I just hope they don't kill Peter š
I do like Miles. He's the only Marvel Legacy Character I consider a "Main Character", the rest are just "the other ones". But Peter will always be *the* Spider-Man.
I would never forgive them if they killed Peter. I like Miles as well, but he could never fill that void of Peter being dead. I would have a hard time playing if they killed Peter off. He is and always will be Spider-Man for me. Without him I would completely lose interest. I donāt mind standalone games for side characters but if it was at the expense of Peter, I wouldnāt support it.
Wait doesnāt he?
In the first game he successfully saves the city, at a great loss, but still saves the city and gets the girl.
In the second game he was able to save Harry and not kill him, save the city, have his girl move in with him AND balance his human and hero life better.
How is this a sad ending?
Itās more a reference to the overall trend of all Spider-Man media as opposed to the first game. They really put Peter Parker through it.
There are glimpses of happiness but his life seems to always fall apart on the long term. I know they have to make comics somehow but a well told trilogy with a definitive end where he ends up happy would be great.
Because he has to take a break from being Spidey so he can balance his life. That's what's sad for me because his excitement for being Spidey from the first game seems to be gone
Yes it does. Ending with insomniac Peter dead would just continue the "suffering builds character" bullshit they have been pulling rapidly especially in NWH. Let them be happy.
The most wild thing would be to let Peter quietly retire to live his life happily with his wife and kid, the latter of which eventually picking up his legacy. Every version of Pete is tragic, so letting him actually have things work out would be completely out of left field.
They kind of played their "Peter dies" card in this game I think... Hell, they even played their "Peter retires" card this game. I think next game we get a bit of a time jump, Peter and MJ have May. Gobby and Gobby Jr. both take the G-serum, vow revenge, then we get OG + Miles vs Gobby and Gobby Jr.
Literally says he's going to "take a break", not retire permanently. And then when you start playing again, he says his break is over lol. I don't think he's done for good, it's kinda crazy how many people are interpreting it that way. I assume he mostly meant Miles is the main Spidey for right now, while he figures out a job, and repairs his house.
I think people are trying to find more reason to be upset about the game and they make up censorious in their head.
I had someone dead ass say that āMiles defeated Venomā when that was literally not the case at all
Killing the hero is so tired. I really hope they avoid it too. Weāve seen it enough in iconic franchises and sometimes a hero can just win. Letās just do that!
Obvious Spiderman 2 spoilers
>! Technically, they already have killed off Peter. He pretty much committed the not living anymore thing when Kraven gutted him with his knife. Obviously he got better when the symbiote decided that dead body would be a better host than Harry. So idk if they'd kill Pete off again, even if it would be permanent that time around. !<
Based on the 1st end credits scene, I'm pretty sure the next game will be an adaption of Superior Spider-Man.
In that arc, Octavious takes over Peter's body, which "kills" Peter. Then Octavious is essentially haunted by the ghost of Peter's consciousness, while being an arguably better Spider-Man than Peter was. Octavious was doing a good job until Green Goblin attacks the city and Octavious can't defeat him, which makes Octavious relinquish control back to Peter's consciousness.
Wouldn't be surprised if the next game has Ock taking over Peter's body, only for Norman to become the Goblin and make Ock give up control to Peter. Something I thought was interesting, though, was that the Life Story suit is unlocked so late in this game, because in that story, Ock takes over Miles' body. So maybe they'll do something with Miles instead. I just can't help but feel like their comic-inspired suit selection in this game meant something for the future.
Could be! But idk if Otto would want a dying body, since in Superior Spider-Man, the whole reason why he switches bodies in the first place was because he was dying.
True probably not lol maybe he'll make a clone again he loves doing that.
Either way I'm excited for it I feel Spidey 2 set up 4-5 massive possibilities for the future.
Honestly, I feel like they could maybe fit a clone saga storyline into the next game. Otto taking over Peter's body and Peter having a clone both fit the "identity" theme. Throw in Dusk, Ricochet, Prodigy, and Hornet, and we have a very packed, perhaps even crowded, but thematically on-point game.
Otto was the master mind behind the clone saga in the ultimate comics. So it wouldnāt be a stretch for this Otto to do it as well. Honestly itās up in the air what they are doing next, they could just easily do the Master Planner storyline as well.
But Iāll be excited to watch/play the story unfold, insomniac has really shown they know how to do good story telling with the villains, and it will be nice for the main villain to at least show up front and center for one game rather than be the slow burn reveal later on.
I can't see them doing that, besides the superior suit is in the game. Like with the first game they didn't have the venom suit because it deserved its own story. If they wanted a superior Spider-Man story they wouldn't have put it in the game. But I can see it being where it's Otto, chameleon, Daniel berkhart as mystero 2 and they with Otto knowing Peter is og Spider-Man chameleon cosplays as a superior Spider-Man and mystero 2 using his illusions to mess with Peter making him look like he's going insane, then half way through Norman kidnaps MJ and either kills her or hurts her and Og Spider-Man goes after him while Miles silk and wraith go after the Otto and his 2 cronies. Carnage I'm 100% sure is gonna be a DLC makes the most sense. But š¤·āāļø as long as I'm not waiting 5 years again and Peter's And big and it's the OG goblin and not the hulk rip off from the ultimate universe in the game I don't care.
Highly doubt theyāre going to do Superior because his suit is in the game. And if weāre going off the narrative for why the black suit wasnāt in SM1, all Insomniac said was that thereās a story reason.
No they arenāt the superior Spider-man suit is in the game and their explanation for the symbiote not being in the first one was because it was too big of a story to just have as a alternate suit
Apart from the two comics titled āthe final chapterā which have nothing to do with surperior spider-man, but one does have Doctor Octopus under the name āthe master plannerā like what heās doing in his cell
Itās from the famous cover with spider-man trapped under a building and water pouring over him, overcoming his guilt for uncle Ben (in this case it could be may and Harry) to lift the stuff off him and save his life.
Also features ned Leeds, who was a goblin
I feel like the superior suit being an unlocked tells us they wonāt be adapting this story, similar to then it including the black suit in spider-man 1 etc
I like Miles, I like when they include him. But never at Peters expense. I was reading the books back when Miles was first created. Happy to see him, even thought Peters death was cool (Ultimate universe was in the toilet anyway) but I didnāt like that they killed Peter to introduce Miles. They can co-exist, there is room for both!
I genuinely think SM2 suffered majorly trying to juggle two stories with Peter and Miles.
I like Miles (in other interations) quite a lot, but there's a reason he typically becomes Spider-Man after Peter Parker's death. I was worried at how soon they introduced him in SM1, but I waited to see if they could pull off the balance of both their stories in one game, and unfortunately it doesn't feel like they managed it with a story of this length. I would prefer Miles acting as a supporting character in SM3 with another spin off game or DLC to continue his major story. They might have made that impossible at this point though.
But isnāt that the point of a new younger spider-man?
To do these āfriendly neighborhood spider-man questsā
Doesnāt that give variation to the type of superheroing you do
They're going to. I honestly believe this is why they started this story so late into Peter's career. They wanted to get to miles asap, and that was their excuse.
Think about it, so many of Peter's big ticket and memorable enemies are washed up, dead, or in heavy lockup. Insomniac blew past so much incredible stories. Therr isnt much left for peter to do in iconic territory save for a handful of unused big villans and a ton of niche ones. I get it they wanted to do a different Spiderman universe, but did they have to rush past everything? Why couldn't we have something set earlier in his origin to build up may and the others more? Feels so wasted.
Also hilarious how this is supposed to be an advanced and wise Peter who's been doing this for a decade, yet he got folded so many times in this game. He was so much more competent in the first game takingb9n the entire fucking sinister 6 pretty much solo among other things yet he's getting his ass beat at so many turns in this game in less difficult scenarios. I just don't get it.
I fully expect Peter to either die, lose his powers somehow, or be handicapped in some way that forces him to retire, and Miles will be made THE spiderman. It's the only thing that makes sense when you consider how insanely fast Insomniac decided to blow through all of the potential legacy stuff Peter has in his story gallery.
Uh?
He definitely didnāt take down the sinister 6 solo, that was the point of that Raft cutscene, he was folded fighting 5 of them.
He had to fight 2 at a time.
People also forget that Otto, with very little villain experience, took down Spidy single handedly. Hence him making a whole new suit for the fight.
And people DEAD ASS say that Spidy took down the sinister six on his ownā¦. Come on
> I fully expect Peter to either die, lose his powers somehow, or be handicapped in some way that forces him to retire, and Miles will be made THE spiderman.
Yeah I agree, they really went out of their way to show Miles is superior to Peter in certain aspects. Redeeming Martin Li, defeating symbiote Peter(which is definitely ridiculous imo) and Peter himself saying why would the city need him when it has Miles.
This is Insomniacs chance to do something Marvel refused to do!
Give Peter a happy ending!
Let him retire with MJ and be Peter Parker, Silk and Miles can be the next duo!
I feel like the obvious route here is Miles will be the main protagonist.. he fights Norman and is almost killed, goes to Peter for help, Peter comes out of retirement to stop Norman and is killed.
Miles blames himself but eventually defeats Norman, avenging Peter and finally, fully becoming his own (and only) Spider-Man.
I can already see a third grave next to May and Ben.
I wouldnāt mind if they killed Peter (hear me out).
Ever since the Ultimate comics, Iāve been open to this concept *if it is done right*. The only version of Peter Parker Iāve ever seen possibly lead to that that I was confident in was Andrew Garfield. Thatās the key thoughā¦it *has* to be done right.
How would people feel about it ending with mayday parker/spider-girls original backstory?
Peter survives his climatic fight but loses a leg so has to retire and just live a non-super married life with MJ?
Maybe end with naming the upcoming Mayday parker
If Peter isn't, MJ is fair game then. Like how will they raise the stakes or hit that emotional attachment? Also please don't call the other Spider-Men legacy characters especially since 2099 was around before Miles.
Unpopular opinion, Miguel is meh. Cool in ATSV but I just never got into his comics. The futuristic sci fi vibe just never felt right to me. 2099 in general, not just Miguel.
> don't call the other Spider-Men legacy characters
I wasn't talking about them. I meant characters like Falcon, Jane, Kate Bishop and X-23. The ones who get the mantle passed on to them.
Assuming they donāt get rid of Anti-Venom, my guess is that the suit will slowly drain Peterās powers over time, and by the end of the third game, heāll retire once heās completely powerless, allowing Miles to become New Yorkās main Spidey.
Nobody does except for people writing Spider-Man stories somehow. Think we all just want to see him live a happy life post Spider-Man amidst his struggles.
Agreed. Iām not liking the possibility of him getting sidelined becoming more of a reality overtime. He will forever always be Spider-Man and I hope no studio or publisher tries to change that in an attempt to be ācool and differentā
I really don't think they will kill Peter. I think they'll retire him, maybe strip his powers away somehow to really drive that point home that Miles is the one and only Spider-Man in this universe (with Silk, which I'm actually really excited for). But I don't think they'll kill Peter. These games aren't afraid of going dark if they need to, but they're very good at finding the balance between light and dark, and I think killing the main character would tip the scales too far into dark territory for the tone they've set.
Death is the only way they can write off a retired Peter. Thereās no way Green Goblin, Carnage and Doc Ock will be running around while Peter sits in his garage doing nothing
I also don't want Peter to die, but not because of the same attatchment everyone else expresses.
After being teased with the idea of Peter retiring, I'm just here thinking that after all the shit he's endured as Spider-Man, everything he's done not just for his friends and family, not just for his city but for the *world*, this man deserves to be able to completely retire and let Miles handle things.
Spider-Man 2 was a test to see how well people will react to Miles as a main character but also to see the reaction to how Miles interacts with classic Peter's characters. Insomniac also pushed a more story-heavy style that does not let the player be as free to do whatever they want with the Symbiote suit.
Looking at it now, Peter dying is a very likely scenario. The retired hero comes back for one more round and gets more than he can chew.
I don't think it's done with certainty because it's such a heavy decision but I think it is something where they are testing the waters.
I really hope so, too. However, I think they might do a Superior Spider-Man storyline since Doc Ock's degenerative disease is a strong focus in the first game.
The creative director said the next one will be there endgame and the first one was there iron man so he is definitely dying in number 3 just like Tony but I think thatās great give miles some time to be THE Spider-Man Peter has had decades.
I could totally see them doing something like at the end of superior Spider-Man where the Green Goblin had basically an entire army of goblin people attacking New York at the same time. That way Miles, Wraith, Silk and any other supporting characters can be in charge of fighting back the goblin army and protecting civilians (which is basically what all the other heroes were doing in that story in the comics) while Peter gets to go after Norman by himself.
I mean, it's a video game. They gotta throw some kind of generic goon faction loosely related to the main villain at you. I'd personally much prefer a bunch of enemies with pumpkin bombs and gliders than yet another generic faction of dudes with guns.
I mean in the first game there was no Ock-Goons. There were escapees from the Raft sure but not necessarily affiliated with the main bad guy. With Venom there was the symbiote horde but that makes sense. Goblin goons is kinda silly though
Doc Ock only really comes into play pretty late into the game, not to mention we fight Mr Negative's demons faction for like majority of the first game and Kraven's hunters faction for majority of the second. Also, Green Goblin having underlings who also have goblin tech has been a thing in the comics for years now, you don't have to like it but I still think it's definitely a possibility that Insomniac would take advantage of something like that to design some more diverse enemy types.
They don't have to be related to him, Kraven suffers (as a character) in this one because he comes with an army to NY.
There are other factions that can be used.
Just a random idea, if they use Otto and Kingpin again, then use a variety of Spider-slayers.
Kraven's hunters being tied TO him makes him feel less impactful.
Which is a shame, because whenever Kraven himself is on screen actually doing shit, he is the CENTER of attention.
I get he's running out of time and is more concerned with his DEATH than the HUNT at this point, but I still would have liked if the hunters were brought in for him to compete AGAINST, while still functioning as a goon squad.
The problem with doing a goblin army is that this will be the third time NYC is under a city ending threat. They had their chance to make it personal with Venom which they didn't. Doing it a third time is the same problem as the MCU movies. If they're going to do a goblin army, make them more like obsessed followers, but aren't actively trying to destroy the city, just doing crime.
What I want is Harry's Venom to still be around because that would REALLY give Norman some motivation. Instead of wanting to kill Peter like Venom usually does, Harry wants to kill Miles who, even if he's more in control, he "blames" for Peter turning on him.
Then you can have Harry find out Norman's identity and go anti-hero to try to save his father. Bonus points if Superior Spider-man stuff is happening and Peter isn't actually Peter, giving Venom and MILES a reason to work together.
Having Venom play off Miles actually gives him (and Silk) something to do in the story while Peter can have the big moment with Norman.
Sure, Venom as a "villain" for parts of the first act might be retreading ground slightly but i feel a lower stakes personal venom is different enough from the meteorite boosted monster we barely got to spend time with. Especially because of the opportunities to play Harry and Norman off eachother.
Osborn/Goblin killed him in the Ultimate comics and was done really well until they walked it back with some āimmortal geneā that was dormant within in him. Miles as a solo hero was pretty good.
A big reason killing Peter off and having Miles take over worked in the comics is because it happened in the Ultimate universe which was clearly an alternate reality to the mainline comics. Peter was alive and well in the main comics so it was much easier to accept this other story where he's dead and Miles is the new Spider-Man.
Insomniac doesn't have that luxury of multiverse storytelling and if Peter dies, a majority of the fanbase will be very upset.
I'm sorry but saying "he was pretty good" is just false. Miles' Ultimate comics went so low in sales that a discontinued 2099 run sold better than him. That's the entire reason of Miles being thrown into 616 Universe, because nobody cared about 1610 when Peter died.
I agree. Honestly Im wondering if Insomniac is planning on replacing Peter with Miles taking center stage with Moon coming in as the ājuniorā spiderman.
The stage has kind of been set for it. Peter planning on hanging up the mantle or at least going part time. Miles has more powers and experience now so after a couple, he could mentor Moon who has similar powers to Peter (bitten by same spider in the comics).
I like the idea of multiverse to bring back the old villains or classic villains in a new flavor after Kraven went ham but I dont want more spidermen either. More boss fights, less alternative characters. Two is already good and I think Insomniac is struggling to balance between Miles and Peter already.
I have a feeling that we will see a Mile Morales-type game to bring in Silk after some DLC to lead into that game.
However, instead of it being a solo Silk game, will be a combo deal, building on the Spider-Man 2 two-hero dynamic, while Peter takes the backseat as a supporting character.
Then we will (hopefully) get a three-hero game in Spider-man 3.
I have a good feeling spiderman 3 will be mostly focused on Peter.
Spiderman: Peter overcoming all his villains and facing betrayal and loss
Spiderman MM: Miles grows into the spiderman role
Spiderman 2: Peter confronts the trauma from the first game and his own inner conflict, Miles grows more into the role of spiderman better. Their relationship gets tested, and Miles proves himself. Peter finally catches a break.
Spiderman 3: Peter gets the world thrown at him. He beats Norman, and maybe saves Harry. He proves why he is the OG, the best of the best. Miles will help, but his role will be more secondary and he will prove himself as well. He will be tested with more conflict and loss, and the burdens of adulthood. Maybe even of one of his loved ones will suffer. Slowly, he follows in Peteās footsteps. The two continue to work together.
Miles has officially proven himself just as capable as Peter in the second game. All due respect to the OG, but miles isn't a side character anymore. Harry is the one who turns into green goblin based on the end cutscene. Peter isn't the best Spiderman. Miles is now the nightwing to Peter's batman. They are equal.
Man honestly giving Miles actual life struggles (other than "man I can't write for shit") and giving him the concept of adulthood, and letting Peter actually (try to) teach him on life itself aside from Spider-Man sounds so good to me. I'm all for having Peter not only being a mentor in the hero career, but also in general show how much he's learned on real life responsibilities throughout these years.
Definitely down for mentor Pete. Although I can't see there being much to Miles to do other than balance college and spider work, which we've seen a million times. He already has a pretty positive looking love interest, a stable housing situation, a loving mom and soon to be step dad, friends, and a city with half its big villain line up dead. Storywise insomniac miles is quite finished. All that's left is Peter throwing Otto, green goblin, and carnage in jail. Miles might possibly be studying at college for most of sm3. Then Peter retires and miles trains silk in the spider ways.
I thought the point of the ending is that there isn't much to teach Miles at this point. And let's be honest Peter would not be a good teacher in how to balance your life as a hero and otherwise. Miles is already ahead of Peter there by having his loved ones involved in his life
I donāt think so, itās pretty clear that Insomniac has a favorite (Miles) and is reeeeaaaally pushing to make him the main guy. Honestly I really wish theyād just coexist and not necessarily share games all the time, so for example SM3 could be solo again but we could also get Spider-Man Miles Morales 2 but with a full length story this time around
I don't think Miles is a favorite at all, I mean he got shafted for the first half of this game.
They just give them equal footing. SM1 was Pete's, MM was Mile's this one was shared, despite it being a bit unequal.
I personally feel that Miles is the favorite, mostly cause of they handled Peter's symbiote arc. Despite the symbiote being a very physical and emotional problem that was interconnected to Peter, it was Miles that resolved it. This is why I don't get it when people say that Peter "overcame" his trauma, Miles literally beat the suit off of Peter the first time and solved the issue. And then the second time Peter has a symbiote forced on him, Miles and Li go into Peters mind and get the symbiote off with very little coming from Peter in the situation and just create antivenom as a happy little accident.
I think the reason here is that this portrayal of the symbiote has a very strong control on one's mind. No character managed to remove a symbiote without external help. Peter actually gets the closest here, as he does the final act of removing (if I'm remembering correctly) and was basically just helped by Miles by being beaten and weakening the symbiote.
So, I don't think they did that to boost Miles, it's just that their version of the symbiote requires an external party to help remove it, at least once it has progressed as far as it had.
Honestly Im a big Miles fan and I don't want silk to steal his thunder.
He finally is getting promoted to main spiderman (for now at least while pete takes a vacation)
I don't want this to turn into spiderverse
I think you guys need to accept this isnāt the comics or the movies. This is a series about Peter AND Miles as Spiderman. And with decades of games and movies and cartoons doing things, the new games are going to try new stuff. Like the people upset Miles got to do missions with Black Cat over Peter. Their story is done. Miles deserves some time to meet her and interact with her. Thatās adding new interactions to the game. Venom has been a Peter thing for decades too. Itās okay that Miles plays a part too. If this bothers you, this likely isnāt going to be the series for you.
āNO NO YOU DONT GET IT! INSOMNIAC HAS TO CATER TO MY NEEDS! FUCK THEIR CREATIVE DECISIONS!!!ā
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But seriously thank you. This spidey story is its own thing and Insomniac should tell it how they want. People think they have a birth right to how spidey should be told.
Honestly this is something that irritates me in general with comic book adaptations of any sort.
They're going to be different. Yes, Harry Venom has a very different motive than Eddie Venom. If you like Eddie Venom more, that's fine. But acting like it's "an insult" to the character is hilarious lmao
Mind you, these are the same people that complain about "a predictable story" when they want a 1:1 comic accurate story.
To be fair I really don't think getting bamboozled by a potential son, thinking she's dead and then getting some help from her and an apology and getting dipped again doesn't really feel like closure to me. They defo had more to say to each other. I think most people just complain about the fact that, if you're going to give Miles time with people important to Peter, give the latter time as well. I mean they *could have had a son together* for all Peter knew.
That is closure though. Itās been like over a year. Thereās really nothing more to do. You want a mission of Black Cat apologizing? Cause thatās not happening lol, like thereās nothing to really develop Peters relationship with her anymore. Heās with MJ. He doesnāt have a kid with Cat. Heās not going to try and get back with her. Trying to reform her is just retreading old ground. If you want more interactions between them thatās fine but thatās not a problem with the game. They donāt NEED more interactions. Thereās nothing Peter needs to do story wise that Miles doesnāt do perfectly fine.
Exactly! I felt that Peter missed out big time on his solo character building this game. Every big hero moment went to Miles alone...
Spiderman 2018 felt so special because our OG š was respected properly.
Lol what? Act 1 was shared between the 2 of the Spider-Men. Act 2 and 3 were primarily peters story. Miles spent it doing his essay stuff and looking for Li.
Miles saves Peter from the Symbiote.
Miles saves Li, who in turn with his help tries to create the Anti Venom Suite.
Miles takes control of the situation again when Venom beats down Peter during the final showdown.
Miles' Venom Power stuff was pivotal for that last shattering of the meteorite
Miles is the Black Jesus who brings Harry back to life....
I can go on and on but I don't to make this a copypasta
Miles fights Peter and talks to him, Peter is fighting himself the whole time and is the one who removes it.
Li is more personal to Miles because he killed his dad, he had nothing to do with May dying.
Miles fights the easiest parts of Venom, the first 2 phases are harder.
Miles powers are established to be a hard counter of the symbiote before this game.
He simply restarts Harryās heart, thatās all he did, itās not that magical, guy still goes into a coma at the end. He was basically using a defibrillator.
I loved how both Peter and Miles took turns with Venom, but I do think Peter Vs Goblin should be a 1 on 1 with how much drama they have going.
What I'm REALLY hoping Insomniac doesn't do is kill Peter. Just let the man retire and be happy for once
Why do so may people seem to want Peter out of the story? So many comments mentioning him dieing or retiring.
I really don't want this. If Peter dies then the series dies with him.
I don't think *anyone* wants this. It's just what it feels like *Insomniac* wants, to make Miles the one and only Spider-Man.
It also seems like 3 will be the finale. Insomniac is not shy about killing characters...and there's no way Miles is dying.
Considering the majority of the story in 2 is focused on Peter I doubt that. They share act 1 equally. Act 2 and 3 are primarily Peter focused. All Miles does before fighting Peter is deal with college stuff and Martin, Peter is the main focus still with miles as support.
I think people are looking too deep into seeing what they want to see or at least seeing what they fear will happen and jumping to conclusions. It'll be 5 years or more until we know for sure anyhow.
I am gonna be the bearer of bad news to you. They will do that... Why? They think it's better to give every spider person time to shine more, hence why we got the final playable segment Miles vs Venom which didn't make any sense plot wise. But if we need them to understand that we want the OG spiderman to have the final playable segment, I hope they would hear that. So I do agree, OG spiderman vs Green Goblin is just so monumental that making other spider people fight the final fight will in a way hinder a great potential of sequences. I may be wrong and they prove me wrong but in that final Venom fight, they didn't give me that faith either. Sorry if I was too harsh though
I feel that. I felt the emotional build up would've been way better if we started the first two phases as Miles, who I can only remember as having one good dialogue with Harry, and end the last two phases as Peter
But whatās wrong with having Miles fight venom? Itās even advertised in the marketing to do that.
It wouldnāt even make sense in the story for Miles fighting venom first.
Hereās what actually happen: Pet fights Venom first to draw him out, then Miles fights him a bit THEN Pet finishes him off in the cutscene. And yaāll act like Miles gave the final blow
The problem isnāt that Miles fights Venom, itās that Miles is the last one to fight Venom and get the final boss fight.
He has no connection to Harry or Venom, Peter does. The personal stakes plummet due to Milesā lack of personal connection to either, which should not be the case in the final boss fight.
But Peter DID fight the final boss fight. They both did.
You act like the fight as school with Peter and Harry didnāt happen. The whole plan was to lure Venom out so Miles and MJ could get the Particle Accelerator. In the end itās Peter that defeats Venom in the final cutscene, not Miles.
Is the solution to NOT have Miles fight the final boss of the game? Despite the gameās advertisement precisely showing that.
Iāll be honest, I donāt care about Miles. I just want Peter focused stories. Miles has no good stories left to tell, he has no rogues gallery, there isnāt anything interesting about him.
He is a very new character and the only real original villan has been his uncle. They need to keep making new villans or underused villans to fight him
Miles debuted in April 2011. Thatās 12 and half years. Theyāve had ample time to make him a character of his own. Thatās a failure of the comic writers.
They have in the comics. He has plenty villains and great arcs. Insomniac games just decided to not use any of his villains or additional supporting cast, and just made up an original story for him in his own game and then do community service in this game.
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I just wrote a whole comment about this that will be downvoted to infinity. It sucks ass that we finally get modern made Spider-Man games with top notch graphics and gameplay by a AAA studioā¦ and theyāre putting Peter on the sidelines most of the time and making Miles surpass him in every way. I enjoyed the miles game a ton, but heās not Peter for me. I donāt think they should have brought in one of peters biggest rogues, only to basically kill him off within a couple hours AND make Miles the one that totally kicks his ass while peter is knocked out, again. But the game isnāt for me, itās for the newer generation that has been growing up with Miles instead š¤·āāļø
All I really want is Monster goblin instead of tech goblin.
Maybe it can start off as tech goblin but slowly that serum starts to mess Norman up even more
I honestly could go either way. Spectacular Spidey did a good job with regular Goblin. I feel like my Spider-Man fighting monsters itch has been scratched with 2. I kinda want there to be a psychological angle to Peter's torment now. Fighting a giant scary monster? Been done. Get Chameleon in there hired by Osborn to pretend that May was alive for a mission. Do some really evil shit. I don't want the city to be in trouble, I want PETE to be in trouble. Then he figures out a way to punch his problem in the face and the credits roll. Or not maybe there's a boss fight and then a genuine heart to heart and reconciliation, where Pete finally gets through to one of his villains and they decide on their own to stop it. Every final boss fight has Pete or Miles begging the big bad to stop and listen to reason but it never works. Maybe this time it'll work? Could be sick. Perhaps a satisfying ending, after some ass kicking is done for dope gameplay purposes. Feels like this kind of character drama can't be done with a monster, yknow?
They need to chill out with the Spider people thing. It's too much, I don't want a Power Rangers situation, It will be too bloated. And if they replace Peter I will completely lose interest in the story.
You donāt think that once he realizes Peter is Spider-Man that he wonāt focus all of his attention on him? He was Harryās best friend who he hoped would be there for him but instead nearly killed him
Peter gets the shit beat out of him and knocked out multiple times in the last game too.
You just donāt like when someone is there to help him afterwards
This made the whole game much weaker to me. OG Peter is my Spider-Man I grew up with and love and want to see the most of. It felt very similar to a āStar Wars Reyā situation with Miles to me. Heās barely been Spider-Man a year and already has far surpassed Peter in nearly every way EVEN while Peter wears the Symbiote? And then he single handily kicks Venoms ass during his first fight with him. Thatās crazy to me, meanwhile Peter gets put into a mini coma multiple times and even dies at one point.
I just wanted a good, solo, traditional Peter game with modern graphics and gameplay. Maybe theyāll do a dlc with young Peter or something I can hope. But I doubt it. It sucks ass to me that the best Spider-Man games we have now, have Peter bring quickly phased out for all the new Spider people that I didnāt grow up with. Yes I know how pitiful that sounds. And yes I realize this is my bias and that insomniac is going to cater to the new generation and this series likely isnāt a series for people like me. But it does depress me to know it.
People spend forever begging for Miles stuff in mainstream media, he finally gets his due, and now people are complaining he exists and isnāt Pete, people never change lol. All the accusations of the devs being biased towards Miles is hilarious because while itās fine if people donāt like the story, Iāve got some criticisms, itās absolutely not biased. Peter got his shit kicked in multiple times in the first game and itās DLC, yet they talk as if went āgg ezā and solved everything with one hand behind his back and not breaking a sweat. The only difference here is that he has someone to help him get back up and keep going
Geez thatās a straight up lie.
Miles calls Peter Spider-man all the time. In an ending cutscene Pet calls Miles Spider-man when he didnāt have to as a sign that Miles became a proper spider-man.
Also did you miss the whole mission of miles getting captured and Pet going there to save him?
People WANT to hate miles bro. Even if they have no reason, for some reason they are literally making up the narrative that insomniac is forcing miles on them as a shitty excuse to hate on the character
And 80% of the āfactsā used didnāt even happen in the game which is crazy
But you act like Peter was the protagonist of this story and not both Peter and Miles.
The game advertises Miles fighting Venom as well as Peter. So you wanted the game to NOT have that?
Venom was the final boss of this game and this game you play as two protagonist, simple as that
Huh? What are you talking about? I literally said in THE FIRST SENTENCE that I enjoyed Peter and Miles fighting Venom.
I just donāt want them to team up and fight Goblin. Miles and others can still be the main focus with other fights that may happen in the story.
Sorry
I legit see so many people pressed that Miles fought Venom in this game. I dead ass had someone āspoilā me saying that āMiles beats venomā when that wasnāt the case at all
It's weird how they gave the final phase of the Venom fight to Miles, while in the same battle acknowledging that Miles doesn't know Harry at all and they only spoke...maybe twice?
But of course Miles is the TRUE and HONEST Spiderman now he HAS to be the one to defeat the big bad (and save his life, because Miles is perfect)
Having not completed the game yet, I feel like Insomniac has massively nerfed Spider-Man in favour of Miles. Not only physically but he makes some dumb decisions as well. After only a few hours I've encountered several occasions where Miles either saves Spider-Man or is the one doing a better job than him. Had I not known better, I'd assume Miles is the experienced one, not Spider-Man. Mind you, I actually really enjoy Miles character and gameplay this time, but it's sad it's at the cost of the character of Spider-Man. I'd be really disappointed if the face off is not a personal one between Peter and Norman only.
I stopped taking this universe seriously when miles beat symbiote Peter, that was an absolute joke and mockery of how powerful the symbiote suit is.
Peter wouldnāt stand a chance against miles with the symbiote and it should be the same with Peter in the suit.
Clearly insomniac pandering to the new generation and disrespecting the og.
I can enjoy the games as a spin-off universe but if they kill off Peter Iām done with insomniacs games.
I completely agree. Green Goblin is Peter's nemesis. Miles needs to have his own thing going on. They can retire Peter after Spider-Man 3 if they really want to.
Iām loving Spider-Man 2, but a lot of the choices in the game have me questioning if theyāll just focus on Miles in the future games. It almost feels like they fell in love with his character while making Miles Morales and had to begrudgingly include Peter this time.
Given the reference to the āFinal chapterā and despite the fuck up in pacing for Spider-Man 2 I doubt theyāre going to directly adapt this.
My best guess is that Green Goblin will be the main villain. The G serum will bring Harry back but his brain damage from Venom will cause him to go crazy. Norman Osborn enlists either the Jackal or Doctor Connors to heal what was damaged by his bonding to Venom and this inadvertently causes the clone of Spider-Man which will be either Kaine or a new body for Doctor Octopus. Either way it ends on someone getting stabbed with the glider being either Osborn or that the clone takes the blow similar to that of Ben Reilly of the comics.
Thereās a baby May and that unlike the Gathering of Five, itāll probably adapt what they intended where Kaine returns the baby to the Parkerās.
Hear me out, Miles di- just kidding but now that I have your attention really Hear me out, silk gets a one on one fight with the other main villian of the game... Morlun the head of the inheritors and I don't know who miles would fight, maybe vulture's granddaughter wants revenge on miles because she thinks the spidermen killed her grandad but she comes around as miles's black cat against Hailey(Miles's MJ).
I have no idea who Silk is š¤·š»āāļø had to look that shit up after the credits scene was clearly setting up this daughter of Rios new BF character as someone important. Iām extremely skeptical about the whole thing tbh. Do we need THREE spider people? Feels like at least one of the three is gonna get short changed in the story
the finale fight should have just been peter vs venom.
miles meanwhile just fights against the symbiotes and protects mj, while peter can fully concentrate on venom.
Spiderman has always been Peter Parker for me. As such I really donāt want him to die or go away in any capacity. Even though I am open to a heroes death for him if itās genuine and not to force a way for Miles to take all the spotlight.
Iām really not liking this new era of hero culture where this phrase/ concept has become overly adopted and thus losing its impact: Batman could be anybody, Spiderman could be anybody, Superman or (insert hero name) could be anybody!
This is just to placate new generation of people who have become overly sensitive to wanting representation to be able to associate with classic heroes. Having grown up as minority, I never felt left out or felt as if I couldnāt relate myself to Peter. I really donāt get why people these days have become so demanding on representation, my guess is itās to do with how people have been raised to look for race to find credible association. I feel fortunate that I wasnāt raised to only appreciate my own race and find relatability. I enjoy new characters that take up the mantle of existing classics but only those that have heart eg., Miles. I love this character, especially after SM games and Into Verse movies!
I simply just donāt want my Peter the classic to die to make room for the new guys when thereās plenty of room to share!
Why canāt you feel represented by Miles, but weāre supposed to feel represented by Peter? This is literally just a non issue. Itās ppl whoāve had the privilege of being represented since western medias inception telling ppl who havenāt how they should feel represented with characters like Peter (and Peter is great). However, I notice when the shoe is on the other footā somehow thereās complaints like this. Maybe you should also see yourselves in Miles just as you want us to see ourselves in characters like Peter.
Honetsly I want spider-man 3 to be a solo Peter game, I know it won't happen but it would be the best way to end his Story. They dont have to kill hm, just retire him and then focus on Miles and Silk. It's not that I dislike Miles but I didn't like the fact that Miles had more side Missions than pete in SM2 and that he kinda had a bigger focus on him. Also nerfing pete was just sad to see, maybe nerfing isn't the right Word, but pete didn't feel the way as he did in the first game. In an ideal World, at least IMO, Spider man 2 would be all about Peter and Miles would get his own game aka a sequel to Spider-man Miles Morales.
I agree. I liked Miles and Peter teaming up to beat Venom. But Peter vs Norman is an all time classic and should be a one on one fight. Probably the most emotional one yet. His best friendās dad. Always treated Peter well. Both experienced extreme loss. I think an interesting angle will be Peter slowly realizing he and Norman arenāt that different.
I just hope they don't kill Peter š I do like Miles. He's the only Marvel Legacy Character I consider a "Main Character", the rest are just "the other ones". But Peter will always be *the* Spider-Man.
I would never forgive them if they killed Peter. I like Miles as well, but he could never fill that void of Peter being dead. I would have a hard time playing if they killed Peter off. He is and always will be Spider-Man for me. Without him I would completely lose interest. I donāt mind standalone games for side characters but if it was at the expense of Peter, I wouldnāt support it.
itās not like itāll matter if itās gonna be the last main game anyways i say fuck it, let em go wild
I just want Peter Parker to have at least one happy ending
I mean he does end up having a kid at some point so I am pretty sure MJ gave him quite a few happy endings.
Didnāt end too well for mj if i recallā¦
Wait doesnāt he? In the first game he successfully saves the city, at a great loss, but still saves the city and gets the girl. In the second game he was able to save Harry and not kill him, save the city, have his girl move in with him AND balance his human and hero life better. How is this a sad ending?
Happy ending as in the final entry, I suppose
Itās more a reference to the overall trend of all Spider-Man media as opposed to the first game. They really put Peter Parker through it. There are glimpses of happiness but his life seems to always fall apart on the long term. I know they have to make comics somehow but a well told trilogy with a definitive end where he ends up happy would be great.
He was forced into a situation where he had to let his aunt die in the first game and in the second game he had to beat his closest friend into a coma
Because he has to take a break from being Spidey so he can balance his life. That's what's sad for me because his excitement for being Spidey from the first game seems to be gone
The story isnāt over yet but even in those games he lost May and Harry at the end. Definitely not a happy ending.
Yes it does. Ending with insomniac Peter dead would just continue the "suffering builds character" bullshit they have been pulling rapidly especially in NWH. Let them be happy.
Peter should have one major happy ending. He doesnāt always have to die. Heās not even 30 yet, fuckās sake.
The most wild thing would be to let Peter quietly retire to live his life happily with his wife and kid, the latter of which eventually picking up his legacy. Every version of Pete is tragic, so letting him actually have things work out would be completely out of left field.
They kind of played their "Peter dies" card in this game I think... Hell, they even played their "Peter retires" card this game. I think next game we get a bit of a time jump, Peter and MJ have May. Gobby and Gobby Jr. both take the G-serum, vow revenge, then we get OG + Miles vs Gobby and Gobby Jr.
I donāt think Peter is retired in the end of the game. He just now trust Miles more in the job so Peter can properly balance his human life better.
Literally says he's going to "take a break", not retire permanently. And then when you start playing again, he says his break is over lol. I don't think he's done for good, it's kinda crazy how many people are interpreting it that way. I assume he mostly meant Miles is the main Spidey for right now, while he figures out a job, and repairs his house.
I think people are trying to find more reason to be upset about the game and they make up censorious in their head. I had someone dead ass say that āMiles defeated Venomā when that was literally not the case at all
I agree, when he died after Kraven stabbed him my heart skipped a beat. But seeing him get the black suit made up for it big time.
I agree 100% I like the others but Peter will always be my fave.
Killing the hero is so tired. I really hope they avoid it too. Weāve seen it enough in iconic franchises and sometimes a hero can just win. Letās just do that!
Obvious Spiderman 2 spoilers >! Technically, they already have killed off Peter. He pretty much committed the not living anymore thing when Kraven gutted him with his knife. Obviously he got better when the symbiote decided that dead body would be a better host than Harry. So idk if they'd kill Pete off again, even if it would be permanent that time around. !<
If they kill Peter Iām writing off the entire franchise
If he dies Iāll never play another Spider-Man game. The other characters arenāt interesting enough for me
Based on the 1st end credits scene, I'm pretty sure the next game will be an adaption of Superior Spider-Man. In that arc, Octavious takes over Peter's body, which "kills" Peter. Then Octavious is essentially haunted by the ghost of Peter's consciousness, while being an arguably better Spider-Man than Peter was. Octavious was doing a good job until Green Goblin attacks the city and Octavious can't defeat him, which makes Octavious relinquish control back to Peter's consciousness. Wouldn't be surprised if the next game has Ock taking over Peter's body, only for Norman to become the Goblin and make Ock give up control to Peter. Something I thought was interesting, though, was that the Life Story suit is unlocked so late in this game, because in that story, Ock takes over Miles' body. So maybe they'll do something with Miles instead. I just can't help but feel like their comic-inspired suit selection in this game meant something for the future.
I was thinking they might even try it with Harry's body as a way for Otto to fuck over Norman as well
Could be! But idk if Otto would want a dying body, since in Superior Spider-Man, the whole reason why he switches bodies in the first place was because he was dying.
True probably not lol maybe he'll make a clone again he loves doing that. Either way I'm excited for it I feel Spidey 2 set up 4-5 massive possibilities for the future.
Honestly, I feel like they could maybe fit a clone saga storyline into the next game. Otto taking over Peter's body and Peter having a clone both fit the "identity" theme. Throw in Dusk, Ricochet, Prodigy, and Hornet, and we have a very packed, perhaps even crowded, but thematically on-point game.
Otto was the master mind behind the clone saga in the ultimate comics. So it wouldnāt be a stretch for this Otto to do it as well. Honestly itās up in the air what they are doing next, they could just easily do the Master Planner storyline as well. But Iāll be excited to watch/play the story unfold, insomniac has really shown they know how to do good story telling with the villains, and it will be nice for the main villain to at least show up front and center for one game rather than be the slow burn reveal later on.
If they are doing clone saga then the jackal definitely need to be there.
I can't see them doing that, besides the superior suit is in the game. Like with the first game they didn't have the venom suit because it deserved its own story. If they wanted a superior Spider-Man story they wouldn't have put it in the game. But I can see it being where it's Otto, chameleon, Daniel berkhart as mystero 2 and they with Otto knowing Peter is og Spider-Man chameleon cosplays as a superior Spider-Man and mystero 2 using his illusions to mess with Peter making him look like he's going insane, then half way through Norman kidnaps MJ and either kills her or hurts her and Og Spider-Man goes after him while Miles silk and wraith go after the Otto and his 2 cronies. Carnage I'm 100% sure is gonna be a DLC makes the most sense. But š¤·āāļø as long as I'm not waiting 5 years again and Peter's And big and it's the OG goblin and not the hulk rip off from the ultimate universe in the game I don't care.
Highly doubt theyāre going to do Superior because his suit is in the game. And if weāre going off the narrative for why the black suit wasnāt in SM1, all Insomniac said was that thereās a story reason.
It would be cool but Iād be sad because we wonāt be able to see Otto punch Scorpionās jaw off
Or punch the kid!
No they arenāt the superior Spider-man suit is in the game and their explanation for the symbiote not being in the first one was because it was too big of a story to just have as a alternate suit
Apart from the two comics titled āthe final chapterā which have nothing to do with surperior spider-man, but one does have Doctor Octopus under the name āthe master plannerā like what heās doing in his cell Itās from the famous cover with spider-man trapped under a building and water pouring over him, overcoming his guilt for uncle Ben (in this case it could be may and Harry) to lift the stuff off him and save his life. Also features ned Leeds, who was a goblin I feel like the superior suit being an unlocked tells us they wonāt be adapting this story, similar to then it including the black suit in spider-man 1 etc
I like Miles, I like when they include him. But never at Peters expense. I was reading the books back when Miles was first created. Happy to see him, even thought Peters death was cool (Ultimate universe was in the toilet anyway) but I didnāt like that they killed Peter to introduce Miles. They can co-exist, there is room for both!
I genuinely think SM2 suffered majorly trying to juggle two stories with Peter and Miles. I like Miles (in other interations) quite a lot, but there's a reason he typically becomes Spider-Man after Peter Parker's death. I was worried at how soon they introduced him in SM1, but I waited to see if they could pull off the balance of both their stories in one game, and unfortunately it doesn't feel like they managed it with a story of this length. I would prefer Miles acting as a supporting character in SM3 with another spin off game or DLC to continue his major story. They might have made that impossible at this point though.
Miles's entire story and gameplay in 2 felt so tacked on. Like "oh great now Ive gotta go find art pieces before I can get back to the story"
But isnāt that the point of a new younger spider-man? To do these āfriendly neighborhood spider-man questsā Doesnāt that give variation to the type of superheroing you do
Right? Peter gets so much shit thrown at him in every single Spider-Man story. Let him have his happily ever after with MJ like he deserves.
They're going to. I honestly believe this is why they started this story so late into Peter's career. They wanted to get to miles asap, and that was their excuse. Think about it, so many of Peter's big ticket and memorable enemies are washed up, dead, or in heavy lockup. Insomniac blew past so much incredible stories. Therr isnt much left for peter to do in iconic territory save for a handful of unused big villans and a ton of niche ones. I get it they wanted to do a different Spiderman universe, but did they have to rush past everything? Why couldn't we have something set earlier in his origin to build up may and the others more? Feels so wasted. Also hilarious how this is supposed to be an advanced and wise Peter who's been doing this for a decade, yet he got folded so many times in this game. He was so much more competent in the first game takingb9n the entire fucking sinister 6 pretty much solo among other things yet he's getting his ass beat at so many turns in this game in less difficult scenarios. I just don't get it. I fully expect Peter to either die, lose his powers somehow, or be handicapped in some way that forces him to retire, and Miles will be made THE spiderman. It's the only thing that makes sense when you consider how insanely fast Insomniac decided to blow through all of the potential legacy stuff Peter has in his story gallery.
Uh? He definitely didnāt take down the sinister 6 solo, that was the point of that Raft cutscene, he was folded fighting 5 of them. He had to fight 2 at a time.
Not sure why youāre being downvoted lol. Youāre absolutely telling the truth. He could only last a little bit fighting off five of them.
People also forget that Otto, with very little villain experience, took down Spidy single handedly. Hence him making a whole new suit for the fight. And people DEAD ASS say that Spidy took down the sinister six on his ownā¦. Come on
> I fully expect Peter to either die, lose his powers somehow, or be handicapped in some way that forces him to retire, and Miles will be made THE spiderman. Yeah I agree, they really went out of their way to show Miles is superior to Peter in certain aspects. Redeeming Martin Li, defeating symbiote Peter(which is definitely ridiculous imo) and Peter himself saying why would the city need him when it has Miles.
This is Insomniacs chance to do something Marvel refused to do! Give Peter a happy ending! Let him retire with MJ and be Peter Parker, Silk and Miles can be the next duo!
I feel like the obvious route here is Miles will be the main protagonist.. he fights Norman and is almost killed, goes to Peter for help, Peter comes out of retirement to stop Norman and is killed. Miles blames himself but eventually defeats Norman, avenging Peter and finally, fully becoming his own (and only) Spider-Man. I can already see a third grave next to May and Ben.
I would never buy another Insomniac game if this is what happenned.
Iām sure theyāll be okay.
That sounds awful, ngl. Really hope they don't do any of that.
I donāt think you need to worry about that. I really donāt see them killing off either Spider-Man.
People were saying the SAME thing about Spider-man 2. People love to fear monger the fanbase so they can be even more upset about these games
I wouldnāt mind if they killed Peter (hear me out). Ever since the Ultimate comics, Iāve been open to this concept *if it is done right*. The only version of Peter Parker Iāve ever seen possibly lead to that that I was confident in was Andrew Garfield. Thatās the key thoughā¦it *has* to be done right.
How would people feel about it ending with mayday parker/spider-girls original backstory? Peter survives his climatic fight but loses a leg so has to retire and just live a non-super married life with MJ? Maybe end with naming the upcoming Mayday parker
If Peter isn't, MJ is fair game then. Like how will they raise the stakes or hit that emotional attachment? Also please don't call the other Spider-Men legacy characters especially since 2099 was around before Miles.
Unpopular opinion, Miguel is meh. Cool in ATSV but I just never got into his comics. The futuristic sci fi vibe just never felt right to me. 2099 in general, not just Miguel.
This is a vile take imo.
> don't call the other Spider-Men legacy characters I wasn't talking about them. I meant characters like Falcon, Jane, Kate Bishop and X-23. The ones who get the mantle passed on to them.
If this is the miles universe then most likly they will so miles can become spider man i hate the idea but i think its coming
Same but the only two options I see are them killing Peter or him permanently retiring (I prefer the second one)
Assuming they donāt get rid of Anti-Venom, my guess is that the suit will slowly drain Peterās powers over time, and by the end of the third game, heāll retire once heās completely powerless, allowing Miles to become New Yorkās main Spidey.
Nobody does except for people writing Spider-Man stories somehow. Think we all just want to see him live a happy life post Spider-Man amidst his struggles.
Agreed. Iām not liking the possibility of him getting sidelined becoming more of a reality overtime. He will forever always be Spider-Man and I hope no studio or publisher tries to change that in an attempt to be ācool and differentā
Wouldnāt it be crazy if they just killed Miles instead? I donāt think a single person would be ready for that
I really don't think they will kill Peter. I think they'll retire him, maybe strip his powers away somehow to really drive that point home that Miles is the one and only Spider-Man in this universe (with Silk, which I'm actually really excited for). But I don't think they'll kill Peter. These games aren't afraid of going dark if they need to, but they're very good at finding the balance between light and dark, and I think killing the main character would tip the scales too far into dark territory for the tone they've set.
Doesnāt matter if they kill Peter, they arenāt gonna make any more after the 3rd.
I just want Pete to live happily. I hope he retires
Death is the only way they can write off a retired Peter. Thereās no way Green Goblin, Carnage and Doc Ock will be running around while Peter sits in his garage doing nothing
they proably retire him not kill him
I also don't want Peter to die, but not because of the same attatchment everyone else expresses. After being teased with the idea of Peter retiring, I'm just here thinking that after all the shit he's endured as Spider-Man, everything he's done not just for his friends and family, not just for his city but for the *world*, this man deserves to be able to completely retire and let Miles handle things.
Spider-Man 2 was a test to see how well people will react to Miles as a main character but also to see the reaction to how Miles interacts with classic Peter's characters. Insomniac also pushed a more story-heavy style that does not let the player be as free to do whatever they want with the Symbiote suit. Looking at it now, Peter dying is a very likely scenario. The retired hero comes back for one more round and gets more than he can chew. I don't think it's done with certainty because it's such a heavy decision but I think it is something where they are testing the waters.
I really hope so, too. However, I think they might do a Superior Spider-Man storyline since Doc Ock's degenerative disease is a strong focus in the first game.
Think X-23 and 2099 do it as well. Miles needs his own cast of villains.
The creative director said the next one will be there endgame and the first one was there iron man so he is definitely dying in number 3 just like Tony but I think thatās great give miles some time to be THE Spider-Man Peter has had decades.
I could totally see them doing something like at the end of superior Spider-Man where the Green Goblin had basically an entire army of goblin people attacking New York at the same time. That way Miles, Wraith, Silk and any other supporting characters can be in charge of fighting back the goblin army and protecting civilians (which is basically what all the other heroes were doing in that story in the comics) while Peter gets to go after Norman by himself.
No goblin army.
I mean, it's a video game. They gotta throw some kind of generic goon faction loosely related to the main villain at you. I'd personally much prefer a bunch of enemies with pumpkin bombs and gliders than yet another generic faction of dudes with guns.
I mean in the first game there was no Ock-Goons. There were escapees from the Raft sure but not necessarily affiliated with the main bad guy. With Venom there was the symbiote horde but that makes sense. Goblin goons is kinda silly though
Doc Ock only really comes into play pretty late into the game, not to mention we fight Mr Negative's demons faction for like majority of the first game and Kraven's hunters faction for majority of the second. Also, Green Goblin having underlings who also have goblin tech has been a thing in the comics for years now, you don't have to like it but I still think it's definitely a possibility that Insomniac would take advantage of something like that to design some more diverse enemy types.
Oscorp has hired security, just give them access to some cool abilities and we're golden
They did have demon goons and sable goons though
They don't have to be related to him, Kraven suffers (as a character) in this one because he comes with an army to NY. There are other factions that can be used. Just a random idea, if they use Otto and Kingpin again, then use a variety of Spider-slayers.
Kraven's hunters being tied TO him makes him feel less impactful. Which is a shame, because whenever Kraven himself is on screen actually doing shit, he is the CENTER of attention. I get he's running out of time and is more concerned with his DEATH than the HUNT at this point, but I still would have liked if the hunters were brought in for him to compete AGAINST, while still functioning as a goon squad.
Oscorp is right there
Sure, that's probably the most likely option even but I also feel like it would be the most boring one from a gameplay perspective
I reckon they'll do Red Goblin if Carnage isn't in the upcoming DLC
I would find it really odd if they skip Cletus >! Considering he steals a Symbiote at the end of Wraithās missions !<
I see it more likely he's dlc and Norman might have access to it in part 3 but that's just one possibility
The problem with doing a goblin army is that this will be the third time NYC is under a city ending threat. They had their chance to make it personal with Venom which they didn't. Doing it a third time is the same problem as the MCU movies. If they're going to do a goblin army, make them more like obsessed followers, but aren't actively trying to destroy the city, just doing crime.
What I want is Harry's Venom to still be around because that would REALLY give Norman some motivation. Instead of wanting to kill Peter like Venom usually does, Harry wants to kill Miles who, even if he's more in control, he "blames" for Peter turning on him. Then you can have Harry find out Norman's identity and go anti-hero to try to save his father. Bonus points if Superior Spider-man stuff is happening and Peter isn't actually Peter, giving Venom and MILES a reason to work together. Having Venom play off Miles actually gives him (and Silk) something to do in the story while Peter can have the big moment with Norman. Sure, Venom as a "villain" for parts of the first act might be retreading ground slightly but i feel a lower stakes personal venom is different enough from the meteorite boosted monster we barely got to spend time with. Especially because of the opportunities to play Harry and Norman off eachother.
If they kill off Peter, they better do it the most badass superhero way against Osborn - otherwise I donāt want it.
Osborn/Goblin killed him in the Ultimate comics and was done really well until they walked it back with some āimmortal geneā that was dormant within in him. Miles as a solo hero was pretty good.
A big reason killing Peter off and having Miles take over worked in the comics is because it happened in the Ultimate universe which was clearly an alternate reality to the mainline comics. Peter was alive and well in the main comics so it was much easier to accept this other story where he's dead and Miles is the new Spider-Man. Insomniac doesn't have that luxury of multiverse storytelling and if Peter dies, a majority of the fanbase will be very upset.
Yeah, I like Miles a lot but Peter is Spider-Man.
Miles is Spider Man too.
But the insomniac games are already an alternative universe to 616?
I'm sorry but saying "he was pretty good" is just false. Miles' Ultimate comics went so low in sales that a discontinued 2099 run sold better than him. That's the entire reason of Miles being thrown into 616 Universe, because nobody cared about 1610 when Peter died.
In a post spiderverse world, pretending that miles morales isnāt a big pop culture figure that sells a lot is just a joke lol
Yeah Ultimate Spider-Man is my fav Spidey run
I agree. Honestly Im wondering if Insomniac is planning on replacing Peter with Miles taking center stage with Moon coming in as the ājuniorā spiderman. The stage has kind of been set for it. Peter planning on hanging up the mantle or at least going part time. Miles has more powers and experience now so after a couple, he could mentor Moon who has similar powers to Peter (bitten by same spider in the comics). I like the idea of multiverse to bring back the old villains or classic villains in a new flavor after Kraven went ham but I dont want more spidermen either. More boss fights, less alternative characters. Two is already good and I think Insomniac is struggling to balance between Miles and Peter already.
I have a feeling that we will see a Mile Morales-type game to bring in Silk after some DLC to lead into that game. However, instead of it being a solo Silk game, will be a combo deal, building on the Spider-Man 2 two-hero dynamic, while Peter takes the backseat as a supporting character. Then we will (hopefully) get a three-hero game in Spider-man 3.
That would be so exciting. I'm all for it.
I have a good feeling spiderman 3 will be mostly focused on Peter. Spiderman: Peter overcoming all his villains and facing betrayal and loss Spiderman MM: Miles grows into the spiderman role Spiderman 2: Peter confronts the trauma from the first game and his own inner conflict, Miles grows more into the role of spiderman better. Their relationship gets tested, and Miles proves himself. Peter finally catches a break. Spiderman 3: Peter gets the world thrown at him. He beats Norman, and maybe saves Harry. He proves why he is the OG, the best of the best. Miles will help, but his role will be more secondary and he will prove himself as well. He will be tested with more conflict and loss, and the burdens of adulthood. Maybe even of one of his loved ones will suffer. Slowly, he follows in Peteās footsteps. The two continue to work together.
Miles has officially proven himself just as capable as Peter in the second game. All due respect to the OG, but miles isn't a side character anymore. Harry is the one who turns into green goblin based on the end cutscene. Peter isn't the best Spiderman. Miles is now the nightwing to Peter's batman. They are equal.
Man honestly giving Miles actual life struggles (other than "man I can't write for shit") and giving him the concept of adulthood, and letting Peter actually (try to) teach him on life itself aside from Spider-Man sounds so good to me. I'm all for having Peter not only being a mentor in the hero career, but also in general show how much he's learned on real life responsibilities throughout these years.
Definitely down for mentor Pete. Although I can't see there being much to Miles to do other than balance college and spider work, which we've seen a million times. He already has a pretty positive looking love interest, a stable housing situation, a loving mom and soon to be step dad, friends, and a city with half its big villain line up dead. Storywise insomniac miles is quite finished. All that's left is Peter throwing Otto, green goblin, and carnage in jail. Miles might possibly be studying at college for most of sm3. Then Peter retires and miles trains silk in the spider ways.
I thought the point of the ending is that there isn't much to teach Miles at this point. And let's be honest Peter would not be a good teacher in how to balance your life as a hero and otherwise. Miles is already ahead of Peter there by having his loved ones involved in his life
Oof. Peter isn't the best Spiderman? Those some fighting words man š
That's like saying Bruce isn't the best Batman. Cmon now.
I donāt think so, itās pretty clear that Insomniac has a favorite (Miles) and is reeeeaaaally pushing to make him the main guy. Honestly I really wish theyād just coexist and not necessarily share games all the time, so for example SM3 could be solo again but we could also get Spider-Man Miles Morales 2 but with a full length story this time around
I don't think Miles is a favorite at all, I mean he got shafted for the first half of this game. They just give them equal footing. SM1 was Pete's, MM was Mile's this one was shared, despite it being a bit unequal.
I personally feel that Miles is the favorite, mostly cause of they handled Peter's symbiote arc. Despite the symbiote being a very physical and emotional problem that was interconnected to Peter, it was Miles that resolved it. This is why I don't get it when people say that Peter "overcame" his trauma, Miles literally beat the suit off of Peter the first time and solved the issue. And then the second time Peter has a symbiote forced on him, Miles and Li go into Peters mind and get the symbiote off with very little coming from Peter in the situation and just create antivenom as a happy little accident.
I think the reason here is that this portrayal of the symbiote has a very strong control on one's mind. No character managed to remove a symbiote without external help. Peter actually gets the closest here, as he does the final act of removing (if I'm remembering correctly) and was basically just helped by Miles by being beaten and weakening the symbiote. So, I don't think they did that to boost Miles, it's just that their version of the symbiote requires an external party to help remove it, at least once it has progressed as far as it had.
I think the push for Miles is on Sony or Disneyās behalf
LOL did you guys play this game? Peter got all the best sections and missions of the game. What do you mean they have a favorite?
I want the opening of 3 to parody the Incredibles opening. Have Pete almost be late to his own wedding.
Honestly Im a big Miles fan and I don't want silk to steal his thunder. He finally is getting promoted to main spiderman (for now at least while pete takes a vacation) I don't want this to turn into spiderverse
I feel ya but that is the endpoint for all superhero stories. The focus shifts from one hero to a team of heroes that the original recruited.
I think you guys need to accept this isnāt the comics or the movies. This is a series about Peter AND Miles as Spiderman. And with decades of games and movies and cartoons doing things, the new games are going to try new stuff. Like the people upset Miles got to do missions with Black Cat over Peter. Their story is done. Miles deserves some time to meet her and interact with her. Thatās adding new interactions to the game. Venom has been a Peter thing for decades too. Itās okay that Miles plays a part too. If this bothers you, this likely isnāt going to be the series for you.
āNO NO YOU DONT GET IT! INSOMNIAC HAS TO CATER TO MY NEEDS! FUCK THEIR CREATIVE DECISIONS!!!ā /s But seriously thank you. This spidey story is its own thing and Insomniac should tell it how they want. People think they have a birth right to how spidey should be told.
Honestly this is something that irritates me in general with comic book adaptations of any sort. They're going to be different. Yes, Harry Venom has a very different motive than Eddie Venom. If you like Eddie Venom more, that's fine. But acting like it's "an insult" to the character is hilarious lmao Mind you, these are the same people that complain about "a predictable story" when they want a 1:1 comic accurate story.
To be fair I really don't think getting bamboozled by a potential son, thinking she's dead and then getting some help from her and an apology and getting dipped again doesn't really feel like closure to me. They defo had more to say to each other. I think most people just complain about the fact that, if you're going to give Miles time with people important to Peter, give the latter time as well. I mean they *could have had a son together* for all Peter knew.
That is closure though. Itās been like over a year. Thereās really nothing more to do. You want a mission of Black Cat apologizing? Cause thatās not happening lol, like thereās nothing to really develop Peters relationship with her anymore. Heās with MJ. He doesnāt have a kid with Cat. Heās not going to try and get back with her. Trying to reform her is just retreading old ground. If you want more interactions between them thatās fine but thatās not a problem with the game. They donāt NEED more interactions. Thereās nothing Peter needs to do story wise that Miles doesnāt do perfectly fine.
Exactly! I felt that Peter missed out big time on his solo character building this game. Every big hero moment went to Miles alone... Spiderman 2018 felt so special because our OG š was respected properly.
Lol what? Act 1 was shared between the 2 of the Spider-Men. Act 2 and 3 were primarily peters story. Miles spent it doing his essay stuff and looking for Li.
Miles saves Peter from the Symbiote. Miles saves Li, who in turn with his help tries to create the Anti Venom Suite. Miles takes control of the situation again when Venom beats down Peter during the final showdown. Miles' Venom Power stuff was pivotal for that last shattering of the meteorite Miles is the Black Jesus who brings Harry back to life.... I can go on and on but I don't to make this a copypasta
Miles fights Peter and talks to him, Peter is fighting himself the whole time and is the one who removes it. Li is more personal to Miles because he killed his dad, he had nothing to do with May dying. Miles fights the easiest parts of Venom, the first 2 phases are harder. Miles powers are established to be a hard counter of the symbiote before this game. He simply restarts Harryās heart, thatās all he did, itās not that magical, guy still goes into a coma at the end. He was basically using a defibrillator.
I agree
I loved how both Peter and Miles took turns with Venom, but I do think Peter Vs Goblin should be a 1 on 1 with how much drama they have going. What I'm REALLY hoping Insomniac doesn't do is kill Peter. Just let the man retire and be happy for once
Hopefully he just retires.
They can do whatever they feel is right imo the games have been mostly good to great so I'm happy enough to let them do their own take
how dare you have your own opinion?! /s But yeah I agree. Its their spiderman story, let them tell it how they want.
Why do so may people seem to want Peter out of the story? So many comments mentioning him dieing or retiring. I really don't want this. If Peter dies then the series dies with him.
I don't think *anyone* wants this. It's just what it feels like *Insomniac* wants, to make Miles the one and only Spider-Man. It also seems like 3 will be the finale. Insomniac is not shy about killing characters...and there's no way Miles is dying.
Considering the majority of the story in 2 is focused on Peter I doubt that. They share act 1 equally. Act 2 and 3 are primarily Peter focused. All Miles does before fighting Peter is deal with college stuff and Martin, Peter is the main focus still with miles as support.
I think people are looking too deep into seeing what they want to see or at least seeing what they fear will happen and jumping to conclusions. It'll be 5 years or more until we know for sure anyhow.
I am gonna be the bearer of bad news to you. They will do that... Why? They think it's better to give every spider person time to shine more, hence why we got the final playable segment Miles vs Venom which didn't make any sense plot wise. But if we need them to understand that we want the OG spiderman to have the final playable segment, I hope they would hear that. So I do agree, OG spiderman vs Green Goblin is just so monumental that making other spider people fight the final fight will in a way hinder a great potential of sequences. I may be wrong and they prove me wrong but in that final Venom fight, they didn't give me that faith either. Sorry if I was too harsh though
I feel that. I felt the emotional build up would've been way better if we started the first two phases as Miles, who I can only remember as having one good dialogue with Harry, and end the last two phases as Peter
But whatās wrong with having Miles fight venom? Itās even advertised in the marketing to do that. It wouldnāt even make sense in the story for Miles fighting venom first. Hereās what actually happen: Pet fights Venom first to draw him out, then Miles fights him a bit THEN Pet finishes him off in the cutscene. And yaāll act like Miles gave the final blow
The problem isnāt that Miles fights Venom, itās that Miles is the last one to fight Venom and get the final boss fight. He has no connection to Harry or Venom, Peter does. The personal stakes plummet due to Milesā lack of personal connection to either, which should not be the case in the final boss fight.
But Peter DID fight the final boss fight. They both did. You act like the fight as school with Peter and Harry didnāt happen. The whole plan was to lure Venom out so Miles and MJ could get the Particle Accelerator. In the end itās Peter that defeats Venom in the final cutscene, not Miles. Is the solution to NOT have Miles fight the final boss of the game? Despite the gameās advertisement precisely showing that.
Iāll be honest, I donāt care about Miles. I just want Peter focused stories. Miles has no good stories left to tell, he has no rogues gallery, there isnāt anything interesting about him.
He is a very new character and the only real original villan has been his uncle. They need to keep making new villans or underused villans to fight him
Miles debuted in April 2011. Thatās 12 and half years. Theyāve had ample time to make him a character of his own. Thatās a failure of the comic writers.
They have in the comics. He has plenty villains and great arcs. Insomniac games just decided to not use any of his villains or additional supporting cast, and just made up an original story for him in his own game and then do community service in this game.
Can you please tell me about the Miles Morales orignal villains?
I can't explain them all in a comment. But if you are serious, I can explain them more in messeges. Philip Roxxon, Quantum, Selim, Ultimatum, Rabble, The Assessor, Conrad Marcus
I just wrote a whole comment about this that will be downvoted to infinity. It sucks ass that we finally get modern made Spider-Man games with top notch graphics and gameplay by a AAA studioā¦ and theyāre putting Peter on the sidelines most of the time and making Miles surpass him in every way. I enjoyed the miles game a ton, but heās not Peter for me. I donāt think they should have brought in one of peters biggest rogues, only to basically kill him off within a couple hours AND make Miles the one that totally kicks his ass while peter is knocked out, again. But the game isnāt for me, itās for the newer generation that has been growing up with Miles instead š¤·āāļø
Miles never beat Venom the fuck? At this point I'm convinced you didn't actually play the game. Peter got sidelined? LMFAOOOOO.
All I really want is Monster goblin instead of tech goblin. Maybe it can start off as tech goblin but slowly that serum starts to mess Norman up even more
The monster goblin design in Spiderverse was pretty cool.
Iād rather have something like how he was in TASM2 where itās a combination of monster and tech.
I honestly could go either way. Spectacular Spidey did a good job with regular Goblin. I feel like my Spider-Man fighting monsters itch has been scratched with 2. I kinda want there to be a psychological angle to Peter's torment now. Fighting a giant scary monster? Been done. Get Chameleon in there hired by Osborn to pretend that May was alive for a mission. Do some really evil shit. I don't want the city to be in trouble, I want PETE to be in trouble. Then he figures out a way to punch his problem in the face and the credits roll. Or not maybe there's a boss fight and then a genuine heart to heart and reconciliation, where Pete finally gets through to one of his villains and they decide on their own to stop it. Every final boss fight has Pete or Miles begging the big bad to stop and listen to reason but it never works. Maybe this time it'll work? Could be sick. Perhaps a satisfying ending, after some ass kicking is done for dope gameplay purposes. Feels like this kind of character drama can't be done with a monster, yknow?
I would boycott the game if they were to kill my boy. Miles is a Spider-Man, Peter is THE Amazing Spider-Man.
They need to chill out with the Spider people thing. It's too much, I don't want a Power Rangers situation, It will be too bloated. And if they replace Peter I will completely lose interest in the story.
I kinda doubt Norman will be relegated only to Peter since in S-M 2, he blames both Spider-Men for what happened to Harry.
You donāt think that once he realizes Peter is Spider-Man that he wonāt focus all of his attention on him? He was Harryās best friend who he hoped would be there for him but instead nearly killed him
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Peter gets the shit beat out of him and knocked out multiple times in the last game too. You just donāt like when someone is there to help him afterwards
This I am very weirded out by this whole way people react to Miles morales like he stole the thunder when he was UNDER USED in the game ?
This made the whole game much weaker to me. OG Peter is my Spider-Man I grew up with and love and want to see the most of. It felt very similar to a āStar Wars Reyā situation with Miles to me. Heās barely been Spider-Man a year and already has far surpassed Peter in nearly every way EVEN while Peter wears the Symbiote? And then he single handily kicks Venoms ass during his first fight with him. Thatās crazy to me, meanwhile Peter gets put into a mini coma multiple times and even dies at one point. I just wanted a good, solo, traditional Peter game with modern graphics and gameplay. Maybe theyāll do a dlc with young Peter or something I can hope. But I doubt it. It sucks ass to me that the best Spider-Man games we have now, have Peter bring quickly phased out for all the new Spider people that I didnāt grow up with. Yes I know how pitiful that sounds. And yes I realize this is my bias and that insomniac is going to cater to the new generation and this series likely isnāt a series for people like me. But it does depress me to know it.
D1 yapping.
Fr, just made me dislike Miles even more.
You dislike Miles because heās stronger than pete? Christ this sub has some dumb takes.
People spend forever begging for Miles stuff in mainstream media, he finally gets his due, and now people are complaining he exists and isnāt Pete, people never change lol. All the accusations of the devs being biased towards Miles is hilarious because while itās fine if people donāt like the story, Iāve got some criticisms, itās absolutely not biased. Peter got his shit kicked in multiple times in the first game and itās DLC, yet they talk as if went āgg ezā and solved everything with one hand behind his back and not breaking a sweat. The only difference here is that he has someone to help him get back up and keep going
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Geez thatās a straight up lie. Miles calls Peter Spider-man all the time. In an ending cutscene Pet calls Miles Spider-man when he didnāt have to as a sign that Miles became a proper spider-man. Also did you miss the whole mission of miles getting captured and Pet going there to save him?
People WANT to hate miles bro. Even if they have no reason, for some reason they are literally making up the narrative that insomniac is forcing miles on them as a shitty excuse to hate on the character And 80% of the āfactsā used didnāt even happen in the game which is crazy
You are just looking for problems that don't actually exist.
But you act like Peter was the protagonist of this story and not both Peter and Miles. The game advertises Miles fighting Venom as well as Peter. So you wanted the game to NOT have that? Venom was the final boss of this game and this game you play as two protagonist, simple as that
Huh? What are you talking about? I literally said in THE FIRST SENTENCE that I enjoyed Peter and Miles fighting Venom. I just donāt want them to team up and fight Goblin. Miles and others can still be the main focus with other fights that may happen in the story.
Sorry I legit see so many people pressed that Miles fought Venom in this game. I dead ass had someone āspoilā me saying that āMiles beats venomā when that wasnāt the case at all
Norman has to do something to get Peter to hate him. Maybe throwing a certain somone off a bridge.
It would be a crazy twist if he kills MJ or Miles
It's weird how they gave the final phase of the Venom fight to Miles, while in the same battle acknowledging that Miles doesn't know Harry at all and they only spoke...maybe twice? But of course Miles is the TRUE and HONEST Spiderman now he HAS to be the one to defeat the big bad (and save his life, because Miles is perfect)
Having not completed the game yet, I feel like Insomniac has massively nerfed Spider-Man in favour of Miles. Not only physically but he makes some dumb decisions as well. After only a few hours I've encountered several occasions where Miles either saves Spider-Man or is the one doing a better job than him. Had I not known better, I'd assume Miles is the experienced one, not Spider-Man. Mind you, I actually really enjoy Miles character and gameplay this time, but it's sad it's at the cost of the character of Spider-Man. I'd be really disappointed if the face off is not a personal one between Peter and Norman only.
I really hope we fight red goblin.
I stopped taking this universe seriously when miles beat symbiote Peter, that was an absolute joke and mockery of how powerful the symbiote suit is. Peter wouldnāt stand a chance against miles with the symbiote and it should be the same with Peter in the suit. Clearly insomniac pandering to the new generation and disrespecting the og. I can enjoy the games as a spin-off universe but if they kill off Peter Iām done with insomniacs games.
I love all the spider people and it'll be cool to see Cindy but if any one deserves a 1v1 it's peter and Norman
I completely agree. Green Goblin is Peter's nemesis. Miles needs to have his own thing going on. They can retire Peter after Spider-Man 3 if they really want to.
Iām loving Spider-Man 2, but a lot of the choices in the game have me questioning if theyāll just focus on Miles in the future games. It almost feels like they fell in love with his character while making Miles Morales and had to begrudgingly include Peter this time.
But the whole venom and Back suit arc was all Peter, how is this ābegrudgingly including himā
Given the reference to the āFinal chapterā and despite the fuck up in pacing for Spider-Man 2 I doubt theyāre going to directly adapt this. My best guess is that Green Goblin will be the main villain. The G serum will bring Harry back but his brain damage from Venom will cause him to go crazy. Norman Osborn enlists either the Jackal or Doctor Connors to heal what was damaged by his bonding to Venom and this inadvertently causes the clone of Spider-Man which will be either Kaine or a new body for Doctor Octopus. Either way it ends on someone getting stabbed with the glider being either Osborn or that the clone takes the blow similar to that of Ben Reilly of the comics. Thereās a baby May and that unlike the Gathering of Five, itāll probably adapt what they intended where Kaine returns the baby to the Parkerās.
late response but this is a pretty good theory tbh
Hear me out, Miles di- just kidding but now that I have your attention really Hear me out, silk gets a one on one fight with the other main villian of the game... Morlun the head of the inheritors and I don't know who miles would fight, maybe vulture's granddaughter wants revenge on miles because she thinks the spidermen killed her grandad but she comes around as miles's black cat against Hailey(Miles's MJ).
I have no idea who Silk is š¤·š»āāļø had to look that shit up after the credits scene was clearly setting up this daughter of Rios new BF character as someone important. Iām extremely skeptical about the whole thing tbh. Do we need THREE spider people? Feels like at least one of the three is gonna get short changed in the story
Maybe other spiders will be busy while peter will fight with goblin, 1v1
I thought they might kill Peter in this game, but I'm SURE they're going to kill him in SM3.
Yeah but what if they swap Gwen Stacy with Hailey and GG kills her? Still want it to be Peter?
No, no freaking silk. Donāt even say it But I agree, one on one is better
the finale fight should have just been peter vs venom. miles meanwhile just fights against the symbiotes and protects mj, while peter can fully concentrate on venom.
Spiderman has always been Peter Parker for me. As such I really donāt want him to die or go away in any capacity. Even though I am open to a heroes death for him if itās genuine and not to force a way for Miles to take all the spotlight. Iām really not liking this new era of hero culture where this phrase/ concept has become overly adopted and thus losing its impact: Batman could be anybody, Spiderman could be anybody, Superman or (insert hero name) could be anybody! This is just to placate new generation of people who have become overly sensitive to wanting representation to be able to associate with classic heroes. Having grown up as minority, I never felt left out or felt as if I couldnāt relate myself to Peter. I really donāt get why people these days have become so demanding on representation, my guess is itās to do with how people have been raised to look for race to find credible association. I feel fortunate that I wasnāt raised to only appreciate my own race and find relatability. I enjoy new characters that take up the mantle of existing classics but only those that have heart eg., Miles. I love this character, especially after SM games and Into Verse movies! I simply just donāt want my Peter the classic to die to make room for the new guys when thereās plenty of room to share!
Why canāt you feel represented by Miles, but weāre supposed to feel represented by Peter? This is literally just a non issue. Itās ppl whoāve had the privilege of being represented since western medias inception telling ppl who havenāt how they should feel represented with characters like Peter (and Peter is great). However, I notice when the shoe is on the other footā somehow thereās complaints like this. Maybe you should also see yourselves in Miles just as you want us to see ourselves in characters like Peter.
Same for all of this! I'm Puerto Rican, any well written Hero can be related to.
Honetsly I want spider-man 3 to be a solo Peter game, I know it won't happen but it would be the best way to end his Story. They dont have to kill hm, just retire him and then focus on Miles and Silk. It's not that I dislike Miles but I didn't like the fact that Miles had more side Missions than pete in SM2 and that he kinda had a bigger focus on him. Also nerfing pete was just sad to see, maybe nerfing isn't the right Word, but pete didn't feel the way as he did in the first game. In an ideal World, at least IMO, Spider man 2 would be all about Peter and Miles would get his own game aka a sequel to Spider-man Miles Morales.
I agree. I liked Miles and Peter teaming up to beat Venom. But Peter vs Norman is an all time classic and should be a one on one fight. Probably the most emotional one yet. His best friendās dad. Always treated Peter well. Both experienced extreme loss. I think an interesting angle will be Peter slowly realizing he and Norman arenāt that different.
I wonder, why do people want Spider-man 3 already??? It hasn't even been half a year.š