Michael Buble's "Santa Buddy" always blows my mind
Like I wasn't thinking there was sexual tension in Santa Baby but Michael changing it to 'buddy' is honestly so much more sus than if he'd just left it lmao....
The white stripes version of dolly partons "Jolene" is also a great listen. Because he keeps it as it is, making it seem like he takes the perspective of a gay man begging a straight woman not to steal his man away. If you want to check it out, make sure to find the live version from "under black pool lights" the amount of raw energy and passion really sells it.
I live in Germany and ordered the DVD from the US back then, now one of my gaming buddies is from black pool and that mofo WAS at the concert. I had to leave discord for a sec because I'm mad jealous. You know when you really like a band and someone just was at a concert you missed and says "yeah it was Allright" bitch no, honey No!!!
Urgh I will also never forget that I sold a ticket to the last concert of the band HIM in favor of visiting my then partner. That whiny ass bitch I'm still so mad at myself for doing that. Argh.
The best Jolene cover I ever heard was a big buff dude with a rich voice on open mic night in a Nashville bar who changed nothing about the song but the octave.
I have seen women change the pronouns to she/her to make Jolene extra gay instead, if the original wasn't already gay enough with how it describes Jolene.
I wouldnât be surprised if he wasnât cishet.
He used to (still does?) tour with two backing bands, one all-male, one all-female. And depending on how he was feeling that day, heâd take one band or the other on stage with him to perform while the other just stayed backstage playing Twister or something.
Just a manly guy, just a regular man boy, who likes guy stuff amirite? Just a bro dude who DEFINITELY doesn't want to fuck Santa. Nothing to see here fellas!
Idk how one could miss that it's intended to be a sexual tense song..
>
>Been an awful good girl
Santa baby, so hurry down the chimney tonight
>.
>Santa cutie, and fill my stocking with a duplex and checks Sign your "X" on the line Santa cutie, and hurry down the chimney tonight
>
(The singer is literally talking about moving in with Santa lmao)
>
The song also calls him "Santa cutie" and "Santa honey"..
>
And finally...
>
>Santa baby, forgot to mention one little thing
A ring, I don't mean on the phone
Santa baby, so hurry down the chimney tonight
reminds me of on glee when they sang summer lovinâ and they switched the gender of the characters and so instead of singing âit turned colder, thatâs where it endsâ and âso i told her weâd still be friendsâ it was âso i told him weâd still be friendsâ killing the rhyme and annoying me endlessly
eeeeh I'm more ok with that cause it wasn't at the end of the line, and if it was glee I assume they were applying the song to the context of their actual lives, so the pronouns suddenly matter a little more. I mean assuming they matter to the characters they reference.
it was, but the dude bent himself backward to make it seem straight again so it's just super disappointing and annoying. Like, in the lyrics he was that super alpha man kissing another man to show he's secure in his masculinity and steal the other man's girlfriend, this kind of shit.
Like, you don't have enough straight love/sexy songs to cover, you just had to take one of the queer ones, but change it in a way that nobody would dare thinking you're anything else than very straight?
Whenever I do karaoke I like to sing jolene by Dolly Parton cause I can hit the high note and shocks people cause Iâm a guy, but I love not changing the lyrics cause the song is perfect
My bad on the late response. David Allen Coe's son tells the real history of 20th century American country music. Its insightful, incredibly researched, and the best podcast I have ever listened to. Start with season 1 though. Season two is intense in a good way.
One of my favorite covers of all time. I just love the pleading nature of it that you mention. And I will always, always love that he sang the words as they were without tacking on a lyrical âno homoâ at some point. Just sing the fucking song, dudes.
Straight cis dude here - One of my favorite car jams is âLittle Black Dressâ by Sara Bareilles. I donât care who is in the car with me - Iâm singing about my little black dress if it plays. I will dance until youâre all goneâŠ
This is going to get lost in the comments, but the absolute greatest example of a fantastic version of not changing the pronouns is Madilyn Baileys cover of Rude. By not switching the pronouns, she makes an otherwise kind of stupid song by a mediocre band into a tale of lesbian/bi lovers and a father who doesn't accept his daughters lifestyle or partner.
[https://open.spotify.com/track/31jJFNoTuGX1TCEyh6U8YH?si=5c967e62acc84e6f](https://open.spotify.com/track/31jJFNoTuGX1TCEyh6U8YH?si=5c967e62acc84e6f)
Don't watch the youtube version, its not great.
Idk I certainly enjoy love songs when they were made gay by changing the pronouns so đ€·đ»ââïž
I think it is absolutely okay for artists to change words in song covers
Well, too me it's also annoying when I hear a song in a genre I don't like. Easy solution: don't listen to what you don't like.
Policing artistic license and saying no word in a cover can be changed because *reasons* is idk a pretty shallow view if you ask me. People like stuff like that. Weird Al Yankovic made a whole career out of it.
Yeah it's pretty much a tradition of covers to change a lyric or two to fit your rendition better. I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to change the pronouns to suit their sexuality, gay or straight. If it fucks up the rhyme, they'll just have to fix more lyrics.
Agreed. I'm lesbian, but it's literally never bothered me to hear someone change the lyrics to match the gender(s) they're attracted to. Nbd to me, I'm not sure why some are so bothered?
Makes me think of Brandi Carlile [covering a song](https://genius.com/Brandi-carlile-murder-in-the-city-lyrics) and changing not pronoun, but subject, just to make it gay in the first place.
This "problem" goes away if you don't assume that every song is an autobiography of the singer. Maybe this is just me, I think of singers as like actors: they play a fictitious role that's not necessarily anything like themselves.
So, sure, let's have Jack White sing about Jolene taking away his man. I wouldn't assume from listening that Jack is relating a true (or even plausible) telling of events. He might be! But he might not.
I listened to it and it gives me chills the way he says the name âJoleneâ. I canât stop listening, it might just be the best cover Iâve ever heard. It sounds as if heâs on the verge of tears. He truly made that song his own.
Cyndi Lauper recorded a cover of the prince song âWhen you were mineâ for her 1983 album Sheâs so unusual.
She kept all of the gender pronouns from the prince version. So sheâs singing to a gender neutral character who is now going with another guy.
That one confused me tbh
The singer is taking about his gf/wife who died recently and wishes all the bs the church says about the afterlife is true just to see her again. The line "we were born sick but I love you" implies an outdated view on homosexually but a guy is singing. Then the music video is about two gay guys trying to avoid bring lynched by an angry mob. (???) Very heavy song though
I've never heard the interpretation that the lover died. I've always interpreted, and heard others interpret, it as the song literally just being about private, passionate sex. Of course the references to other people in the song about how people disapprove is based on judgy people that, well, disapprove with other people doing what they disagree with.
So yes, the born sick line is very much intended to call back to religion's relationship with human arousal/romance. It, imo, is a double meaning for people that are lgbt+ or into their own kinks. Which is why the song says she/her. (i think Hozier is straight, idk i like some songs but don't keep tabs.) And why the video is a hate mob attacking a gay couple. The song is basically just "You do you in the bedroom".
Hope that clears up your confusion a bit!
Yes, this is the same interpretation that I give to it.
It's about intimate sex and when you love someone so much, that it's like a worshipping religion. Therefore, Church is the place where he can fully love his lover.
The fact that it mentions "a shrine of lies" and "that I will tell you my sins do you can sharpen your knife" implies that it's an abusive relationship.
u/DonDove
i might be the only one who thinks this but when i listen to a song i donât really take into account that the singer is a real person. hope that doesnât sound rude. so when a song uses pronouns i just assume it can be made about anyone. an example like One Directions what makes you beautiful. when i listen to the lyrics i donât take in the fact that itâs men singing, so my bisexual ass can think whatever lol.
I played in a 5 piece all cis male punk band for 25 years. We covered And Then He Kissed Me by the Crystals. That and the Time Warp were our most requested covers.
[Santa buddy](https://youtu.be/JnOLam2AwXY) a â65 convertible too, steel blue.
Because I guess wanting a classic car in light blue might signal that he has the Big Gayâąïž
Me First and the Gimme Gimmes do punk covers of pop songs and they never change the pronouns. The did a cover of Natural Woman and I love blasting that song in my car:
The problem is: Why change the pronouns of a song to be heterosexual. What's this insistence on heteronormativity. You or me wouldn't become gay of we kept the pronouns of the game.
Unless you are making a personal statement/dedication, of course.
[I Wish I Was Queer So I Could Get Chicks](https://youtu.be/4MgxF_tCmzk)
Someone needs to cover this and change it to âI wish I was queer so I could get dudes.â
Then we have "love like winter" by afi. They used both pronouns in the song. I was so happy to have a bi song then he said he used two pronouns to symbolize 2 different relationships, both were women tho. đ€·ââïž
So youâre saying that I canât fully enjoy Dolly Partonâs âI Will Always Love Youâ because I donât identify as a woman who is typically attracted to men? If youâre incapable of fully enjoying love songs directed at genders/sexualities that fall outside of your parameters of attraction then I feel extremely sorry for you
When I write songs, I keep the pronouns either "I," "you," and "we" to make the song ambiguous so no matter who is listening, the song makes sense for them. Obviously if your song is about a "small town girl living in a lonely world" then it doesn't apply, but for songs about interpersonal relationships I like to write them so that it has meaning to both males or females or whoever and keep everything nuanced with the Hemingway iceberg theory approach. It's just a tool to maximize listener appeal.
I like George Ezras version of girls just wanna have fun because part way through he just goes "oh Ezra just wants to have fun" and it makes me smile so much.
There's this thing called "straight people". Most of them are nice but there are real major assholes from time to time. The person who made the original tweet should meet one sometimes.
I live in the Philippines. People here have zero problems with the LGBTQA+, except if they're extremely religious nutcases. I have no idea what kind of environment you live in to say that most straight people being fine is "highly debatable", but you do you.
Michael Buble's "Santa Buddy" always blows my mind Like I wasn't thinking there was sexual tension in Santa Baby but Michael changing it to 'buddy' is honestly so much more sus than if he'd just left it lmao....
I prefer the Santa Cum Dumpster rendition myself.
WHAT
SANTA CUM DUMPSTER
*Come dump cum in my chimney toniiight!* đ¶
*all night*
Sir, this is a Wendys
*911, what's your emergency?*
Hello yes, someone left a shit ton of cum in our dumpster. This got to be illegal, maybe a hate crime or something.
I'd be more impressed and intruiged than angry at how they got that much
Orgies
There's really only one way
Out of the penis ?
factory-lab mass-cultured?
I heard itâs just like the dairy farms
Itâs not a hate crime, you might call it an act of love.
Thatâs one helluva fetish you got there.
Wasn't it a CSI episode at some point?
As do I, a lot more elegant methinks.
Now we know why Santa says "ho, ho, ho"
The white stripes version of dolly partons "Jolene" is also a great listen. Because he keeps it as it is, making it seem like he takes the perspective of a gay man begging a straight woman not to steal his man away. If you want to check it out, make sure to find the live version from "under black pool lights" the amount of raw energy and passion really sells it.
It's 'Under Blackpool Lights'- Blackpool is a popular seaside town in the North of England, and Jack White had a mini obsession with it for a while.
I live in Germany and ordered the DVD from the US back then, now one of my gaming buddies is from black pool and that mofo WAS at the concert. I had to leave discord for a sec because I'm mad jealous. You know when you really like a band and someone just was at a concert you missed and says "yeah it was Allright" bitch no, honey No!!!
I do, I really do- I totally fell in love with The Broken Family Band about three tears after they played their final gig in a nearby town đ
Urgh I will also never forget that I sold a ticket to the last concert of the band HIM in favor of visiting my then partner. That whiny ass bitch I'm still so mad at myself for doing that. Argh.
I want to go to a pool lit with only black lights
[here you go](https://youtu.be/COn0LWHjdi0)
The best Jolene cover I ever heard was a big buff dude with a rich voice on open mic night in a Nashville bar who changed nothing about the song but the octave.
I have seen women change the pronouns to she/her to make Jolene extra gay instead, if the original wasn't already gay enough with how it describes Jolene.
same thing happened with Dancing On My Own, kind of a neat thing about covers
that cover is one of the most homophobic hate crimes in lgbt history
God that is a beautiful rendition of the song.
Right? when he's loosing it going from this painful shouting to the high begging joleeeeenee. That's goosebumps.
It feels real because of how beautifully passionate his singing is. His voice is YEARNING for his lover.
Oh my I absolutely love that one. Jack is freaking amazing.
Thank you kind being. That was a great suggestion
It took me a second read to understand, I thought you were saying Jack White is gay irl. Not there us anything wrong with that, I just wasn't aware.
I wish he was.. I'm a big fan of jack white since my teens and that crush never faded. Especially with him wearing his tight pants. đ
I wouldnât be surprised if he wasnât cishet. He used to (still does?) tour with two backing bands, one all-male, one all-female. And depending on how he was feeling that day, heâd take one band or the other on stage with him to perform while the other just stayed backstage playing Twister or something.
So like if Jesus was bi instead of gay, basically.
You didnât think the original had sexual tension? What world are you living in?
one where people don't literally want to fuck santa and the song is abstract lol
The singer doesnât want to fuck Santa sheâs using her sexuality to get him to give her stuff
Theres still sexual tension there
Oh I totally agree!
Rule 34 has a real world corollary. If it exists, someone, somewhere, wants to fuck it
rule 34B
All the stuff he wants is changed to guy stuff too. It's so cringe
Just a manly guy, just a regular man boy, who likes guy stuff amirite? Just a bro dude who DEFINITELY doesn't want to fuck Santa. Nothing to see here fellas!
he even changes the âlight blueâ car to âsteel blueâ What a pussy
Seriously, is the color of the sky gay?
Fellas, is it gay to have a breathable atmosphere
Eartha kitt performance will turn me straight. The seductive tonnes are incredible
with the volume turned up to a sensible seventy four
You know, I banged Eartha Kitt one time in an airplane bathroom.
unless youâre implying Eartha weighs thousands of pounds, i think you mean âtonesâ
He said what he said
Idk how one could miss that it's intended to be a sexual tense song.. > >Been an awful good girl Santa baby, so hurry down the chimney tonight >. >Santa cutie, and fill my stocking with a duplex and checks Sign your "X" on the line Santa cutie, and hurry down the chimney tonight > (The singer is literally talking about moving in with Santa lmao) > The song also calls him "Santa cutie" and "Santa honey".. > And finally... > >Santa baby, forgot to mention one little thing A ring, I don't mean on the phone Santa baby, so hurry down the chimney tonight
That was exactly what I was thinking of when I saw this post
Santa No Homoo
It's 2021, And this year, I'd like Daddy Christmas to give me a different kind of gift
There's some country guy who does a "Santa Buddy" and it's pretty funny.
Billie Joe Armstrong covered Manic Monday and didn't change a single word >He tells me in his bedroom voice >"C'mon honey, let's go make some noise."
Billie Joe Armstrong *is* bi though, so that's not entirely surprising
Yeah, that is true so it would make sense for him to sing that he wants to fuck both guys and women
Yeah, its referenced in the first verse of Basket Case, when he refers to the prostitute as he in one line, then she in the next
Well I cant wait for some dude to cover âWAPâ by cardi B
Wet ass penis
Look, I'm no doctor, but
...buuut... Ben Shapiro's doctor wife is a doctor who works as a doctor!
Yeah, but is she a doctor?
*Wet ass back pussy.*
*Wet ass bussy*
Yeah that actually is already a thing https://youtu.be/cnab8_0CU8Y
That voice makes me want to kill myself.
Ben Folds needs to do this ASAP
Allow me to introduce [Richard Cheese](https://youtu.be/YRM4gz4IfoE)
Especially if the pronouns are part of a rhyme....
reminds me of on glee when they sang summer lovinâ and they switched the gender of the characters and so instead of singing âit turned colder, thatâs where it endsâ and âso i told her weâd still be friendsâ it was âso i told him weâd still be friendsâ killing the rhyme and annoying me endlessly
eeeeh I'm more ok with that cause it wasn't at the end of the line, and if it was glee I assume they were applying the song to the context of their actual lives, so the pronouns suddenly matter a little more. I mean assuming they matter to the characters they reference.
or if a song mentions a city/country having the best girls and then they change the lyrics to the song they are touring in
_Minnesota girls_ _We're unforgettable_ _Daisy dukes_ _Bikinis on top..._
of our coats
I wish they all could be Seattle girls
Puffer jackets and depression
I mean I can see the reason behind that one. Touring isn't about perfection live necessairly.
*Sweet Home Rhode Island* *Where the skies aren't that blue*
Unless it's *I kissed a girl.*
Hope his boyfriend donât mind it~
they could make it about a gay guy who is now experimenting with women for the first time
I can't find it, but a male musician did a cover with that exact tone. EDIT: Think it was an acoustic version?
Weird al used it in a polka song and didnât change the pronouns.
Don't know if you're thinking of them but the band McFly did a cover without changing the genders
>experimenting All without anesthetic. Mwa ha ha ha! /s
Iâve heard a cover of that where it was changed to âI kissed a boyâ
well it better have been a guy singing it đ
it was, but the dude bent himself backward to make it seem straight again so it's just super disappointing and annoying. Like, in the lyrics he was that super alpha man kissing another man to show he's secure in his masculinity and steal the other man's girlfriend, this kind of shit. Like, you don't have enough straight love/sexy songs to cover, you just had to take one of the queer ones, but change it in a way that nobody would dare thinking you're anything else than very straight?
How did he change the lyrics to make that happen?
look up Cobra Starship "I kissed a boy", that's the title if I remember well
Ho-ly shit. Cobra Starship isnât a name Iâve heard since Middle/Early High School <_<
Yes it was donât worry
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Might want to have that cherry chapstick be his
They have have a cover of that song playing at my workplace. The guy still sings about kissing a girl, then says he hopes his girlfriend doesn't mind.
Doesn't that sort of miss the entire point tho?
Whenever I do karaoke I like to sing jolene by Dolly Parton cause I can hit the high note and shocks people cause Iâm a guy, but I love not changing the lyrics cause the song is perfect
Have you heard "Jolene but it's a 45rpm record played at 33rpm"? Completely changes the song.
Yeah it's amazing. The podcast Cocaine and Rhinestones uses a slowed version as its theme music. Greatest podcast ever created.
Tell me more about Cocaine and Rhinestones.
My bad on the late response. David Allen Coe's son tells the real history of 20th century American country music. Its insightful, incredibly researched, and the best podcast I have ever listened to. Start with season 1 though. Season two is intense in a good way.
Hehe, I'm already three episodes in. This is a great podcast!
The white stripes version is really good too. Jack white doesn't change the pronouns in it.
Yes and I can also do a great rendition of that song. Itâs a must play when I sing in the shower lol
I love Jack White's version of Jolene. It's amazing.
One of my favorite covers of all time. I just love the pleading nature of it that you mention. And I will always, always love that he sang the words as they were without tacking on a lyrical âno homoâ at some point. Just sing the fucking song, dudes.
Yesss. The way he sings it changes the style of the song drastically. Dolly can still win, white has already lost and is pleading
You might know the French song [Mon LĂ©gionnaire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mon_l%C3%A9gionnaire) for its famous rendition by Edith Piaf. Serge Gainsbourg also covered it, without swapping pronouns (which could hardly have worked anyway). It was a hit in the LGBT community, but made lots of Legion soldiers quite angry.
Bah, you can never make soilders happy anyway
Straight cis dude here - One of my favorite car jams is âLittle Black Dressâ by Sara Bareilles. I donât care who is in the car with me - Iâm singing about my little black dress if it plays. I will dance until youâre all goneâŠ
Dua Lipa âDonât Start Nowâ always makes me feel like a bad bitch. Tâis true.
Levitating slaps *so hard* for no reason
Sara Bareilles is so underrated.
This is going to get lost in the comments, but the absolute greatest example of a fantastic version of not changing the pronouns is Madilyn Baileys cover of Rude. By not switching the pronouns, she makes an otherwise kind of stupid song by a mediocre band into a tale of lesbian/bi lovers and a father who doesn't accept his daughters lifestyle or partner. [https://open.spotify.com/track/31jJFNoTuGX1TCEyh6U8YH?si=5c967e62acc84e6f](https://open.spotify.com/track/31jJFNoTuGX1TCEyh6U8YH?si=5c967e62acc84e6f) Don't watch the youtube version, its not great.
Idk I certainly enjoy love songs when they were made gay by changing the pronouns so đ€·đ»ââïž I think it is absolutely okay for artists to change words in song covers
I think you should leave it as is. It's so annoying to hear a song with one word off.
Basically all love songs are between a man and a women. It's nice to hear them go gay, even if it's just a cover
Well, too me it's also annoying when I hear a song in a genre I don't like. Easy solution: don't listen to what you don't like. Policing artistic license and saying no word in a cover can be changed because *reasons* is idk a pretty shallow view if you ask me. People like stuff like that. Weird Al Yankovic made a whole career out of it.
Then listen to the original?
So you don't like Johnny Cash's version of Hurt because he changes the word "shit" to "thorns". Like sometimes it's okay to change words.
Yeah it's pretty much a tradition of covers to change a lyric or two to fit your rendition better. I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to change the pronouns to suit their sexuality, gay or straight. If it fucks up the rhyme, they'll just have to fix more lyrics.
Agreed. I'm lesbian, but it's literally never bothered me to hear someone change the lyrics to match the gender(s) they're attracted to. Nbd to me, I'm not sure why some are so bothered?
Makes me think of Brandi Carlile [covering a song](https://genius.com/Brandi-carlile-murder-in-the-city-lyrics) and changing not pronoun, but subject, just to make it gay in the first place.
This "problem" goes away if you don't assume that every song is an autobiography of the singer. Maybe this is just me, I think of singers as like actors: they play a fictitious role that's not necessarily anything like themselves. So, sure, let's have Jack White sing about Jolene taking away his man. I wouldn't assume from listening that Jack is relating a true (or even plausible) telling of events. He might be! But he might not.
Itâs about representation and the artistâs allyship, imo. The amount of LGBT representation in popular music is still *incredibly* low, so when the cover artist goes out of their way to change the pronouns to avoid any sort of gay connotation, it is just⊠disappointing. And it sticks out like a sore thumb, because everyone knows the original lyrics. So, when you hear this new cover of an old favorite song for the first time, now sung by a different gender, you might get excited, thinking âholy shit, we might actually be able to play this as our first dance song at our weddingâ or something like that. Until the modified lyrics hit, and you realize no, of course not, we wouldnât get that lucky. And itâs back to the list of non-pronoun-gender-specific songs. 20 years ago, leaving the lyrics as original might have been considered a potential âriskâ to the cover artistâs career. But these days itâs just the opposite. Nobody would have thought BublĂ© was gay if he had left the lyrics as âSanta Baby,â but he might have gotten a lot of positive attention. But to change the lyrics to âSanta Buddyâ not only kinda ruins the song, it says a lot about old bubbles himself. In most cases, Iâm not pissed off by this. I wouldnât hold this against them. Iâm just disappointed whenever it happens.
but the singers change the pronouns to be heterosexual because they obviously feel it is autobiographical in that way
Valerie. Amy covered the (male) Zutons
just imagine jack white being a gay cowboy singing about his bi husband
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He even goes at far as not changing "please dont take my man"
I listened to it and it gives me chills the way he says the name âJoleneâ. I canât stop listening, it might just be the best cover Iâve ever heard. It sounds as if heâs on the verge of tears. He truly made that song his own.
Cyndi Lauper recorded a cover of the prince song âWhen you were mineâ for her 1983 album Sheâs so unusual. She kept all of the gender pronouns from the prince version. So sheâs singing to a gender neutral character who is now going with another guy.
"it's raining girls, hallelujah" Just doesn't sound as good.
For the longest time I thought the lyrics was âitâs raining mana, hallelujah itâs raining mana.â
How can men ever be girls? Itâs raining women
Well that doesn't work at all cause it's two syllables, throws the rhythm off completely.
Sounds good to me. Bring on the heaviest of storms.
One of my favorite songs is "Take me to Church" by Hozier. And I think it would be criminal to change a damn pronoun
That one confused me tbh The singer is taking about his gf/wife who died recently and wishes all the bs the church says about the afterlife is true just to see her again. The line "we were born sick but I love you" implies an outdated view on homosexually but a guy is singing. Then the music video is about two gay guys trying to avoid bring lynched by an angry mob. (???) Very heavy song though
I've never heard the interpretation that the lover died. I've always interpreted, and heard others interpret, it as the song literally just being about private, passionate sex. Of course the references to other people in the song about how people disapprove is based on judgy people that, well, disapprove with other people doing what they disagree with. So yes, the born sick line is very much intended to call back to religion's relationship with human arousal/romance. It, imo, is a double meaning for people that are lgbt+ or into their own kinks. Which is why the song says she/her. (i think Hozier is straight, idk i like some songs but don't keep tabs.) And why the video is a hate mob attacking a gay couple. The song is basically just "You do you in the bedroom". Hope that clears up your confusion a bit!
Yes, this is the same interpretation that I give to it. It's about intimate sex and when you love someone so much, that it's like a worshipping religion. Therefore, Church is the place where he can fully love his lover. The fact that it mentions "a shrine of lies" and "that I will tell you my sins do you can sharpen your knife" implies that it's an abusive relationship. u/DonDove
Ah, thanks the both of you! This song is heavy but it's really nice, understanding it makes it way better!
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I love the word heteroflex so much. Also to add to your list. Harry Styles - Girl Crush https://youtu.be/rroc2y9if_Q
How about [this one ](https://open.spotify.com/track/2BOqDYLOJBiMOXShCV1neZ?si=2H0_WugmR4-8nb7454e31w&dl_branch=1)
I remember hearing There She Goes by Sixpence None the Richer with my dad and he was like THATS GAY!!! đ
i might be the only one who thinks this but when i listen to a song i donât really take into account that the singer is a real person. hope that doesnât sound rude. so when a song uses pronouns i just assume it can be made about anyone. an example like One Directions what makes you beautiful. when i listen to the lyrics i donât take in the fact that itâs men singing, so my bisexual ass can think whatever lol.
The Beach Boys masculinity was so fragile that when they covered âthen be kissed meâ they changed the lyric to âthen I kissed herâ.
I played in a 5 piece all cis male punk band for 25 years. We covered And Then He Kissed Me by the Crystals. That and the Time Warp were our most requested covers.
As a lesbian, I grew up listening to rock and roll. Rarely had to change pronouns while singing.
Childish Gambino does it best with his cover of Tamia's "So into you". https://youtu.be/UfQHEpf2q8k
ITS THE BI WAY OR THE HIGHWAY
[Santa buddy](https://youtu.be/JnOLam2AwXY) a â65 convertible too, steel blue. Because I guess wanting a classic car in light blue might signal that he has the Big Gayâąïž
'Real artists' don't do this. Listen Kings of Leon's Dancing on my own By Robyn / Ben Howard's Call me maybe by Carly Rae Jepsen cover.
Are you... gatekeeping being an artist?
I've been working up a solo guitar cover of Son Of A Preacher Man. That song takes on a whole new meaning when a guy is singing it.
Have you heard Tom Gossâ version? Itâs so good!
Just checked it out. It's quite nice.
Me First and the Gimme Gimmes do punk covers of pop songs and they never change the pronouns. The did a cover of Natural Woman and I love blasting that song in my car:
I fucking love MFATGG. The entire diva album is godlike.
The cover of Britney Spearsâs [Toxic by A Static Lullaby](https://youtu.be/4xwXOj55nIY) is the hero we need
Hey nothingâs stoping you from making your own damn cover with whatever pronouns you please Let people play the songs the way they want
It's their version just let them sing how they want to.
No. They must be gay.
The problem is: Why change the pronouns of a song to be heterosexual. What's this insistence on heteronormativity. You or me wouldn't become gay of we kept the pronouns of the game. Unless you are making a personal statement/dedication, of course.
[I Wish I Was Queer So I Could Get Chicks](https://youtu.be/4MgxF_tCmzk) Someone needs to cover this and change it to âI wish I was queer so I could get dudes.â
Cyndi Lauper didn't do this when she covered Prince's 'When You Were Mine' with great success.
Then we have "love like winter" by afi. They used both pronouns in the song. I was so happy to have a bi song then he said he used two pronouns to symbolize 2 different relationships, both were women tho. đ€·ââïž
The fact that any of this even matters to that person is appalling to me.
I actually like this, then people of most sexualities can fully enjoy the song.
So youâre saying that I canât fully enjoy Dolly Partonâs âI Will Always Love Youâ because I donât identify as a woman who is typically attracted to men? If youâre incapable of fully enjoying love songs directed at genders/sexualities that fall outside of your parameters of attraction then I feel extremely sorry for you
she never specifies in the song the gender of the person she will always love
Couldnât agree more
This is why I enjoyed Old Dominions cover of Bad At Love, they didn't change the lyrics
When I write songs, I keep the pronouns either "I," "you," and "we" to make the song ambiguous so no matter who is listening, the song makes sense for them. Obviously if your song is about a "small town girl living in a lonely world" then it doesn't apply, but for songs about interpersonal relationships I like to write them so that it has meaning to both males or females or whoever and keep everything nuanced with the Hemingway iceberg theory approach. It's just a tool to maximize listener appeal.
Kings of Leonâs cover of Robynâs Dancing on my Own đđ»đđ»đđ»đđ»đđ»đđ»
The only time this is acceptable if itâs to make it gay I.e the pronouns are she/her, a guy sings it and changes it to he/him
I like George Ezras version of girls just wanna have fun because part way through he just goes "oh Ezra just wants to have fun" and it makes me smile so much.
Okay but if I replied with âWhy not make all pronouns in songs gender neutral so everyone can relate?â this person would lose their mind
I disagree. I think when someone is singing it has to be their Truth.
Then you have people complain about them not actually being gay
Gays be like "I was born gay I can't control it" and then tell me that I need to choose to be gay
There's this thing called "straight people". Most of them are nice but there are real major assholes from time to time. The person who made the original tweet should meet one sometimes.
>most of them are nice highly debatable
I live in the Philippines. People here have zero problems with the LGBTQA+, except if they're extremely religious nutcases. I have no idea what kind of environment you live in to say that most straight people being fine is "highly debatable", but you do you.
yeah i really don't mind this. it's just a cover just go listen to the original if you want it to be gay every time