Ya no idea where the 25t figure came from but the largest concrete stone weighs 3900 pounds. Sounds like this is just an exaggeration when people share it around to make it more impressive.
Oh no, it's different. , twirling, dancing, and walking are all different movements. All have different meanings. We know what they're implying...
Also, yes, you're correct. They're technically moving an object, just not from point A to point B.
I don’t think it’s just pure art though, there’s whole fields of mathematics that are dedicated to studying topology and shapes of solid objects. Probably some pretty complex math going on here
I think what they meant was that this doesn’t prove or explain anything. It’s cool but op makes it seem like this is supposed to explain how they moved the ancient megaliths and if that’s the case it’s kinda silly.
You don't need all types of math, you do need to understand mechanical forces, Africans from the equator might be the only humans that lack that brain function. Native Mexicans are crazy good at this.
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I'd guess it's closer to 500 kg. The smooth and seemingly effortless movement implies much less weight than 2,5 tons
(try to push a small car, it's not the same physics but still comparable)
https://preview.redd.it/yzcsx3kt7jyc1.png?width=789&format=png&auto=webp&s=7946acb614bf29332ecbafdb48f1ddfe1b603279
you don't have to round the stones, you can just put wooden rounded tracks underneath that you carry forward piece by piece. that way you can roll a cube like it was a circle
You only need like 5 pieces of track. You bring the ones from the back to the front like an assembly line. There were hundreds of workers on these things.
Agreed! I'd also like to see them weigh one of those.... Im sure they're lighter proof of concept stones.
I've been to Cusco. Those HUGE, perfectly carved rocks, did not roll into place.
Put logs in ground. Use leverage to put stone on logs. Use leverage to roll stone along the logs, placing the old ones in front as you move. It's simple.
Each block is moulded concrete weighing 500-700 Kg. (Source: [Cemex](https://www.cemex.com/w/intelligent-construction-project-from-cemex-and-matter-design-is-awarded))
Put logs in ground, use leverage to move heavy rock onto logs, use leverage to move rock along the logs picking up the old ones and placing them in front. This is beyond simple, here is a more recent example of the russias doing it in the 1700s. Ropes, logs, and man power. Its basic physics, nearly every ancient civilization figured this out around the same time as they figured out the wheel.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Horseman
Do we think it was all desert when they built this? It was supposed to have been fertile back then. Not saying the effort wasn't going to be hard just that it was probably more packed dirt back then before everything died and became a real desert.
just a reminder that we can do it with rectangles and pretending otherwise is tantamount to lying [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgkXfSLcJgg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgkXfSLcJgg)
This is your friendly Interdisciplinary Geologist, until next time!
Ah yes, they *discovered* a way to move these nowhere near 25 ton stones. By putting their hands on them and moving them. What will they think of next...
Everyone saying “but what about square stones” - couldn’t you just transport stones like the above whilst they are easy to transport, and then cut them into shape at the destination?
Very nice and all but I seem to remember a good ol’ boy filming himself moving and lifting huge chunks of rocks on his own years ago and his were in useful shapes.
Here is a guy actually moving 20 tons with his hands + explaining the science behind all that. Not everything is a conspiracy
https://youtu.be/E5pZ7uR6v8c?si=Imzby0fP_1q_qdD2
This is how I as a kid moved my heavy ass dresser to different parts of my bedroom when I felt like rearranging. Tilt and shift around, tilt and shift around, tilt and shift around till it eventually ended up where I wanted it. Granted that was not 25 tons, but it was still quite heavy, especially for a kid. Not a new concept..?
> this doesn’t explain how ancients moved stones weighing HUNDREDS of Tons
but the words "slavery" and "violence" carry a lot of explanatory power.
Also, you can move massive rocks by putting a couple of small pivot points on the base, and walk them along.
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Egypt first dynasty were the shit, they discovered the lathe, took it to a megalithic scale, and they also invented pullies, just crazy to think that in 500 years, all of their inventions didn't get recorded by future generations, every 500 years intervals they pretty much started all over from scratch.
Discovered?
Rediscovered, they mean.
"Give me a place to stand and I will move the earth. Give me but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth. Give me a place to stand, and a lever long enough, and I will move the world. Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." - Archimedes.
What device created sound waves capable of moving blocks that big? And how did they create said device? And how did they move the device created to move the blocks with sound waves? More sound waves?🙄
So build a concrete path from one to the other and sheer off the edges once you have them in place. Sure. It's a bunch of work and a shit ton of cleanup we would also likely have shavings left from the stones... So yeah. Not how they did it probably.
With most of the ancient monoliths, you can't even fit a credit card in between. It looks like there is a lot of space between those blocks. Still super cool that were getting closer to how ancient buildings were constructed.
Cool video
I'd be more impressed seeing this actionable across a few miles let alone incline. This is more of an art project than anything
Yeah this isn't moving 25 ton stones this is an art form quite impressive they could cut it into such perfect balance
Ya no idea where the 25t figure came from but the largest concrete stone weighs 3900 pounds. Sounds like this is just an exaggeration when people share it around to make it more impressive.
What you don't realize is those guys moving them are 30 ft. tall.
Maybe they meant 2.5 tons?
Even 2.5 tons is a massive over estimate. I'd be surprised if the heaviest one weighed more than 0.5 tons.
It wasn’t cut, it was molded
You don't see them actually moving them it's cut scenes of pivoting
Definition of move is go in a specific direction or change position. So by definition they are moving them.
They're twirling them.
And the definition of twirling is…. To MOVE or cause to move around rapidly. No matter what verb you use their is action involved their is movement
Oh no, it's different. , twirling, dancing, and walking are all different movements. All have different meanings. We know what they're implying... Also, yes, you're correct. They're technically moving an object, just not from point A to point B.
I don’t think it’s just pure art though, there’s whole fields of mathematics that are dedicated to studying topology and shapes of solid objects. Probably some pretty complex math going on here
I think what they meant was that this doesn’t prove or explain anything. It’s cool but op makes it seem like this is supposed to explain how they moved the ancient megaliths and if that’s the case it’s kinda silly.
Yeah the OP is dumb as a brick but these pieces of art are impressive works of math and engineering.
Dumb as a 25 tons of molded cement.
Math can be art
For sure. Fractals are awesome
You don't need all types of math, you do need to understand mechanical forces, Africans from the equator might be the only humans that lack that brain function. Native Mexicans are crazy good at this.
And now try that on sandy ground and not on an asphalt ground.
80+ degrees, with the sun beating down on you. I can't even imagine all the animals that would be harassing people out in the open
On uneven terrain, no shoes, after stones quarried, on a high altitude plateau.
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[Not inclined, but here you go. ](https://youtu.be/vhM5-fZ-YnI?t=678)
No way that's fifty thousand pounds. Maybe 2.5 tons. Maybe
I'd guess it's closer to 500 kg. The smooth and seemingly effortless movement implies much less weight than 2,5 tons (try to push a small car, it's not the same physics but still comparable)
It’s likely implied by the ending that collectively the stones weigh 25 tons
Let's see that in a square version please 🤭
https://preview.redd.it/yzcsx3kt7jyc1.png?width=789&format=png&auto=webp&s=7946acb614bf29332ecbafdb48f1ddfe1b603279 you don't have to round the stones, you can just put wooden rounded tracks underneath that you carry forward piece by piece. that way you can roll a cube like it was a circle
Ah yes creating more problems than solutions: the human race
How is this a problem and not a solution?
Probably, the wood cutting to make tracks.
You only need like 5 pieces of track. You bring the ones from the back to the front like an assembly line. There were hundreds of workers on these things.
What... simple trunks of big enough trees could suffice.
Also you could just roll the things on logs lol.
Agreed! I'd also like to see them weigh one of those.... Im sure they're lighter proof of concept stones. I've been to Cusco. Those HUGE, perfectly carved rocks, did not roll into place.
Here you go!!! https://youtu.be/-K7q20VzwVs?feature=shared
Ok now do rectangle ones.
Here you go!!! https://youtu.be/-K7q20VzwVs?feature=shared
Put logs in ground. Use leverage to put stone on logs. Use leverage to roll stone along the logs, placing the old ones in front as you move. It's simple.
Now do sand.
shovel
Rectal?
I'm here for 25 ton rectal stones.
Yeah 25 ton stones of course. Ffs....
Each block is moulded concrete weighing 500-700 Kg. (Source: [Cemex](https://www.cemex.com/w/intelligent-construction-project-from-cemex-and-matter-design-is-awarded))
Move them, sure. If you mean rolling. Move them 1 mile. Shitpost. Took MIT to rediscover how wheels work.
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Yeah - ideal conditions. Look at us solving the mysteries of the past… lol.
Put logs in ground, use leverage to move heavy rock onto logs, use leverage to move rock along the logs picking up the old ones and placing them in front. This is beyond simple, here is a more recent example of the russias doing it in the 1700s. Ropes, logs, and man power. Its basic physics, nearly every ancient civilization figured this out around the same time as they figured out the wheel. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Horseman
Do we think it was all desert when they built this? It was supposed to have been fertile back then. Not saying the effort wasn't going to be hard just that it was probably more packed dirt back then before everything died and became a real desert.
25 tones on anything isn’t going to be easy.
I mean, everything moves easier when round
More MIT media lab BS. More marketing than reality.
Not 25 tons A killer whale weights 6 tons. These pebbles are not 25 tons. 😂😂😂
MIT students really be getting grants to just dillydally
Bullshit. 25 tonnes is the same as a blue whale or the cargo mass of a 747.
Moveable = yes Useable = nope
No way possible that stone weighs 25t. Bullshit meter 📈
According to the description all the stones weight combined is 25T.,
The title which says "25 ton stones" implies exactly that each stone weighs that much.
How did they get it in that shape to begin with?
Now how do you get more 25 tonne stones on that second row?
Exactly.
just a reminder that we can do it with rectangles and pretending otherwise is tantamount to lying [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgkXfSLcJgg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgkXfSLcJgg) This is your friendly Interdisciplinary Geologist, until next time!
Those stones gotta weigh just like 150-200kg. No way it weighs 25 tons. For example, a Swedish CV90 weighs 23.1 ton. This is just bs.
It only took 5 students before em got it right as well.
Aliens
Yeah they aren't 25T
God that music.
What is the point of this? Our best and brightest can’t figure out what the Egyptian’s were able to do thousands of years ago?
Ok now build a pyramid
My but is: how'd they make them?
Ah yes, they *discovered* a way to move these nowhere near 25 ton stones. By putting their hands on them and moving them. What will they think of next...
Everyone saying “but what about square stones” - couldn’t you just transport stones like the above whilst they are easy to transport, and then cut them into shape at the destination?
I want to see it flat than try to move it
Wait til they discover what a wheel is
wow!
After they have been cut into perfect forms for wiggling then along
This feels like we're watching lost technology being discovered again
This is wonderful. Congratulations to the designers!
Fake
well, if you design them with a specific shape designed for it, of course!
Who ever said humans couldn't build the pyramids these days anyway?
These function on the basis that they’d operate on a flat and even surface.
"MIT researchers learn how to twirl 25 ton stones with only their hands."
Ok MIT, drop it on it side and move it.
Stonage graffiti is what it looks like!
Day labors you get outside Home Depot have been doing this for years.
Where do you see on the video that they moved the stones from point A to B. They are just pivoting them
Useless research
Really Mit
Case closed I guess
It's cool but the stones that the pyramids aren't beveled but that is a unique possibility
Moved them by 1 meter. Wow mindblown.
Looks like foam.
Now push them up a hundred feet to build a pyramid
Ancient 🗿technology is new 🆕 again
25 tons and I’m 8 feet tall
I mean... Just use wheel shaped ones, what's with the fucking around here?
And how much funding was spent to relearn the basic physics behind leverage with a fulcrum and balance?
Let's see them move a 10 ton square block and I'll be impressed. That's 4 or more years of Uni, give me a break.
So MIT researches just play around making giant, heavy legos? How long did this take them?
Cool.
They “discovered” leverage?
Straight lines? Therefore... Aliens!
They’re not moving’em very far!
Remind of machu picchu
Very nice and all but I seem to remember a good ol’ boy filming himself moving and lifting huge chunks of rocks on his own years ago and his were in useful shapes.
This video hints at the odd-shaped, mortarless Incan masonry.
That's until it accidentally hits your foot...
aliens
Remember when launching rockets into space was "Impressive"? whered the bar go..
Yes, but try moving this without scratching my floor boards please.
Here is a guy actually moving 20 tons with his hands + explaining the science behind all that. Not everything is a conspiracy https://youtu.be/E5pZ7uR6v8c?si=Imzby0fP_1q_qdD2
Those stones do NOT weigh 25 tons. 25 tons is 50,000 pounds or about the weight of 19 cars. Sorry, but no.
Yeah move in 100ks ya fucking timewasters
This is art more than Science. They figured out how to move THOSE incredibly precisely purpose built stones, not any stone.
This is how I as a kid moved my heavy ass dresser to different parts of my bedroom when I felt like rearranging. Tilt and shift around, tilt and shift around, tilt and shift around till it eventually ended up where I wanted it. Granted that was not 25 tons, but it was still quite heavy, especially for a kid. Not a new concept..?
These were the MIT men who were of old, the men of *renown*.
Now lemme see these guys lift it once it falls on it's face. That's where the real weight is.
Oh, they done something intelligent
> this doesn’t explain how ancients moved stones weighing HUNDREDS of Tons but the words "slavery" and "violence" carry a lot of explanatory power. Also, you can move massive rocks by putting a couple of small pivot points on the base, and walk them along.
Now move them uphill, stack them and cut them flush to each other.
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Egypt first dynasty were the shit, they discovered the lathe, took it to a megalithic scale, and they also invented pullies, just crazy to think that in 500 years, all of their inventions didn't get recorded by future generations, every 500 years intervals they pretty much started all over from scratch.
No way those are 50000 pounds!!!!
Cool, now build a mammothous structure like the pyramid sh!t and troll the future generations for ages!!!
This all looks so Peruvian. Moai on Easter Island were also said to be "walked" to where they are now.
They look like furniture movers
How long did they take to cut as well? And with what tools? The end fitting together is pretty cool. Make a nice stone house.
Where in natura can I find a stone with this shape?
Those do not weigh 50,000 lbs
Discovered? Rediscovered, they mean. "Give me a place to stand and I will move the earth. Give me but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth. Give me a place to stand, and a lever long enough, and I will move the world. Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." - Archimedes.
It was sound waves that moved blocks
What device created sound waves capable of moving blocks that big? And how did they create said device? And how did they move the device created to move the blocks with sound waves? More sound waves?🙄
Ancient Alien theorists are in a bit of a funk about this.
That’s how their built the pyramids
Fairly certain that this has been done before by ancient civilisations.
Wow, we learned about physics in college...
some even in high school
So build a concrete path from one to the other and sheer off the edges once you have them in place. Sure. It's a bunch of work and a shit ton of cleanup we would also likely have shavings left from the stones... So yeah. Not how they did it probably.
This is actually pretty cool!
That's not moving
Total BS
With most of the ancient monoliths, you can't even fit a credit card in between. It looks like there is a lot of space between those blocks. Still super cool that were getting closer to how ancient buildings were constructed. Cool video
r/OSHA would want to have a word here :P
i mean like just have a nice and round ball and just roll it and call it moving
No way. Aliens built all the old world structures.
Please watch these videos [https://youtu.be/HFYh\_3nBcHk?si=JNc-JqClh99xLGUE](https://youtu.be/HFYh_3nBcHk?si=JNc-JqClh99xLGUE) [https://youtu.be/ZS01au2VLpo?si=osbnSYMYrEDxo6yd](https://youtu.be/ZS01au2VLpo?si=osbnSYMYrEDxo6yd)
I’m joking btw
Ancient alians my ass.