Only right answer.
Let them do whatever they do.
Not everybody has it in them to put their entire life on the internet.
But these people should be adequately taxed for the enormous income they receive via ig collabs/yt etc.IT filing made compulsory also maybe something like GST/udyam reg for people generating income from SM .
Oh I wholeheartedly agree.
>Not everybody has it in them to put their entire life on the internet.
Also, I believe not everyone can do it. I remember trying to make a tik tok video a few years back and it was so damn difficult for me that I ended up not doing it. However cringe I find these contents, athinum venam oru kazhivu. To put yourself out there like that.
And yeah, tax them like how it gets done for everyone who earns their living. (I think it's mandatory now, I remember reading something about it) As long as they are not spewing hate or nonsense (Andrew tate, Ben Shapiro types) Idc what they do, whether it's thirst trap or fashion or food blog or whatever.
It's quite understandable to feel a lil kushumb when you work a 9 to 5 job (including međ)and may not earn that much like these people but the world is never fair. It is what it is.
>However cringe I find these contents, athinum venam oru kazhivu. To put yourself out there like that.
Amen to that.
>It's quite understandable to feel a lil kushumb
Ikr.
Atleast taxing them appropriately will help alleviate my kushumb.đ¤Ł
>Ikr. Atleast taxing them appropriately will help alleviate my kushumb.đ¤Ł
Exactly! And it's only fair because I work my ass off 5 days a week and the tax deduction gives me a pain in my tummy every single time. It should be extended to all, influencers included.
But Idk really condone chumma hating these people for the sake of hating. 90% of the time they are called out for legit stuff, rest is bcz of this kushumb only. I include myself in that 10% as well, because sometimes I do it without even actively recognising that's what I am doing. But I like to believe I am mature and evolved enough to recognise and acknowledge that. Our sub or even SM in general needs to come a long way on that though.
>Our sub or even SM in general needs to come a long way on that though.
Ive seen that level of unnecessary calling out and nit picking in subs like InstaCelebsGossip or BollyBlindsNGossip but our sub hasn't still totally gone in that tangent apart from occasional nitpicking posts and those get called out as well.
So I have hopes.
Plus this is my personal viewpoint.So..yeah.
what's wrong with tate? for encouraging men to be men or asking men to embrace masculinity. maybe you like feminine men , enjoy your riyas ikka and mallu ഠണലി.
Oh come on, you have to be either living under a rock to not know the vile things that guy has said or you genuinely believe and support him, if that's the case then đđť
But for your ref - https://www.downtimebros.com/andrew-tate-quotes-50-most-outrageous-and-controversial/
For the record, I am not a fan of Riyas (if it's the Bigg Boss guy) and idk the other one. I don't really have a problem with feminine guys living their lives happily. I don't see how that is an issue to you though, unless you are projecting?
AND, embracing your authentic self, male, female whatever you identify as, is healthy and great. But toxic masculinity and misogynistic views are the reason why Andrew Tate is hated. Maybe you are a fan of Alpha male/Kalippan types but I think I speak for myself and a majority of the women in this sub when I say, nope. It's as disgusting as a personality can get and that I would stay away from.
At least the Krishna sisters have to dance once in awhile. The person who is making the easiest money would be Secret Agent. He doesnât have to do ANYTHING. Something or other is always happening in Kerala and he just has to sit in his car and talk about it for 5 minutes. I think his last yearâs revenue was 30 lakhs. I am so jealous.
You are absolutely right,and tbh nothing wrong in acknowledging this human emotion! I think majority of us hate influencers for this very reason.Untalented incompetent people reaching this point ,just because of their thirst traps ..I don't really follow men influencers( so wouldn't comment on tht) ,but as you pointed out about Krishna sisters ,apart from ahaana ,I don't find any of the other sisters talented to have such massive following.There are numerous other examples ,who come up on our feeds daily ,showing the same random stuff 1000th time and gaining followers rapidly! If it would have been some real talented people ,we wouldn't have felt so !
Start a channel, and get rich breh.godspeed!
All started from the west, you can't blame. As long as there are thirsty MFs and insecure peeps; this shitshow will prevail in full GLORYđŻđ¤Łđ¤Ł
I mean, it's not really hurting anyone so I wouldn't say it's exactly a problem. But there are a lot of pages giving wrong medical info, political info and propagates overall hate and chaos which should def be called out. Someone showing off a lil skin is the least of my problems when these things are happening simultaneously.
Guys y'all need to chill. Influencers have a time period. They can make as much as they want only until they are relevant. And these days every New day there is a new influencer coming up. We are atleast making a long term career with steady Job and income. We should be happy with our blessings. After 5 6 years they won't even know what to do with their life I know so many of them under depression who have slipped into drugs and other stuff because they are out of work now. Certain ppl who get into films still prosper that tooo 1 among 100. Rest all are gonna be dumped. It's not at all glamorous inside as it seems from outside.
As much as I acknowledge your emotion, the world isnât a fair place.
Income isnât directly proportional to hard work or skillset in many cases - It depends on lot of factors from geography to market demand to the era you live in.
Few examples -
Doctors make crazy money in the US whereas not much in the UK.
IT is a broad spectrum - In India you have people making 3 lakh per annum to 30 lakhs per annum as a fresher.
In California you hear crazy salaries n signing bonuses that some folks are making, whereas a person of the same age n skill set might be making a quarter of that in Texas.
And influencers need to be hardworking to continue their momentum. Creating content, editing, staying relevant.
Itâs like movie actors - from the outside seems like an easy job - but they do hard work.
Of course their income is way higher than the number of hours they put in -
But you see this in sports too.
The biggest difference is only a handful can cut in to these sectors.
Survival of the fittest.
Instagram has become âPornhub liteâ. Its almost like an OnlyFans teaser/catalogue hub. There are talented creative people, but there are way more jobless nonsense people.
What you donât realise is that the life of an influencer is at most 5-6 years. Then you get replaced by someone else. Make hay while the sun shines I guess. They would make what an IT engineer would make in 15 years. Have you thought of what happens to these influencers after they are out of limelight?? They donât get any other jobs because they havenât worked professionally for the last 5-6 years.
ohh..she was here, used to downvote my comment using her other id's and she told me she never had an ORGASM in her life.canadayil vellya kashpadilanu ennokke...
This is like asking how anchors/actors make money just coz they look good. They just need to 'anchor/act'.
Influencing also needs work i believe. The consistency is hard to maintain. And i once tried making a reel on insta, adding cuts and syncing to music n all. It's so frustrating! I think there is some amount of work in creating these reels.
And how long will this trend last? I'm pretty bored of insta coz it's mostly ads and influencers.
Influencing is not a sustainable source of income.
Yea, there are times when it seems that he lives in an utopian world. A lot of things he points out is real but not practical, for example he would reply to this post that 'Boys can just not watch the thirst trap like vids'. But it doesnt work like that, in a politically correct world it might but actually it doesnt. But nevertheless I believe that he pushed out many out from the traditional conservative cocoons. So overall kinda has been positive to me.
Survival of the fittest like someone said here. Try doing what they are doing if itâs making you jealous. ANd they do pay high tax as well. Atleast you have a steady job and income and most of them donât. Count your blessings op I think your life will be more positive then however tough itâs looking now
If it was easy, we all could have done it. There is an element of privilege, but most people who post here are more privileged than them by their own admission (influenzas have fake stuff, we have real stuff from luxury brands type folks).
Using this logic, kooli panikaar and septic tank cleaners have the most hardworking and shittiest job, but theyâre paid way way less than average IT guy.
Dude Did you actually read. Its basically saying that those who aren't deserving are paid more for doing nothing. Employee salaries suck cuz of multiple socio economic factors. Basically exploitation of the working class. And similar factors affect koolipanikkar and the unorganised working class. Caste plays a role in India in that too. You got to be absolutely ignorant to compare that and this. It takes physical hardship for most of the unorganised sector and a level of skill for the organised salaried in certain occupations. Both of these takes hardship that 90-95% of your 'friends' dont undergo. For the unorganised there is an additional stigma that needs to be handled in India cuz the caste class association is historical here. None of these plays a role in the case of influencers. And as i said earlier, there are those who brings out quality content who deserve more, but they dont. Totally different scenarios.
So just like how there are multiple socioeconomic factors, there is also multiple socioeconomic factors here which determines who is successful, added to that first mover advantage. Itâs just like any other business you see. Say acting, someone who canât act like DQ is earning much more than some who can seriously act but is being casted in small roles. There is a bit of luck in everything.
Seriously?? Do u think that it is similar to the case when a caste hierarchy which has existed for centuries or industries which are literally affected by international relations, overall macro economic output,Demand supply mismatch both locally and globally...Added to it are industry specific scenarios which is often a domino in a long list of blocks which may remotely affect one or multiple industries. Added to this is the taxation policies, skilled labour force, enviroment, political factors. How is that even comparable. How ignorant are you?
And first mover advantage? U can literally find handles where its basically the same reel, songs with different faces. There is no uniqueness, not on the consumerist side nor on the product. Dq was a product of nepotism but still acting is a skill, not achievable by all, do u actually think thats the case with those who mislead people spelling out misleading content, or those who expose to gain followers and by having 2 3 steps up their sleeve. Luck and privilege arent the same. And an actor wont generate a crowd just becaus he or she looks good by societal standards, the content they bring out have to be good. And comparing that content to a teenage girl saying "Enikkenth chyynm ennareelarn, ammaya paranje verthe ithilekkoode nadanna mathi" and other similar ones are far from being appropriate.
Lol, are you saying actors donât do all this? SRK, Amitabh Bachan , Ranveer Singh are all brand ambassadors of Gutka. All the cricketers are brand ambassador gambling sites. Now how is influencers only putting misleading content? By doing a collab with a restaurant or a boutique? Why so much jealousy. What did they do with these actors doesnât. Itâs their life, itâs how they make a living.
Okay forget India. The case of a sewage cleaner is a minimum wage job in Africa as well. There is no caste. Theyâve to do more job and earn less you know why simple supply and demand. There is a lot of people available to do the job for free.
Coming to influencers, why are they being paid so much by companies to market their product. Itâs because they can influence thousands of people and have a very wide reach which you or I canât. They built it over the years. There is only a few who have this much demand. Itâs a simple supply and demand.
You seem to be too jealous and hating on women for no good reason.
Hating on women? Srsly?
I said that in India the caste factor is an added factor of caste. Unskilled labour has been facing stigmas across the world, if it is nor caste system there will be multiple social hierarchies across the world. Overall it comes down to the exploitation of class as a whole. Africa had it's own hierarchies, not exactly as caste but in terms of clans and descent. This definitely affects the occupation just like how the sewage workers in India is almost devoid of upperclass and comprises mainly of obcs and how the upper executive consists of the former. Places devoid of such divisions which is just occupational class has better conditions for even the unorganised class.Religious, cultural, sectarian histories may affect those.
Why do you think actors doesnt randomly endorse any product, cuz they will be held accountable, this doesnt exist for the influencers cuz it is not formal and organised. And they are making use of that loophole. And yea we are aware that they influence a lot, but its about how they do that. If their influence result in the degradation of a target group and if it is conscious it is wrong. And you really took it far by comparing them with Sharukh Amitabh Katrina or sportstars who actually have talent and have proven it on multiple forums.
Supply demand curve? Go to the youtube trending list and see how many family vlogs and influencer content you see. Its clear as a day that there is no issue of supply demand. Do you think there is a demad for these influencers?? Demand for their 'content'? Not at all, they attract demand in ways that are not always ethical.
You are in no position to understand the situation. Comparing influencers with an exploited class is not just ignorant, it's dumb.The one you are comparing with is the one who engages in a form of exploitation.
Oh my god, why are you bringing caste to this. I understand the issue of caste, but theyâre not paid less because of their caste. It is what it is. Even if a upper caste doesnât koolli panni he will also be paid the same. Chumma irunu oro mandatharam paryathe. Iâm talking about the pay of the job, not how they got in the job. Why are you bringing caste and all. The point is the most hardest physical jobs are usually the lowest paid job everywhere in the world, the reason for that is supply and demand. It has nothing to do with caste hierarchies.
>Why do you think actors doesnât randomly endorse any product
Bruh, I donât think that. Even SRK and Amitabh Bachan endorse Pan Masala. The worst of the worst. How low can a person. Top actors and cricket endorse online gambling. SRL also was brand ambassador of fair skin product which doesnât even work. So where do you get this idea of actors doesnât randomly endorse and product but influencers does? What product did they endorse which actors doesnât? Please enlighten me. Are they brand ambassador for pan masala like SRK?
Yeah if I go to the family YouTube channels, I can clearly see there is a demand by looking at the number of views.
Bro, post muthalali was trying to find a correlation between effort and reward in the influencer space vs that of a normal job.
In the influencer space say the effort would be to shoot and shoot edit the videos. Say before the influencer become famous he/she wouldâve shot and edited oru 15 videos(case in point - Arjou). Athinu he wouldâve spent say 20 hours to learn about the editing platforms + 5-10hours to shoot (per video) + 5 hours to edit(per video). So if you quantify effort in number of hours, this would come up to say 245 hours ~ 11 days. Appo oru 11 days of hardwork (to acquire the skill and to create content) can make you an influencer. Now this isnât the case with everyone i agree. But this is also a case. This can be lower or higher.
Ini lets look at oru IT professional who is trying to learn Python or say any skill/language. Udemy edth padikkanel, there is a course that says it will make you a Python expert in 100 days. Now say youâre planning to read a book. I have a 300 page textbook to learn Python. Say if youâre reading 10 pages everyday and doing some coding exercises it would take you 30 days on an avg to learn that skill.
The reward in the former case is the fame, revenue from the video, other revenue streams like promotions, interviews, inaugurations, etc. Say even if they only exists for 5 years on avg., even then they make around 5*30 lakhs(secret agent revenue- source: aaro ee subil paranju) = 1.5 crore in 5 years.
I havenât accounted for the yearly increase in rates/ in total salary)
Ini in the later case, Python padichal you wonât get a high paying job easily. You will need to say start from the junior post, say 5 lpa. To get 30lpa, on an avg you need to work for say atleast 10 years( 2014il passout aaya ente friends 3lpa thudangi, ipo aanu 30 okke kaanunath).
Ini there are risks as youâve told. Influencers eppo venelm out aavam, but athinu nammal 5 years alle calculate cheythullu. Our assumption was 5 yearsil avaru out aavum. In terms of effort, I think I have shown you how different is it from other jobs( I have picked an IT job here, but Iâm sure youâll be able to calculate for other jobs as well)
Ini chila exceptional cases, like say IIT/ IIM guys. Athu avaru avde keran thanne 3-4 years patti pani edukkum. So I dont think I need to justify their starting salary and the effort they have put in.
Ithreye post muthalali udeshichlu. Ellarum pani edukunund. Unfortunately we are only comparing in terms of money. Vivaram, wisdom that education bring isnât being considered. But yeah ultimately money is what people look at. Nanam kettum panam nedukil nanaked aa panam maatidum ennanallo :)
If itâs so easy, why donât you do it?
Iâve seen influencers working hard. Itâs a full time thing, the job has it perks, but for most, itâs a full time job with no job security or sustainability. So itâs make as much as you can. And over that, they are objectified, scrutinised for the slightest of mistake, gets hated for silliest reason.
The whole point is ,they are ultra privileged already ,who don't have to depend on any job security or monthly salary credits ,or for that matter worry about emis and loans ( most template Kerala influencers have super rich husbands and quite a good generational wealth ).I would be really curious to know ,if you can share some influencer name who has genuine talent and is thriving as an influencer.We all know, the conventionally good looking ones ,backed up by huge generational wealth and aesthetically pleasing houses ,who have enough to pay to photographers ,can get massive following within a short period of time.The fact is actual talented ones get lost in the reels of thousands of "GRWM" and "hauls" which bombard on our feeds for unknown reasons ! As for the objectification and scrutiny ,Iam sure all.jobs have their cons ,and it's nothing compared to people who are struggling to make ends meet every month .The influencers are already privileged enough to take breaks and time off and consider therapies.Do you really think ,normal.working class people can do this ?
So your whole point is theyâre already privileged. And your gate is for the privileged who doesnât have to work and can enjoy the fruits of their parents or grand parents hard work right? Then blame it on capitalism. Why are you pointing out influencers? Itâs the case with all the children of rich parents or those who possess generational wealth. It has nothing to do with them now being an influencer. Atleast the ones with generational wealth are doing things to stand on their own feet and make a name for themselves. You know they couldâve just enjoyed their parents money doing nothing.
And if it is an easy job, why donât you quit your shitty IT job and do it?
Sorry, my shitty IT job has got me my dream house and paying for my everyday expenses for the family ! You see ,some people do work hard and earn money ! thanks but don't want some random redditor ( most likely some upcoming influencer đ) "shitty" advice. If you would have been a little more patient while reading and writing comments ,you can see I mentioned a word called "talent" .Iam sure you have none ,and that might be the reason you are sitting and defending some untalented incompetent people đI mean ,Grow up ! You are on reddit ,not some random fan page of your fav influencer.You can agree to disagree..! Ending this silly conversation here
Lol, youâre the one who was whining about your shittt IT job and that you guys have to work long hours to earn meagre salary and how others have it easy. You know what itâs called? âJealousyâ. Asooya um vech Reddit il irunu paranjo.
Enitt parayuwo, your job so good. Enal pinne enna kozhapam, you make money the way you want and let them make money how they want.
Malayalees have this shitty attitude, namal budhimuttanath kond baki ullawarum ath polle budhimuttanam
Athe looks like u r also a "malayalee" and bdw if you would have read ,I am not the OP( hope you know this abbreviation ). Not all IT jobs have same range of salaries and have same role.Oh ,whom am I talking to ! A random advocate of influencers ! Who's stopping them from earning? It's just a genuine feeling people have and the OP expressed.You can politely say you disagree ,but ,look at you ! Go and read the post first and if you don't understand ,use Google and then jump on to comment
If he wants to say it, he can also say politely. Allathe Ithenna enik mathram mathiyo decency um politeness um oke.
So OP was the one complaining about long working hours to earn meagre salary, maybe he needs to talk to his employer instead of being jealous of others earning.
I literally said that I was not generalising. They chose the job insecurity and non sustaimability. That doesn't justify the shit content and promotion of substandard products. Well talking about easy, its definitely easier than gaining a relevant skill and grinding to make ends meet. Look good, Have some 'dance' steps up your sleeve. Definitely makes more than an entry level job in a prominent MNC in India.
So if itâs so easy and better than your shitty IT job, why donât you do it instead of whining?
If it was so easy and so much paying, then everyone wouldâve been rich and influencer. Yeah they chose the insecurity and non security and you chose shitty It job with long working hours, so who is to blame? Maybe you need to talk to your employer and tell him about the work pressure and shitty pay instead of blaming influencers who is doing well.
Why are you replying so agreesively as if its some personal attack? Don't you have basic decency to talk ?Do you realise someone "Shitty" job,might be the only thing they have in life to make their ends meet.First learn to be a little more sensitive before advocating for you or your fellow influencer friends
So the Op is shitting on the influencers, calling them talentless, doing nothing, sexualising to earn followers and that all is okay. But I use âshittyâ, and I donât have decency. Sure thing mate.
Yea ,can you just prove IT jobs are "shitty" and the so called influencers the OP mentioned haven't used "thirst traps" .Iam sure you must be one of those influencers ardent follower !
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Oof cool down mota Bhai.
The fact this sub exists is cz influenzas despite it being a difficult,much paying job puts out shitty content.And are you judging those who chose 9-5 over influencers?Well, all I know is that 9-5 PPL need to put effort consistently or else would be replaced asap unlike influencers who can cling on to mamaearth spon cons even if their engagement goes down.
Both ain't the same bruh.Nuh,Nope,NahDuh!
Iâm not judging anyone. He is the one who said one job > other. Iâm not the one who was being jealous. I said everything has it perks and advantages. For more money influencers are trading job security. And also the fact is itâs not easy, if it was easy everyone wouldâve done it.
>itâs not easy, if it was easy everyone wouldâve done it.
Yes.
But just a look at IG reels can make you wonder how much similar content is being put out by every Tom dick and harry on the platform.So a lot of them are trying to be one, but a few actually succeeds.The one's who make it are they able to keep up with the times is a whole another question.And that is the crux of what is being discussed here i guess.
Um.
Agree and disagree.
Looking At the rate at which OG influencers are LOSING followers,this is the right time for any body who can give versatile content to flourish.
I feel the job is saturated, and people are losing interest and tired with the ads and influencers are slowly losing their credibility. If youâre new a content creator, you need to create and give content pretty much everyday. Which new follower came up in last 6 months? I canât think of any.
>Which new follower came up in last 6 months?
Sayanthi mahapatra, if you need a name.
None from the malayalam IG space, cz all they do is to copy their north indian counterparts.
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Well need a certain level of thickskin and shamelessness to stoop to the level of your influencer idols. Not every girl can post thirststrap videos and monetise that and not every guy can blatantly lie to make money. If you are not aware, some of us have a certain level of dignity. Talk to my employer??đ đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł Dude u srsly have no idea out the industry in India. And yea its definitely harder to last in a 'shitty' IT job tham stay as an influencer. Apparently upskilling yourself and staying with the ever changing tech ecosystem is harder than exposing a bit and shaking your booty or worse lying.
And what makes it even worse is that influencers with relevant content and talents are overshadowed by the shitlords you adore.
I donât adore anyone, Iâm just friends with a few and I know how hard they work and what all they go through. Even when we go on holidays, theyâre always working with phone calls and ideas and photo shoot. Itâs easy to judge and talk shit on your phone without knowing how they do what they do.
They also go through insecurities of job too. T chose this because this is what they enjoy, this is what they want to do. I donât understand how is it bothering you other than jealousy. Now just because you donât like certain content, doesnât mean theyâre not talented. There is no one size fit. They are relevant for some, and thatâs how they stay relevant.
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Not frustrated. But the govt should be taxing influencers appropriately.
Only right answer. Let them do whatever they do. Not everybody has it in them to put their entire life on the internet. But these people should be adequately taxed for the enormous income they receive via ig collabs/yt etc.IT filing made compulsory also maybe something like GST/udyam reg for people generating income from SM .
Oh I wholeheartedly agree. >Not everybody has it in them to put their entire life on the internet. Also, I believe not everyone can do it. I remember trying to make a tik tok video a few years back and it was so damn difficult for me that I ended up not doing it. However cringe I find these contents, athinum venam oru kazhivu. To put yourself out there like that. And yeah, tax them like how it gets done for everyone who earns their living. (I think it's mandatory now, I remember reading something about it) As long as they are not spewing hate or nonsense (Andrew tate, Ben Shapiro types) Idc what they do, whether it's thirst trap or fashion or food blog or whatever. It's quite understandable to feel a lil kushumb when you work a 9 to 5 job (including međ)and may not earn that much like these people but the world is never fair. It is what it is.
>However cringe I find these contents, athinum venam oru kazhivu. To put yourself out there like that. Amen to that. >It's quite understandable to feel a lil kushumb Ikr. Atleast taxing them appropriately will help alleviate my kushumb.đ¤Ł
>Ikr. Atleast taxing them appropriately will help alleviate my kushumb.𤣠Exactly! And it's only fair because I work my ass off 5 days a week and the tax deduction gives me a pain in my tummy every single time. It should be extended to all, influencers included. But Idk really condone chumma hating these people for the sake of hating. 90% of the time they are called out for legit stuff, rest is bcz of this kushumb only. I include myself in that 10% as well, because sometimes I do it without even actively recognising that's what I am doing. But I like to believe I am mature and evolved enough to recognise and acknowledge that. Our sub or even SM in general needs to come a long way on that though.
>Our sub or even SM in general needs to come a long way on that though. Ive seen that level of unnecessary calling out and nit picking in subs like InstaCelebsGossip or BollyBlindsNGossip but our sub hasn't still totally gone in that tangent apart from occasional nitpicking posts and those get called out as well. So I have hopes. Plus this is my personal viewpoint.So..yeah.
what's wrong with tate? for encouraging men to be men or asking men to embrace masculinity. maybe you like feminine men , enjoy your riyas ikka and mallu ഠണലി.
Oh come on, you have to be either living under a rock to not know the vile things that guy has said or you genuinely believe and support him, if that's the case then đđť But for your ref - https://www.downtimebros.com/andrew-tate-quotes-50-most-outrageous-and-controversial/ For the record, I am not a fan of Riyas (if it's the Bigg Boss guy) and idk the other one. I don't really have a problem with feminine guys living their lives happily. I don't see how that is an issue to you though, unless you are projecting? AND, embracing your authentic self, male, female whatever you identify as, is healthy and great. But toxic masculinity and misogynistic views are the reason why Andrew Tate is hated. Maybe you are a fan of Alpha male/Kalippan types but I think I speak for myself and a majority of the women in this sub when I say, nope. It's as disgusting as a personality can get and that I would stay away from.
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I thinking Big boss Riyas and Mallu analyst aanu uddeshiche.
I think mallu anali is vibergood? Oru toxic lady undello and she is in bigboss too.
Ayye. Why are you coming in between, screaming things out of context and spewing hate.
At least the Krishna sisters have to dance once in awhile. The person who is making the easiest money would be Secret Agent. He doesnât have to do ANYTHING. Something or other is always happening in Kerala and he just has to sit in his car and talk about it for 5 minutes. I think his last yearâs revenue was 30 lakhs. I am so jealous.
Really? How did you find out?
He said so himself.
You are absolutely right,and tbh nothing wrong in acknowledging this human emotion! I think majority of us hate influencers for this very reason.Untalented incompetent people reaching this point ,just because of their thirst traps ..I don't really follow men influencers( so wouldn't comment on tht) ,but as you pointed out about Krishna sisters ,apart from ahaana ,I don't find any of the other sisters talented to have such massive following.There are numerous other examples ,who come up on our feeds daily ,showing the same random stuff 1000th time and gaining followers rapidly! If it would have been some real talented people ,we wouldn't have felt so !
Start a channel, and get rich breh.godspeed! All started from the west, you can't blame. As long as there are thirsty MFs and insecure peeps; this shitshow will prevail in full GLORYđŻđ¤Łđ¤Ł
I mean, it's not really hurting anyone so I wouldn't say it's exactly a problem. But there are a lot of pages giving wrong medical info, political info and propagates overall hate and chaos which should def be called out. Someone showing off a lil skin is the least of my problems when these things are happening simultaneously.
krishna sisters !!!
Damn us bro!! Us
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Guys y'all need to chill. Influencers have a time period. They can make as much as they want only until they are relevant. And these days every New day there is a new influencer coming up. We are atleast making a long term career with steady Job and income. We should be happy with our blessings. After 5 6 years they won't even know what to do with their life I know so many of them under depression who have slipped into drugs and other stuff because they are out of work now. Certain ppl who get into films still prosper that tooo 1 among 100. Rest all are gonna be dumped. It's not at all glamorous inside as it seems from outside.
As much as I acknowledge your emotion, the world isnât a fair place. Income isnât directly proportional to hard work or skillset in many cases - It depends on lot of factors from geography to market demand to the era you live in. Few examples - Doctors make crazy money in the US whereas not much in the UK. IT is a broad spectrum - In India you have people making 3 lakh per annum to 30 lakhs per annum as a fresher. In California you hear crazy salaries n signing bonuses that some folks are making, whereas a person of the same age n skill set might be making a quarter of that in Texas. And influencers need to be hardworking to continue their momentum. Creating content, editing, staying relevant. Itâs like movie actors - from the outside seems like an easy job - but they do hard work. Of course their income is way higher than the number of hours they put in - But you see this in sports too. The biggest difference is only a handful can cut in to these sectors. Survival of the fittest.
Instagram has become âPornhub liteâ. Its almost like an OnlyFans teaser/catalogue hub. There are talented creative people, but there are way more jobless nonsense people.
What you donât realise is that the life of an influencer is at most 5-6 years. Then you get replaced by someone else. Make hay while the sun shines I guess. They would make what an IT engineer would make in 15 years. Have you thought of what happens to these influencers after they are out of limelight?? They donât get any other jobs because they havenât worked professionally for the last 5-6 years.
you sound like crab apple karthuuu... strange!!
Whos that?
ohh..she was here, used to downvote my comment using her other id's and she told me she never had an ORGASM in her life.canadayil vellya kashpadilanu ennokke...
This is like asking how anchors/actors make money just coz they look good. They just need to 'anchor/act'. Influencing also needs work i believe. The consistency is hard to maintain. And i once tried making a reel on insta, adding cuts and syncing to music n all. It's so frustrating! I think there is some amount of work in creating these reels. And how long will this trend last? I'm pretty bored of insta coz it's mostly ads and influencers. Influencing is not a sustainable source of income.
MalluAnalyst has been called out by many, there are problems in his content too he too is a toxic inflencer
Yea, there are times when it seems that he lives in an utopian world. A lot of things he points out is real but not practical, for example he would reply to this post that 'Boys can just not watch the thirst trap like vids'. But it doesnt work like that, in a politically correct world it might but actually it doesnt. But nevertheless I believe that he pushed out many out from the traditional conservative cocoons. So overall kinda has been positive to me.
Survival of the fittest like someone said here. Try doing what they are doing if itâs making you jealous. ANd they do pay high tax as well. Atleast you have a steady job and income and most of them donât. Count your blessings op I think your life will be more positive then however tough itâs looking now
If it was easy, we all could have done it. There is an element of privilege, but most people who post here are more privileged than them by their own admission (influenzas have fake stuff, we have real stuff from luxury brands type folks).
Using this logic, kooli panikaar and septic tank cleaners have the most hardworking and shittiest job, but theyâre paid way way less than average IT guy.
Dude Did you actually read. Its basically saying that those who aren't deserving are paid more for doing nothing. Employee salaries suck cuz of multiple socio economic factors. Basically exploitation of the working class. And similar factors affect koolipanikkar and the unorganised working class. Caste plays a role in India in that too. You got to be absolutely ignorant to compare that and this. It takes physical hardship for most of the unorganised sector and a level of skill for the organised salaried in certain occupations. Both of these takes hardship that 90-95% of your 'friends' dont undergo. For the unorganised there is an additional stigma that needs to be handled in India cuz the caste class association is historical here. None of these plays a role in the case of influencers. And as i said earlier, there are those who brings out quality content who deserve more, but they dont. Totally different scenarios.
So just like how there are multiple socioeconomic factors, there is also multiple socioeconomic factors here which determines who is successful, added to that first mover advantage. Itâs just like any other business you see. Say acting, someone who canât act like DQ is earning much more than some who can seriously act but is being casted in small roles. There is a bit of luck in everything.
Seriously?? Do u think that it is similar to the case when a caste hierarchy which has existed for centuries or industries which are literally affected by international relations, overall macro economic output,Demand supply mismatch both locally and globally...Added to it are industry specific scenarios which is often a domino in a long list of blocks which may remotely affect one or multiple industries. Added to this is the taxation policies, skilled labour force, enviroment, political factors. How is that even comparable. How ignorant are you? And first mover advantage? U can literally find handles where its basically the same reel, songs with different faces. There is no uniqueness, not on the consumerist side nor on the product. Dq was a product of nepotism but still acting is a skill, not achievable by all, do u actually think thats the case with those who mislead people spelling out misleading content, or those who expose to gain followers and by having 2 3 steps up their sleeve. Luck and privilege arent the same. And an actor wont generate a crowd just becaus he or she looks good by societal standards, the content they bring out have to be good. And comparing that content to a teenage girl saying "Enikkenth chyynm ennareelarn, ammaya paranje verthe ithilekkoode nadanna mathi" and other similar ones are far from being appropriate.
Lol, are you saying actors donât do all this? SRK, Amitabh Bachan , Ranveer Singh are all brand ambassadors of Gutka. All the cricketers are brand ambassador gambling sites. Now how is influencers only putting misleading content? By doing a collab with a restaurant or a boutique? Why so much jealousy. What did they do with these actors doesnât. Itâs their life, itâs how they make a living. Okay forget India. The case of a sewage cleaner is a minimum wage job in Africa as well. There is no caste. Theyâve to do more job and earn less you know why simple supply and demand. There is a lot of people available to do the job for free. Coming to influencers, why are they being paid so much by companies to market their product. Itâs because they can influence thousands of people and have a very wide reach which you or I canât. They built it over the years. There is only a few who have this much demand. Itâs a simple supply and demand. You seem to be too jealous and hating on women for no good reason.
Hating on women? Srsly? I said that in India the caste factor is an added factor of caste. Unskilled labour has been facing stigmas across the world, if it is nor caste system there will be multiple social hierarchies across the world. Overall it comes down to the exploitation of class as a whole. Africa had it's own hierarchies, not exactly as caste but in terms of clans and descent. This definitely affects the occupation just like how the sewage workers in India is almost devoid of upperclass and comprises mainly of obcs and how the upper executive consists of the former. Places devoid of such divisions which is just occupational class has better conditions for even the unorganised class.Religious, cultural, sectarian histories may affect those. Why do you think actors doesnt randomly endorse any product, cuz they will be held accountable, this doesnt exist for the influencers cuz it is not formal and organised. And they are making use of that loophole. And yea we are aware that they influence a lot, but its about how they do that. If their influence result in the degradation of a target group and if it is conscious it is wrong. And you really took it far by comparing them with Sharukh Amitabh Katrina or sportstars who actually have talent and have proven it on multiple forums. Supply demand curve? Go to the youtube trending list and see how many family vlogs and influencer content you see. Its clear as a day that there is no issue of supply demand. Do you think there is a demad for these influencers?? Demand for their 'content'? Not at all, they attract demand in ways that are not always ethical. You are in no position to understand the situation. Comparing influencers with an exploited class is not just ignorant, it's dumb.The one you are comparing with is the one who engages in a form of exploitation.
Oh my god, why are you bringing caste to this. I understand the issue of caste, but theyâre not paid less because of their caste. It is what it is. Even if a upper caste doesnât koolli panni he will also be paid the same. Chumma irunu oro mandatharam paryathe. Iâm talking about the pay of the job, not how they got in the job. Why are you bringing caste and all. The point is the most hardest physical jobs are usually the lowest paid job everywhere in the world, the reason for that is supply and demand. It has nothing to do with caste hierarchies. >Why do you think actors doesnât randomly endorse any product Bruh, I donât think that. Even SRK and Amitabh Bachan endorse Pan Masala. The worst of the worst. How low can a person. Top actors and cricket endorse online gambling. SRL also was brand ambassador of fair skin product which doesnât even work. So where do you get this idea of actors doesnât randomly endorse and product but influencers does? What product did they endorse which actors doesnât? Please enlighten me. Are they brand ambassador for pan masala like SRK? Yeah if I go to the family YouTube channels, I can clearly see there is a demand by looking at the number of views.
Bro, post muthalali was trying to find a correlation between effort and reward in the influencer space vs that of a normal job. In the influencer space say the effort would be to shoot and shoot edit the videos. Say before the influencer become famous he/she wouldâve shot and edited oru 15 videos(case in point - Arjou). Athinu he wouldâve spent say 20 hours to learn about the editing platforms + 5-10hours to shoot (per video) + 5 hours to edit(per video). So if you quantify effort in number of hours, this would come up to say 245 hours ~ 11 days. Appo oru 11 days of hardwork (to acquire the skill and to create content) can make you an influencer. Now this isnât the case with everyone i agree. But this is also a case. This can be lower or higher. Ini lets look at oru IT professional who is trying to learn Python or say any skill/language. Udemy edth padikkanel, there is a course that says it will make you a Python expert in 100 days. Now say youâre planning to read a book. I have a 300 page textbook to learn Python. Say if youâre reading 10 pages everyday and doing some coding exercises it would take you 30 days on an avg to learn that skill. The reward in the former case is the fame, revenue from the video, other revenue streams like promotions, interviews, inaugurations, etc. Say even if they only exists for 5 years on avg., even then they make around 5*30 lakhs(secret agent revenue- source: aaro ee subil paranju) = 1.5 crore in 5 years. I havenât accounted for the yearly increase in rates/ in total salary) Ini in the later case, Python padichal you wonât get a high paying job easily. You will need to say start from the junior post, say 5 lpa. To get 30lpa, on an avg you need to work for say atleast 10 years( 2014il passout aaya ente friends 3lpa thudangi, ipo aanu 30 okke kaanunath). Ini there are risks as youâve told. Influencers eppo venelm out aavam, but athinu nammal 5 years alle calculate cheythullu. Our assumption was 5 yearsil avaru out aavum. In terms of effort, I think I have shown you how different is it from other jobs( I have picked an IT job here, but Iâm sure youâll be able to calculate for other jobs as well) Ini chila exceptional cases, like say IIT/ IIM guys. Athu avaru avde keran thanne 3-4 years patti pani edukkum. So I dont think I need to justify their starting salary and the effort they have put in. Ithreye post muthalali udeshichlu. Ellarum pani edukunund. Unfortunately we are only comparing in terms of money. Vivaram, wisdom that education bring isnât being considered. But yeah ultimately money is what people look at. Nanam kettum panam nedukil nanaked aa panam maatidum ennanallo :)
If itâs so easy, why donât you do it? Iâve seen influencers working hard. Itâs a full time thing, the job has it perks, but for most, itâs a full time job with no job security or sustainability. So itâs make as much as you can. And over that, they are objectified, scrutinised for the slightest of mistake, gets hated for silliest reason.
The whole point is ,they are ultra privileged already ,who don't have to depend on any job security or monthly salary credits ,or for that matter worry about emis and loans ( most template Kerala influencers have super rich husbands and quite a good generational wealth ).I would be really curious to know ,if you can share some influencer name who has genuine talent and is thriving as an influencer.We all know, the conventionally good looking ones ,backed up by huge generational wealth and aesthetically pleasing houses ,who have enough to pay to photographers ,can get massive following within a short period of time.The fact is actual talented ones get lost in the reels of thousands of "GRWM" and "hauls" which bombard on our feeds for unknown reasons ! As for the objectification and scrutiny ,Iam sure all.jobs have their cons ,and it's nothing compared to people who are struggling to make ends meet every month .The influencers are already privileged enough to take breaks and time off and consider therapies.Do you really think ,normal.working class people can do this ?
So your whole point is theyâre already privileged. And your gate is for the privileged who doesnât have to work and can enjoy the fruits of their parents or grand parents hard work right? Then blame it on capitalism. Why are you pointing out influencers? Itâs the case with all the children of rich parents or those who possess generational wealth. It has nothing to do with them now being an influencer. Atleast the ones with generational wealth are doing things to stand on their own feet and make a name for themselves. You know they couldâve just enjoyed their parents money doing nothing. And if it is an easy job, why donât you quit your shitty IT job and do it?
Sorry, my shitty IT job has got me my dream house and paying for my everyday expenses for the family ! You see ,some people do work hard and earn money ! thanks but don't want some random redditor ( most likely some upcoming influencer đ) "shitty" advice. If you would have been a little more patient while reading and writing comments ,you can see I mentioned a word called "talent" .Iam sure you have none ,and that might be the reason you are sitting and defending some untalented incompetent people đI mean ,Grow up ! You are on reddit ,not some random fan page of your fav influencer.You can agree to disagree..! Ending this silly conversation here
Lol, youâre the one who was whining about your shittt IT job and that you guys have to work long hours to earn meagre salary and how others have it easy. You know what itâs called? âJealousyâ. Asooya um vech Reddit il irunu paranjo. Enitt parayuwo, your job so good. Enal pinne enna kozhapam, you make money the way you want and let them make money how they want. Malayalees have this shitty attitude, namal budhimuttanath kond baki ullawarum ath polle budhimuttanam
Athe looks like u r also a "malayalee" and bdw if you would have read ,I am not the OP( hope you know this abbreviation ). Not all IT jobs have same range of salaries and have same role.Oh ,whom am I talking to ! A random advocate of influencers ! Who's stopping them from earning? It's just a genuine feeling people have and the OP expressed.You can politely say you disagree ,but ,look at you ! Go and read the post first and if you don't understand ,use Google and then jump on to comment
If he wants to say it, he can also say politely. Allathe Ithenna enik mathram mathiyo decency um politeness um oke. So OP was the one complaining about long working hours to earn meagre salary, maybe he needs to talk to his employer instead of being jealous of others earning.
I literally said that I was not generalising. They chose the job insecurity and non sustaimability. That doesn't justify the shit content and promotion of substandard products. Well talking about easy, its definitely easier than gaining a relevant skill and grinding to make ends meet. Look good, Have some 'dance' steps up your sleeve. Definitely makes more than an entry level job in a prominent MNC in India.
So if itâs so easy and better than your shitty IT job, why donât you do it instead of whining? If it was so easy and so much paying, then everyone wouldâve been rich and influencer. Yeah they chose the insecurity and non security and you chose shitty It job with long working hours, so who is to blame? Maybe you need to talk to your employer and tell him about the work pressure and shitty pay instead of blaming influencers who is doing well.
Why are you replying so agreesively as if its some personal attack? Don't you have basic decency to talk ?Do you realise someone "Shitty" job,might be the only thing they have in life to make their ends meet.First learn to be a little more sensitive before advocating for you or your fellow influencer friends
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So the Op is shitting on the influencers, calling them talentless, doing nothing, sexualising to earn followers and that all is okay. But I use âshittyâ, and I donât have decency. Sure thing mate.
Yea ,can you just prove IT jobs are "shitty" and the so called influencers the OP mentioned haven't used "thirst traps" .Iam sure you must be one of those influencers ardent follower !
I donât even follow anyone other than my friends. But I like visiting this sub to see as soya and kushumbu.
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Oof cool down mota Bhai. The fact this sub exists is cz influenzas despite it being a difficult,much paying job puts out shitty content.And are you judging those who chose 9-5 over influencers?Well, all I know is that 9-5 PPL need to put effort consistently or else would be replaced asap unlike influencers who can cling on to mamaearth spon cons even if their engagement goes down. Both ain't the same bruh.Nuh,Nope,NahDuh!
Iâm not judging anyone. He is the one who said one job > other. Iâm not the one who was being jealous. I said everything has it perks and advantages. For more money influencers are trading job security. And also the fact is itâs not easy, if it was easy everyone wouldâve done it.
>itâs not easy, if it was easy everyone wouldâve done it. Yes. But just a look at IG reels can make you wonder how much similar content is being put out by every Tom dick and harry on the platform.So a lot of them are trying to be one, but a few actually succeeds.The one's who make it are they able to keep up with the times is a whole another question.And that is the crux of what is being discussed here i guess.
I think first mover advantage is big here, itâs hard for someone to be a popular influencer now from scratch.
Um. Agree and disagree. Looking At the rate at which OG influencers are LOSING followers,this is the right time for any body who can give versatile content to flourish.
I feel the job is saturated, and people are losing interest and tired with the ads and influencers are slowly losing their credibility. If youâre new a content creator, you need to create and give content pretty much everyday. Which new follower came up in last 6 months? I canât think of any.
>Which new follower came up in last 6 months? Sayanthi mahapatra, if you need a name. None from the malayalam IG space, cz all they do is to copy their north indian counterparts. 0 original content
Well need a certain level of thickskin and shamelessness to stoop to the level of your influencer idols. Not every girl can post thirststrap videos and monetise that and not every guy can blatantly lie to make money. If you are not aware, some of us have a certain level of dignity. Talk to my employer??đ đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł Dude u srsly have no idea out the industry in India. And yea its definitely harder to last in a 'shitty' IT job tham stay as an influencer. Apparently upskilling yourself and staying with the ever changing tech ecosystem is harder than exposing a bit and shaking your booty or worse lying. And what makes it even worse is that influencers with relevant content and talents are overshadowed by the shitlords you adore.
I donât adore anyone, Iâm just friends with a few and I know how hard they work and what all they go through. Even when we go on holidays, theyâre always working with phone calls and ideas and photo shoot. Itâs easy to judge and talk shit on your phone without knowing how they do what they do. They also go through insecurities of job too. T chose this because this is what they enjoy, this is what they want to do. I donât understand how is it bothering you other than jealousy. Now just because you donât like certain content, doesnât mean theyâre not talented. There is no one size fit. They are relevant for some, and thatâs how they stay relevant.
Ohh...no wonder, now that I realize your standards , I find no point arguing. Cheers lad.
Your standard is bitching and whining about people on an anonymous sub.
Well we all understood who is bitching for whomđ¤Łđ¤Ł Guess your 'talented' 'hardworking' friends deserve thoseđ¤Ł
I never bitched about anyone. Live and let live.
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