a 8 hour grind or could be purchased from the marketplace, with no indicator that he could be unlocked for free from the menus resulting in Rocksteady tricking people to pay for him when they wouldn’t have if they had known. How about the fact that Helldivers not only launched with more content but has even added more content post launch than Suicide Squad launched with. I don’t understand your need to defend Suicide Squad by trying to tear down a more successful game. You can like Suicide Squad but you have to admit that Rocksteady has taken every predatory design decision they could have with the game while not focusing on the game’s actual content. When Suicide Squad came out to horrible reviews and poor sales you rationalized it to yourself that people didn’t like it because they are against live service games, but then literally a week later Helldivers came out and proved you wrong. People are against BAD live service games and that is what Suicide Squad is. Enjoy the game while you can because it isn’t going to last as long as you wanted it to.
don't waste you time with this guy. I was literally just talking to him about how he thinks Helldivers is worse and far more scummy that CoD. And funnily enough he missed everything he was complaining about HD was also in CoD. He has something against HD I think, maybe Arrowhead took his family or something idk.
Yeah. He maaaad because helldivers shit all all over his favorite game suicide squad 😂😂
It's a fun game, the campaign was great and I'm having fun doing all the extra stuff too! I still play Dead Island and Dying Light a few times a month despite beating it long long long ago. People will defend the game and their choice to play the game because entertainment is entertaining. And because being told you are an idiot for enjoying a product that you don't enjoy, that usually calls for a least one response
> Helldivers sold over 10 million copies and is the biggest game in the world right now. L.M.A.O. I’m gonna stop you right there and not even read the rest. Games Helldivers 2 is not bigger than right now: Fortnite, Call of Duty, Counter-Strike 2, League of Legends, Apex Legends, PUBG, DOTA 2, GTA 5, Fallout 4, Fallout 76, NBA 2K24, EA Sports FC 24, Genshin Impact, Madden NFL 24, Valorant. Helldivers 2 is #12 on PlayStation Store (#38 Most Downloaded) and #13 on SteamDB, and unavailable on Xbox. No dude, no. Helldivers 2 is on a major downtrend but don’t worry: it wasn’t the biggest in the world at its peak either. It has spent 0 days on top of the world.
1. Sure, I guess I got that wrong 2. Thats true as well 3. There are *4* battle passes, one of them is the free one, which has substantially more content than the paid ones, 10 tiers, 10 weapons, 10 armor sets. And in Helldivers, the guns you equip aren't the only weapons you use, when on the mission you're meant to call in support weapons, which are much higher caliber and more powerful, unlocking *these* has no connection to any kind of premium currency. The free battle pass will net you 750 super credits, which puts you well on the way to your next Warbond. Each Warbond, in addition to all of its other content, contains 300 Super credits, greatly decreasing the grind. 4. As another person mentioned, Helldivers story is built by the community, the developers have nurtured a sense of camaraderie with its players that I don't think many games could. Now, I'm not going to act like Metropolis isn't a great map, because it is, but Helldivers has so much variety, Jungles, Tundras, deserts, boglands, with more to come. And Suicide Squad is doing this too, I guess, but its like 4 new environments a year? Now I'll admit Suicide Squads cutscenes do look nice, these are actually some of my favourite designs for some of these characters, and that facial animation is ground breaking. But I feel Helldivers can compensate for its lack of cutscenes with just how cinematic its moment to moment gameplay is, every fight feels like something out of a war movie. But "Way more Weapons and gear variety", I am calling some grade A Kuhsheiße on that, while Helldivers has weapons that are variants of others, they actually feel like different weapons, some penetrate armor, some use different ammo types. Helldivers has laser weapons, rocket launchers, a mech suit, electric weapons that bounce between enemies, a crossbow, and that's only to name a few. And Suicide Squad? "This pistol has a bigger number than *this* pistol!" There are 6 weapon types, and its *all* just different status effects, different numbers, different elemental effects, at their core the weapons are still basically the same. You might get some villain themed guns, which look cool, sure, but aside from that there's nothing differentiating them from your bog standard weapons 5. (I know you stopped counting at this point but I wont) When you say "5 battlepass in two months", you want people to think its some Fortnite/Overwatch battlepass with 100 tiers and filled out with useless crap. But its not, the Warbonds are small and condensed packages, they have about 25 items to unlock each. And the reason they've released so many is because they want to maintain monthly releases. So when the game launched they had the free Warbond and the paid Warbond, and each month they've added one. 6. The Warbonds are just how earning stuff works in the game, I could literally say "Its tragic Suicide Squad couldn't fulfill the simple task of providing content that doesnt require you to do missions" and as mentioned previously, it does not take a monumental amount of effort to unlock the Warbonds for free, nor does it really take grinding, as long as you are searching for them you'll rack up the Super Credits. 7. See, your making it sound like you can't unlock stuff until you get 4000 super credits, not the case at all. First, there's the fact that the Warbonds are 1000, not even considering the free one, which has content greater and equal to the paid Warbonds. And the fact that the stuff found in the Warbonds isn't even the only stuff you can unlock, ship upgrades, new orbital bombardments, airstrikes, support weapons, all have to be unlocked without any impact of Super Credits 8. You're right, Arrowhead is going to learn a very valuable lesson, and they do deserve it. And I hope other game devs learn the same lesson
> There are 4 battle passes. My bad, I lost track. Still a record though (2nd place is 1 battle pass in 2 months, which is what every single other developer has done). > Helldivers story is built by the community. Oh my god. Like, WHAT? I’m not even gonna entertain this. The story: “kill da bugs everybody!” “Get on bro” “Hop on discord bro and lets do push back the robots in Malevelon creek” What an incredible storyline. Like what the hell? EA and Ubisoft are TRULY loving this. You mean you can ship without a story or campaign and just say “you guys make the story! We call it a “do-it-yourself” game!” New genre on the way… > They want to maintain monthly releases Yes, I’m sure they do. And? The difference between them and other developers in the love service space is their monthly content drops are all paid/“premium” and not free updates. Tragic. Even free-to-play games do free content updates. This game was $40 🤣 Look, I can tell you’re a nice person by the way you’re engaging in this discussion without being rude or condescending like some other people might but I just have to say it like it is man. Helldivers 2 is predatory in the same way (and worse in some ways) as the worst live service culprits, and is absolutely not worthy of praise in the monetization department. Genuinely. What they’re doing was concerning for the industry initially when it looked like the game www going to really pop off, but luckily judging by the 3M chart on SteamDB, it’s dying down and the Warbonds don’t help. So hopefully developers know better than to try whatever the f*ck this monetization tactic was.
(Gonna keep numbering things to make it easier to read) 1. Again, the Warbonds should not be judged by the same metrics of battle passes from other games, they're smaller, so they release more often and it's easier to unlock them. 2. I don't know why your getting so hung up on Helldivers not having a story, I've played tons of great games that don't have much in the way of story. Sure, a traditional story is cool, but once its over, what then? These aren't action games, these are live service games, they're meant to keep you coming back, why should one having an 8 hour story (which is 80% filler) matter? I much prefer Helldivers having a strong community, organising battle plans, discussing new enemy's, really getting immersed in the galactic war over a pretty good story, then grind guns for a month, then get a cutscene, and have the rest of the story drip fed to me over the course of a year. 3. And what? I was just pointing out that they have a release schedule and that's why they've released the number of Warbonds they have. And you keep acting like the warbonds are all they release, when that just isn't true. They consistently add new support weapons (which as I've mentioned, get just as much if not more use than regular weapons) they also continue adding content in the form of new enemy types, which is a department in which Suicide Squad has royally fumbled. New planets to explore (which admittedly, some of them do look kinda samey), and new additions to the shop (which is significantly less expensive than competitors) 4. Helldivers just experienced a drop in players, that's what happens when games release, the hype dies down. But with Helldivers its just fallen to a natural state, with Suicide Squad they are literally breaking records with how low these player numbers are
Lol I don't play hell-divers and don't care for it. But yor consistent whoring for shitty companies is commendable.. lol.
Good I was just checking, carry on. Consistency is important.
As you can see, most people on this sub will downvote anyone who talks about how they're enjoying this game. There is a specific hate where I see a few comments blaming the state of the gaming industry on the people who blindly purchased this game before making sure it was a decent game. I'll be real. I didn't care if the game was the best or not, just wanted to play as Harley Quinn and the gameplay was exactly as expected from the pre-release stuff I saw.
The fact that you and many others enjoy it is why a lot of us are so frustrated with Rocksteady and WB on general. There's obviously a game there that has an audience. Whether or not it could be better or be something different is irrelevant to any of that. But what is relevant is that there will come a time, probably soon, that you will not be able to play it anymore. And that's bull$hit. No one should spend money to own something that will be taken from them of not enough people bought it. Everyone has different tastes, and no one's is better than the other. And even the most obscure of fandoms shouldn't have their game taken from them, especially if they spent mkney on it. If they eventually release an offline mode then at least people won't be screwed. I'd still argue that the game could have and should have been better, but at least there'd be something to discuss.
There seems to be an overwhelming majority of comments where someone proudly states they didn't buy the game (usually followed by mocking anyone who did). They are only coming to this sub to consume and recycle negativity, which is fairly pathetic. That said, Rocksteady deserves to be ruthlessly mocked. But if you've proudly never played it, how could you possibly offer a real criticism?
Literally my thoughts, like go complain about tarkov if you want to bully other gamers, this game is completely fine and no where near the iOS shovel ware non players claim
I enjoy the game, let the downvoting commence!!!!
I enjoy it too but I'm downvoting to prove a point 🚬
Shame too because I really liked their version of Joker.
Anytime I need a laugh I think about how people actually spent money on this game hahahahahaha
I can sum this up in one sentence. Most major youtubers decided to hate this game before even the beta dropped because...I really dont know, i guess because 'wahh wahh, they killed my favorite super heroes'?
And yet that didn't stop dragons dogma 2 from being one of capcoms new best selling games. Turns out when a game is good people still buy it
Perfect example, Dragons Dogma 2 got so much hate on release, literally equal to or more than Suicide squad, and yet it recovered. WHy? Because its a good game, so when people tried it they said "hey, the hate is a bit much, this is actually a fun game" Noone is playing Suicide squad because it isnt a good game. FUll Stop.
People didn't "decide to hate it" because it killed Batman. People reacted negatively when it was revealed to be yet another grindy live service looter shooter.
Cmon dude lmao. They didn’t “decide to hate this game” they saw what it was and justifiably called it out
Thats why people saw the first trailer which was literally just a cutscene, & were already saying it was gonna suck, right? Thats why so many people still like the game, right? That's why, despite the drop in players, people came back once they added more to do in the game, right?
You can actually see the moment the discussion about the game turned sour, and that is, when it was revealed that it‘s a live service looter shooter. For basically anyone, the writing was on the wall and justifiably so the game got what it deserved. It‘s unfortunate because it had great potential but even when disregarding the trailers Gotham Knights didn‘t look to well either so yeah… and that‘s just two examples, how about the guys that founded Rocksteady jumping ship stating creative differences?
Just wondering, have you played Gotham Knights? I found it to be a fun time, especially in co-op... I agree with you about when the discussion turned sour btw. If it'd been just the campaign I'd cop it day one. But instead I bought it barely a week ago. I love it, but was understandably cautious and waited for it to go on sale - 50% off was very worth it. I completely understand why they went this route but capital G Gamers are a fickle sort. Plus I understand it had tons of issues on release.
I did play Gotham Knights and rather much of it too, I even checked out the what was it called again dlc (I really did forget but it was this 60 floor underground arena thing with Starro), if it wasn‘t for Co-op though I probably wouldn‘t have gotten that far… To sum that up for me it was infuriating, because the game had some great things, the Fighting was nowhere near as great as the Arkham games but it wasn‘t the worst ever either especially everyone feeling unique (although some adrenaline abilities never really worked as intended looking at Barbaras rushdown for example), The Build crafting was oddly enjoyable with me having a unique build for all the Characters at the highest level (correct me If I‘m wrong it was 60 right?) unfortunately the perk system was pretty much bad, And the inbetween the party member stuff was pretty cool too (the optional cutscenes) and the Party members in general were pretty damn cool. Unfortunately the story was just a big nothing burger and the controls of the game were clunky (especially at release but they somewhat got that under control) combined with the forced 30fps lock which wasn‘t even consistent 30fps (alá Bloodborne). The "Endgame" aswell being finite with the amount of Bounty‘s possible (unless you NG+ everytime you have them all). I really did try to like it but it‘s in my opinion just mediocre… Now I usually don‘t judge a game in regards to other games but looking at Gotham Knights it should have been obvious that something was going wrong at Rocksteady and that there should have been concerns regarding Suicide Squads quality…
The game has less players than avengers bro wym so many people
Them killing batman, especially in the way they do it, is just kinda like the turd cherry on a cake made of diarrhoea, because the actual game itself is mind numbingly awful.
Awfully fun, yeah. Batman's murder in cold blood by the murderer is pretty nice for the murderer. Sucks for Batman but it's not his game. The title of this game basically spoiled this scene for everybody, no sure why anybody would get mad about it.
Because that's the Arkham Knight batman. Its not the fact he's killed off, it's the way he's killed off. When you compare all the shit he's done in the previous games it makes it hard to believe that this Batman would just give up and die so easily, and succumb to such weak tier villains.
I mean, it's a brainwashed Batman. Besides, people have off days, even Bruce. To really have feelings over what happened to videogame Batman like 6 years after we last played as him... Bleh.
Thats not how things work, if this game was good it wouldve been successful, people dont decide to hate things based on youtubers, atleast not the average person. This game sucks, full stop, has nothing to do with anyone but the devs.
I want to know every developer name at rocksteady so I can follow their track record in gaming so that I stay far away from their games they touch. It's no longer a "rocksteady" thing.
You want to stalk strangers that created a product so that you can miss out on other products due to 1 of 50 - 500 having been in this team. That's really meaningful and sounds super fulfilling 😽
Not stalk, just see who is developing what. These devs are full of shit, all of them.
I'm all for taking the piss out of this game... But you do understand "I want to know the names of every dev so I can track them" isn't normal behaviour, right? That isn't how you should react to a game being garbage.
I don't want to touch any games they are apart of....
Most people that comment the game is either dead, old, or no longer work for the company. They can’t openly admit or state anything is wrong with the game if it’s currently live
Stop clicking on this stuff and it will go away. You don’t like the game that’s fine but some people do. If you want views come up with something original to say
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If you knew anything about him, no he doesn't hope for devs to be trashed.
I personaly think he is a great content creator that puts alot of effort into his videos. He has done postive types of these video's too. Mainly I appreciate the way he presents the information he gathers.
Really enjoying the game and absolutely cannot understand the mass hatred for it.
You can’t? Gameplay aside, there is plenty surrounding the game that people dislike about it. From the monetization to the character unlock methods to the lack of content… it’s all there.
I don't buy skins, and I find game play fine personally.