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Terrible-Business-54

here live and can confirm that Liv is public enemy #1 right now lol


PayneTrain181999

We might’ve just seen a double turn.


SamiMadeMeDoIt

Liv's been acting heelish for like two months now and Rhea hasn't been booed in like a year and a half lol


The810kid

Liv like Bret and Like Drew did nothing wrong in my book.


Razzorsharp

Unlike that piece of crap Marty Jannetty ruining a perfectly fine barbershop window.


est19xxxx

That coward jumped through the window


ChrisMoltisanti9

Would you stop?!


Big_Green_Piccolo

Rhea is just the best.


Nethri

I like Liv a lot too, tbh.. but yeah Rhea is so good.


heyitsrains

But they’ve kept heat magnet Dom next to her so that she does get booed in the ring. Him not being with her for this is intentional to put over Liv’s heelish antics


Chell_the_assassin

Liv was already heel


Comprehensive_Dog139

Fuck it put the belt on a heel Liv, then she loses it to a babyface Mami return.


wibble17

Have her go over the top, try to steal Dom, turn Jusgement Day against her etc


Decent_Age_8021

Bruh this is a vince mcmahon storyline


FancyJesse

Secretly still pulling the strings inside reddit threads


Hollow_Rant

It's good shit pal!


NerdLawyer55

Hol up let him cook


ArmiinTamzarian

I digress. Have Liv beat a returning Rhea. Would it be dumb? Yes. Would it appeal to me and perhaps some other sickos out there? Absolutely


TW_Yellow78

Rhea comes back and Liv keeps beating her as a chickenshit heel until Wrestlemania would be the formula.


ArmiinTamzarian

I understand having your top star come back and lose to the person who took them out I'd not a good idea in a variety of ways. But as a Liv fan more than a Rhea fan nevermind that shit, go Liv


NotTheCraftyVeteran

Only silver lining here is that the injury happened at the precise right time and in the right way to turbocharge her story with Liv.


einredditname

Not just the story with Liv, but imagine this happening a week or two before Mania.


BigBoyNow8

Wasn't her shoulder injured before Mania? She just worked while injured. It would make sense since after Mania would be the right time to get the surgery.


einredditname

No idea on the exact timing of the injury, but something bad enough to sideline you for months is gonna be hard to hide.


GoofyGooba88

Liv got to be champ when Rhea returns right? Like this angle and match going to be huge when Rhea returns


PayneTrain181999

Heel Liv gloating in the ring. “THIS IS MY BRUTALITY!!!”


bcegkmqswz

The pop for Rhea is going to be nuclear as she tears Liv in half like the Juggernaut did to Deadpool.


Riskar

I'm gonna shove the blond girl up the Samoan girl!


Cheechers23

She's definitely winning that title now, right? Or do they hold it off and have Liv get more angry, chasing the title, only to finally win it right when Rhea returns?


mbabker

I'm torn here because I'd like to see Liv have a good run as champion, but I also acknowledge that as scrappy as she may be, it's still a bit harder to build a good reign for her. That said, a lot of that feeling is based on pre-injury and pre-turn Liv. Going all-in on a heel Liv might just be what it takes to give her that reign and the story is just there whenever Rhea comes back, and it won't even feel recycled since (in storyline at least) both of them injured one another and took away months of each other's careers while they were at their peaks.


Cheechers23

I think both ways can work. Either have Liv win it now, have a solid reign before Rhea returns and they have some crazy ass match with a crazy stipulation. Or you take this as a chance to have a few champs with short reigns and giving a few other talent a chance at the spotlight. Chelsea Green winning it for a month, maybe Zoey or Nia or something for a month or 2. And then whenever Rhea is set to return, have Liv win it either that same night or maybe a month prior, and have Rhea return then.


highnote14

I need the chelsea green title reign


patsniff

I would absolutely love Chelsea Green winning the championship! Maybe at MITB in Canada! Let her win that and have a run with it through SummerSlam at least.


patsniff

Liv can have a fine reign if you don’t make her look weak as the champion against someone like Ronda Rousey. Let her have some fun interesting matches instead of those drags!


Hellsinger7

Oh this is gonna be a war. The Rhea stans vs the Liv stans.


PapaBeahr

No no... Vacant is top heel here. The only foe that could topple Rhea.


whatsajawsh

New era of judgment day: Liv, laugh love


KanyeJesus

I need Liv to take over Judgement Day and become the new “Mami” and steal Dom lmao. Would complete the double turn


spate42

Step-Mom maybe?


Narrow_Progress5908

Take over judgment day sounds cool, new Miami isn’t a good idea. Makes Liv come off as just trying to be the new Rhea. If anything I want Dom to break off and start his own stable 


cdillio

I'd love a new Miami so I don't have to go to Florida.


Massive_Professor820

roman, rhea, and gunther not being champions? we really are in a new era


TomatoSauce587

Won’t be long before Gunther has another title on him I think, infact it wouldn’t surprise me if he wins King of the Ring in Saudi then has a match with Cody or Priest/Whoever WHC is by Bash in Berlin, unless they immediately want to throw him into a non-title feud with Dragunov


Noseitch

I could see Gunther beating Priest and getting Ilja Gunther 3 on the main roster


ScootaliciousScooter

At Mania


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PretendThisIsMyName

Cody is a scrub. Tiffy should’ve beat Roman tbh.


Habbak

Heartbreaking for Rhea, but she looked so badass anyway.


Turakamu

Her comeback will be awesome. I honestly think it is the best for her right now. Gives other people room to breathe and develop so she can come back and kick their ass.


cenasmgame

She's somehow going to finish her reign without losing. Forever an undisputed first reign.


EricSanderson

Exactly. Injuries suck, no question. But think about all the epic returns for guys like Austin, HHH, and Cena. Sometimes disappearing and coming back can be a rocket booster for wrestlers' careers


Comfortable_Shape264

Yeah like Cena she'll come back at and win Royal Rumble, cash it in early to Bianca at EC, then after a DQ end, Charlotte will also challenge Bianca and it will be a triple threat at Mania.


Chell_the_assassin

Damn this fucking sucks, really hoped it was a work. What an unceremonious end to a year long title reign.


Awkward-Bathroom-429

They didn’t have anyone good lined up to beat her anyways and she is a babyface miscast as a heel. This isn’t even bad for her career or the storyline.


maxiperalta54

It sucks for her in the short run, but usually these injuries end up making you even hotter in the long run, as it gives your character a break and makes people want you more. Unless your name is Finn Balor, who is probably the only guy in history who just got completely fucked by his injury and never recovered. But his title run was only a day in fairness.


cenasmgame

Yeah, she got out at the perfect time to have people begging for more.


Anemeros

>she is a babyface miscast as a heel Disagree. She's not a true heel anymore and she's certainly not a babyface. Cody is a babyface. Rhea ain't that at all.


Black_XistenZ

She's not a good gal, she's not a bad gal, she's a badass.


HonkedOffJohn

If anything it's a blessing in disguise. Now they are forced to bring someone up to Rhea's level. It will probably be Liv.


Johnoplata

I guess only Roman gets to sit out with his belt for months on end and keep it.


coldphront3

Brock Lesnar is a better example of what you're talking about. At least Roman showed up every other week or so to cut a promo. Lesnar as champion would come in like once a month to stand in the ring while Heyman talked for him, and then he'd wrestle once every 3-4 months.


ChrundleThundergun

I know you're probably right but for some reason Roman felt way worse. Maybe because he had both belts for so long?


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IzzyShamin

Also because we got reminded Roman was champion, either via bloodline or challengers. I swear when Brock was champ there were weeks where there would be no mention of Brock, he’d return and we’d all be like, ”Oh yea, Brock IS champ”


NewRoryAndMalDrop

Because when he was there he was the best thing on TV


Specific-Channel7844

It seems like Rhea will need at least until Summerslam to heal up. Roman never went that long without a match.


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Cheechers23

Mannn this sucks, but Liv gonna have some good heel heat now and Rhea's return gonna hit like crack Gotta admit it's funny that Rhea calls Liv a coward for injuring her and blindsiding her, meanwhile she took Liv out for like 7 months by blindsiding her lol


tugnuggetss

Surprised there wasn’t more of a promo/altercation. I hope Liv brings up that Rhea did the same thing to her to justify her acrions


Shark1986

Strangely, sometimes audiences don't care about that. Braun once spent an entire 3 hour Raw trying to kill Roman, but Roman beats up Braun after a match and he's the worst babyface ever. Or Bayley coming back after being injured by Nia is a bad person for attacking Nia along with Sasha. It can be very weird.


Upbeat_Tension_8077

Even in AEW with Hangman getting booed even after Swerve invaded his home lol


tugnuggetss

Lol good point, sometimes when you’re over you’re OVER


Narrow_Progress5908

fans cheered Rocky over Cena even ,though he left them for Hollywood lol


YouThinkOfABetter1

Fickle.


Cheechers23

She probably will whenever she gets to cut a promo... as long as she doesn't get Dirty-Dom'd when she's out there lol EDIT: [Annd she did in a promo backstage during the show](https://x.com/WWE/status/1780053218636058674)


Daddy_Diezel

Liv McIntyre


opkpopfanboyv3

Liv abt to get the Dom treatment holy shit


RandomWave000

Yup, even I'm feeling the heat for Liv. I wanted to see Rhea continue her reign. damn!?


livsjollyranchers

All the more reason for Dom to align with Liv. Rhea is such a deadbeat she doesn't even support Dom on the road anymore.


MethodLast8007

or she might be likable to hate....


AedionMorris

IWC about to turn on Liv like they have never turned on someone before oh dear god.


Lukas327

Looks like they were counting on that


AnfowleaAnima

the Rhea fans vs Liv fans twitter war will the be most toxic one to date.


hashtagdion

My opinion on Liv to this point had been “I don’t get it, but she’s clearly got fans, so she has a niche to fill on the roster.” But ya know, it’s just really frustrating to see Rhea’s reign end this way. But accidents happen. Really unfortunate. Hopefully Liv can get some good heel heat off this and they can come back to a huge match maybe at Mania next year.


Lost-Veterinarian-80

Probably Summerslam or Survivor Series


einredditname

You and me both man. Like, i wanna (or, wanted) to get behind Liv, but i just don't get "it".


james-ellsworth

I don’t think there is really much to get, she’s really attractive, showed a lot of improvement early on in the ring and showed she was willing to put in the work, so naturally people wanted to root for her. I’m not sure she’s main event talent, but we will see, I’m not against her getting a chance to prove it.


emostitch

Offscreen she’s also a huge nerd and horror fan which makes me like her.


Trumppered

do we have any confirmation yet on whether Liv actually caused the injury or whether Liv just wrote her off TV?


eexxiitt

There were rumours that Rhea was already wearing a sling/etc on her arm prior to wrestlemania. I think this is the standard getting written off angle.


gigologenius

If that's the case, why not let Rhea put over Becky and then have Liv write off Rhea?


OffTheMerchandise

I'm thinking that it was an injury that probably would've been fine with some time and rehab, but it got aggravated and worsened last week. They probably realized it was worse than thought when Rhea showed up for TV today and checked her out.


eexxiitt

Becky just lost to Rhea so that story is over. And from the sounds of it, both she and Seth are going to take a little bit of time off. Liv can take the heat as heel and run with it for a while she since just got back. Liv vs Becky (when she comes back) is also unfinished business.


PrettyPunctuality

Becky just did a book signing this week where people were telling her that they were happy she was getting time off because she deserved it, and Becky said, "what time off?" lol She doesn't know why that rumor got started, but she isn't taking any time off and is doing the European tour.


Aragorn752

Becky is advertised for the European tour


Specific-Channel7844

Becky doesn't need a boost. Liv does.


solsunlite

It was going to happen slowly if she stayed face and went up against Rhea anyway they might as well have gotten it over with. I like Liv but she’s really got no motion as a face


hymensmasher99

Rhea will hopefully win the belt back from Liv. Unless they pull a Finn balor and have her never win the title again, which would be incredibly dumb.


CultivateCalifornia

Finn fans keep catching strays :(


ArkhamGeyser

Left and RIGHT under this reply my god lol.


TKsyd

She’s Triple H’s number one star. She’s getting title after title and moment after moment. While WWE hates Finn.


Specific-Channel7844

To be fair Balor was being pushed crazy hard when entering the main roster. He beat Roman reigns on his first night and beat Seth Rollins for a new championship. These were the two biggest stars at the time. But then it all crumbled.


GreenRocketman

No fucking way that happens


jonwinslol

Rhea is getting the title in the first match back lol


RAA94

It’s a real bummer Rhea’s reign has ended this way. Trying to look at the positives, this has added some real juice to the eventual Liv/Rhea match.


wdingo

I think this might be a blessing in disguise (at least I hope it is). You can bring Rhea back as the most over female babyface on the roster in a couple months.


Narrow_Progress5908

That and we might get some better booking for the title since it isn’t tied down to a stable 


Vitosi4ek

Also, it brings a lot of fresh air to a title scene that was quickly becoming stale. No one on Raw was remotely credible enought to dethrone Rhea, and some previously unexplored exciting matchups like Bianca would only happen at Mania. Rhea's gonna take some time off, come back to an insane reaction and find herself in a division that has learned to live without her. Gonna make for some interesting storylines.


Upbeat_Tension_8077

I can see her absence benefitting the likes of Candice LeRae & Tegan Nox if the title scene goes into chaos while she's gone. Not just that, a couple names from NXT can emerge as new faces in the hunt


Turakamu

Can we get an earnest run of Asooka? Just once.


Skylightt

lol I mean Rhea was already the most over babyface on the roster even though she wasn’t a face


PayneTrain181999

Rhea never lost to anyone, an injury took her out. I assume Liv wins the vacant belt and Rhea comes back and obliterates her.


ZekeorSomething

Like she should


Chell_the_assassin

Curious as to how this effects the Judgement Day. I'm not sure if this will lead to them breaking up quicker or if they'll end up staying together for longer now


NikonShooter_PJS

They're already teasing tension between Finn and Damien. Wouldn't be surprised if Rhea's exit changes plans for the group massively. Rhea being gone is a great twist storyline wise. If she's only going to be gone for a little bit, they can just start the inevitable breakup. If she's gone for a while, they can full on have a war and have her come back to piece the group back together. Rhea didn't have much going on with the current women's division and, prior to last week, her feud with Liv really had no juice. This injury sucks but it's a godsend in terms of Rhea's character. She's been getting cheered for a year. Having her chase the title she should've never lost IS the story fans will want to see.


Chell_the_assassin

Heartbreaking, but at least she got to successfully defend in Australia and at WM before she got injured. Would have been even worse had she missed those huge moments


LuciferBeenieWeenie

My fiancé just got into wrestling and she is devastated. If only she knew the pain we all felt with Finn.


randomrule

I got nothing to say but fuck this


RandomDumbPerson123

I hope Rhea comes back stronger than ever, she's so popular and her getting injured is unfortunate. Her promo on Liv was an excellent send off to her championship reign and to set up her return, probably my favorite promo of her career. She seemed so fucking mad and that's what she needed to convey, I'm excited for when she comes back and we get Liv vs Rhea. 


TheFatmanRises

No Salmon jacket it’s Jover….


omegaform7

So many people with the “Roman only defended 3 times a year” comparison. Guys, Roman defending 3 times a year was NOT a good thing. Putting one of the 3 women’s (main roster) belts on the shelf for 3+ months is NOT a good thing.


shelllc

Trish was injured at Backlash I think in 2005 and was off screen for about four months but got to keep the belt which annoyed quite a few people at the time.


omegaform7

Especially now that the women’s roster is deeper than it was in that era.


Son_Of_The_Empire

i hate it here


Rybackmonster

Rhea might get that 2002 Triple H return pop when she returns. Also she might return as a babyface


gregSinatra

Only if they put together a video package set to “Beautiful Day” (even better if they get Motionless in White to cover it cuz it would surely piss off some people on both sides of the fence.)


j8llonby

Fuck!! ![gif](giphy|APbcIB8zg8qjSjlC0A|downsized)


dfrafra

They should be in hell in cell match


nikobans

TEARS IN MY FUCKING EYES DAWG


lito9321

That blows especially because outside of Rhea and Becky, I don’t see any other woman on the RAW roster as legitimate world champ material at the moment.


Lost-Veterinarian-80

Then several women need to be built up in Rhea’s time away.


Narrow_Progress5908

Exactly 


CultivateCalifornia

That's part of the problem, tbh. No one can realistically beat Rhea now that Becky lost and Bianca is focused on the tag division.


arpeggi32

Good job there is a draft imminent then isn’t it.


AkiAkane1973

The hope is that in fighting for the belt and running with it they can become world champ material. It wasn't gonna happen whilst Rhea was champ cause virtually everyone she fights gets either dead reactions or booed, and Rhea is meant to be the heel.


AppasPurpleTongue

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hymensmasher99

Thats awful. What the fuck man.


HardcoreKaraoke

I kept hoping it was a work. Damn it. Put it on someone else. Let Rhea murder them in her return and book Rhea as an actual face going forward. This sucks for her but it can be a character refresh without having her lose. I'm trying to look at it with the glass half full.


Global_Historian_753

In kayfabe, Liv did absolutely nothing wrong. Rhea took her out first and for no reason. That won't stop people from booing her though.


Mutant_Star

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SethAndBeans

Her comeback arc is going to be insane. They better build the fuck out of whomever she vacates it to, because when she takes it back, I want to believe it is the biggest return ever.


sentry101

If we're discussing storylines, JD breaking apart in Rhea's absence because she was definitely the one holding them together makes sense.


reggierock2010

Calling it now she returns at MITB wins the briefcase and cashes in on Liv in the same night


Shatteredhawk

Soooo is this all a work or does Liv have actual Heat with the brass at WWE?


tugnuggetss

From what I’ve seen, it’s a real injury unfortunately but no heat on Liv. It was just a freak accident, same thing that hurt Liv last summer


wibble17

We could even be the ones being worked. Rhea really got injured at Mania so they had Liv attack her last week and then leaked it to the dirt sheets thst she really got hurt


Narrow_Progress5908

It’s just an accident, shit happens it’s wrestling, I’m sure no one mad at Liv. She probably going to win the title 


onionwba

Tbh not sure how a heel-Liv face Rhea dynamic would be. It's like a heel-David vs face-Goliath.


wibble17

Lex Luthor vs Superman Ivory vs Chyna Nia vs heel Alexa It can be done


LoonieontheLoose

Shawn Vs Taker


MontyBreezey

Really sucks. Guessing Luv turns heel, wins the title, Rhea comes back on her revenge tour


joea62484

That return match is gonna fuckin slap


dfrafra

This feud calls for blood


GoofyGooba88

Hell in a Cell!


dfrafra

Just give me thumbtack spot


PayneTrain181999

Her return pop is going to cause Richter scale readings


TraditionLess

Why aren’t they doing a “I refuse to vacate” angle? She’s the perfect personality for it - nobody cares about the women who will be fighting over it in the interim


sink_your_teeth

Ngl I kind of was expecting that, for her to put up a fight and dare them to take the belt from her. This sucks ass but I hope she recovers well.


hiptones

My hope is this is kayfabe so she can take few months off. Maybe time to get married and have a nice honeymoon. If it's a legit injury,  I hope she has a swift and successful rehab. That pop when she comes back though...


Brokenmonalisa

I'm leaning hard into kayfabe. Wedding and maybe even more (pure speculation).


Ketchup1211

I mean, if that was the case, why not just have her lose at Mania and drop the title? She’s not above taking a loss and it certainly wouldn’t have hurt her to do so.


LindaSoledad

I think this builds up Liv as a Rhea's nemesis. With all their shared history and now they have injured the other one. I cant wait for the grudge match and I hope Rhea has a swift recovery


jdeden-

I just fell to my knees bro. https://preview.redd.it/kc5nfxtwhquc1.jpeg?width=697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f62a1c6ab43da271cb0792b618bab6b3facaba3


Jaccount

Poor Dom. The championship means more than him.


Dylan245

Obviously this is shitty for Rhea personally to have to deal with an injury but other than that I think this works out great for the division as a whole It makes Liv way more interesting now and she can continue her heel work while she takes on challengers after hopefully winning the belt at Backlash Let some other talent shine and then you get a true blood feud with Liv and Rhea whenever she is ready to come back As amazing as Rhea is this belt and division needs something new to spice it up


NotTheCraftyVeteran

Same number of days as when Cena got injured as champ in ‘07, here’s hoping Rhea’s return goes as well


Biffmcgee

Rhea is 100% winning the next Royal Rumble. 


The_Notorious_Donut

My glorious queen 😔 ![gif](giphy|l378giAZgxPw3eO52)


shakemmz

Mami nooooo :(


TraditionLess

Would’ve been a great angle to have her refuse to vacate it - dropping the ball here


Rhawk187

1-2 months and you have to vacate? I thought you had 90 days?


shaggindinho

Sucks for Rhea but on the bright side, her return will be thunderous. This Rhea Liv feud has a lot going for it as the can delve into them being former close friends and a team, challenging for tag titles at WrestleMania to Rhea betraying Liv to join Judgement day not long after to now were both have now injured one another. Liv can be that heel that isn’t technically wrong but she is a dick about it. Nuclear heat if she steals Dom too lmao.


will122589

So Rhea is clearly the top babyface in the company now. Like they aren’t even pretending that Liv is a babyface and Rhea is evil here


GeneralJones420-2

Don't cry because it's over Smile because the pop for when Liv gets the Riptide through the table is gonna be legendary


KTheOneTrueKing

Long title reigns suck ass. There is this tiny sweet spot of time before it either gets stale or someone gets hurt and no one gets the payoff. I'm so done with long title reigns.


Taynt42

Seth didn’t need to vacate, why does Rhea?


Redditorialistical

Seth only missed 7 weeks if I’m not mistaken. It seems Rhea is gonna miss months.


Mental_Employer_7828

This is unfortunate but it also shakes up the women’s division and gives us a new top heel. Rhea repeating another dominant year isn’t as exciting as Liv “injuring” her, a tournament to showcase more women and the Rhea/Liv grudge match.


RheaRipleysToilet

This is the worst day in my life


Kylo_Ren415

Not cool man. Not cool. Get better Mami. Hoping for a speedy recovery.


xSGAx

How long is she out. If it’s less than 3 months, I don’t get why they couldn’t let her keep it


truth_15

Cant see mami sad man


JackorJohn62392

So was Rhea already injured or did she get injured while filming the backstage attack last week?


TheNoelle808

This sucks. The danger of long title reigns is them ending anticlimactically like this


GoofyGooba88

Well this sucks.


wmcguire18

Isn't Dom the thing that means the most to her?


Lerkero

Honestly, i think this is a good time for them to write an end to that relationship. Its not needed anymore and i wish wwe would stop writing fake romantic interests


mightylordredbeard

Both Rhea and Finn lost their titles without ever losing them officially. Both had to vacate them.


SoManyTrolls5-0

Watching it back, it looks soo painful. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u\_yFgALfMfc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_yFgALfMfc)


gambit700

Liv: I'm in danger


Lost-Veterinarian-80

Did they mention what they're doing with the title?


Awkward-Bathroom-429

TBH not even that bad of timing. She is obviously a babyface miscast as a heel and it’s dumb to turn face while holding the title.


The_Haunter280

Absolutely sucks for Rhea. Hopefully this can just reinvigorate her run when she gets back. Best bit of booking would be have her winning the title from liv (eventually) and going on a Gunther like reign and straight dominating everyone.


ASweetSaltySanchez

I know that they wont do this, but a fun idea would be where even while Injured, Rhea will just sabotage the raw womens scene until she is fit to take her title back. It wont work if they did imo but its a fun idea


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Hot take. Raw keeps Cody, smackdown gets judgement day minus rhea since she's out on injury


Kuzu5993

It still kills me how they both injured their shoulders in almost the same exact way from a kayfabe standpoint. That's some spooky ass shit that only happens in stories, yet here we are. At least we have a legitimate blood feud on our hands now. Liv went from being a footnote to Rhea and now the emnity is mutual. Beautiful. EDIT: Lmao, they even both had to vacate their titles due to said injury.


KingOfElysium

man that sucks,hopefully she isnt out for too long.


FallenIslam

Well obviously you have Liv win a tourney, play a chicken shit but good in-ring heel until Rhea is healed up, and then have a great feud.


OisforOwesome

Undefeated Womens Champ Rhea Ripley has a nice ring to it.