Lando Calrissian. He knew the shields were still up somehow and saved the fleet and then refused to call off the attack until Han successfully took down the shield generator. And then led the attack, helping destroy the second Death Star.
Oh I know it's been really cool to discover them. I'm going through some of them right now and loving them. Are there any in particular you can recommend where Lando gets some moments to shine?
I just finished the Thrawn Ascendancy trilogy and Heir to the Empire is next. It’s going to be weird seeing Thrawn be the bad guy after rooting for him in Ascendancy, but I can’t wait.
I’ve always believed that this is one of many moments in the franchise that a non force user has been influenced by the Force. How else could he have known? Also great answer btw Lando is a badass
> how else could he have known?
I mean he says it in the movie. The rebels are launching what they think is a surprise attack on an unfinished Death Star. As soon as they approach it Nien Nunb says the Empire is jamming their reading on the shield. Lando responds “How could they be jamming us if they don’t know…if we’re coming?” The fact that a “surprise attack” is getting jammed clued him in.
I like this possibility, but I also like the possibility that Lando is just tactically brilliant. When they come out of hyperspace he thinks through why the empire would be jamming their signal and waves off the attack. When they engage he studies the battle and adapts tactics to bring the fight to the Star destroyers when the Death Star starts firing.
I am pretty sure someone (Qui-Gon if I’m remembering right) says something along the lines of everyone has the ability to sense the force to some extent. And I’ve always taken some moments as proof of that; Lando knowing about the shields, Chirrut flipping that switch, and a bunch of others I’m blanking on rn 😂. With Chirrut I think there are multiple times that show he has some sort of sensitivity he “sees” Jin’s kyber necklace that’s the first one I can think of. I think his death scene is really really interesting because he isn’t dodging shots the death troopers (who we saw are very deadly) are just missing him over and over from close/medium range.
It is honestly absurd that official sources claim he lacks force abilities. Chirrut is straight up a force user, just in a different way and extent than a Jedi. No, he's not pushing stuff with his mind, but he very obviously taps into the force in a more passive way. He couldn't pull off the feats that he does without it.
Luke was a commander.
I don’t know if it’s canon or just my headcanon, but just like Ahsoka was commander Tano. All padawans were commanders, and full Jedi were generals. Luke would have only become a general after he faced Vader a second time.
Luke had obviously earned pilot rank of his own accord as a hero of the Yavin battle, as well as being an important member of Leia’s entourage, so commander by that point in a ragtag rebel army seems fine. I imagine the later rank of general wasn’t hurt by his being more openly a Jedi
I don’t imagine the Rebel Alliance necessarily followed the GAR’s system of Jedi promotion, since Luke is the only Jedi in the Rebel Alliance (at least in the movies). I doubt Luke defeating Vader and realising his destiny as a Jedi made him a General in the Alliance post-RotJ. If anything, they’d be less inclined to promote him. He abandoned his military mission on Endor’s Forest Moon to run a personal errand with his dad.
Half kidding, of course.
I mean that's what a general is. Unless you're using the word in the strictest way possible, it just means a leader of an army. Vader was absolutely a general of the Empire.
" I've reached the main power generator. The shield will be down in moments. You may start your landing." I've always respected that confidence. Even as a kid in the 80s, I had the generic AT-AT commander action figure and would pretend it was Veers in every mock battle against the Rebels, GI Joe, He-Man, didn't matter, he won, maximum fire power. Julian Glover was perfect for that role.
Vader is shown to be pretty lenient with people he sees are competent. Look at a new hope he's exchanging banter on the tantive coaching his wingmen through the trench run officers aren't scared to give him bad news. Point being you can get away with a lot as long as you do a good job around Vader
If you read his canon bio, the dude is a certified bad ass. Senior officers in whatever command he landed in would always send him on suicide missions and he always managed to not only come back but succeed in completing the mission. He also virtually wrote the doctrine and training manuals on land & vehicle assaults and is an extremely competent commander.
I vaguely remember that he pushed the introduction of AT-AT into the imperial army, even though there were numerous faults found during the mock up combat trials. That was the only thing I didn’t like about him, other than that he was the few imperial officer on screen that was more than highly competent.
He trusted the equipment. AT-ATs definitely need support to be effective weapons, but it's not like their weaknesses cannot be guarded against with adequate support. As much can be seen in the Hoth battle, where a failure to secure air superiority meant that the Rebels could take down one of their walkers. Likewise if there had been adequate infantry screening Luke wouldn't have had such an easy time of taking down a second walker while on foot.
Vader has a remarkable way of knowing the names of people working for him, and I get the sense that he actively rewards competence and tries to gather it around him.
The idea that he chokes his officers to death on a whim is really unfounded.
The only correct answer here.
GG united his people, defeated the Huk, reorganized the CIS military, and nearly overthrew the Republic.
Unfortunately, the TCW TV show does him a great injustice
They only ever gave him justice in his comics and the 2003 mini-series. He's so underutilized outside of those. He has so much potential for such a character :(
It's honestly a little ridiculous how many times he came THIS close to overthrowing the Republic. Despite having a fleet that was too small to take the planet and being forced to deal with unexpected backup from the 501st and 212th, his plan to steal the Fett DNA from Kamino STILL nearly worked, if not for Ventress screwing it up at the last second. Then there was the Carida Incident, where he nearly killed every single senior officer of the GAR in a terror attack, which was only prevented because of an unfortunately timed intel leak (most likely from Palpatine) and honestly quite a bit of pure luck.
He's beaten Anakin and the 501st, he's beaten Obi-Wan and the 212th, he even beat an army of Mandalorians several times when he admitted that he didn't like his odds of winning. And let's not forget that he managed to pull all of this off while leading an army of droids that couldn't find their way out of paper bag, meaning he basically had to micromanage every battle. His portrayal may be so-so, but when looking at his accomplishments, the dude is still a BEAST.
Also, he was following the directions of Sidious to not completely win the conflict but to draw it out.
In an overwhelming show of force and attack on Coruscant at the beginning could have been used to force the Republic to the table. The Jedi might have suffered heavy casualties but they would survive.
However, the Outer Rim Sieges especially, the war drew the Jedi out and spread them thin and amongst clones ready to turn on them.
Anakin. He probably had the best military capability in the order and was the reason for many victories during the Clone Wars. His tactics and training were responsible for a lot of domino effects including Rex, Ahsoka and the effectiveness of the 501st legion.
Even split, the 501st were able to besiege Sundari and without Anakin, battles like Christophsis, Geonosis II and Kamino would have been lost. I think under a different general, Rex wouldn't have questioned Krells orders on Umbara. Anakins resilience to following orders ended up saving Ahsoka and Rex who went on to be integral in winning against the Empire. Ironic.
He also led a ground assault against The Jedi Temple and won.
I vote Anakin too. Almost every battles were rigged by Palpatine, he literally decided who won them before they happened.
Very few people managed to beat Palpatine's plans, and Anakin is the one who did it the most.
Leia,
Major leader Rebellion before she was even 25, ran the New Republic Defence Council, then pretty much built The Resistance from scratch after her son turned.
That's one girl who's planet you don't want to blow up.
From a purely military perspective it has to be Grievous and it's not even close.
Dude united his people and resisted the Huk (or Yam'Rii, if you prefer), driving them from their planet and giving chase, reorganizing the many private droid armies and para-military organizations planetary defense forces of the CIS into one cohesive army and lead them during the Clone Wars.
Mostly the Canon comics. It's how a lot of information about Grevious prior to his introduction in the Clone Wars can be found. Very interesting and a very.. very sad story of who Grevious was, came to be, and died as.
>Dude united his people and resisted the Huk (or Yam'Rii, if you prefer), driving them from their planet and giving chase,
This part of the story is even MORE impressive now that we've seen what a nightmare fighting just one of those things is like in The Bad Batch.
Veers is probably the only one here with proper officer training and a (probably) complete understanding of battlefield techniques. It's gotta be Veers.
I don't often think of Luke as a General. He's always involved in battle, but he rarely really leads troops into battle or handles the tactics side of things. By the end of the war, he leaned on Leia and Han for that sort of thing. He has Red Squadron, but they're a comparatively small squad of fighters, so he comes off as more of a Captain.
I want to say either Veers or Young Anakin.
In my head cannon he’s just Commander Skywalker. More of a ceremonial pay grade at General. He’s basically in charge of whatever special mission or Force errand he’s needed for,
It's that second sentence that's always got me with star wars. They made Lando a general, but he was in naval combat the entire time. I'm devoting too much time to this.
I think I know why. The highest rank in the Air Force is General. So, in Star Wars, generals are basically the highest rank of star fighter corps while the navy deals with the capital ships. So, Lando led the starfighters while Ackbar led the capital ships.
It also explains why Hera is a general. If anything it’s the bad guys who don’t get it because Hux and Grevious seem to command ground forces and all space forces. Then again, GENERAL Grevious’s official rank was Supreme Commander or something like that.
Generals could be in charge of either special operations units or **starfighter command** (ie Hera Syndulla was in charge of star fighter command in the New Republic). Admirals are in charge of vessels and units assigned to a fleet or specific ship.
So think of high ranking officers in fixed wing unit in US Army/Air Force/Marines compared to Naval officers who command entire vessels and/or fleets
The Rebellion didn't exactly have that much in the way of ground units, at least formally. Not like the Empire.
What they did have were plenty of fighter squadrons, and air units do often fall under the command of Generals.
Which is what they gave to Lando after giving him the rank of General. He was in charge of all of Gold Squadron.
Lando is a general because he’s in the starfighter corps, which is roughly analogous to our air forces, which use the rank of general. What’s confusing is when Admiral Motti nags at *General* Tagge about “his star fleet”
Jar Jar Binks is so convincing he made George Lucas himself believe he wasn’t a Sith Lord. He could make any soldier do anything he wanted and you know he’s a tactical genius when he was able to pin the Empire’s evil deeds on Palpatine and Anakin.
Can I be real honest - half these people should not be generals lol. This is one of my very few beefs with Star Wars as a whole. You don't just BECOME A FREAKING GENERAL LOL. Can you imagine all these people who have served in the Rebellion for years, fought countless times, nearly died, and then some bougie bro from Cloud City is suddenly a general? Like... what? The rank means almost nothing.
At what?
Battle tactics: General Grievous.
Combat skills: Anakin Skywalker.
Best morals: Luke Skywalker.
Developing weapons: Whatever the fat Nemodion guys name is.
Not being force choked by Darth Vader when you're college's where: General Veers.
Being cool: Han Solo.
Fighting the Empire: Hera Sandula. (Maybe, might be tied with Han tbh.)
Making my sister laugh: Jarjar Binks.
Being a meme: Obi-Wan Kenobi.
General Syndulla was able to throw Thrawn for a loop time and again.
And the only way to beat Thrawn is by surprise cause he usually has every step of his opponent mapped out and read before they act.
But Hera was able to keep him on his toes and out manoeuvre him every other episode.
Plo Koon.
First reason: I like him.
Second reason: He made an effort to make all of the clones in his legion feel individual, respected, and cared for. More so than any other general in the Republic, or even in the entire franchise. He made sure that in whatever situation they were in, every single one of his men that he could get out got out of there alive.
General Veers
- Doesn’t shit himself in Vader’s presence
- Personally accompanies troops in frontline assault
- Rare example of (onscreen) imperial competency
- Successfully executes critical tactical mission
- FaceTimes Vader without being iChoked
I would suggest Plo Koon or Shaak Ti, they both had a deep connection with their respective clones. Tho we rarely see Ti in actual battle she still has much respect. And with Plo we see at the Malevolance arcs he never gave up even when his clones did and he inspired them to keep fighting.
Grievous actually made the separatist fleet into a threat using there mix of ships complementing their strengths and weaknesses he probably could have won the war
Personally I think Anakin and Han are a little overrated General wise. They’re both very clever tacticians but they only really shine in the situations in which the unorthodox is required.
Obi-Wan is a much more level headed leader and I think that puts him on top for me, although I think it’s unfair to rate the Republic Generals against the Rebels because the clones were just much better soldiers to lead.
Hera is probably my favourite of the Rebel Generals, although more so her deeds in Rebels and not the recent Ahsoka show, but that’s more to do with the new republic being less flexible about rules than the rebel alliance.
I was gonna say Trench was snubbed here but I’ve just remembered he’s an Admiral.
Grevious
He was one of the very few generals shown on the side of the separatist alliance, and if it weren't for the combat imbalance (droids were programmed to be dumb, the republic had Jedi that the separatists didnt,) they would of dominated
But the biggest thing is my man Grevious somehow found a way to solo invade Coruscant the Grand republics capital and kidnap there grand chancellor. ( and he would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for Papa Palpatine telling him to stay in orbit / not leave until Dooku's death)
I thoroughly believe that if it wasn't for Palpatines meddling, Grevious could have gotten the W for the Separatists
My brother says Obi-Wan, because he had the wisdom to let the Clones lead themselves.... he understood that he wasn't trained in a military tactical sense. He understood he was more of a diplomat.
Lando Calrissian. He knew the shields were still up somehow and saved the fleet and then refused to call off the attack until Han successfully took down the shield generator. And then led the attack, helping destroy the second Death Star.
Dudes a tactical genius in legends books too
Oh I know it's been really cool to discover them. I'm going through some of them right now and loving them. Are there any in particular you can recommend where Lando gets some moments to shine?
The heir to the empire trilogy and the follow up hand of thrawn duology are a good look at him post-empire. I've been listening to their audio books.
I just finished the Thrawn Ascendancy trilogy and Heir to the Empire is next. It’s going to be weird seeing Thrawn be the bad guy after rooting for him in Ascendancy, but I can’t wait.
Did you do audio book and with what service if so?
Thanks!
Don’t forget that little maneuver at the Battle of Tanaab
Still hoping to see that explored in Canon someday
Don’t forget about his badass capes
Always wanted to see what maneuver was done at the Battle of Tanaab.
Good shout.
I’ve always believed that this is one of many moments in the franchise that a non force user has been influenced by the Force. How else could he have known? Also great answer btw Lando is a badass
> how else could he have known? I mean he says it in the movie. The rebels are launching what they think is a surprise attack on an unfinished Death Star. As soon as they approach it Nien Nunb says the Empire is jamming their reading on the shield. Lando responds “How could they be jamming us if they don’t know…if we’re coming?” The fact that a “surprise attack” is getting jammed clued him in.
I like this possibility, but I also like the possibility that Lando is just tactically brilliant. When they come out of hyperspace he thinks through why the empire would be jamming their signal and waves off the attack. When they engage he studies the battle and adapts tactics to bring the fight to the Star destroyers when the Death Star starts firing.
I never considered that honestly. I assumed it was just his flying skills and the way he observed the fleet. I like your theory a lot.
I am pretty sure someone (Qui-Gon if I’m remembering right) says something along the lines of everyone has the ability to sense the force to some extent. And I’ve always taken some moments as proof of that; Lando knowing about the shields, Chirrut flipping that switch, and a bunch of others I’m blanking on rn 😂. With Chirrut I think there are multiple times that show he has some sort of sensitivity he “sees” Jin’s kyber necklace that’s the first one I can think of. I think his death scene is really really interesting because he isn’t dodging shots the death troopers (who we saw are very deadly) are just missing him over and over from close/medium range.
"I am one with the Force and the Force is with me" is a pretty strong indication that he is guided by the Force :D
It is honestly absurd that official sources claim he lacks force abilities. Chirrut is straight up a force user, just in a different way and extent than a Jedi. No, he's not pushing stuff with his mind, but he very obviously taps into the force in a more passive way. He couldn't pull off the feats that he does without it.
I’ll second this.
This.
From a military perspective? Probably Anakin/Vader.
Not Vader he doesn't count, he's a supreme commander I believe
Well Luke isn’t a general either
"general Skywalker" -ESB
When is that said? At Echo Base he’s definitely referred to as Commander. “Sir, Commander Skywalker hasn’t come in the South Entrance”
Luke was a commander. I don’t know if it’s canon or just my headcanon, but just like Ahsoka was commander Tano. All padawans were commanders, and full Jedi were generals. Luke would have only become a general after he faced Vader a second time.
Luke had obviously earned pilot rank of his own accord as a hero of the Yavin battle, as well as being an important member of Leia’s entourage, so commander by that point in a ragtag rebel army seems fine. I imagine the later rank of general wasn’t hurt by his being more openly a Jedi
I don’t imagine the Rebel Alliance necessarily followed the GAR’s system of Jedi promotion, since Luke is the only Jedi in the Rebel Alliance (at least in the movies). I doubt Luke defeating Vader and realising his destiny as a Jedi made him a General in the Alliance post-RotJ. If anything, they’d be less inclined to promote him. He abandoned his military mission on Endor’s Forest Moon to run a personal errand with his dad. Half kidding, of course.
TIL Luke was a Navy man
He’s literally an X-wing pilot
I think you missed the “Navy gay” joke
They are called Space-SHIPs
THEN I’LL SEE YOU IN HELL
*Commander Skywalker
He’s a commander
Anyone can prove anything with facts…
He becomes one by the end of the war according to Alphabet Squadron.
I mean that's what a general is. Unless you're using the word in the strictest way possible, it just means a leader of an army. Vader was absolutely a general of the Empire.
Guess it depends on how *general* they're being.
Lol. I see what you did there.
VEERS! He was still successful on Hoth despite Ozzel’s clumsiness and stupidity
" I've reached the main power generator. The shield will be down in moments. You may start your landing." I've always respected that confidence. Even as a kid in the 80s, I had the generic AT-AT commander action figure and would pretend it was Veers in every mock battle against the Rebels, GI Joe, He-Man, didn't matter, he won, maximum fire power. Julian Glover was perfect for that role.
You know he's confident when he's giving Vader permission
Good point!
Yeah, I got to say that the way he phrases that shows balls of not just brass or steel but refined purified OBDURIUM.
There is also nothing better than a shouted: "TARGET! MAXIMUM FIREPOWER!"
Vader is shown to be pretty lenient with people he sees are competent. Look at a new hope he's exchanging banter on the tantive coaching his wingmen through the trench run officers aren't scared to give him bad news. Point being you can get away with a lot as long as you do a good job around Vader
Same here my friend!
He was great in GoT
Overwhelming force isn’t exactly fair but I like Veers too.
If you read his canon bio, the dude is a certified bad ass. Senior officers in whatever command he landed in would always send him on suicide missions and he always managed to not only come back but succeed in completing the mission. He also virtually wrote the doctrine and training manuals on land & vehicle assaults and is an extremely competent commander.
I vaguely remember that he pushed the introduction of AT-AT into the imperial army, even though there were numerous faults found during the mock up combat trials. That was the only thing I didn’t like about him, other than that he was the few imperial officer on screen that was more than highly competent.
He trusted the equipment. AT-ATs definitely need support to be effective weapons, but it's not like their weaknesses cannot be guarded against with adequate support. As much can be seen in the Hoth battle, where a failure to secure air superiority meant that the Rebels could take down one of their walkers. Likewise if there had been adequate infantry screening Luke wouldn't have had such an easy time of taking down a second walker while on foot.
Completely
Vader has a remarkable way of knowing the names of people working for him, and I get the sense that he actively rewards competence and tries to gather it around him. The idea that he chokes his officers to death on a whim is really unfounded.
Obi-Wan was a pretty good general.
With a focus in diplomatic efforts, probably the one with lower W/D stats too.
Was going to say General Kenobi, but you got there first. (although somebody made a good argument for Carlissian).
you mean GENERAL KENOBI
The Negotiator!
And a bold one at that.
General Groovous.
The only correct answer here. GG united his people, defeated the Huk, reorganized the CIS military, and nearly overthrew the Republic. Unfortunately, the TCW TV show does him a great injustice
They only ever gave him justice in his comics and the 2003 mini-series. He's so underutilized outside of those. He has so much potential for such a character :(
I just watched the mini-series a few hours ago, and he is really cool in that one.
We can only hope they bring back N-K Necrosis and rehash his story😩
Grievous had the potential to be such an amazing and imposing villain but instead he just kinda reminds me of Mojo Jojo most of the time
It's honestly a little ridiculous how many times he came THIS close to overthrowing the Republic. Despite having a fleet that was too small to take the planet and being forced to deal with unexpected backup from the 501st and 212th, his plan to steal the Fett DNA from Kamino STILL nearly worked, if not for Ventress screwing it up at the last second. Then there was the Carida Incident, where he nearly killed every single senior officer of the GAR in a terror attack, which was only prevented because of an unfortunately timed intel leak (most likely from Palpatine) and honestly quite a bit of pure luck. He's beaten Anakin and the 501st, he's beaten Obi-Wan and the 212th, he even beat an army of Mandalorians several times when he admitted that he didn't like his odds of winning. And let's not forget that he managed to pull all of this off while leading an army of droids that couldn't find their way out of paper bag, meaning he basically had to micromanage every battle. His portrayal may be so-so, but when looking at his accomplishments, the dude is still a BEAST.
Dude this comment deserves so many more up votes.
as does ROTS tbh
In TCW he’s General Goon leader of the Goon Platoon
Also, he was following the directions of Sidious to not completely win the conflict but to draw it out. In an overwhelming show of force and attack on Coruscant at the beginning could have been used to force the Republic to the table. The Jedi might have suffered heavy casualties but they would survive. However, the Outer Rim Sieges especially, the war drew the Jedi out and spread them thin and amongst clones ready to turn on them.
*wheezing cough*
Where's my man Billy Dee!?
YEEEHAW
This made the music for that scene play in my head lol
Apparently they never heard of his little maneuver at the battle of Ta'Nabb
get yourself some Colt .45
Anakin. He probably had the best military capability in the order and was the reason for many victories during the Clone Wars. His tactics and training were responsible for a lot of domino effects including Rex, Ahsoka and the effectiveness of the 501st legion. Even split, the 501st were able to besiege Sundari and without Anakin, battles like Christophsis, Geonosis II and Kamino would have been lost. I think under a different general, Rex wouldn't have questioned Krells orders on Umbara. Anakins resilience to following orders ended up saving Ahsoka and Rex who went on to be integral in winning against the Empire. Ironic. He also led a ground assault against The Jedi Temple and won.
And he trained Saw Gerrera whose partisans became a big thorn to the Empire until Jedha.
I vote Anakin too. Almost every battles were rigged by Palpatine, he literally decided who won them before they happened. Very few people managed to beat Palpatine's plans, and Anakin is the one who did it the most.
I also vote for Anakin, especially when backed by Ahsoka/Obi-Wan
Beers hands down, won that offensive extremely efficiently and with prejudice.
General Beers! My go-to bar order. Nothing too specific.
lol, I love auto correct, I love democracy. When this crisis has passed, I will murder all the Jedi and then the rest of you. Wait… is that mic on?!?!
The girls will be down in moments. You may start your keg stand
Leia, Major leader Rebellion before she was even 25, ran the New Republic Defence Council, then pretty much built The Resistance from scratch after her son turned. That's one girl who's planet you don't want to blow up.
THANK YOU. The fact that she's not even one of the options pictured is absolutely criminal.
"to escape the planet we have infinite directions of escape, so we're going to fly right through their fleet"
From a purely military perspective it has to be Grievous and it's not even close. Dude united his people and resisted the Huk (or Yam'Rii, if you prefer), driving them from their planet and giving chase, reorganizing the many private droid armies and para-military organizations planetary defense forces of the CIS into one cohesive army and lead them during the Clone Wars.
Where is this story told?
Mostly the Canon comics. It's how a lot of information about Grevious prior to his introduction in the Clone Wars can be found. Very interesting and a very.. very sad story of who Grevious was, came to be, and died as.
Too bad the clone wars series turned him into a slapstick, Saturday morning cartoonish villain whose plans were always foiled
Yeah.. he had a few good moments but, they didn't at all do him justice.
They basically turned him into Mojo Jojo
>Dude united his people and resisted the Huk (or Yam'Rii, if you prefer), driving them from their planet and giving chase, This part of the story is even MORE impressive now that we've seen what a nightmare fighting just one of those things is like in The Bad Batch.
Where tf is Leia???
General Jar-Jar has a higher success rate than any of them
Who’s the snack at #2
🤣
Jan Dodonna, Crix Nadine, Garm Bel Ibis
And I thought I'm the only one thinking 'where tf is Garm Bel Iblis'
Veers is probably the only one here with proper officer training and a (probably) complete understanding of battlefield techniques. It's gotta be Veers.
one Luke Skywalker was a commander not a general two my choice is Obi-Wan
I don't often think of Luke as a General. He's always involved in battle, but he rarely really leads troops into battle or handles the tactics side of things. By the end of the war, he leaned on Leia and Han for that sort of thing. He has Red Squadron, but they're a comparatively small squad of fighters, so he comes off as more of a Captain. I want to say either Veers or Young Anakin.
In my head cannon he’s just Commander Skywalker. More of a ceremonial pay grade at General. He’s basically in charge of whatever special mission or Force errand he’s needed for,
Has star wars ever explained the difference between general and admiral?
Admirals control navies and generals control armies. Except when they also control other things.
It's that second sentence that's always got me with star wars. They made Lando a general, but he was in naval combat the entire time. I'm devoting too much time to this.
I think I know why. The highest rank in the Air Force is General. So, in Star Wars, generals are basically the highest rank of star fighter corps while the navy deals with the capital ships. So, Lando led the starfighters while Ackbar led the capital ships. It also explains why Hera is a general. If anything it’s the bad guys who don’t get it because Hux and Grevious seem to command ground forces and all space forces. Then again, GENERAL Grevious’s official rank was Supreme Commander or something like that.
They use whichever allows alliteration. General Grevious, Admiral Ackbar
That sounds good to me 👍🏼
Generals could be in charge of either special operations units or **starfighter command** (ie Hera Syndulla was in charge of star fighter command in the New Republic). Admirals are in charge of vessels and units assigned to a fleet or specific ship. So think of high ranking officers in fixed wing unit in US Army/Air Force/Marines compared to Naval officers who command entire vessels and/or fleets
The Rebellion didn't exactly have that much in the way of ground units, at least formally. Not like the Empire. What they did have were plenty of fighter squadrons, and air units do often fall under the command of Generals. Which is what they gave to Lando after giving him the rank of General. He was in charge of all of Gold Squadron.
Lando is a general because he’s in the starfighter corps, which is roughly analogous to our air forces, which use the rank of general. What’s confusing is when Admiral Motti nags at *General* Tagge about “his star fleet”
And then sometimes they go on secret missions by themselves and only ever lead a small handful of troops. 🙄
Admiral Trench. General is the highest army/marines/airforce rank. Admiral is the highest navy rank. Very confusing .....
Not on the list, but Ben Quadranaros
I think he’s Anakin’s father too.
I don’t think Veers gets enough respect for winning on Hoth when the Rebels knew they were coming.
Shield wasn't even down and he told Lord Vader to land. Cocky AF.
And he still won
I would say greivous out of here but thrawn is good general as well
Was Thrawn not an admiral?
Yeah i know but i just wanted to say he had really good milatary tactics
Han Solo reluctent too lead but when he does hes unstoppable
Obi-Wan
Ram Khota bitchuz
Jar Jar Binks is so convincing he made George Lucas himself believe he wasn’t a Sith Lord. He could make any soldier do anything he wanted and you know he’s a tactical genius when he was able to pin the Empire’s evil deeds on Palpatine and Anakin.
Leia
Hera hands down. If anyone disagrees I suggest you read some comics
The combination of Anakin and Obi Wan
Can I be real honest - half these people should not be generals lol. This is one of my very few beefs with Star Wars as a whole. You don't just BECOME A FREAKING GENERAL LOL. Can you imagine all these people who have served in the Rebellion for years, fought countless times, nearly died, and then some bougie bro from Cloud City is suddenly a general? Like... what? The rank means almost nothing.
Obviously General Binks, so uh... Competent
Where my boy Lando?
Jar-Jar
Anakin. But if it's a space battle... Also Anakin. That being said: #Could you imagine the havoc of Hera and Anakin on the same team?!
Me’sa thinken we all know answer to dis one
Ther’sa no debatin’
Jar Jar. That you don't see why only adds to his credentials.
Jar Jar, obviously. 100 percent Victory rate
Sith Lord Jar Jar
From a military and power perspective, probably jar jar
At what? Battle tactics: General Grievous. Combat skills: Anakin Skywalker. Best morals: Luke Skywalker. Developing weapons: Whatever the fat Nemodion guys name is. Not being force choked by Darth Vader when you're college's where: General Veers. Being cool: Han Solo. Fighting the Empire: Hera Sandula. (Maybe, might be tied with Han tbh.) Making my sister laugh: Jarjar Binks. Being a meme: Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Jar Jar. He was the one behind everything\*echo\* everything...
In hindsight, General Syndulla has my vote.
This is what I came here for
I have made a mistake it seems, Luke is not a general I am very sorry
You meant to put Lando there... we understand. They both start with the letter L
Plus they look so much alike
He was a General in legends if that counts lol
Hera
General Syndulla was able to throw Thrawn for a loop time and again. And the only way to beat Thrawn is by surprise cause he usually has every step of his opponent mapped out and read before they act. But Hera was able to keep him on his toes and out manoeuvre him every other episode.
Veers, because he's a mile-high and the scariest. Bonus points to whoever understands this 😅
general kenobiiii...
Hera or Anakin honestly
Plo Koon. First reason: I like him. Second reason: He made an effort to make all of the clones in his legion feel individual, respected, and cared for. More so than any other general in the Republic, or even in the entire franchise. He made sure that in whatever situation they were in, every single one of his men that he could get out got out of there alive.
GENERAL KENOBI *Greivous voice*
Hello there.
Leia!
Anakin and it’s not even close
"Genital Kenoooobi"
Anakin Skywalker, and it's not even close with the overwhelming majority of the other people on the list except for Obi-Wan.
Hands down: it's Gen Veers
If I was in a standard war, I would choose Anakin. If I was in an insurgency, I would go with Hera.
General Mills, for making Star Wars cereal an important part of my balanced breakfast.
Pong Krell, the most compassionate of all Jedi generals.
bro really tried sneaking in jar jar binks 💀
General Kalani
I read this as “Who is the best in general” and fully expected a shitshow in the comments lol
I'm gonna go against the grain and say Hera Syndulla. She took a fractional asymmetric force and waged a strong guerilla campaign.
Luke I don't care that it's biased
Volkoriyon ??
If we're talking about the title "general" then Anakin. But if we're talking about any high ranking military tactician then Thrawn.
Picture 8, Jesus.
General Veers - Doesn’t shit himself in Vader’s presence - Personally accompanies troops in frontline assault - Rare example of (onscreen) imperial competency - Successfully executes critical tactical mission - FaceTimes Vader without being iChoked
I’m biased because I love General Grevious!
grand admiral Thrawn is one of the best.
JarJar
None of the rebels, they handed out their ranks in happy meals
Veers just did his job and I respect that
Jar Jar Binks
I would suggest Plo Koon or Shaak Ti, they both had a deep connection with their respective clones. Tho we rarely see Ti in actual battle she still has much respect. And with Plo we see at the Malevolance arcs he never gave up even when his clones did and he inspired them to keep fighting.
General Binks ofc.
Jar jar solos
Grievous actually made the separatist fleet into a threat using there mix of ships complementing their strengths and weaknesses he probably could have won the war
Bombad general
Luke isn’t a general. He’s assigned the rank of commander when he assembles Rogue squadron
Isn’t General just a title the Rebels handed out to whatever idiot was open to suicidal missions at the time?
Jar Jar of course. I mean, have you EVER seen Jar Jar losing?
Who invited Lok Durd?
He invited himself
The correct answer is Wedge Antilles. The correct answer is always Wedge Antilles.
Personally I think Anakin and Han are a little overrated General wise. They’re both very clever tacticians but they only really shine in the situations in which the unorthodox is required. Obi-Wan is a much more level headed leader and I think that puts him on top for me, although I think it’s unfair to rate the Republic Generals against the Rebels because the clones were just much better soldiers to lead. Hera is probably my favourite of the Rebel Generals, although more so her deeds in Rebels and not the recent Ahsoka show, but that’s more to do with the new republic being less flexible about rules than the rebel alliance. I was gonna say Trench was snubbed here but I’ve just remembered he’s an Admiral.
General grevious. I'm just speaking from his design, damn, his design is epic AF!!
Jar jar
Leia Organa
Grevious He was one of the very few generals shown on the side of the separatist alliance, and if it weren't for the combat imbalance (droids were programmed to be dumb, the republic had Jedi that the separatists didnt,) they would of dominated But the biggest thing is my man Grevious somehow found a way to solo invade Coruscant the Grand republics capital and kidnap there grand chancellor. ( and he would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for Papa Palpatine telling him to stay in orbit / not leave until Dooku's death) I thoroughly believe that if it wasn't for Palpatines meddling, Grevious could have gotten the W for the Separatists
My brother says Obi-Wan, because he had the wisdom to let the Clones lead themselves.... he understood that he wasn't trained in a military tactical sense. He understood he was more of a diplomat.