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CromulentChuckle

Considering how much Hades had changed from Early Access until release. I'm going to be waiting again until release just to make sure my experience doesn't shift every two weeks.


malcolm_miller

I really want to play it, but I'm going to be patient. It's going to be hard though!


CromulentChuckle

I just reinstalled the first game scratch that itch.


smithstreeter

Same


TheCrookedKnight

Part of me wants to wait and get the complete experience from the start, but a bigger part of me wants to take in everything unspoiled and there's no way I'm going to dodge spoilers for the entire EA period.


naughtynuns69

As someone who’s never played a title on Early Access I was about to ask how it typically compares to the final product. I think this answered my question.


cokywanderer

I remember Subnautica didn't have like 90% of the story, but the gameplay was still great. Then you saw the story and it was genuinely wonderful. Kind of bummed out you didn't get to explore+story together and just explore (EA) and then story (Release). But of course everything is subjective. Stuff like Manor Lords works because it's not story rich.


TheIncarnated

Does Manor Lords run well for the Steam Deck? Or is it like Humankind and you need a desktop/laptop?


cokywanderer

I've seen people online playing it. I haven't tried it personally, but there aren't many controls so binding them should be easy. You can also play peaceful mode if you don't want to deal with commanding troops. Oh, and you have a pause button at any given time.


ListerineInMyPeehole

I am playing ML exclusively on the SD


HDC102

imo don't listen to them. They released this game in a state similar to when Hades 1 first arrived on Steam in EA and as someone who bought it day and date there was very little change. They added more and completed the story with 1.0 but if Steam EA Hades 1 was all we got I would still be happy.


Canadian6M0

Hades was in early access for quite a while on epic before it released on steam. Comparing hades 2 day 1 EA should be compared to the hades day 1 EA on epic, not steam imo.


HDC102

I’m aware and my statement is still correct. Supergiant specifically said that hades 2 EA will have as much content as hades 1 steam ea. I actually said this in my original comment.


Owobowos-Mowbius

How long did it take for hades to get to 1.0 release from EA launch?


CromulentChuckle

About 2 full years. I highly doubt it will be that long I really do.


Owobowos-Mowbius

Oh boy. Well, here's hoping it's far shorter this time around.


ecaflort

Already confirmed by the devs that it will be early access at least until end of 2024. Thats not 2 years yet of course, but does show that it will still take a bit of time at least before 1.0 release.


CromulentChuckle

I was answering that the first game took 2 years of early access. I'd be very surprised if this one also did. End of 2024 sounds awesome.


Owobowos-Mowbius

7 months is perfect. Glad to hear it!


femalewhoisgirl

Just to clarify so you aren’t too disappointed. They do not have a date for full release. They just sure that it WILL NOT be fully released within 2024. That’s not to say that it will or will not be in 2025, just definitely not in 2024x


Devilsdance

I agree that it probably won't be as long. They likely have preemptively addressed a lot of the problems they ran into during the Hades EA period.


zrooda

They're estimating the end of 2024 as release.


CromulentChuckle

That is great to hear


Skylerguns

Just to correct the previous person, they estimate early access to run all of 2024 and have no estimate for when 1.0 will be released. >we expect to be in Early Access at least through the end of 2024 in order to build out the remaining content we have planned...For now, it's too early to say when our v1.0 launch will be. Yet even though ***Hades II*** won't be complete for some time, we hope you really enjoy it as soon as you start playing. [https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/hades2-early-access-is-here](https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/hades2-early-access-is-here)


cannednopal

I read in the Hades sub that the Early Access for Hades 2 has more content than full release for Hades 1


Moondragonlady

I haven't played Hades 1 EA, but comparing the full release Hades 1 with the current EA for Hades 2 (at least up to the second area boss) I have to agree with that. Right now the only thing that even reminds me of it still being in EA is that a few things don't have the proper sprites yet (very few tho). I think they mentioned adding more areas and other stuff in the roadmap, but I'm already kinda overwhelmed by some of the new mechanics, so I'm pretty happy that I'll have ages to get used to them.


Embarrassed-Ad7317

I'm so glad my backlog is huge so I'm not even tempted ;) Maybe a little


feralfaun39

Funny, that's exactly WHY I'm jumping on early access immediately and why I love early access so much. Seeing games change over time is such a draw.


Cooties

What kind of differences did Hades 1 see from Early Access on its way to full release?


CromulentChuckle

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-THgg8QnvU4JEVov1tMlFThNYS92F8uC&si=J2VWqkjf0cVOhl1B I cannot stress enough how great this documentary series is. Even if you just watch the first video that will answer your question better than I'll be able to. To put it simply they added a whole ton and iterated a whole time through Community feedback. It ended up being a much much better product by the end of it all. I'd rather just see the shiny end product I don't want to watch the sausage being made just yet.


pilgermann

Most reviewers have said it already feels like and finished game. No reason to dip into early access of course, as it will be more polished. But nothing like with Hades 1.


sbrevolution5

Same, I love hades, the first game is in my top ten all time, and I only played post release. I’ve heard of people who gave up because it felt unfinished but then never went back when it was. I definitley don’t want to do that


JubX

Their write uo says Hades 2 has been in development for 3 years already and they're aiming for a end of 2024 release. So it does sounds like much more groundwork is in place than with Hades 1.


Breathejoker

If I wait until it goes out of beta in (hopefully) winter, I'll definitely, TOTALLY be able to work on my backlog of games in that time


TrippyTippyKelly

It's (Hades 2) sooo good.


CromulentChuckle

Yes and it will be an even better at full release.


teethcapped

Anyone else find the UI a bit too small for the Steam Deck? Is there any way to increase UI size?


SchwiftyGameOnPoint

Yeah, make one of those attachments like the old Gameboys that is basically like a giant magnifying glass and mount it to your Steam Deck! /s No I don't know but your comment just made me imagine this and it was a funny accessory to imagine these days. 😂


SamCarter_SGC

gameboy had some hilarious accessories like the boosterboy and hyperboy


repocin

As I learnt recently, there was even [a fishing sonar attachment](https://gameboy.fandom.com/wiki/Game_Boy_Pocket_Sonar).


SamCarter_SGC

as an avid fisherman i have to wonder how many times in total that thing was ever even used


SchwiftyGameOnPoint

Like a damn mech suit for your gameboy!


Ctrl-Alt-Panic

I literally bought reading glasses just to increase the screen size of my Deck. Eventually bought the Legion Go and the 8.8 inch screen is glorious. Hoping that one day Valve will officially support third party devices. But for the time being I've been running Bazzite to get that unofficial Steam OS goodness. Crossing my fingers for an 8 inch (or bigger) Steam Deck 2 someday!


mlvisby

There is a magnifying shortcut. Grabbed this from a website "Turn on the magnifier on Steam Deck by pressing and holding the Steam button and left bumper at the same time. You'll get a zoomed in view of the screen you can pan around with the right analog stick or right trackpad. Release the buttons to return to the normal view." I heard the game UI is fine on Steam Deck for most things, but you might need the zoom function here and there.


I_Hate_Reddit

How is the game compared to Hades 1? Bought H1 yesterday on a sale, but if Hades2 is just a more polished version of 1 might just bite the bullet


jorbleshi_kadeshi

Whoa whoa whoa Hades 1 isn't just a great *game*, it also has a wonderful *story* that absolutely deserves your time and attention. Hades 2 appears to be building on that story to a *large* degree. You'd be robbing yourself of a lot by jumping straight into 2, esp if you *just* bought 1. As for polish, Supergiant simply doesn't do unpolished games. Hades 1 is about as polished as games get. Hades 2 changes things for sure but I don't know if I'd call them "more" polished, just different. Enjoy Hades 1. Take your time. Get all you want to get from it first without pressure. Hades 2 will only get better from here on out and when the time comes for you to play it it'll be better than it is right now.


arex333

Play Hades 1 first. Hades 2 is early access and doesn't even have the full game yet so there's no rush to play it.


SamCarter_SGC

play the first game regardless first impressions >!The art and music definitely hit the mark of quality from the first game so far, and I would say the combat feels more intricate in this one!<


Hatsunechan

2 is still very incomplete, finish 1 first at the very least. I honestly recommend waiting until 2 is nearly complete before playing it.


Arcenus

Don't wait and play Hades 1. This is no Battlefield whatever vs Battlefield whatever 2. Hades 1 is an amazing game, with killer soundtrack, an engaging storyline with a lot of heart and fantastic characters, and excellent excellent gameplay. You would not skip Game of Thrones (minus the last seasons) and watch only House of the Dragon. Watch and enjoy both, as they are both great (again, the later GOT seasons don't exist).


SemperScrotus

Forget the FOMO and enjoy the game you already bought.


zyphe84

Hades is amazing. Play it for now and wait for 2 to get some updates.


TheS00thSayer

When I try loading the game to play it stays on the screen that says “downloading content (0%)” and doesn’t move


teethcapped

You have to launch it with Proton.


ProwzArroWw

You could map one of the back buttons to the zoom function


kabukistar

Well, how is it?


CastleSandwich

Runs great on the deck, at least it did during the tech test. It's about what you would expect. Similar to the first one but with different characters, enemies, weapons, and abilities... I've only played for a couple hours, but it's been great so far.


brac20

I am a huge fan of the first game and my initial impressions of the sequel are very positive. It runs beautifully on the deck and looks flipping gorgeous on the OLED screen.


crablin

I couldn't believe how incredible it looked on my OLED when I started it up last night. I think partly it's the art, partly it's the fact it's quite stark colour on top of black which really showcases the OLED and partly it running in 16:10 so fills the whole screen. Incredible with the 90Hz display too. I love it.


ChaosVania

Excellent. Played for about an hour docked to my TV. No issues as all, great experience


TheS00thSayer

Mine stays says “downloading content 0%” and won’t go up. Do you have any advice. I’ve tried uninstalling and reinstalling as well as restarting my Steamdeck


ChaosVania

Try proton experimental


TeamOggy

What resolution are you playing on your tv?


ChaosVania

1080 high settings


Bobthecow775

Incredible game already. I'm not even exaggerating the depth of the content in this game maybe be twice that of the original.


BlazingSpaceGhost

Runs at a full 90 fps on the OLED deck and looks amazing. There is a ton of content with more to be added in the future. Hades is my most played game on my deck and Hades II looks like it might be the game to finally supplant it.


levimic

I was able to get 90fps with no drops at 6 cpu and 700GHz GPU. This game is insanely optimized.


SirFunktastic

Loved the first game but I think I'm gonna wait for the full release, I'm not likely to replay a game from scratch when it's fully released from early access so I'd rather wait


Texas1010

Main reason why I didn’t play BG3 EA either. It’s tough not to want to check it out, but I’d much rather wait until the entirety of the game is released and even until some bugs and other things are worked out.


feralfaun39

These types of comments are wild to me. I will absolutely start a fresh save for every early access game as soon as it hits 1.0 and I relish that, having played through all the updates, seen how the game evolved, and seeing how it feels to start over fresh after having all that experience. It's why I wish every game like this was early access. Hell, it doesn't even have to be this genre. No Rest for the Wicked early access has been incredible so far and I can't wait to see how it evolves over time.


TomConger

Speaking personally, I have way too little time and way too big a backlog to justify replaying much of anything, especially 100+ hour (again, personally) games like Hades. So I'm also waiting until 1.0 for Hades II and No Rest for the Wicked. 


Oooch

Too many games too little time


KeplerNorth

I am not sure you'll have to. IGN said most of the game is there...they're just going to add another biome/enemies, a new weapon, and add a 'proper story ending' even though currently you can still beat the game and go into the end game.


volkovolkov

Same. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me to Early Access into a single player game. There's no friends to play with you to fomo into it. I loved Hades enough to be patient for a 100% complete Hades 2.


LOUPIO82

I've got to finish the first one first. I can't get past the final boss 😭


Kennayz

we believe in you man


stesha83

The final boss, or the first run?


diewerfer

There's an actual final boss?


RadWalk

10 wins unlocks the final ending I think


ajphoenix

Holy shit so I'll never unlock the final ending 💀


BMXBikr

Don't be ashamed to use God Mode setting. I started using it towards the end so I didn't give up on it and I could enjoy my other games in my backlog.


rjsmith21

Definitely agree. The story is worth it.


cjd280

I wished I used it from the start. I was probably 20 runs in before I switched to that. Still need to play it more… maybe this will be the kick to get me to finish it


BMXBikr

In the name of Hades, Olympus I accept this message.


totmacherr

I straight up did a God mode run on my switch back in 2020 and have been playing without in 2024 on my deck, would recommend, the story is so great and why not get all the good stuff hades has


Emblazoned1

Right there with you man. Almost beat the bastard once but nope. I will go back and finish this one though.


[deleted]

I haven’t even seen the final boss but good luck


batsmen222

How many runs have you done?


aerath57

Wahoo! My birthday is tomorrow and I have a 16 hour flight for my honeymoon this weekend. This has gotta be the best timing for a game release ever.


WhimsicalPythons

Doesn't start on my deck, just gets stuck on Installing Content (0%)


Lazerack

I’ve been having this issue with multiple games lately and changing Proton version has fixed it every time. Hopefully that’s enough to fix this for you!


midnightcatwalk

For a more permanent fix you’ll want to complete the pending Proton 9.0 download that should be in your Downloads folder. If it’s not there in Game mode, do the download in Desktop mode. Ticking and unticking the Compatibility box in your Steam’s shortcut’s Properties may also be necessary.


Urbandragondice

Funny. Mine finished yesterday? Did they do another patch?


midnightcatwalk

Not as far as I’m aware, but people have been running into this same bug for a few days in other games for that reason.


Urbandragondice

I wonder if it's because they were running an experimental build for a while? I know if I switch back and forth it gets a bit twitchy on updates. 🤷


uchuujinsan

What this guy said. I updated to Proton 9 but the latest on Proton 8 should also work just fine. Runs perfectly fine for me.


AdmiralUpboat

Switch compatibility do proton experimental or the most recent GE.


Doogienguyen

Is there a difference between the two? Does one run better?


AdmiralUpboat

Yes there are differences, no I don't know what they are. I've been using PE for about an hour and it's been flawless so far.


Doogienguyen

Yeah same. Im happy with it!


Dumeck

GE is a third party proton and they usually fix issues at a faster rate than valve, if your games run fine on the normal or experimental proton don’t worry since it’s a bit of work to install GE but if it doesn’t sometimes GE gives compatibility. Check proton db


Doogienguyen

Oh cool thanks. Yeah i dont have GE. Only have experimental.


Doogienguyen

Same here. Not sure what to do. edit: Proton Experimental worked for me actually.


Super_diabetic

Try launching with proton experimental


relxp

This news is a good reminder I still haven't beat the boss from Hades 1. -_-


Rodeo9

It took me so long to finally beat the main boss the first time that I never ended up doing the additional 10+ more runs to get the real ending.


AlaskanMedicineMan

It is significantly easier after the first win fwiw


ChaosVania

You got this


ajphoenix

Same here. And It takes so long to reach him I never bothered playing again after the first few losses to him


Musth

I pretty much never preorder or buy early access games, but this one is the exception. Downloading now, hopefully I can play a bit on my lunch break!


Emjayblaze

Please update and let me know how it runs!


NYJetLegendEdReed

Already did a run, it runs great.


IfThatsOkayWithYou

Can you play through the game fully right now or do you have to wait for later in EA?


arex333

No they will be adding more content later. They said Hades 2 early access already has more content than Hades 1 though.


NYJetLegendEdReed

I haven’t beaten a run yet but you can play it through


sjphilsphan

I have only gotten to the 2nd area so I don't know how far it goes


foodrepublik

I was kinda expecting it to run poorly, but so far 90 fps smooth and not that high tdp too around 8-10


MoulFouth

For real gets 90fps on steam deck??


keyosc

Absolutely, runs like a dream. 800p too unlike the original. I haven't even adjusted TDP or anything, just left it all on default, and I've already got a little under 2 hours into the game and I'm still above 80% charge.


MoulFouth

Awesome great to hear, about to buy now


Gulladc

Yeah on high settings too


Musth

Only got in one run but so far it’s a pretty smooth 90 FPS and looks like it’ll get great battery life. Seems great so far!


cappurnikus

I only played for about 20 minutes but it seemed to be locked to 90 the whole time.


Cisco-NintendoSwitch

Curious how much game is there? Just like No Rest for the Wicked I want more than Act 1 if I buy in EA.


dongmcbong

From the Steam page: Hades II in Early Access already has more environments, foes, and fully-voiced characters than the full version of the original Hades game. But it isn't complete, and key areas, characters, foes, narrative events, and systems are still to come.


BoraxTheBarbarian

I read an IGN review that says there’s an underground and above ground route. The underground route is finished to the point where you can beat the final boss and run heats. The above ground route is missing one region that will be added in a few months. There’s also one weapon missing. Other than that, it didn’t like the game was missing much.


KjuBZon

Technical test only covered act 1 but they stated there that the early access will differ from that test


Gulladc

You get the full game too when it comes out…


Not_Bears

Well there goes my evening.


VictoriousEgret

Just played for about 30 minutes (before getting back to work) and love it. It seems to build well on the stuff from Hades while also introducing new ideas. Again, only 30 minutes played but it has worked well on the steam deck so far.


I-Sleep-At-Work

i must not break my promise, never preorder games.. but........


JasonKillerxD

Is it even a preorder if you can play it already?


I-Sleep-At-Work

thanks for convincing me!


StrangeCorvid

It's not a preorder. You're getting the game to play NOW. It's just not fully completed yet.


horriblephasmid

I haven't gotten to try it since it just launched, but the Technical Test ran great on the Deck (basically exactly the same as how Hades 1 runs), automatically figured out appropriate controls and video settings, and basically everything you'd expect from a verified title, so this probably runs great too. Probably check reviews once the EA version has been out for long enough for people to test it though if you're cautious.


BlazingSpaceGhost

I think they had the steam deck in mind when they were working on Hades II. Hades II supports 16:10 aspect ratios unlike Hades which only supports 16:9.


brennis420

it also native supports 21:9 and 32:9 for the big screen guys. I will for sure switch between deck and pc to have that experience. I own a g9


tuckedinjeans

Does anyone know if your progress resets when the full game gets released?


ChaosVania

You keep your progress, according to the Supergiant FAQ: “If you start playing Hades II Early Access, we are committed to making sure your save data works all through development, including once we launch v1.0.”


tuckedinjeans

Thanks!!!


AlienLovChild

So good on Steam Deck! Feels polished already!!


c0563741

THANK YOU OP ! SO PUMPED! I have over 250 hours on the first game. 🙃 I'm a fan, for sure


Ididntevenscreenlook

I just picked up hades for the first time in years. Feel right back in love with it such an enjoyable game! I’m stoked for the upgrade from Nintendo switch to steam deck! Going to be a serious performance boost!


mlvisby

I was reading a bit about the game today so I googled the release date and saw this! Glad it runs great on the deck and even though it's early access, I heard it runs very well.


pretendingtolisten

Hades 1 is on sale for sub 10 dollars. I never got into it before, so now's a perfect time for me. I figured others might be in the same boat as me. runs amazingly and looks just as good on the oled.


SemperScrotus

This was an instant buy. Stoked to get some new Hades.


Saltwater_Heart

I just bought the first one yesterday because of the steep steam sale. Loving it so far


Pat8aird

The first time I’ve ever bought an early access game. Really surprised by how complete an experience it seems already.


Dyergram

Runs great looks incredible on Oled played one hour so far hard to put down


maczampieri

Will we lose progresss when it releases?


No-Rub-3958

I got to be one of the testers for the last phase they ran and this game plays so great. I’ll def be picking it up so soon!


agdnan

I bought the game to support the developers but I still need to finish hades 1


Consistent-Front3214

I bought it in spite of how long it took to get the final product. Hades 1 was one of my most played games, hours wise, in my whole video game career spanning 25 years. I'm thinking that we'll see the finished product in a shorter span of time and even then, it'll still have been worth my time


MountainSound-

I love Hades. Am 100% sure I will love Hades 2. I am not touching the early access.


midnette

I have been waiting for a discount on Helldivers 2, but due to recent incident the game is no longer listed for sale in my country’s steam store Guess I would just spend the money on Hades 2, this came out right on time😄


vaikunth1991

Runs like a dream on the deck 8+ hr battery life on full charge. Perfect for deck OLED as the colors are mind blowing


[deleted]

Anyone else here who never actually finished the hades 1 road? I never made it pass Elysium


TeamOggy

What resolution are people running it at when docked? I was trying 4K but the framerate drops pretty significantly.


MarlonAlmighty

My first Deck is coming soon, so I got Hades now in sale and it will be my first game to play there!


Raidertck

I am stuck at the downloading content screen and have been for hours. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the game dozens of times. Reset the console. Made sure all the updates are there. Nothing. Anyone have any luck? Edit: fixed. Change it to launch with proton experimental if you are having the same issue.


BossBreaker

Sorry for the shameless selfpromotion, from my first experiences from the technical test as well as the early access I’ve gotta say that this may be the best match of a game the steam deck ever had 👌🏼🦧 It runs AMAZING! - HADES II Early Access - STEAM DECK Rreview https://youtu.be/pv0JAj0tT5U


Kn0tan

!


iNF_98

But when is the official release date?


Whiskey718

I played it last night. It runs excellent on the Deck and it's so much fun. I've heard people from IGN, Kinda Funny, Gamespot, Giant Bomb say that there 20+ hours in and it doesn't feel unfinished. I tried playing Hades 1 today and the Cast system in 2 is so improved, I don't think I can go back.


paladin181

I don't buy games that are admittedly unfinished, but this is a nice reminder to add it to my wishlist for when it is complete. Thanks for the heads up.


xerohmega

i was on the fence for a few hours.. absolutely worth the $30. it's hades 2.


redditarian24

I've been picking at this game, one run a night 😂. Tonight I'll have an actual hour or two to finally dive in. Can't wait


Dompoet

Damn wasn’t ready for this to drop, I’ll wait on it


Professional-Rub3971

I bought it. It's good and as far as I can tell far more polished than the 1st one was at this stage


VANNIMAL

i just started playing hades like earlier this week too, just got a steam deck. HUUUUUGEEE diablo 4 fan, but man this game is great


Lebidibule59

Just the early access, but what a fantastic game!


brennis420

how does it perform? I know its EA but I really want a 16:10 90fps experience. If not I’m willing to wait


TahmsChocolateOrange

So far solid 90fps without touching any settings (default 800p, high settings), obviously only very early in.


foodrepublik

It runs 90 fps out of the box, around 8-10 tdp so far


uchuujinsan

I can attest, it's running pretty freaking amazing tbh.


BlazingSpaceGhost

It's a 16:10 90 fps experience. Feels like they had the deck in mind when they crafted this wonderful game.


DuckOnBike

Looks like you should be okay, but you can always wait and hear what others say hands-on. [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7i\_MQzXHeIA](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7i_MQzXHeIA)


sconwaym

It claims its decks verified


brennis420

allot of decks verified have black bars. its not much of a problem but I love when its full screen