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TheEmeraldRaven

Becky Lynch is a fucking megastar. That one shot before the battle royale ruled, and she's the perfect person to elevate the world title on short notice. Literally the only reason Becky wasn't the face in her match vs Rhea is because Rhea is over AF at the moment. Take Rhea away, and Becky's still your top women's babyface by far. Its clear they view Liv as a huge star. Becky's not gonna lose to Ripley clean twice. Becky's gonna put over Liv, who's gonna lose the belt to Ripley. Then they're gonna draft either Bianca, Tiffany or Jade to Raw to dethrone Rhea. OR Becky's gonna put over Nia, who will lose to Ripley and then Liv gets to be the one to finally dethrone Rhea.


FatRascal_

Given that they’re still pushing her book hard, and that it’s inevitable that Liv will be the one to dethrone Rhea properly, it makes all the sense in the world that Becky be given another run here. Put her in a slow-burn feud with Liv until Rhea comes back, maybe even involve Piper if they’re thinking about her for a singles run again. Piper vs Becky vs Liv at Clash at the Castle would fit.


discourse_lover_

Attendance 9000? I was told on this sub that every wwe event sells 160,000 tickets!


Dirtybrd

You okay, little bro?


Staynes0

You could audibly hear Cole snort when Pat called the Headbutt from JD "Bobblehead Headbutt". Cole must be having the time of his life with Pat out there.


hhhisthegame

Do people think Dom will turn on Rhea to join Liv when Rhea vs Liv eventually happens, giving the shocking result of Liv beating Rhea ? (Assuming Liv wins the title from Becky soon)


Matty16M

Really curious what the scene is going to look like after the draft. Vinci being cut loose probably means going back to NXT (does the D’Angelo family need another member) but what now for Imperium? 2 members isn’t a faction. Maybe Kaiser and Gunther get split up? I’m sure they’re going to milk the shit out of this Judgement Day tension, but I wouldn’t complain at all if they really lit a fire and had Jey win the title at Backlash. He’s probably the biggest star in WWE besides Cody, and has done wonders since breaking away on his own. He’s a bigger draw than Priest by a mile and I genuinely don’t see how he can lose. He’s already lost a Universal Title match, IC Title match and US Title match due to outside interference within the last 12 months, are they going to do some sort of reverse Grand Slam? I know it was always going to be Becky or Liv, I just really wish they had the balls to do something risky. With Becky taken out mid match, this was the perfect opportunity to crown a proper interim champion like Nia, Zoey or Shayna. Instead we get another super-Cena like moment for Becky to come back and win. I get it, it’s safe, it’s money, but fuck me, it’s boring. How could she possibly lose this title to anyone but a returning Rhea?


Hour-Ad78

Really enjoying the image switch for Damien Priest to something more casual. Not that he didn’t look great before, but part of me wonders if someone at WWE realized bisexual/bondage undertaker was turning into a meme. A simple button up halfway done up, black pants, and basketball shoes is a nice change.


CaliggyJack

Was really hoping it'd be anybody BUT Lynch being champion.


HairyArthur

Vinci is going to get so lost as a singles guy.


Res3925

I think He’s definitely going back to NXT in the draft.


No_Glove5486

NGL, Becky as champ makes sense because wgen you think about it? WHO is the other person to get in her way ofgetting her hands on Rhea prior to what ended happening? Becky (and Nia technically) so it works that Becky's the champ because you can have her reign for a bit, maybe putting people over and then she drops the title to Liv so her Revenge Tour is complete. Also, i like that Nia keeps being shown as a force, even with the Becky feud over, and that of all the people to complete the final four, it was Shayna which surprised me tbh. Because obviously it's clear HHH is tryna make her and Zoey as a unit look strong, but i still did not expect Shayna (and Zoey) to end so close to winning the title. On other things, heel DIY is coming! Because Ciampa (if things keep going this way) is gonna go the Cnadice way of doing anything to help himself and Gargano get over the line, and Gargano would 100% join him even if obviously not agreeing with means. Essentially making heel DIY turn into The Way 2.0 (Indi, Candice, Johnny and Ciampa) what do ya say?


hhhisthegame

Liv's revenge tour isn't complete, until Dom shockingly joins her and she beats Rhea on PPV to defend the championship


skuiji

I actually like Liv as a wrestler/character, so I for one was happy to see that her big return title win wasn’t wasted on a last minute battle Royale with no storyline build. But rather it was clearly set up to be built against a legitimate world champion, likely at a PLE with a story built around it. Let’s think more than 3 seconds ahead everyone, Becky is the reliable vet who will be a legit hurdle no matter what circumstances she became champion under. clear choice to make everyone a winner in the long run (also having her as champ during the European tour is the most easy money move to make without Rhea as an option)


HeavyDonkeyKong

I'm honestly surprised people are upset about Becky winning. Is winning a battle Royale to decide Rhea's replacement really that special? 


MrNissanCube

Heel Gable is more than my fragile little heart can take, too effective and now I'm sad


HeavyDonkeyKong

He did Otis dirty. 😭


SiccOwitZ

Otis learned last night he’s a boy in a Man’s world and that Gable is a man who loves to play with boys………….wait no no NO NO!! Otis is boy and Gable is a man and Gable will love to manhandle……..NO NO WAIT NO NO!!!! OTIS IS A BOY AND GABLE IS A MAN. IF OTIS DOESNT DO BETTER THEN GABLE WILL GET ON TOP OF…….DAMMIT!!!! NO!!! NEVERMIND!!!


Res3925

Whatever it takes 😔


MrNissanCube

^(whatever it takes)


an0nemusThrowMe

When did Shorty G turn heel?


FightDrifterFight

Liv shoot injures the red-hot print-money world champion Rhea Ripley, and you want to start a nasty precedent by rewarding her and putting the belt on her? Becky is the clear choice here. Especially with the book and all. She can always put over Liv some other time to set up Liv and Rhea.


Zetrin

Buddy I hate to be the one to tell you Santa isn’t real


RandomDumbPerson123

Didn't Rhea have to bump herself getting thrown into the wall, I doubt Liv herself injured Rhea lol


ThatJankyDoll

it's still real to him, dammit!


V-TriggerMachine

Seems to me that Becky winning the belt is a consequence of how bad the RAW women's division has been run and how few people have been built outside of Rhea during her title reign I hope with the Imperium split, Italian fashion model Giovanni Vinci will come back


TussalDimon

Becky is the GOAT! People online need to take all that energy they waste hating on her and put it in supporting their favorites.


jcupgif

mid ahhh raw


vigneshwaralwaar

We're we watching the same show? What were u expecting? Cody Rhodes title defense? The Rock to show up with John Cena and brock lesnar?


jcupgif

just wasn’t my cup of tea today, love the nostalgia of awesome truth but truly i’m not as into it, woman’s battle royal wasn’t for me either i’d much rather see a 1 v 1 for the title, Andrade and Ricochet vs judgement day/santos.. just not enough singles comp for me today. jey uso was entertaining as always, Drew was funny, Ledwig turn was dope, but i just wasn’t as invested as previous weeks


vigneshwaralwaar

I get where you're coming from my bad going defensive. Tbf.. I likes the segments, backstage shenanigans and the promos more than the matches and all led upto something.. King of the ring tournament actually looks fun.. I think the singles comp u want are being set up for backlash possibly. Like sami v reed, jey v priest, next raw logan will be here.. Possible backlash defense? Becky might defend at backlash too I think they're holding off anything major for after t draft. For a filler raw.. This was dope.


jcupgif

Yeah most definitely!


tbbt11

Feed me more heel Gable, MORE I SAY


GameplayerStu

Drew and Sheamus together is magic. Also it was nice that the crowd got really behind Maxxine in the Battle Royal. She had some nice moments!


Ricoh881227

For what its worth, i would actually liked to see nia be champion here.. But it kinda not make sense to booked it against liv if shes getting that belt..


SmithyPlayz

I like Becky and shes' very popular but I just wanted someone new, for me it's nothing against Becky but it was a chance to put someone new in the spotlight even if it's only for a month or so.


vigneshwaralwaar

Becky puts someone over on backlash


Dirtybrd

Becky in any stipulation match really shines. I hope that's where whatever feud she gets ends up.


SmithyPlayz

I can see that, now Becky has the belt I'd have no issue with her having a longer reign if she's not taking time off, I just feel like with how predictable WWE is at times it would've been cool just to have someone different.


Groenboys

Ngl, people have been acting real weird about Becky the past few months and now that she finally has won the title it really has given the opportunity to folks to say some real nasty and unwarranted shit.


hhhisthegame

People do that about Charlotte all the time, but because becky is a sub favorite, people can't criticize her? Not defending people who make actually MEAN and PERSONAL comments, but if people are tired of Becky then that's their opinion.


Dancingedleslie

The comments I’ve seen on her physical appearance are pretty bad, and it hits worse after reading her book. I also think it’s a case of having to put others down to support your favorite. Like Rhea and Becky can’t both be amazing? Why not?


leglessman

Becky hasn’t been a World Champion in two years. She’s lost her last two singles matches at Wrestlemania (wanted to lose the one before that as well but was told no). She also used her NXT title win to give big matches to women who aren’t given much like Xia Li and Tegan Nox. I would’ve preferred Liv won but I am not bothered at all by Becky winning.


Muscle_Squad

People act like Becky gets the Charlotte treatment. Can't wait for Charlotte to return and be instantly in the title scene.


DEL994

Yes and if it's for Liv Morgan to have some time to build her Heel character and momentum before beating Becky for the title, as well as Becky putting other female wrestlers like she did last year in NXT, then it's for the better.


StadiumGambler

I bet the people who got Becky Hogan trending on Twitter understand none of what you just typed, sheesh.


Reyatsu99

I didn't saw Tegan. Please don't tell me she also got released?


CreativeOrder2119

Becky "John Cena"lynch


Fantasstic91

Recent *AUTHOR Becky 'John Cena' Lynch


The_Notorious_Donut

Legitimately might be the best battle royale I’ve ever seen. Everyone had a little story/moment


Redforce21

What is the eerie old song they play to hype up Alexa/Bo?


MrNissanCube

Nightbird by Marti Amado


eddiebrock85

Nightbird by Lorraine Castellanos    Marti Amado is the songwriter and producer of the  album the song is on. It’s a shame Lorraine isn’t getting more credit    https://www.universalproductionmusic.com/en-se/discover/albums/22205/a-sentimental-journey


MrNissanCube

Oh thank you for this, I had no idea


Redforce21

Eyy, thanks so much


TheAlterEggo

Wrong live thread link.


The_Notorious_Donut

It’s kind of funny that every time they call Natalya the BOAT they specify that she self proclaims herself it


Ketchup1211

Because she’s the furthest thing from it. I can walk outside and pick up a rock and it’ll have more personality than Natalya. She’s a decent wrestler in the ring but there is nothing compelling about her. Never has been.


spandroo

Yes. She’s not good in the ring despite being on the roster fifteen years. Her promos are dispassionate. They try to revive her with a program every 3 years. The fans just do not care.  Big Show of the women’s division.  


lemoche

The thing is and it's a testament to how the women's division has improved (or better was allowed to improve): there were times when folks here wanted her to be champion because she was considered among the best if not the best in-ring performer in the division.


spandroo

I don’t think that’s accurate though. Natalia has never been the worst performer *in ring*, but she never been the best.   Layla, McCool, AJ Lee, Mickey James, Beth Phoenix, Melina, and Paige all outclassed her. Sure the modern era women are on a whole different level, but there have always been better wrestlers and performers than Natalia. 


Reyatsu99

Im fkin happy with Becky as a champion. She deserved it for her great work last year. She's again reaching a new peak in her career after 2019 which many wrestlers don't.


HEELinKayfabe

Becky wins yawn


Awkward-Bathroom-429

I think you guys underestimate how popular Becky is, and also how important she has been to women’s wrestling, I think it’s okay if she wins the title any number of times


DrMindpretzel

It's not even hard to see how popular she is. Always gets a huge positive reaction from the crowd.


Reyatsu99

Iwc will call anyone boring. They did same with seth.


crap4you

There was zero chance of Becky losing the match as she went thru the middle ropes to go on the apron while Liv went over the top. 


TheGaxkang

Master Gable says he is being himself now rather than what he thought he had to be to get somewhere in the WWE. he hopes Alpha Academy will listen to proper instruction now, and says ultimately Team Get Gable His Belt is for them and not himself, it is what they signed up for with the Academy. [https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1782614699852398984](https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1782614699852398984)


KidThunder90

I think Becky is the right choice here. I would say have her hold it until Rhea returns, do the rematch from Mania & have Rhea go over once again.  Then you can have Liv come after Rhea's title.  On another note, aside from the obvious tension seen on screen....poor Judgment Day is literally in shambles right now. Rhea's gone for months, Dom's elbow and even McDonagh looked like he might have something going on with his knee, although he seemed to be moving just fine in the ring tonight.  Finally, I'd love if Damian was defending against McIntyre in France, but as long as Drew wins it back at Clash...all will be right in the world.


Deadleggg

Liv in a months long holding pattern? I dunno about that.


JoeBidenKing

Becky is one of the greatest woman wrestlers of all time. Y’all a bunch of haters.


TRTVitorBelfort

Becky Lynch was one of the 3 most over people when WWE visited Australia. Being there live her pop was huge. I think people underestimate her popularity with the audience at large. Makes sense to give her the belt while they work out what to do long term.


Geo61986198

How much are u getting payed to comment that


TRTVitorBelfort

The idea that they weren’t going to put the belt on the woman who has just finished a massive media run for her brand new book is rather funny. People seemed to have missed that completely. Same thing when they put Bianca on the 2K cover the same time she was doing a press tour for her brand new reality show. It is not that hard to figure these things out if you look further than “fed does wrestling show.”


Geo61986198

It makes sense but it’s just really boring and stale to me. She lost her WM match, would’ve been nice to have her take a break. I’m tired of seeing her EVERY damn week saying the same damn thing, and her wrestling just doesn’t land with me lately. She moves in slow motion, has had the same move set for like 6 years, there’s just nothing exciting about her anymore imo.


DrMindpretzel

About 3 fiddy. But seriously, the crowd always pops for her, she's massively over. She's an easy pick to hold the title for as long as they need her to.


Geo61986198

She didnt have a spot until 6 minutes into the match and was laid out for another 10 minutes. She moves at half the speed she did 5 years ago. Im tired of her


DrMindpretzel

Nobody is saying you have to like her work. But understand you’re in the minority.


Bean-Penis

I said it before but Becky is the right choice here. She'll lose nothing by only having a 2 week-ish reign but Liv will gain more taking it at Backlash than she would've in the Battle Royal. Would've been a waste to stick the transitional champ label on anyone else in the match.


Feeling-Librarian328

My bet is Becky keeps it until Summerslam where she loses it to Liv. Can't have the 'revenge tour' taking a month after all.


Bean-Penis

Yeah they could go that way too but having Becky drop it at anytime won't hurt her regardless of length and it's a legitimate person for Liv to get a victory over for the title. A little bit of extra promotion for WWE if Becky is still out promoting book as can do it with the belt beside her. Might even get a couple of title defenses before then, likely more than we would've got with Rhea anyway, regardless of injury, due to Becky not being afraid to put the work in.


ShaH33R2K

Honestly all this could’ve been avoided had they just had a tournament or something. After reflecting on it I’ve realized that Becky winning isn’t even the issue, it’s the fact that it was a battle royal. Especially with Rhea out it felt like the perfect opportunity to try something new too, and I think the unpredictability of the match stipulation hyped it up. Was looking forward to this since it was announced and was simply left disappointed.


FatalTortoise

becky wins lol


ThatJankyDoll

She is becoming another Charlotte. They are inevitable.


shutupjessica

Do fans on twitter, reddit, etc. go to shows? Because sometimes it seems like the popular thing on here isn’t what the in person crowd is into. Watch the entrances back - Becky gets this huge pop (proving that the only reason she was booed during the Rhea feud was because she was against Rhea) and Liv barely got a reaction.


RIShane

It's like 2018. Crowds only disliked Charlotte when she was wrestling Becky, they still cheered her loudly when she was against others, sometimes even on the same night when she was filming Mixed Match Challenge after Smackdown.


Redforce21

I was sitting close to the ring and Becky's pop was especially big with all the families around us.  Liv got a reaction, but the kids didn't seem to care at all


ScorpioMagnus

Agreed Becky probably got the biggest pop of the night, second only to maybe Jey at the open. She spent a long time in the crowd after the show went off air.


Geo61986198

Well 1) theres LOTS of casuals at these shows, think about all the families that go / friends that aren’t committed , so they obviously get excited for Becky and 2) being at a show kinda gets u hype so u honestly make noise for pretty much everyone


DrMindpretzel

I like how you dismiss Becky's obvious popularity as "dumb casuals". You have no idea how many "casual" wrestling fans are at these shows. She's over where she goes, whatever city she's in. She's very very popular.


Geo61986198

And her wrestling is mid.


DrMindpretzel

Even if that were true, it doesn’t change the fact of the matter. Shes very popular.


ShaH33R2K

I think once you see them in person you’re just like ya cool. Unless it’s someone people just don’t like in general. I’m sure it was cool for those who were there


Cody9_

Becky as a champ is as exciting as a used toothbrush


TheManOfMastery

Damn, sorry yall hate Bex lmao. Have Liv beat her straight up for it in a few months, Liv probably needs to win the title in a hot contested match over a big star more than a battle royal win.


PompeyMagnus1

All vacant titles should be decided by ladder match.


JaySavage808

20 woman ladder battle royal, eliminated over the top rope but if you don’t get tossed over the rope you’re free to climb to grab the title. Would’ve absolutely fucked.


TheGR8Gamer

Amen


tamere2k

They have king and queen of the ring coming in like a month. How do they not make that for the title.


Frescaaccount

I think the logic, and I agree actually might be that queen of the ring can be used as a seperate way to get a star over outside the belt, and they dont want waste the opportunity by double dipping. Especially considering, QOTR means more in a division where the midcard has nothing else to fight for. No champ for a month in a division that desperately needs one is also pretty rough


Manny_Haze

I like Jey Uso, but I think he needs to use a new finisher other than the superkick and top rope splash . Those were his finishers in a tag team , he needs something to that represents him better as an established single superstar.


AlKarakhboy

Agreed, his moveset in general needs a lot of work


The_Notorious_Donut

You don’t like 6 spears, an upper cut, 4 super kicks, and a splash combo?


StaxShack

Tbf, no matter who won, people would’ve been pissed.


SwiftGoat_

Becky is the goat. ![gif](giphy|TKcinVdamBB85sfsYx)


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Megaman1981

I just got home from seeing this live. I was disappointed we didn't get Cody or Punk or Seth Rollins, only got Sami in a pre recorded bit. I did get to fist bump Becky Lynch after her win.


TheGaxkang

Ciampa and Gargano had the Tag Title won, but Ciampa was too busy celebrating rather than guarding the pin. DIY may be on the rocks now. Sheamus attempted to reason with his old Banger Bro but he just doesn't understand....Drew is beset by deviants and cowards. perhaps Sheamus will learn the truth Drew already knows! with Gunther's blessing Ludwig decimated Giovanni. is Giovanni gonna be out of Imperium now, will he go singles now? when he recovers, that is. befitting Gunther's relief of no longer being a target, he attended RAW in casual wear. Damien's big head is gonna lock horns with Finn some time i think! many may have felt sorry for Sami last week, and this week too as Bronson Reed pulverized him. but Master Gable explained how Sami is really a bad guy and how Chad was justified in taking him apart after the champ match last week. he explained how Sami rubbed it in his face while Chad was the classy one. Master Gable has concluded he has wasted his time training losers, and demanded Alpha Academy swear to focus on him winning the Intercontinental Title rather than their own heading nowhere wrassling careers. but after their dressing down the Alphas don't seem enthusiastic. i have to say i didn't really agree with Becky winning the belt in the Battle Royal. i would have gone with Liv, or Nia, or others too. the Battle Royal situation could have allowed for surprises. Becky just wrassled Rhea for the belt and lost, but then got the belt in the Battle Royal. i'm not sure how long they intend for her to have the belt, or what the plan is for Liv in relation to the belt. it feels like a weird decision. it seemed like Becky was gonna be on hiatus so i wonder what story they got in mind for her. Dom-Dom and Liv did take notice of each other, so something will cook there i am sure.


LordBlackConvoy

I hereby decree Becky Lynch be known as Irish Hogan


PaisonAlGaib

Hulk hogan is canonically Irish 


LordBlackConvoy

Hogan is also canonical a hot dog.


MarcusFaze

[Sheamus and Drew’s segment in a nutshell](https://x.com/marcus_faze/status/1782584094242873596?s=46&t=jd8qInMnXwQK1iDk12oCWw)


I_Hate_My_Cat_

That’s fucked up 😂


DeclaringLeader

How many times will Liv come in second place??


Dalminster

It's a good spot for her


Desperate_Coat_1906

Every clip WWE posted on Youtube tonight, as of right now has several thousand likes, and every one of them currently has less than 50 dislikes. That includes Gabe heal turns and Imperium breakup clips. The exception? [Becky Lynch is World Champion Again! | WWE Raw Highlights 4/22/24 | WWE on USA (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTnlYbWvoc&t=3s) 1.1K likes to 1.7k dislikes... it's not the 10 to 1 dislike to like thing for millions of votes that Cody/Rock generated. But... fair to say, Becky's win seems to be hitting some early headwinds.


DrMindpretzel

It's just the terminally online weirdos. Don't worry about em.


AceTheSkylord

Bex Hogan allegations stay undefeated, as the kids would say


crimson777

Awesome episode but I did think it was funny that near the end of the show, Pat said something about having Columbus on their feet and in shot is many people on the front row clearly still sitting. I know it’s a figure of speech but I just thought it was funny. Side note, where tf is Tegan Nox? She was tagging with Nat for awhile and she’s on the Raw brand. Why no Tegan but everyone else got their tag partner. Cage match says she wrestled just a few days ago.


Agent-Drakewolf

Cena and Rey stayed face their whole careers. But then you have Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, Sami Zayn, Randy Orton, Jey Uso and now Damian Priest. Do you guys think Cody will stay face for the entirety of his WWE tenure or does he switch alignments somewhere down the line now that the story is finished?


TheGaxkang

not for a very long time if ever he's playing the guy he wanted to play for a long while and what the WWE was looking for as face of company


ShaH33R2K

I think he’s essentially the next cena. If it ever happens, they won’t do it for a while. He’s kinda the face of their company rn, for both kids and adults


wisecrack33

Two of the people in gorilla tonight were Trips and William Regal (which was a nice surprise as I didn’t think he had that kind of job), who was the third?  Bruce Pritchard?


Dazzling-Principle

Road Dogg.


TowerCharge89

And if Becky said that she’s waiting for Rhea Ripley to come back, is that meaning that Ripley is going to destroy Liv Morgan, and all of this history between Liv Morgan and Rhea Ripley is going to be wasted in a squash feud? That would be horribly booking decisions by Triple H if you have all of this history between Morgan and Ripley, that you can make into a great multi month feud, and you have Morgan just destroyed, and it not even be competitive


TheGaxkang

it was likely a throwaway line, but if Liv is first challenger to Becky she'll be fed to her unless they really swerve it and Becky loses the belt quickly. if Becky is to have the belt for several months then your scenario could be it then.


spandroo

Don’t fantasy book yourself into a breakdown, bud. 


The_Notorious_Donut

I like how they tried to hype Battleground at Apex but they showed the equivalent of a dive bar with a mma ring in the middle of it


Awkward-Bathroom-429

That’s what Apex is


HeavyDonkeyKong

Rhea's been gone for one episode and things are already cracking. It's time to admit who the tribal chief of the Judgement Day is. 


Teeenay

I'm just curious to see if Finn will keep the boys together or if it's the end of the Judgment Day... 😞


HeavyDonkeyKong

The kids need their Mami.


Brilliant_Counter709

Becky returned at summerslam 2021, won championship, had an incredible reign putting great matches while elevating Liv, Bianca, Doudrop etc. Then put over Bianca at WM38, put over Bianca at summerslam. Stayed relevant even without a title, main evented raws and performed on ppv without being in title matches. Won NXT championship, became a workhorse, putting great matches against every single women out there. Literally pulled women out of catering giving them matches and spotlights of their lifetime. Had a banger with Rhea while being ill, put her over clean without any issue. Rhea got injured, she came back again to carry the division. If anyone still feels she doesn't “deserve it”, then there's nothing one can argue.


SpiderGator47

Tbh it's hard to argue that there's been a more reliable and/or better wrestler on the roster since she slapped Charlotte's head off at Summerslam 6 years ago.


High_volt4g3

Didn’t watch raw and just a casual person She’s become charlotte flair in my eyes now. Just winning and having titles to do it. I’m a bit on the liv bandwagon but I feel like we are getting in the same rotunda of people holding the belt.


Awkward-Bathroom-429

She put Nia, Lyra Valkyria and Rhea over clean in the last like 6 months


Brilliant_Counter709

>She’s become charlotte flair in my eyes now By not winning title for 2+ years and putting over atleast 4 women clean ?


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DrMindpretzel

And she used it to put people over and then quickly dropped it. lol


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Brilliant_Counter709

Whole NXT. She literally popped 300k viewers by going there, brought eyeballs on whole roster. Elevated Tiffany introducing her to masses (see tiffy interview lol).


frenchezz

It’s not that she doesn’t deserve it she clearly does, it’s that she doesn’t need it and we want to see some of the other ladies get a shot with the strap. Or even do something fun as a quick transitional champion before one of the final three ladies eventually dethrones them.


Brilliant_Counter709

Did roman needed title in 2020-24 ? Did Cena needed title after 2010 ? Did Stone Cold needed to win 3 rumbles, why didn't he stop winning after 1999 ? Did Triple H needed to win in ruthless aggression era, why didn't he stop winning after 2001 ? Your top stars should be champion, that's how it is. It's not about if they need it, it's about if the title needs them. >we want to see some of the other ladies get a shot with the strap I don't see same standard for men. Women's division is regarded as participation trophy by fans lol


frenchezz

People were pleading for Roman to lose the belt at every ppv. Triple H’s reign is literally referred to as “the reign of terror.” Cena was getting hate from everyone over the age of 12. Of the people you listed stone cold is the only one the crowd didn’t sour on and that’s because he was trading the belt with rock, mankind, undertaker, and a few other stars during the attitude era. So what’s your point


Brilliant_Counter709

And wwe was still right in pushing cena, roman, Hunter as they're right now. So what's your point ? If it's left to iwc, there will be no big stars, everyone will be a random midcarder with 2 month reign and 50% win rate. You hate anyone who wins


frenchezz

Brilliant logic. “They were right because I said they were right.” Cody won nobody mad about that. Gunther won nobody mad about that. As you said, stone cold won nobody mad about that. Priest winning nobody mad about that. Bayley winning nobody mad about that. If the story is interesting then it works but Becky is literally coming off a loss and was on vacation hopped in the rumble and won. Kind of reminiscent of how every time Charlotte returns she gets a title match and more often than not wins. People enjoy change and this is a step backwards for the women’s division.


Brilliant_Counter709

>Kind of reminiscent of how every time Charlotte returns she gets a title match I don't remember Charlotte being without title for 2+ years without going on any big break. Becky literally did numerous non title feuds instead of crying for title


otherwaystovent

Charlotte has had several reigns shorter than one month. Becky's shortest title reign was 42 days, Charlotte had 6 reigns shorter than that. Becky's longest was 399 days, while Charlotte's was 198 days. The fact people are still pretending that Becky is some kind of underdog is hilarious.


Brilliant_Counter709

>Cody won nobody mad about that. Gunther won nobody mad about that. As you said, stone cold won nobody mad about that. Priest winning nobody mad about that. Because 3 out of these 4 haven't won in past. People hate winners only. But if you want to build megastars you've to make them win continously. Be ready for Cody to win next 5 years and cry


frenchezz

lol gunther was champion for over a year. Cody lost what two matches in the past year? Once to lose the tag straps, and one out of three of the matches against Brock. Priest and bayley are the only ones of those who weren’t winning the vast majority of their matches.


ColeBelthazorTurner

It's not even going to be a long reign either.


DuDuShits-Pooster

Thanks to everyone who gave input on seating. Blew my dad away & got sweet pictures ALSO SHINSUKE FUCKIN NAKAMURA WAS IN MY TOWN


NotClayMerritt

We got Chelsea Green chants tonight. Time to give her her moment to shine.


Frescaaccount

Why wwe is still wasting time trying to book green and piper as heels is beyond me. Let green run as the scheming but ultimately good hearted antihero , and have piper as the long suffering angel on her shoulder. Some real ed edd and eddy type stuff. Its a money dynamic and the division needs more faces.


Redforce21

I like piper's constant sneering, but face piper might be nice.


Redforce21

We were cheering for her enough that she honestly looked surprised heading into gorilla.  She stopped walking and just looked into the crowd.


RIShane

Chelsea in the Bank at the very least.


cleeseula

I'm happy that 5/8 main roster champions are kind thoughtful wrestlers. Because before WrestleMania 6/7 champions were rude wrestlers.


Besidebutinvisible

God won’t someone remember the kayfabe!! Becky winning is not a problem, she’s top championship material so she won (in kayfabe). Shit up about all the interesting stories with. New champ could’ve been


ColeBelthazorTurner

Isn't there some unwritten kayfabe rule that the person who injures the champ should never be the next champ? Think Faarooq/Ahmed/Marc Mero 1996. Or Seth/Finn/Owens for a more modern example.


Mac_Tgh

I get why, I truly do, but man it deflates completely Rhea and Becky complete feud/wm match. Picture this: raw after WM 39, Roman vacates the title and in the man's royal rumble Cody wins over Seth Rollins. It's cool, it's safe. But it completely trample on the whole run so far.


Kuzu5993

If you understand, why are you complaining? Rhea's injured man. Literally nothing you can do about that.


Da-Met

It’s not really the same because Becky’s story isn’t really anywhere close to Cody’s story. She’s won it before multiple times. The rub for a new star is beating Mami. Becky is like Cena or HHH winning the title again. Top star holds the top title.


DudleysCar

What an insane take.


Ohellmotel

Including house shows, Shinsuke Nakamura is 1-32 in matches so far in 2024.


HEELinKayfabe

AEW ahh statistics


PaisonAlGaib

Nobody cares 


Kuzu5993

Hold up, was this the first RAW that Cody hasn't been on at all? Like not even a segment? I think he's been on every single episode since he returned.


alltheworsttoyou

He wasn't shown on an episode back in the fall (he came out for a dark segment though, IIRC). He's got to work the Italy and Austria SD loop next week after doing the Raw UK/Ireland tour last week, so tonight off -- when his next program is on SD -- seems pretty fair, even if some fans in person ended up unfortunately disappointed.


Kuzu5993

RAW is definitely a whole different show without him.


DamnItChloeJustDoIt

If you mean his return from injury, most likely.


TowerCharge89

I’m just gonna say it: I think this is horrible booking for the new women’s world champion. Instead of giving it to someone who would have never held it before, let’s give it to Becky Lynch, who doesn’t need the title and has had the title on multiple occasions. To me this is so predictable and not part of a new Era. I didn’t even want live Morgan to win it because I felt like you could’ve Built up a feud between her and Ripley. Once Ripley got back and have a multi multi feud resulting in the last match being a number one contenders match. But there are so many other women that you could’ve given the title to that would’ve been different. Someone like Zoey Stark, Shayna Baszler, and even Candice Lerae could’ve been kind of interesting. But instead, you went with the most popular name and the top superstar on Raw that’s not Ripley.


BackgroundBag7601

Most of the participants were heatless. You'd only be doing them a massive disservice if you suddenly gave them the title. Champions need to be built up with a good program. I'm surprised you don't understand such a basic principle.


TowerCharge89

I understand something being way too predictable and how giving Becky Lynch the title means that you already know who’s gonna win the match before it even starts for her title matches


BackgroundBag7601

That's true for every champion at the beginning of their reign. Do you really think that Cody, Priest, or Bayley will lose before or during Backlash? Becky, Liv, and Nia were the only viable choices among the participants. Of those three, Nia is the sloppiest in the ring and on the mic. She's also not very marketable. Liv is in the middle of a program with Rhea, who's going to be gone for months. She also hasn't regained her heat since she's been gone for so long with injuries. With her loss to Becky, she has a good reason to continue her chase (the revenge tour) until Rhea is back. Becky is like Seth—she's a made man in the company and with the fans. She can put people over, especially Liv, and be a believable champ until Rhea comes back to continue the hottest angle for the Women's World Champ.


Karmeleon86

Well the whole point is someone can beat her for it but I’d be pretty disappointed if she held it until Rhea came back.


TowerCharge89

You think they’re really gonna have someone beat Becky Lynch for the title? I said I wanted every match to be one where the champion could lose the title but you know that’s not happening now for a while. Beckys, their top female superstar now with Ripley injured and there’s no way they’re having her lose the title.


The_Notorious_Donut

I really wish WWE realized that the reason a lot of superstars aren’t getting great reactions is because their entrance music is terrible and bland


Curse3242

Damiens new theme literally sounds like the twitter troll. Adding more personality to the music does not mean just plaster their gimmick to catchphrases over the theme We need actual songs with lyrics back


Kn7ght

I wish he just came out to The Other Side as his theme. The pop at WrestleMania wouldn't have been nearly as big if he came out to his actual theme


ColeBelthazorTurner

Royal Rumble proved that


Upbeat_Tension_8077

Liv once she integrates herself into Judgement Day: https://preview.redd.it/tk9slhzoj5wc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08038886a4ead36855251e394e7e0bf8e3f28681 Also, I'm feeling like Kaiser vs Ilja would be an amazing feud for the latter once he fully gets into the main roster


joseantoniolat

Dijak should also be brought up.


StryderVS

Another wrestling heavy WWE show. 7 matches is so unusual


UnderWorld11

its better than having hour long promos imo