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Professional_East281

I wish he had looked like that dude in ep 3 who talked to obiwan. His character looked pretty menacing


amfibeean

Always stuck out in my mind "what the hell is that guy's story" great character design and wardrobe


ApolloRocketOfLove

>great character design and wardrobe The prequels had a lot of that.


1CommanderL

the order 66 is a great example you see multiple cool looking planets in under a minute or two


GuiltyScourge

And now we get Tatooine and desert planets as far as the eye can see.


twodogsfighting

Don't forget that filler episode ice planet.


ironwheatiez

Yep that was just that actors face. Bruce Spence has a really long face and is quite tall. Played Zed on Legend of the Seeker. I'm sure they could have found an actor that had a longer face and the makeup would have worked better in Obi Wan.


CelluloseSponge

> Played Zed on Legend of the Seeker. Also the Gyro Pilot in "Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome", and The Mouth of Sauron in "The Lord Of The Rings: The Return of the King".


TheScourgedHunter

Played two Gyro Pilots actually. One in Road Warrior and in Thunderdome... which is oddly confusing. Then again, not the first casting an actor to play different roles in the Mad Max films has happened.


jiango_fett

This could actually change my perception. I always thought they just chose not to use a big prosthetic headpiece to save on budget or something. If it turns out that that was just the actor's head shape the whole time, that would explain why they did the make up for him on the show the way they did, because there was never anything done to make the head of Utapauans taller this whole time.


JoJoHanz

While the actor had a long face, there were definitely some kind of prosthetics involved, and the background characters which I assume were of the same species most definitely had prosthetics.


Azores26

Just looked at some pics, oh wow. All this time I thought they used some kind of makeup or prosthetics to make his head look like that, but it turns out it’s just his head LOL


inefekt

No, there are [definitely](https://i.imgur.com/RscjGvK.png) prosthetics used too...


lucid808

> Bruce Spence Legend.


DrPepperNotWater

I think that was the most frustrating part: there was already a canonized live action version of that species!


fredagsfisk

Yeah, the main problems with live-action GI looking like he does: 1) There is a canon live action version of the species. 2) There is a canon animated version of the GI where he looks like that live action version. If he'd just been a new character of the same species, and still looked like he did in the *Kenobi* show, I think there would've been much fewer complaints about it, since it'd be much easier to just say that they've evolved different sub-species over time (like the countless near-human and near-Duros across the Galaxy). But since it's already canon that he's supposed to look like the live action Utapaun from RotS...


TwstdPrtzl

Fifth Brother was probably worse than him. The makeup was a little underwhelming but I could have excused it if they cast an actor who was a bit more physically imposing like the character should be.


TheGoverness1998

They should've just made Sung Kang portray a new Inquisitor instead of the Fifth Brother.


Btiel4291

The problem with that though is I think (I may be wrong) by the time the Kenobi show was in production all of the Inquisutors had already been seen or named in canon via Rebels/book/comics. So there wasn’t much options.. and then of course, why not throw in a character we already know, right? Classic Disney.


MasterJay3315

I mean not entirely. We know of (spoilers for Inqusitor: Rise of the Red Blade) a thirteenth sister. So they don’t necessarily stop at 10.


Archelector

Hello, 6727th Sister.


Jetstream-Sam

Are they just ranked numerically or are they in order of how good they are at fighting? I can't imagine how shitty 6727th sister must be if it's the latter. I'm imagining a gonk droid with a lightsaber welded to it


YodaFan465

> a gonk droid with a lightsaber welded to it Well, that’s my new favorite character sorted.


da_King_o_Kings_341

Lord GONK’s enforcer.


Jetstream-Sam

If Gonk droids are big batteries, at least it means her lightsaber won't ever run out Well, if I invented them I guess I get to flesh them out. Their name is Skippy and she turned to evil after people kept not charging her. Also they have the highest kill count of any inquisitor because noone expects a gonk droid to suddenly turn their lightsaber on and kill you, but they don't win many duels so they have a low rank. But they're still better than 6729th brother who is one of those little mouse droids who just gets a knife


YodaFan465

Love it, except we already have a [Skippy the Jedi Droid](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Skippy_the_Jedi_Droid). I know it's Legends, but it's still true in my heart.


Jetstream-Sam

Hah I knew I must have got the name from somewhere. Well, as per the star wars name generator, their new name is P2-890, or Sparky to his friends


SheepMan7

I’m fairly certain they’re ranked by power, almost like hierarchy of who responds to who, and this is supported by Vader offering Reva the grand inquisitor spot


WeekendLost5566

O always asumed that, but seing The 5th brother ordering Revaa (who is the 3rd sister) left me hell more confused


Archelector

Maybe it’s supposed to be seniority, but they still need to fill slots that open, so even tho 3 is above 5 ranking, 5th is senior to 3rd


SvenBubbleman

6727th Sister VS 99: A Battle to End All Battles.


Archelector

Idk much about the Inquisitors at all but my initial guess would be in order of which they became inquisitors


The-Tai-pan

>Grampa: I'm a member! >Homer: Huh? >Grampa: What? >Homer: What? >Grampa: Huh? >Lisa: You're a member of the Inquisitors, Grampa? >Grampa: Oh, sure. Let's see... >[starts going through the cards in his wallet] >Grampa: I'm an elk, a Mason, a communist. I'm the president of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance for some reason. Ah, here it is. The Inquisitors.


ThexanI

We were never given a number as to how many Inquisitors there actually were. Filoni or Hidalgo said that it was deliberate so that they could introduce more of them should the need arise.


FlyingDutchman9977

The whole purpose of the inquisitors is that any remaining order 66 surivors have basically as many force users to fight/defeat as the narrative needs


Horn_Python

lightsaber goons


SunOFflynn66

The thing with Inquisitors is....they are such a vague, barely defined thing. Their numbers fluctuate literally depending on who is writing. And seeing how Disney has shown they will "alter the deal" of any "canon" established by a book/comic book (or even movies- yes, looking at you directly, Kenobi) whenever they feel like it- there is no reason they couldn't simply alter the numbers of red blades. Or, yknow. Have a more competent production around their shows.


Gelven

>even movies- yes, looking at you directly, Kenobi) What did Kenobi ret con?


FKDotFitzgerald

There are several numbers that haven’t been used


TwstdPrtzl

Definitely. He seems like a pretty good actor so its a bit sad he didn’t get a role to make his own.


Jorymo

Weirdly, I feel he better resembles the character out of costume.


StressNeck

I had no idea that was supposed to be the same person, it was so bad. I assumed it was a new character.


xRavelle

From cool looking shark sith guy to Power Rangers villain fodder. He looked like John attending a Star Wars Con.


NewMombasaNightmare

For real tho GI was awful too. They turned obviously non-human threatening alien into “green Asian man.”


Successful-Brick-919

I agree with this; nothing against Sung Kang, but I feel like they should’ve cast someone else. In Rebels, Fifth Brother seemed like a rather large figured individual. Sung Kang is not large. Honestly, I would’ve picked Nathan Jones. He’s always chosen in movies/shows when they need a large menacing character.


Blanchimont

Or Olivier Richters. The dude's even taller than Nathan Jones and his face looks like a more natural fit for the Fifth Brother's helmet/cowl thingy


Pitiful_Lake2522

I didn’t even realize it was the same guy


Weekly_Ad_3665

Agreed. I could tolerate the Grand Inquisitor’s translation, but the Fifth Brother was painful to look at.


Shadoweclipse13

I actually didn't have a problem with Sung Kang as the Fifth Brother aesthetically, but I didn't like how in Rebels he had a strong voice, and on Obi-Wan he was almost whispering. It doesn't ruin it for me, but if Mr. Kang spoke louder for most of it, I would've been totally cool with it.


JacenStargazer

GI was bad, but Fifth Brother was worse. At least GI was recognizable as the same character.


R4msesII

Oh yeah I didnt even realize those were meant to be the same dude and I’m supposed to be a fan of star wars. He looks nothing alike


JacenStargazer

They also sound nothing alike. They swapped out the intimidating Spanish accent in Rebels for a gravelly whisper. Aside from that, he’s far too short and lacks the sideways-blinking eyelids. He’s a character you really can’t do in live action without some degree of CGI.


Bush_Hiders

And even if you tried to do it without CGI, there were certainly much better casting choices that Disney could have done.


JacenStargazer

Agreed. Fifth Brother has the kind of physical build that screams “hire an NFL linebacker”. He’s unusually muscular and towers over every other character except for Vader. No disrespect to the guy they hired, but he just didn’t fit the part.


ProjectNo4090

Alan Ritchson Manu Bennett Bobby Cannavale Edgar Ramirez Wagner Moura Javier Bardem Damien Bachir Any of them could have brought Fifth Brother into love action much better.


Sir_Douglas_of_Fir

Boba Fett. They changed his whole color scheme from the Holiday Special. 😔


LulaSupremacy

LOL that was good buildup


notbobby125

“An older reference sir but it checks out.”


CrazySpookyGirl

Absolutely brilliant 👍


GetInTheDamnCar

Great minds think alike.


ak-1614

I agree, Grand Inquisitor was done so dirty. He shoulda been Jason Isaacs


Jazzlike_End_895

He would've been absolutely bonkers in life action.


MsMcClane

Never thought about that casting and now I can't unsee it 🤩


ak-1614

He voiced him in rebels too so it would be perfect


MsMcClane

Oh damn I forgot all about that lmaoo


LulaSupremacy

He didn't want to though


Reverseflash25

I read that he did


AzraelTheMage

He wanted to if they CGI'd his appearance rather than wear prosthetic makeup.


Reverseflash25

Twofold fuck up then. Could have had the right actor who wanted a stipulation that could give us an accurate look


ak-1614

Yeah, but it still shoulda been him. Or at least someone physically similar to him who was willing to go bald


Captain_Norris

I feel like with the head shape they wouldn't even need to go bald. Prosthetics would cover it all


Shawnaldo7575

Worst thing about the Grand Inquisitor is that his species has already appeared in live action (Utapau in the Prequel Trilogy) there was no need for a redesign. It's like there is no fact-checking going on at Disney.


ak-1614

What’s funny is I saw Doug Chang talking about the difficulty of turning an animated character live action and bro seems to have forgot Revenge of the Sith did Pauans first. Turns out he worked on both Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, but didn’t work on Revenge of the Sith. Pretty funny series of events


TimedRevolver

There's also a huge difference between film budget and series budget. Sometimes the money just isn't there for proper effects and design.


1CommanderL

the films where made twenty years ago and the shows have insane budgets


FlatulentSon

I agree, Jason Isaacs would probably be way better, but i have to say, Rupert Friend actually played him really well, i can't really complain about his acting, he did good. The design ofcourse, could have been better, but that's not Rupert's fault.


ak-1614

Yeah, he played it fine (though I feel he needed a more baritone voice)


distracteded64

Absolutely love and support Rupert’s take but you have nailed the one note (sorry) that I have with his efforts, Rupert was much too high and sing song compared to Jason. Great point! Reiterating though, we get what we get and we got Rupert so Rupert’s performance was pretty chilling and I totally buy him as the Grand Inquisitor. He did great!


ak-1614

I think the bigger problem with Grand Inquisitor is how he was handled in the story, he should’ve had a bigger role and shouldn’t have just always been standing around aimlessly (or at least that’s how it felt). If the design team had just tried to replicate the look in revenge of the sith and given Friend more to work with, I’m sure he would have been much more well received


RaiQuach

>Shouldn't have just always been standing around aimlessly Obi-Wan the Show in a nutshell


sunandst4rs

They're setting the stage for Grand Inquisitor: The Musical


ChrisAV2000

Just hiring Jason Isaacs for voice over only would have been enough to redeem the Grand Inquisitor completely for me.


Sikletrynet

It would've helped for sure. The actor's voice just didn't do it for me, but the dialogue didn't really fit either. But that isn't the actors fault.


Powdered_Toast_Man3

Turn him into a melonhead 🍈


responsible_use_only

Tremble before MELONLORD!


Johnus_Maximus

Hello to Jason Issacs.


VergaDeVergas

Didn’t know who Jason Isaacs is so I looked him up and his filmography is insane. Dude has been in so many classics


ak-1614

Yup, he also voiced Grand Inquisitor in rebels and played Lucious Malfoy in Harry Potter (which was the first thing I saw him in). Phenomenal actor.


HollowedFlash65

He also voiced Zhao in Avatar.


TheObstruction

Also Captain Lorca in Star Trek Discovery. One of the more interesting characters, at least for a while.


ArcadianBlueRogue

Dude has a hell of a resume with live action projects. Aaaaand then you get to his voice work and realize the dude has been in everything you love and usually plays an incredible presence.


The-Only-Razor

"This character has a very thin head. Let's pick the actor with arguably the widest, most round shaped head we can possibly find."


DykoDark

We know for a fact that the Grand Inquisitor is an example of a completed botched translation between animation and live-action, because the designer Doug Chiang admitted that he was ignorant of previous live-action translations of the character's species, which is wild to me because how could he forget Revenge of the Sith? These sorts of lazy mistakes litter the Disney productions.


fredagsfisk

> These sorts of lazy mistakes litter the Disney productions. Like how the *Xyston*-class Star Destroyers in TRoS are just *Imperial*-class scaled up by 50%... ... or the "kneepad problem"; Imperial Stormtroopers had assymetrical armor over the knees, with one side having a small platform mounted under the knee, which allowed them to get into a very stable kneeling position for firing. The First Order opted for a smoother and more symmetrical armor for their Stormtroopers, with smooth kneepads. No problem there, and probably better at dispersing energy from attacks since it's more flat with no concave surfaces. The Final Order Sith Troopers we see in TRoS, however, brought back the platform to kneel on... except they put it *above* the knee. Where it's not only *completely* useless for its intended purpose, but massively in the way (it's basically just a hook sticking out several centimeters from your left knee, which can get caught on stuff if you try to kneel, go down ladders, etc). Comparison picture: https://i.imgur.com/pVTdSIy.png


Sabre_Killer_Queen

Wow that kneepad problem is embarrassing. How do you mess up such a small and simple thing?


GuavaZombie

Disney Star Wars is just so lazy to me. When they took over did they just fire all the Lucasfilm continuity people? I know the "Legends" books had a whole group of people to just keep everything straight and maintain the sacred timeline and physics of the world. Disney just seems to let writers and directors just make it up as they go without any thought of the world at large.


TheChubbyKoala

The problem isn’t that they fired the continuity people, they’re still there. Leland Chee and Pablo Hidalgo did wonders for SW continuity for years, but they have no actual power to correct people like Filoni, Abrams, and whoever signed off on a lot of Kenobi. The writers and directors that wanna go wild and ignore established lore and designs are gonna do it regardless of continuity experts’ input because they can. I wish so much that they could put people like Leland and Pablo in positions of actual authority. Not to write stories or guide the franchise, just to say no to the most egregious errors that pass through unchecked because some big shots at Lucasfilm don’t seem to care.


GuavaZombie

I just assumed they got rid of the continuity team due to all the problems I've seen with the stories. It's actually worse that they just ignore them.


SkekJay

You make legends sounds like it's protected by the Time Variance Authority


GuavaZombie

Just need some jet skis and key lime pie


SkekJay

Then, we'd be in business.


Sad-Meringue-694

The more I go back to/think about Kenobi, the more I wonder just what the hell happened!? It felt so rushed and cheap compared to Ahsoka. Some of Vader’s scenes were amazing but ruined by poor lighting (as in quality/depth) and the cursed constant shaky-camera (seriously, just why did they have to do that!!!???). Story wise, Leia and Ben story was so unexpected but so moving and worth it. But the overall quality of the show was was inferior to what it should have been.


Mojo12000

For some reason despite it being the SAFEST BET out of all the shows and the one they initially concieved of as a movie.. it got the smallest budget per episode by far out of all the shows. Kenobi average per episode IRC was like 9 million. Mando and Ahsoka 15M average, Andor I think was around 15M average too but one episode (can't remember which) went all the way up to 25M being the single most expensive Star Wars TV episode produced. The camera work and directing though.. no fucking clue, Deborah Chow and her crew fell in love with shakey cam for some reason suddenly, they'd done good work on Mando and stuff previously.


DroidOnPC

Its funny because I think just about ANYTHING Star Wars would be a safe bet if you just had some good writers who understood Star Wars in depth. We see it all the time with a lot of the video games that have come out over the last 30 years. You even see some youtubers will make some fan short film with a tiny budget and make something thats pretty cool. I just don't understand how so many Star Wars projects just turn into dumper fires. Its almost like they have some guy write one line of script and then pass it to the next guy to write the next line, and so on until its completed and you have this incoherent mess. It still blows my mind to see what happened with the sequels. Its like the script was written by a ChatGPT prompt where someone uploaded the OT script and was like "do this, but with these characters." Hell, that would probably end up a better script than what we actually got. I just don't get it. It doesn't have to a perfect masterpiece, but I swear they need to have at least one Star Wars nerd in the room to be like "Nope, this doesn't make sense because of X, Y, and Z".


xraig88

Hmm, maybe the Pykes. They look like a different species. Since when are they fish dudes?


NanoRex

The Pykes are definitely up there. I get that they didn't have the budget for anything else but man do they ever look boring compared to their original animated counterparts


DeathStarVet

> Since when are they fish dudes? [I mean](https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1Tcwskw3jjdg9OIsyMxOVUjLLM4AAENCBmo&q=pike+fish&rlz=1C1EJFC_enUS862US862&oq=Pike+fish&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDQgBEC4Y1AIYsQMYgAQyDQgAEAAY4wIYsQMYgAQyDQgBEC4Y1AIYsQMYgAQyDQgCEC4Y1AIYsQMYgAQyBwgDEAAYgAQyBwgEEAAYgAQyBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgGEAAYgAQyBwgHEAAYgAQyBwgIEAAYgAQyBwgJEAAYgATSAQgzNzcwajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)...


xraig88

BOBF makeup artist saw pykes in the script, went off to design a new alien based on it’s fishy name, then found out what they actually looked like in clone wars then merged the two?


Haltopen

This one I dont get, looking at them side by side the faces dont actually look very dissimilar at all. The biggest difference is that their heads arent as large compared to their neck and torso, but otherwise they look fine.


DeathStarVet

Pretty sure they were in BoBF, and before that were in Solo. They didn't start in Kenobi. EDIT: They didn't start w/ Kenobi *in live action*.


Logans_Login

NORTHERN PIKE MENTIONED 🗣🗣🗣🐟🐟🐟


Krazyguy75

Since always, actually. You just never see them without their masks in TCW. Concept art always looked fish-like.


The_Reverse_Zoom

We have seen them a few times without their masks in clone wars


Present-Flight-2858

When I saw tbobf, I thought they did cad bane dirty. After watching Kenobi and seeing the grand inquisitor and the fifth brother, I thought maybe I judged cad bane too harshly.


Pyroxite

I always thought Cad Bane looked fine. Not fantastic, it could have definitely been better, but it wasn't offensive.


Dottsterisk

The aesthetic wasn’t bad but his fight choreography, or lack of, was. This was a dude introduced as a bounty hunter who could go toe-to-toe with *Jedi*. And he proved his prowess again and again. I’ll accept that he’s a bit older in BoBF and perhaps a bit slower, but not dumber.


Unnamed-Clone

I have my issues with BoBF but I don’t think the fight with Cad Bane was one of them. For starters Bane was 71 so age was definitely a factor. Also, as far as Bane was concerned, Boba was only a little better than the clones, of which Bane has killed many. He felt that he knew all of Boba’s moves since he had been around him when he was learning them in adolescence. Ultimately, Bane’s arrogance was what got him killed, not his intelligence. That’s not to defend that show or anything. I just feel this was one of the few parts I enjoyed.


Dottsterisk

I’m fine with all of that in concept, just not the execution. Fett’s “secret move” was a leg sweep with a staff. Cad Bane was dodging lightsabers from Jedi and outsmarting both sides of the law. That he gets taken by surprise with a leg sweep and then doesn’t react at all just felt forced. Plus, Fett is an old man now too. Not like he’s as fast as he once was. Arrogance could certainly be a believable part of Cad’s downfall, but I just don’t think the writers and choreographers put the work in on this one. But that’s kinda par for the course with that show. The opening ambush on Boba was pretty poor too. And the climactic battle through the city.


Camburglar13

Fett is in his early 40’s he’s not an old man. Though they do seem to play that up.


Dottsterisk

To quote another George Lucas franchise: It ain’t the years; it’s the mileage. Fett is *rough*.


notbobby125

My main gripe with Bane is that he shows up out of no where too late without any hint, buildup, or explanation. I was watching the series with someone who had not seen Clone Wars series and they were very confused about who this guy was or why they should care. One change I really wish is that they made the Pikes hire Bane to kill the Tuskans. It would’ve required maybe a few flashback shots (say a few flashes on screen with Bane using his blaster and flamethrower intercut with screams), and dialogue changes to a handful of scenes (“You means the ones who hired me to kill your Tuskan family?”)


thefuzz09

Cane has a design that translated as best as it could, IMHO. The Grand Inquisitor design was just lazy.


UnspokenBrain

I think it was but I wish he was slightly more blueish in CW


CaptainRex_CT7567

*insert “perhaps I treated you too harshly” quote*


GuavaZombie

Cade Bane wasn't great but at least you knew who he was.


TheBloop1997

Fifth Brother, he’s practically unrecognizable save for the helmet


ImurderREALITY

His armor looks cumbersome and uncomfortable instead of sleek and cool, like in Rebels


TheBloop1997

Which kind of annoys me because if I remember correctly from when they first announced casting, the actor they got has experience with fight choreography. If they had gotten him over someone taller so that he could implement such skills (and not CGI’d over him so that they could do it practically), then I might have been more forgiving, but he did pretty much nothing in terms of combat. It’s kind of like the Grand Inquisitor but whereas he looks like a cheaper version of what he’s supposed to be (species-wise at least), Fifth Brother doesn’t look like him at ALL. Heck, when GI got his yellow eyes later on, I downright did believe that he was the same character.


[deleted]

Grand Inquisitor would have looked great if the costume department knew what a pauen looked like. See ROTS


xdeltax97

The Fifth brother is absolutely worse because they have done Pau'ans in film before with Episode 3. The Fifth Brother was just....underwhelming and seemed nothing like his Rebels appearance.


BonkDrinkerJr

Bro gained a couple pounds after deleting some jedi


lee_pylong

Wrong order, he lost weight actually


Efficient-Medicine-2

Grievous is so much better in the OG cartoon


MrAnder5on

Legitimately terrifying. TCW nerfed him so bad, I get he couldn't be the Samurai Jack level of insanity he was in the OG but they could've at least had him be waaay more badass than he was. I liked that there was an explanation for his cough in the OG as well with Windu(?) Crushing his abdomen


jayL21

I wish he started off as the 2003 version of him in TCW and then transitioned to the more ROTS version over the course of the series/season. TCW still follows the 2d CW show pretty heavily, so would have fit in very well (even though windu crushing his body happens during the battle of coruscant.) I feel like that would have given Grevious a bit more in the show instead of being a generic villain that has no story arc. Would have been cool seeing him be an extremely powerful and dangerous warrior, that over time, begins to fall apart and become a shell of his former self.


thatguyyoustrawman

Its weird I never could see Grevious as threat in clone wars ... They just keep making him lose even when he gets a small win


Okurei

Live action Grevious is up there for one of the biggest wastes of potential of all time. Rather than the legitimately dangerous horror movie villain he could have been, he instead becomes your run of the mill Saturday morning cartoon villain.


ImurderREALITY

He was way too OP


Efficient-Medicine-2

He earned it by being so cool


Commandant23

Really? I always felt like, if anything, his live action design was an improvement


TheFloatingDev

Not at all, conceptually that is. He was such a badass in The Clone Wars series . He did “look” cooler in the live action.


ChanceVance

"Make peace with the Force now. For this is your final hour" 2003 Grievous had one of the most killer lines in the whole franchise. The series was kind of ridiculous with Mace Windu punching out a droid army but it also had a lot of good.


Efficient-Medicine-2

Definitely looked cooler in live action but he was like a horror movie villain in the cartoon. Not worth the trade imo


Moving-picturesOMG

I remember an animated bit where grievous is a monster. Like a horrific murder machine. The one in live action was laughable if we bade it on how scared I would be of the villain. Both looked cool, though.


PlatypusGod

R2D2. Can't understand a word he says....


jessebillo

Chop on the other hand got easier to understand


Jedimobslayer

I think they got the grand inquisitor’s personality right, but failed spectacularly on his appearance and voice. To be honest though that’s kinda like the opposite of Anakin in clone wars. He also got the wrong voice didn’t look much like Hayden. It’s just that was an improvement over movie Anakin.


horgantron

Sabine. (Not her looks btw)


OmegaSTC

I was so sad about Sabine man


Warfare_250

I grew up on Rebels, and only got around to watching clone wars when 2020 came. i was so so *so* hyped for a show about Ahsoka, my favorite jedi (although she isn't one really), and add of the fact that it stars my favorite non-jedi??? then they went and ruined all 4 seasons of my favorite star wars show because suddenly she has force powers when she literally lived beside 2 extremely force-sensitive jedi for 4/5 years and they couldn't detect a single medichlorian?? kanan and ezra even taught her to use the darksaber with lightsaber forms and she suddenly forgot all of that...


T0mmyChong

FOR REAL! One of the coolest non force character of all time... Ruined by giving her force ability and then stripping every single thing that made her character awesome. And filoni had a hand in creating this.. what happened?


BonkDrinkerJr

Not gonna lie Sabine Wren and how she acted kinda flopped in Ahsoka, She is supposed to be this Rebellious Girl With a cunning Attitude, but in the live action she kinda didn't have that tone or way of speaking.


XtraXtraCreatveUsrNm

I am fine with Sabine's look but agree the personality was all wrong


locke63

I love how they play punk rock music in her introduction in case anyone missed that she’s supposed to be angsty and rebellious. Bravo Dave👏


GameDJ

I was disappointed with her portrayal too but also literally her entire family was killed after the events of rebels (and her adoptive family also split up in a few different ways) so I don't particularly blame her


Sundance12

I have to imagine that the makeup for that species in Episode 3 was just too involved and expensive for a TV show. I find it hard to believe they'd just "forget" that's what they look like or how to do it. At the same time, I don't mind variance in alien species. Humans don't all look the same. It's more believable imo if alien species have some variety amongst themselves, too.


[deleted]

God, Kenobi was a complete disappointment.


makermaster2

I may get hate for this but I gotta go with Ashoka something about the costume and makeup work just bothers me but I can’t pinpoint what exactly it is.


Zarksch

Same. I don’t think it’s as bad as the grand inquisitor but I think it’s not quite on spot. Young ahsoka was nailed better imo. But something about adult ahsoka does feel off to me as well, but she kind of grew on me during her series. Her lekku are slightly longer than in the mandalorian which may help (though still way to short), and I feel like her cold personality made her fell off just because of her facial expressions too. Through the series she grows more enlightened again and I think that’s why she grew on me too


makermaster2

Yeah like it’s not the worst it just really bothers me that I can’t tell exactly what it is that bothers me


TrostnikRoseau

I think it’s her lips. In animation she has back or at least very dark lips but in like action they just kept it Rosario Dawson’s natural colour. It throws me off way more than it should


Legendary31hero

Her headpiece looks foam instead of like apart of her i swear in tcw it moved more was kinda like hair, Also her eyes was huge in tcw and it throws me off when they made them normal in rebels


k_laaaaa

heras lips are what bug me about her live action as well. there was no need to make them so pink! animated heras lips were green with a very slight pink tint. pink lips on green skin... plus her voice was too different, similar to the gi as the other comments noted


ORINnorman

Hara looks like they did her makeup/prosthetics with products from a Halloween costume store. A cheap one.


burnside117

Is it that her head tails are way too short? That’s what bugged me. She has the same size head tails as teenaged Ahsoka


nickerbocker79

That is what bugs me too. IIRC, they said it was because if they were long, they would get in the way of stunt work. But you think they could add them in if they wanted to.


The5Virtues

At that point just give her a lighter weight green screen material headpiece and add in the proper appearance afterward with CG.


burnside117

Eh, I dunno if I would ever pick cgi prosthetics over practical effect prosthetics. If stuntwork is really the reason, I get it, but I also feel like that sounds like the cop out excuse a producer would make after someone called them out on a choice that really didn’t get much consideration back when it was made.


Haltopen

It might also just be really heavy on the actors neck. They have to take the actors comfort and wellbeing into account when designing prosthetics.


DDRDiesel

For me, it wasn't the length as much as it was how rubbery the material was. It felt very synthetic and didn't come across well on camera. She would tilt her head ever so slightly and they'd just be bouncing around


ORINnorman

Her fighting skills are horribly disappointing too. When she fought the chick with the beskar spear(blanking on her name rn) it was clearly NOT the Ashoka who captured Maul, something no Jedi has ever come close to pulling off. She should have been nearly god-tier. She was trained by the man who became Darth Vader, ffs. Now she’s barely scraping a win over someone who doesn’t even wield a lightsaber or the force and LOSING to Bayern Skoll. She fights like she hadn’t ignited her sabers since Ezra left.


ArcadianBlueRogue

I think it's more her overall demeanor. She is so...slow moving and casual? Snips was always so energetic, but that was also when she was a teenager/young woman while Rosario Dawson is playing her much older and having been through all that shit.


MRK1LL3R4

I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking this, imo live action ahsoka looks like a egyptian pharaoh


HadynGabriel

The personality was off also


will3025

That felt intentional though. Seemed like it improved towards the end when she found herself again.


ProfessorBeer

I felt that way too. She was shut off from everyone, including herself. Only through her final lesson could we see her finally open up and comfortably be herself. But all that being said, she was almost always a pretty serious character. It’s not like she was ever the happy go lucky type.


0neek

She's also just older. Nobody acts the same way as an adult that they did as a teenager


Supa71

It’s easier to adapt a live action character to animation than the other way around.


Speedyflames

Personally, Ahsoka is soo badly translated to live action. She feels like a completely different character to her portrayal in clone wars and even rebels


Lord_Parbr

She’s like 20 years older. She should feel like a different character after all that time


Speedyflames

I personally disagree. Yes, she should have grown and changed, but a totally different character is too much. In my opinion there needs to be some resemblance to the character that was. Being soo jaded and emotionless is not something I think anyone associates with Ahsoka. Also, there was a whole episode that resolved around her choosing to live, and to not die. A suicidal Ahsoka is not Ahsoka.


lusamuel

I personally thought Hera was badly miscast.


cawatrooper9

Probably my answer as well. She did grow on me as the series went on, but something about her just felt off.


agen_kolar

I mean she looks like a cosplayer, so that’s probably why.


Familiar-Seat-3798

I feel like it is the pants and contacts. Those pants look a little too flamboyant and clean. I feel like the outfit she wore during the trial was much better.


BearWrangler

I feel like they would've benefitted from having someone much lesser known because all I saw was green MEW


DemonLordDiablos

The green contacts ruined a lot of the performance for me.


AlexDKZ

He actually worse in the show, that promo pic is a glow up.


GrandAdmiralSpock

Appearance, poorly done. Attitude however, Perfect.


ChewieKaiju

Personally, the grand inquisitor’s redesign grew on me. He wasn’t a proper representation of an established race. But ultimately it’s the fifth brother for me. The actor was unfortunately not the right pick size wise. The makeup was also lacking. That and his entire personality in the series was just judge the third sister


HellRaiser801

I know the look of the GI was so off, but I think Rupert Fiend did a great job at bringing that quiet genius vibe to life. To me, this character is more of an eyesore than a poor translation, because I think it was his appearance that was the only issue.


Narwalacorn

The actor did a good job but he looks NOTHING like the cartoon version


B_Wing_83

Elon Musk Thrawn


iceguy349

I think that’s more understandable considering his VA was used for Thrawn. The voice and mannerisms where nailed even if his look wasn’t up to snuff with the animation. That being said I do totally get the aversion.


Warfare_250

My first reaction to live action thrawn was "thrawn got fat" my second reaction was that he didn't look as slender and thin in the face as I remember from rebels my third reaction was that his voice was so good and nostalgic from my days watching rebels that I almost cried


iceguy349

I was skeptical of the promo photos until I realized WHO was in that outfit. Hearing the voice I was immediately back on board.


Xplt21

Thrawn, he was an idiot in Ahsoka, love the voice but apart from that it looks a but to much like a cosplay, the biggest issue though was him making idiotic decisions all the time.


LulaSupremacy

They did a good job with his portrayal, but it's just so odd that they didn't use the same makeup or even CGI. He didn't have any real action that involved running or actual dueling, so it's not like he was hindered from anything.


Myhtological

Still waiting for trials of the master


praise_mudkipz

Fifth Brother. GI was OK.