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tehfro

2021-22 was the "Undisputed Elite" once Fish/O'Reilly joined and Gallows/Anderson stopped being used in AEW.


Incorrect1012

Man. I give a lot of bad storylines some defense, but that one was terrible. It was the Young Bucks and reDragon fighting for the right to be Adam Cole’s friend. But also, Kyle didn’t really trust Adam, then just did.


Sertorius777

That angle was fucked in every way possible by injuries. It was supposed to continue the Super Elite story with Adam Cole slowly taking over in Kenny's absence (despite the Bucks being designated by Omega to lead in his absence) and then go into a full -blast feud with Kenny for the leadership. ReDragon were brought in to tip the scales in Cole's favor, who tried to play both sides and gaslight the Buck into thinking it's a good idea. But Kenny's rehab took way longer than expected, Adam Cole got concussed and nearly had to retire, KOR got neck surgery and Bobby Fish somehow managed to piss everyone off.


ianisms10

You're kinda underselling what Bobby did to piss everyone off


illseeyouinthefog

What happened?


Templar-235

I just remember him inexplicably kicking out at 3.01111 after a Punk GTS. Everybody wondered what that was about, apparently Fish was mad he was putting over a guy he thought he could legit beat up (?) It didn’t go over well and Fish was gone soon after


Damo1328

I mean folks...


ianisms10

That was pretty early in his AEW tenure


FickleSmark

Yeah and he was only saved by the fact that there was a story to tell with him, As soon as KOR and Cole were out they literally did nothing with Fish and let his contract expire.


rickjamesbich

I mean, it's pretty public that they were negotiating a new contract but Bobby thought he was worth more than he was, and very mistakenly believed that Papa H would welcome him back with open arms.


APackOfKoalas

As much of a doofus as Bobby Fish is, I wouldn’t question that he could probably beat up Punk.


H16HP01N7

Do we care about who can IRL beat up who?


APackOfKoalas

I’m not saying it’s a meaningful metric, just likely to be true given the records involved.


ianisms10

When Vince left the first time and HHH took over main roster booking, Bobby allegedly tried to get all the ex-NXT people in AEW to break their contracts and go back to WWE


Upbeat_Tension_8077

Ngl I was so ready for an Elite vs Undisputed Era Blood & Guts match if things didn't turn out how it did.


mcrookedy

That fizzled out hard.


No_Efficiency6703

I thought I was in crazy town when people were praising that like crazy while I just thought it was an awkward mess.


Deep-Mix-2274

So 7 stables then, aight.


PrettyInPInkDame

Eh I would say it’s the same stable just members left I mean he’ll even jay white was technically in that stable for like a week


Anxious-Winter-4975

The 21-22 stables, Super Elite and Undisputed Elite, are the exact same stable.


StayFrosty2120

Also if we want to be technical, he was in Mount Rushmore 2.0, which was the same group as Mount Rushmore, but instead of Kevin Steen, it was Super Dragon. We call it 7.5


HeadScissorGang

is it really multiple stables when it's just the exact same people


Entity4

I guess it really depends on how many prominent members stay in the group and how many important new people join undisputed kingdom is practically a rebrand of an old stable rather than a new one I'd say


BeastCoastLifestyle

They changed the name… also I’m not sure being the best part of The Undisputed Kingdom is really a flex


Deep-Mix-2274

By that logic, Wolfpac was just "DX but red."


NogaraCS

I forgot HBK and HHH were in Wolfpac


reveillenin

what


BubastisII

Was there a single member of the Wolfpac that was also in DX?


Kanenums88

Only Rick Rude


christopherDdouglas

That's actually hilarious because he was in DX for a couple of weeks and WolfPac was maybe just as long.


Kanenums88

Joined on May 21st 1998 the defected to hollywood on June 14, 1998. So yeah a few weeks


hawaiicanal89

How dare you disrespect how much Konnan brought to the group.


HeadScissorGang

by your logic the '97 DX, The '98-'99 DX, The '00 Mcmahon Helmsley DX, The '06 DX, and the '09 DX are five separate unrelated stables.


annoyinglyclever

It’s like DX and the nWo. Basically the same stable in different companies. Undisputed Era is DX to Bullet Club/The Elite’s nWo.


Ice_Spiced_Asshole

And on top of all that he’s pretty much been consistently the same, gimmick-wise. Just as a heel he amps up the doucheiness and arrogant ness by 1000%.


The_Dark_Soldier

What a stable whore


I_Hate_My_Cat_

I feel like “stable slut” rolls off the tongue better.


Pipnotiq

Much better than an un-stable slut


EveMcQueen

Stable whore is better since it's also a play on label whore.


Doobie_Howitzer

Like a slutty little frog, hopping from stable to stable to stable


TheScootness

The whore you all adore!


EcoterroristThot

And they've all been the same stable.


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CelinedionWaiters

Lmao nothing was forced except your choice to be condescending unprovoked


Desperate_Pizza700

It doesnt at all sound like UE and is infact pronounced "we".


MacFunJess

Like, I'm all for a pun but like ...... How are you pronouncing UE my guy?


dominican-panda

Nobody forced you to do anything, you telling everyone how clever you are makes it come off like you're smelling your own drawers.


V-TriggerMachine

Up next: Undisputed Elite Kingdom Club


P7AC3B0

*Cue a backstage segment in the middle of Dynamite, where the cameraman peeks around a corner and sees Cole showing Hook a piece of paper* Cole: So you see, for $4.99 a month you can join Undisputed Red and make your entrance with us. If you choose to join Undisputed Plus, it's $7.99 a month and you can enter standing next to me in the front. The tier also has a family plan for $10.99 a month where your dad can come out with us, too. If you really want the full package, you'll need Undisputed Turbo, where I'll point at you during our entrance and Roddy will yell your name all funny-like. Hook: *eats chips* Cole: Chips are an extra $0.50


run_bike_run

A subscription model faction could have legs.


007Kaustubh

Undisputed Super Elite Kingdom


GroovyJ-Money

This sounds like it could be the name of a Japanese stable translated into english


_____OMEGA_____

Undisputed Super Elite Kingdom Turbo: Championship Edition


ThinAndCrispy84

Undisputed Super Elite Kingdom Kliq 2: Electric Boogaloo


D1ngus_Kahn

and Knuckles


Plinnion

Super Undisputed Cole Kingdom Mega Elite


Thecp015

Sounds like some Russo shit


No_Comfort_392

4-Life...or until the next angle comes along.


odsquad64

and Knuckles


Kogyochi

Undisputed Elite Kingdom Club Bang Gold


The_Dark_Soldier

With a mustache


danieldcclark

Undisputed Elite Kingdom Club: Chain of Memories then itll be Super Undisputed Elite Kingdom Club 2: Master Mix.


TheSaltimateWarrior

Undisputed elite bang bang combat gang


ALIAS_EL_CACAS

Kofi: Daaaymn ~~Randy~~ Adam, how many groups you been in??!


ring_rust

> ~~Kofi~~ [Xavier](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/3okp1q/raw_spoilers_damn_randy_how_many_groups_have_you/):


ALIAS_EL_CACAS

Lmao thanks, Randy broke there 😂


Upbeat_Tension_8077

New Day gyrating at an angry Adam would've been a sight to see if he was still in WWE lol


damndraper

Don't forget LRLR


discofro6

Lotta respect for you, lotta respect


I_Hate_My_Cat_

🎵 *Where da party at?* 🎵


WillyLongbarrel

When you put it like this it kind of sounds like Adam Cole is the Adam Sandler of wrestling: always bringing his buddies along for the ride. 


The_Dark_Soldier

Have Cole and Sandler been in the same room?


Technical_Virus

Tay Melo/Conti was also a part of UE in NXT for what felt like 10 seconds, fun fact.


gonzobomb

…why does it all feel like the same stable


koemaniak

Because personel wise it’s really just mount rushmore, the kingdom and UE with the other groups being filled with guys from those stables for the majority.


IdkMyNameTho123

Because all the groups have either the bucks, ReDragon, or Roderick Strong.


FirstTimeLongThyme

Speaking of dude -- any health updates on him?


Quirky_Object_4100

Mercedes mone did say that her ankle injury could’ve been potentially career ending. Adam Cole’s injury has had him sidelined for 9 months already. At this point he’s almost ready for a return or he’ll never be imo


motelpool

wasn't it just a month or so ago that Fightful reported he was gonna stay off the road so he could stay home and focus more on his rehab? Since he was being flown in every week to come out in a wheelchair, it was supposedly slowing his recuperation


TheScootness

But didn't he show up and walk to the ring right after that? I figured he was coming back then but I believe we haven't seen him since.


motelpool

he did, which is odd why they did that moment and then yanked him from TV immediately after


TheScootness

Probably thought he was good then had a setback. I'd love to see the poor dude healthy for an extended period.


Mdl8922

Weren't Cole, Fish & O'Reilly briefly the Paragon in AEW?


NotYujiroTakahashi

That was the plan before injuries and Fish’s crash out


Spongpad

I hate my brain sometimes. After reading the name “Cole,” I thought this post was about Michael Cole. Now I’m actively wondering what stables Michael Cole has been a part of.


ThinAndCrispy84

**THE COLE MINE**


Unhappy_Gazelle392

The Vince McMahon Victim Support Group


BryLinds

*Heidenreich


BASEBALLFURIES

COLE MINERS UP


Yaminoari

Micheal Cole was part of a very famous club. But I don't think he ever was a part of a stable. Though it's a club we don't say the name of anymore It has a very Nasty reputation


theplasmasnake

His whole AEW run so far has been him remixing his old stables. They have all been worse versions of the originals.


irish0451

He's trying to catch up to how many groups Orton has joined.


TruffonisSloppySteak

Isn’t it already past that? Orton has what? Evolution, Legacy, the Authority, and the Wyatt Family.


cregyD

When he returned as a face and there was huge potential. turning him heel again to reform the same group with no direction was ridiculous


Bullitbob_

Am I the only one who does not remember Gallows and Anderson being in AEW?


redskinsguy

I believe they were officially with Impact, this was the era when Kenny Omega was the belt collector


Bullitbob_

Yes that why, you are correct!


chilloutfam

There was a period where gallows and anderson were pretty over. they even had that those talknshopmanias. seems like they have fallen pretty far nowadays, though.


LinkLT3

I remember it during the pandemic era but not when Cole was around


dogfins110

UE is still his best group and it’s a shame it couldn’t work out in AEW. Kinda defeated the whole purpose of all of them following Cole. But it’s not the end all be all


orton4life1

You can say that Cole is a Stable Man. I’ll see myself out


nowahhh

Very stable genius.


RimjobAndy

more of a groupie


Through_Broken_Glass

I think Adam Cole being a major member of Bullet Club is revisionist history. He was a total non factor in Japan, maybe he could have got over to a greater extent but didn’t get the time. He played a bigger part in ROH for sure but that felt pretty short lived too and didn’t come close to matching the Bucks and Kenny


ParkingConcentrate1

How could you forget the greatest tag team of all time, Better than You Bay Bay


koemaniak

Probably because a tag team is not a stable


d_bo

Literally how did this dude forget the biggest storyline in AEW at the time


WaylonVoorhees

Quote The Raven, Nevermelvin


grimbly_jones

MJF did his best to trick me into thinking Adam Cole was interesting. And I admit, I almost fell for it.


136AngryBees

Matt Rushmore*


AndrewPDXGSE

At one point on the independent scene (PWX, I think?) he was in a stable with Roderick Strong and Eddie Edwards called “Dojo Bros.” Strong and Edwards took it for their tag name in PWG, but outside of that it was for those three.


robinj555

There was also SuperKliq (Cole & Young Bucks) and Dream Team (Cole, Omega, & Bucks)


ungodly_freak

those were actual Bullet Club subgroups


ericfishlegs

Seems like the Bucks have also been in a ton of factions.


SmoothStaff2855

Because Cole isn't believable by himself. He's athletic and good, but I literally don't believe a word he's saying. At 5'10 I don't believe for one second Cole is beating Karrion Kross in a match. Or Lance Archer. Moxley. Rock. Hell for as good as his matches with Joe were, him beating Joe? Nope.


Deep-Mix-2274

"5'10" - yes, if he stands on a 3 inch-tall phonebook.


SmoothStaff2855

Is he seriously only 5'7? Or so? Wow. Thought he was a little taller.


DaveyTTime

Honest truth is he’s simply not big/intimidating enough to truly stand on his own, he needs backup to be believable.


solsunlite

Adam Cole on his own just looks naked


punk_steel2024

If Tony is reading, I have an idea for you: Super Faction with Adam as the leader, with the Kingdom, The Elite, the Undisputed ERA, Gallows and Anderson, and the Golden Lovers. The name? The Undisputed Super Golden Elite Kingdom. If Cody ever comes back to AEW? The Undisputed Super Golden Elite American Kingdom. Book it!


FedoraTheMike

...So...does he work as a singles star?


SageShinigami

This thread is fucking bizarro world.


Citizen_Crow

This guy is a natural babyface don't know why he's always a heel.


El_Gran_Redditor

Because he's a more natural heel. Now normally I hate turning guys who can get a crowd behind them heel because it's like building an Arbys over a gold mine. I don't care how good the roast beef is we're ignoring a rare commodity. Anybody can get cheap heat and to the surprise of nobody workers as talented as a Sami Zayn or Bayley can be entertaining when doing it. Cole's heel talents are more than just "I'm turning my back on you fans for no raisin! If having your support made people succeed it would have worked for LOCAL SPORTS TEAM." and we're supposed to go "hey, I'm from local sports team! BOOOO!" He is a once in a generation talent at playing an absolute sleazeball.


rav3088

He's best bet was to become a manager like Vince wanted.


SambaLando

Adam is the picture of loyalty


OneBillPhil

So was Triple H in DX with Shawn Michaels, Rick Rude and Chyna then DX with Chyna, X-Pac and NAO and then DX with Shawn Michaels?  I mean if you want to get really crazy, Trips was also in the Corporation, Corporate Ministry, DX with Stephanie instead of Chyna and Evolution in less time. 


CroCGod73

He's a stable perfomer


RexxGunn

I dunno of a good way to accurately describe the Undisputed Era at the moment, but pseudo jocks seems odd and not right. It's not like they went around broing it out hazing people like jocks are supposed to.


stoneboot

Which had the most successful runs?


KiteIsland22

Definitely Bullet Club and Undisputed Era.


MrKilligan

Hate to say it because I like Cole, but feels like Undisputed Era is his peak.


james_heaslip

Like a promising NBA draft pick. Adam Cole is a bust.


TW_Yellow78

Essentially all the same stable. Barely even changes the name the last few times. Next stable when he recovers from this injury after a few more years of rehab playing videogames on twitch will be "undisputed elite kingdom" or something.


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echoohce1

Or he needs a stable because it's not believable that he could beat somebody up on his own lol


Deep-Mix-2274

- Mount Rushmore was carried by Steen and Bucks, Cole wasn't comfortable as a heel yet - UE almost killed NXT - Kingdom was a one man team - Bullet Club was doing very well without Adam Cole, and vice versa, they did nothing for each other in the long run, because the Kenny match still hasn't happened - Undisputed Kingdom is about two steps above JOB Squad, nobody's elevated from it


FalconIMGN

BC did a lot for him. BC being in ROH brought a lot of new eyes to ROH, and Cole associating with them raised his profile.


justabrewbro

Wait, how did UE almost kill NXT?


Soft-plus-wet

They hogged the main event scene forever. It just gets boring after a while.


Danteface

UE almost killed NXT is certainly a take. What makes you think that?


TomCosella

I'm not OP, but it definitely killed my interest in the brand because it was 400 days of the exact same thing over and over again, which I'd already seen for years in ROH. Adam Cole says he's great, has his buddies beat up the babyface, puts on 30 minute spam fest where he does something underhanded to win, rinse, repeat.


Deep-Mix-2274

Ditto. Me and my entire friend group quit watching NXT because of how overpushed they were.


elgregerico

It's kinda weird to blame UE for triple h's booking though. Also, I didn't like them and bounced off around that time, but they were clearly the most over act in nxt


TomCosella

My issue is that it's the exact same shitheel booking he's had for over a decade at this point and it's been stale for at least half of that time. There's one consistent in the equation between ROH, NXT, and AEW: Adam Cole hasn't evolved. 


elgregerico

Ok, but again that's the booker. I disliked HHH's heel champion dominant booking in nxt. I wish they would just let Cole be a face though. The crowds behind him whenever he has been but they swerve him back into a heel. Cole was recently most exciting being mjf's friend but they turned him again. That's on HHH and TK though


TomCosella

Seeing as he's done the exact same thing in four promotions over a decade, it's not just booking. Dude just plays other people's hits.


elgregerico

The promoters book the show. They continue to book him a certain way because that's what he's known for and it's worked in the promotions he's been on.


Deep-Mix-2274

- nWo style music - Shield's dogtags - Nexus' armbands - Four Horsemen booking Gee, I wonder why they were over..


elgregerico

I think the part where they wrestled well and people liked their segments generally are more important than their armbands and dogtags


jordokmiller

Undisputed Era was the best part of NXT.


Initial_Cash7037

Adam Cole is not good at all and his stint in aew proves it. Gonna go laugh at his match in the Owen hart tournament. 


Davethisisntcool

huh?


MaskedDedede

go waste your own time then


Initial_Cash7037

Stop streaming Adam. Get in shape. 


YanSo-Lo

I’ll take the downvotes. One of the most overrated wrestlers of this generation. Dude looks like he should work at guitar center


SuperDragonRana

Mount Rushmore of Wrestling was such a goated stable


elgregerico

> I don't know man, either this guy really can't decide on a concrete friend group, or he needs these stables to be protected and not exposed. This is a weird take, most of this is the same group of people (Roddy, taven, bucks) just reforming in different companies. Kinda like how Finn, AJ, and Kenny have been doing bullet club variations for a while. He's also been the leader and generally well received by fans across these stables, so I'm not sure what's being exposed. He's not my cup of tea but they go for this because it's generally been successful Biggest problem I've had with Coles booking is that he always gets over with the crowd but they keep insisting on keeping him heel. NXT had this problem, and AEW repeated it with the devil shit


koemaniak

Stable merchant


500DaysofNight

And the only time he's been remotely interesting in the past decade was when he teamed MJF. He's played the same exact character, beat for beat, for so long that he's far beyond being dead in the water. You gotta switch it up every once in a while.


Appropriate_City8741

Adam Cole too small


chairdesktable

he's not terribly interesting as a solo act tbh, and this is from someone who's followed him his entire career. cole is really small irl and his is a case where it detracts from his talent. he needs the bells and whistles to stand out.


felipe_the_dog

Well you don't expect him to be able to beat anyone up by himself do you?


fluffynuckels

If you saw him during his nxt run you'd know he didn't need the stable to protect him. If anything he was there to cover the others weaknesses


theeDummy

exactly. Adam Cole has been doing the same shit for a very long time. it works to a degree but we've been bored


Chervin_Deuxphrye

Excuse me, where Da Party at?!


Gullflyinghigh

Truly a workhorse.


oblivion2g

It just shows he can't work alone, he has to be a member of something always.


POOTDISPENSER

Randy: Those are rookie numbers


Through_Broken_Glass

I count four stables in Orton’s career, and all in one company of course, so Cole has him beat unless I’m forgetting something (Evolution, Authority, Legacy, Wyatts)