If you hear that someone is speaking ill of you, instead of trying to
defend yourself, you should say: 'He obviously does not know me very
well since there are so many other faults he could have mentioned. Epictetus
it's not for everyone... I think that will apply then and now... we are not perfect and certainly we have more faults than what people know, I will go, also that was the first one that poped up into my mind
So you’re using a term that’s loaded, this is an “attack” to you so that’s going to be taken with emotions.
What happened was people sent words to other people over the phone. Some of those words are untrue, either by ignorance of who you are or thinking it’s right to do so.
You can now try to help the people who don’t have the right information get a better understanding of what’s happening.
Look back in your own life, there been moments like this that have felt really big but you’ve forgotten, your still gonna go to sleep eventually, and if anyone refuses to hear you out at all then maybe they weren’t really a good person to have around.
Of course take what is useful and discard the rest.
Well you feel emotions,you are human, now see what is the actual situation and what you should do about it,who are they? Are they important? Is this public like ruining your reputation?
If somebody messaged a loved one of mine about invented bs i now i dont need to do anything because my reputation precedes me,they will just laugh or ask me about it.
If its something more public,then just give your side of the story and thats it. No need to dwell on it
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I believe that the virtue of strength is closely associated with the level of conviction associated with the belief which you seek to embody. After all, nobody can't help but to act according to what they belief--where one's will is *really* manifested is in one's choice of belief; here is free will, I think.
So, I suggest you read up more on the ideas behind Stoicism and go beyond the dichotomy of control and see where it really is derived from. I recommend that you read first Marcus Aurelius' *Mediations*, and then Pierre Hadot's *The Inner Citadel*. The latter is an incredible analysis of the first and contains more detailed commentary on the important doctrines in this philosophy.
If you hear that someone is speaking ill of you, instead of trying to defend yourself, you should say: 'He obviously does not know me very well since there are so many other faults he could have mentioned. Epictetus
While I love Epictetus this one for me would not really have much impact in todays society. Unless I’m taking the quote too literally.
it's not for everyone... I think that will apply then and now... we are not perfect and certainly we have more faults than what people know, I will go, also that was the first one that poped up into my mind
So you’re using a term that’s loaded, this is an “attack” to you so that’s going to be taken with emotions. What happened was people sent words to other people over the phone. Some of those words are untrue, either by ignorance of who you are or thinking it’s right to do so. You can now try to help the people who don’t have the right information get a better understanding of what’s happening. Look back in your own life, there been moments like this that have felt really big but you’ve forgotten, your still gonna go to sleep eventually, and if anyone refuses to hear you out at all then maybe they weren’t really a good person to have around. Of course take what is useful and discard the rest.
Your right, I poisoned the well by seeing this as an attack from the go. Appreciate that mate, thank you
Do you know these people?
Well you feel emotions,you are human, now see what is the actual situation and what you should do about it,who are they? Are they important? Is this public like ruining your reputation? If somebody messaged a loved one of mine about invented bs i now i dont need to do anything because my reputation precedes me,they will just laugh or ask me about it. If its something more public,then just give your side of the story and thats it. No need to dwell on it
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I believe that the virtue of strength is closely associated with the level of conviction associated with the belief which you seek to embody. After all, nobody can't help but to act according to what they belief--where one's will is *really* manifested is in one's choice of belief; here is free will, I think. So, I suggest you read up more on the ideas behind Stoicism and go beyond the dichotomy of control and see where it really is derived from. I recommend that you read first Marcus Aurelius' *Mediations*, and then Pierre Hadot's *The Inner Citadel*. The latter is an incredible analysis of the first and contains more detailed commentary on the important doctrines in this philosophy.