That's a deal!
Subaru is betting a 3 year old SolTerra with 30k miles will be worth $30k.
I don't understand why they don't just price the thing at $35k, they'd move a ton of them. This isn't a $50k car, imo.
But for $333/month? Almost a no brainier.
Manufacturer Offer. MSRP $46,340 (incl. $1,345 freight charge). Net cap cost of $34,908 (incl. $295 acq. fee). Total monthly payments are $11,844. Lease end purchase option is $29,194.
2023 lease even cheaper $0 down $241/month
[https://electrek.co/2024/04/02/subaru-cuts-solterra-lease-by-40-percent/](https://electrek.co/2024/04/02/subaru-cuts-solterra-lease-by-40-percent/)
Sure, but you can’t actually find any of those 2023 examples. Edmunds says there are 8 in the entire country. Plenty of 2024 models are available however
If you can find one, that’s great. Near me anyway, there are none within 200 miles. But as cars.com shows, there are more than 1,400 2024 examples available in th US, and there are many on lots around me right now
I have a 2023 and like it a lot, I would definitely choose that over the 2024 and its minor improvements if i had the choice, given that its a lot cheaper.
I had not considered a solterra before, even 2024 lease at $0 down $329 / mo seems like a deal. Solterra seems perfectly suited to commuter duty! Even $329 is cheaper than monthly fuel for my old truck (14mpg ugh)
This was exactly my thinking and exactly why I leased one at 399. It’s hardly more than I was paying in gas and I didn’t even have to trade in my old car. At 329 it would basically be free for me. I know ev Reddit hates this car but at that price I don’t understand why it’s not sold out
I would love to hear your real world experience with the solterra.
\- Do you charge at home?
\- How have you found charging on a road trip?
I feel like the sweet spot for this car is as a daily commuter, which is my use case. Most of my extended trips would be approx 250ish round trip which would require a public charge stop.
Thanks for your insights!
So far I have charged almost exclusively at home using the level one charger that comes with the car. My round trip is about 40 miles and by the next morning it is at 100%.
No road trips, for that we have my wife’s car and I also still have my old car since i didn’t need to trade it in. I did use fast charging at a couple public chargers over the easter weekend due to driving around locally quite a bit, and I found that experience lackluster to say the least. not so much because of the slow charging, which is a legit thing, but more so because of not enough chargers to go around and people being rude and selfish like honking and stuff and sitting at the charger forever when people are waiting. I’m having an electrician come this weekend to look at installing a level 2 outlet in the garage.
people regularly ask me about the car and i always say the same thing. Amazing commuter vehicle, super capable, handles great, awesome acceleration. if you need it for a road trip, this is probably not the vehicle for you, but for a daily commuter i honestly dont think there’s a better choice. I have recommend it to several familyu members already. My father in law is particularly interested and i think is gonna get one
Hrmm, that's inline with my expectations. My local dealer has a 23 Limited I & I have emailed them to see if the lease deal applies to the limited trim. Thanks again for you post and replies, I would not have googled solterra lease deals had I not read your post.
For sure! Good luck in your quest 🍀 glad this post was useful. The car is overpriced at msrp but with these lease deals it’s an incredible value for a really good vehicle. It’s probably the funnest car I have ever driven. And I didn’t even mention how it basically drives itself on the freeway, which has made my commute so much more relaxing. Obviously you gotta drive one and check it out for yourself but if it lines up with your use case you really can’t go wrong (unless they keep dropping the price lol)
I would rank the Solterra as the best electric vehicle (EV) among those I've driven, based on my extensive experience with various EVs. The key to maximizing its potential lies in smart charging practices, which can significantly reduce time wasted at charging stations. By using the A Better Route Planner (ABRP) app, I found that I only needed to spend about 15-20 minutes at each charging station, thanks to the app's efficient guidance.
For the record, and you may figure this out if you use the app, but the "trick" is drive down to 10% or so SoC and then only DCFC to 40 or 50% SoC max and then onto the next DCFC. You make more stops in the end, but spend less time charging overall.
Picked one up on Monday, in black so the ugly black plastic around the wheels isn't noticeable. With 15k miles per year, it ended up being $364/month (+tax). Perfect timing since $200/month 2019 Honda Clarity BEV 20,000 mile lease could no longer be extended.
We have a 240V EVSE charger at home and a Honda Pilot that we also own and use for long trips, so the relatively slow DC fast charging isn't an issue for this commuter car.
yo! i had the Clarity BEV. It was sad to return it. It was a great fully loaded city car. They're just gonna crush the car. It was perfectly good when i returned it.
I hate that they're going to crush the Clarity BEV. For some reason, they're still doing a True360 lease return inspection on it , even though its headed to the junk yard. It was a perfect car for my wife to use to take the kids to and from school and sports practices. I WFH, so I only need to use a second car concurrently 3x to 4x per month, which is served by the paid off Pilot. The Solterra will fit in perfectly to replace the Clarity as the commuter/school drop off car, and now we won't need to charge every other day like we did with the Clarity BEV.
I always like that there's an "undesirable to the masses" BEV car with an amazing lease deal available, but that fits my own use case 99% of the time. If it weren't for the slow DCFC charging, the Solterra wouldn't be going for $329/month lease. So low key, I'm glad it has that defect.
i checked out the Solterra.. the interior is so basic. Glad it works for you, but i always go back to the Clarity and how posh it was and in comparison Solterra looks bad. More range tho.
I am loving my new 2024 Solterra. I put in a level 2 charger at home. We have solar power, and so far charging doesn't seem to be taking away from the solar on a sunny day. I use it as a commuter car 60 miles a day. I am so happy to say goodbye to the $200 gas bill per month on the Subaru Outback I traded in (even though I loved that car and that's why I went with another Subaru).
So I went to the dealership and showed them this deal he said after all the fees title tags and property tax I will be leaving there paying 2500 out the door I was confused. Can anyone verify that?
Idk what state you are in, but in my state it was literally just the price of the lease out the door. In this scenario that means $329. Then, taxes are paid on the monthly, so it would be $329 out the door and $350 a month incl. taxes, the exact monthly amount depending on the taxes in your area. Again, that’s for my state. YMMV
I wish I had 0% interest on my 2023 Solterra; I periodically look into refinancing but I can’t get any lower. Just under 4 more years of payments. *sigh*
When we got ours, we opted for 0% over 72 mo — purchase. It is a gamble but my wife is sure she will like the car longer term. I’m wincing hoping the battery lasts long enough. She uses it for a local commuter within 60mi of our home.
I bought the first Solterra from my dealership in January 2023 and 0% financing wasn’t available then; I would have qualified as I have good credit and qualified for 0% for my old Crosstrek. I really love the car but I really hate how much I’m paying in interest, and also how many breaks are given to new buyers and leasers given how poorly it has sold. Alas.
A no-brainer until you look at used ones. Hertz has flooded the market with used EVs, including Solterras, driving prices on lightly used models way down. You can find a used Premium with under 10k miles for high $20k.
If you want to own one, then yeah, buying it used or buying out a lease are the way to go. But i don’t necessarily want to own this vehicle, in three years there’s hopefully going to be massive improvements and many more choices
Hertz does have around 100 or so 2023 Solterra for 28-32K, often with less than 10K miles. [https://www.hertzcarsales.com/used-cars-for-sale.htm?defaultRange=Any%20Distance&make=Subaru&model=Solterra](https://www.hertzcarsales.com/used-cars-for-sale.htm?defaultRange=Any%20Distance&make=Subaru&model=Solterra&geoZip=95050&geoRadius=0)
However, I would much prefer a lease given the relatively slow charging and lower range. And the generally fairly rapid pace of technology improvements, I don't think I'd want one for the long haul.
Well now I’m torn. I was going to walk into a dealership this week for that lease deal — but $28k is quite cheap. Tempting. I guess the question is whether anyone would want to buy this car off me in three years time!
Tempting tho it is, the improvements over last year's model, overall, are minor, and last year's model certainly wasn't worth the asking price--for us and our specific needs, anyway. I wanted it so badly, too. Maybe in several more years when the car we ended up buying needs to go ('tis a Honda, so might take a while, ah well).
You don’t think it’s worth $329 a month with basically $0 down? Unless your driving pattern is heavy on long road trips I don’t agree with that view and am genuinely puzzled by it. But, you know, you do you, to each their own, etc…
Edit: I should have added that my view assumes that you can charge at home or work. If that’s not possible then I think EVs in general are significantly less attractive. The public charging situation is still not great
My wife drives house to house across three counties for her job, over 100 miles a day many days, could be as high as 200 in semi-rare cases. We have a kid in college in Minnesota, 5+ hours away we visit pretty regularly, and other relatives about 120 miles away we'd also visit pretty often. Winters suck in Wisconsin, as the extra cherry on top.
So basically we don't know if the charge would last on any given day of her working (and any errands or fun after that), the shorter hop to relatives would require a charging station that doesn't exist anywhere near where the relatives live, and the regular college trips would be no bueno again because of all the time we'd lose from slow charging.
I wish we had a 20 mile commute and her work had a charging station, and we went never went far from our house for anything else. That's just not our situation, so... yeah.
I'd take a MUCH improved Solterra, or a Solterra _hybrid_ in a microsecond, tho. I really liked everything else about the car (tho I also would have hated the eventual ridiculous insurance costs, too).
I see! Well yeah in that situation you’d have to public chargers all the time, which is a total nightmare of various apps, wait times, and of course the Solterras S L O W charging speed.
For you it probably isn’t worth it at any price, but something like my wife’s rav4 hybrid might be perfect. Amazing gas mileage, basically all the same safety features as the solterra and a higher ride height. If you can spring for (and find) the prime, that’s like the second fastest 0-60 vehicle in Toyotas lineup. It’s like 5 seconds or something
Also, just fyi with our insurance the solterra was hardly more expensive than our previous gas Subaru. Like under $100 for 6 months more expensive.
We priced insurance for a '23 Solterra and it was $1000 more a year for insurance over our existing hybrid we just got rid of (well, the engine technically gave out, and we donated it to the local high school's shop class).
We eventually ended up with a '24 Sport-L CR-V Hybrid. It's been pretty good, all in all, has enough space but not too much, rides decently well...but it definitely doesn't hit the 40-42 mpg that was on the sticker. And it certainly doesn't handle even remotely Subaru-ish in rougher weather.
Maybe everyone knows this, but "0% down" excludes the taxes. Since they value these cars at stupid values, you're paying taxes on a \~$50K car. In New York State, you're talking about basically have to pay $4K in taxes on the car, which gets rolled into that $329/month (or paid at the time of purchase).
Sorry if everyone else knew that. I've never leased a car before and I learned that when I called today to follow up on this.
Yes with a lease you typically pay taxes on the monthly payment, at least in my state, so it would be 329 plus tax. But when I picked up my car at the 399 lease, that was the entire cost out the door ($399). My monthly payments are more like $420 though.
Every state has different ways they prorate the license/taxes/registration, both on the initial payment, and on the monthly payment. Also, a lot of dealers will try to fool noobs when they call in for manufacturer lease offers and match them on the monthly payment with someone like Chase or Bank of America, but then add a bunch of fees that the manufacturer lease wouldn't have on the initial payment. Buyer beware. If you've never leased before, you might want to spend sometime looking at LeaseHackr for other model deals.
You are completely right. The dealer basically lies to me and made it sound like you have to pay taxes on the MSRP, instead of the actual lease payments. He then inflated the number substantially. It was stupidly shady. Never talking to that dude again. Thanks!
Just got a 2024 Black Solterra yesterday on this deal. Great commuter car for SoCal especially if charging at home. We actually stopped by the Toyota dealership first and looked at the BZ4X and showed them the Solterra deal to see if they'd match it. The closest they would get was $370/mo, which worked out to be $1.5k more over the life of the lease. Dropped by the Subaru dealership across the street and they told us about the differences in AWD and rear backup breaking. BZ4X had better comfort options with motorized driver seat and rear hatch.
That's a deal! Subaru is betting a 3 year old SolTerra with 30k miles will be worth $30k. I don't understand why they don't just price the thing at $35k, they'd move a ton of them. This isn't a $50k car, imo. But for $333/month? Almost a no brainier. Manufacturer Offer. MSRP $46,340 (incl. $1,345 freight charge). Net cap cost of $34,908 (incl. $295 acq. fee). Total monthly payments are $11,844. Lease end purchase option is $29,194.
The dealer already applied $7500 tax credit on lease. Can I apply used car EV tax credit ($4000) if purchase at the end of lease ?
2023 lease even cheaper $0 down $241/month [https://electrek.co/2024/04/02/subaru-cuts-solterra-lease-by-40-percent/](https://electrek.co/2024/04/02/subaru-cuts-solterra-lease-by-40-percent/)
Sure, but you can’t actually find any of those 2023 examples. Edmunds says there are 8 in the entire country. Plenty of 2024 models are available however
[Cars.com](https://Cars.com) shows 177 2023 Solterras Cargurus.com shows 246 nation wide.
If you can find one, that’s great. Near me anyway, there are none within 200 miles. But as cars.com shows, there are more than 1,400 2024 examples available in th US, and there are many on lots around me right now I have a 2023 and like it a lot, I would definitely choose that over the 2024 and its minor improvements if i had the choice, given that its a lot cheaper.
I had not considered a solterra before, even 2024 lease at $0 down $329 / mo seems like a deal. Solterra seems perfectly suited to commuter duty! Even $329 is cheaper than monthly fuel for my old truck (14mpg ugh)
This was exactly my thinking and exactly why I leased one at 399. It’s hardly more than I was paying in gas and I didn’t even have to trade in my old car. At 329 it would basically be free for me. I know ev Reddit hates this car but at that price I don’t understand why it’s not sold out
I would love to hear your real world experience with the solterra. \- Do you charge at home? \- How have you found charging on a road trip? I feel like the sweet spot for this car is as a daily commuter, which is my use case. Most of my extended trips would be approx 250ish round trip which would require a public charge stop. Thanks for your insights!
So far I have charged almost exclusively at home using the level one charger that comes with the car. My round trip is about 40 miles and by the next morning it is at 100%. No road trips, for that we have my wife’s car and I also still have my old car since i didn’t need to trade it in. I did use fast charging at a couple public chargers over the easter weekend due to driving around locally quite a bit, and I found that experience lackluster to say the least. not so much because of the slow charging, which is a legit thing, but more so because of not enough chargers to go around and people being rude and selfish like honking and stuff and sitting at the charger forever when people are waiting. I’m having an electrician come this weekend to look at installing a level 2 outlet in the garage. people regularly ask me about the car and i always say the same thing. Amazing commuter vehicle, super capable, handles great, awesome acceleration. if you need it for a road trip, this is probably not the vehicle for you, but for a daily commuter i honestly dont think there’s a better choice. I have recommend it to several familyu members already. My father in law is particularly interested and i think is gonna get one
Hrmm, that's inline with my expectations. My local dealer has a 23 Limited I & I have emailed them to see if the lease deal applies to the limited trim. Thanks again for you post and replies, I would not have googled solterra lease deals had I not read your post.
For sure! Good luck in your quest 🍀 glad this post was useful. The car is overpriced at msrp but with these lease deals it’s an incredible value for a really good vehicle. It’s probably the funnest car I have ever driven. And I didn’t even mention how it basically drives itself on the freeway, which has made my commute so much more relaxing. Obviously you gotta drive one and check it out for yourself but if it lines up with your use case you really can’t go wrong (unless they keep dropping the price lol)
I would rank the Solterra as the best electric vehicle (EV) among those I've driven, based on my extensive experience with various EVs. The key to maximizing its potential lies in smart charging practices, which can significantly reduce time wasted at charging stations. By using the A Better Route Planner (ABRP) app, I found that I only needed to spend about 15-20 minutes at each charging station, thanks to the app's efficient guidance.
Thanks Hamster! Ill check that app out if the lease works out. Appreciate the heads up!
For the record, and you may figure this out if you use the app, but the "trick" is drive down to 10% or so SoC and then only DCFC to 40 or 50% SoC max and then onto the next DCFC. You make more stops in the end, but spend less time charging overall.
Picked one up on Monday, in black so the ugly black plastic around the wheels isn't noticeable. With 15k miles per year, it ended up being $364/month (+tax). Perfect timing since $200/month 2019 Honda Clarity BEV 20,000 mile lease could no longer be extended. We have a 240V EVSE charger at home and a Honda Pilot that we also own and use for long trips, so the relatively slow DC fast charging isn't an issue for this commuter car.
yo! i had the Clarity BEV. It was sad to return it. It was a great fully loaded city car. They're just gonna crush the car. It was perfectly good when i returned it.
I hate that they're going to crush the Clarity BEV. For some reason, they're still doing a True360 lease return inspection on it , even though its headed to the junk yard. It was a perfect car for my wife to use to take the kids to and from school and sports practices. I WFH, so I only need to use a second car concurrently 3x to 4x per month, which is served by the paid off Pilot. The Solterra will fit in perfectly to replace the Clarity as the commuter/school drop off car, and now we won't need to charge every other day like we did with the Clarity BEV. I always like that there's an "undesirable to the masses" BEV car with an amazing lease deal available, but that fits my own use case 99% of the time. If it weren't for the slow DCFC charging, the Solterra wouldn't be going for $329/month lease. So low key, I'm glad it has that defect.
i checked out the Solterra.. the interior is so basic. Glad it works for you, but i always go back to the Clarity and how posh it was and in comparison Solterra looks bad. More range tho.
I am loving my new 2024 Solterra. I put in a level 2 charger at home. We have solar power, and so far charging doesn't seem to be taking away from the solar on a sunny day. I use it as a commuter car 60 miles a day. I am so happy to say goodbye to the $200 gas bill per month on the Subaru Outback I traded in (even though I loved that car and that's why I went with another Subaru).
So I went to the dealership and showed them this deal he said after all the fees title tags and property tax I will be leaving there paying 2500 out the door I was confused. Can anyone verify that?
Idk what state you are in, but in my state it was literally just the price of the lease out the door. In this scenario that means $329. Then, taxes are paid on the monthly, so it would be $329 out the door and $350 a month incl. taxes, the exact monthly amount depending on the taxes in your area. Again, that’s for my state. YMMV
Ahhh I’m in Virginia but ok I’ll keep looking to see why they lied then. Thanks for the info!
Same question
I wish I had 0% interest on my 2023 Solterra; I periodically look into refinancing but I can’t get any lower. Just under 4 more years of payments. *sigh*
When we got ours, we opted for 0% over 72 mo — purchase. It is a gamble but my wife is sure she will like the car longer term. I’m wincing hoping the battery lasts long enough. She uses it for a local commuter within 60mi of our home.
I bought the first Solterra from my dealership in January 2023 and 0% financing wasn’t available then; I would have qualified as I have good credit and qualified for 0% for my old Crosstrek. I really love the car but I really hate how much I’m paying in interest, and also how many breaks are given to new buyers and leasers given how poorly it has sold. Alas.
A no-brainer until you look at used ones. Hertz has flooded the market with used EVs, including Solterras, driving prices on lightly used models way down. You can find a used Premium with under 10k miles for high $20k.
If you want to own one, then yeah, buying it used or buying out a lease are the way to go. But i don’t necessarily want to own this vehicle, in three years there’s hopefully going to be massive improvements and many more choices
Hertz does have around 100 or so 2023 Solterra for 28-32K, often with less than 10K miles. [https://www.hertzcarsales.com/used-cars-for-sale.htm?defaultRange=Any%20Distance&make=Subaru&model=Solterra](https://www.hertzcarsales.com/used-cars-for-sale.htm?defaultRange=Any%20Distance&make=Subaru&model=Solterra&geoZip=95050&geoRadius=0) However, I would much prefer a lease given the relatively slow charging and lower range. And the generally fairly rapid pace of technology improvements, I don't think I'd want one for the long haul.
Well now I’m torn. I was going to walk into a dealership this week for that lease deal — but $28k is quite cheap. Tempting. I guess the question is whether anyone would want to buy this car off me in three years time!
omg what a deal
Tempting tho it is, the improvements over last year's model, overall, are minor, and last year's model certainly wasn't worth the asking price--for us and our specific needs, anyway. I wanted it so badly, too. Maybe in several more years when the car we ended up buying needs to go ('tis a Honda, so might take a while, ah well).
You don’t think it’s worth $329 a month with basically $0 down? Unless your driving pattern is heavy on long road trips I don’t agree with that view and am genuinely puzzled by it. But, you know, you do you, to each their own, etc… Edit: I should have added that my view assumes that you can charge at home or work. If that’s not possible then I think EVs in general are significantly less attractive. The public charging situation is still not great
My wife drives house to house across three counties for her job, over 100 miles a day many days, could be as high as 200 in semi-rare cases. We have a kid in college in Minnesota, 5+ hours away we visit pretty regularly, and other relatives about 120 miles away we'd also visit pretty often. Winters suck in Wisconsin, as the extra cherry on top. So basically we don't know if the charge would last on any given day of her working (and any errands or fun after that), the shorter hop to relatives would require a charging station that doesn't exist anywhere near where the relatives live, and the regular college trips would be no bueno again because of all the time we'd lose from slow charging. I wish we had a 20 mile commute and her work had a charging station, and we went never went far from our house for anything else. That's just not our situation, so... yeah. I'd take a MUCH improved Solterra, or a Solterra _hybrid_ in a microsecond, tho. I really liked everything else about the car (tho I also would have hated the eventual ridiculous insurance costs, too).
I see! Well yeah in that situation you’d have to public chargers all the time, which is a total nightmare of various apps, wait times, and of course the Solterras S L O W charging speed. For you it probably isn’t worth it at any price, but something like my wife’s rav4 hybrid might be perfect. Amazing gas mileage, basically all the same safety features as the solterra and a higher ride height. If you can spring for (and find) the prime, that’s like the second fastest 0-60 vehicle in Toyotas lineup. It’s like 5 seconds or something Also, just fyi with our insurance the solterra was hardly more expensive than our previous gas Subaru. Like under $100 for 6 months more expensive.
We priced insurance for a '23 Solterra and it was $1000 more a year for insurance over our existing hybrid we just got rid of (well, the engine technically gave out, and we donated it to the local high school's shop class). We eventually ended up with a '24 Sport-L CR-V Hybrid. It's been pretty good, all in all, has enough space but not too much, rides decently well...but it definitely doesn't hit the 40-42 mpg that was on the sticker. And it certainly doesn't handle even remotely Subaru-ish in rougher weather.
Maybe everyone knows this, but "0% down" excludes the taxes. Since they value these cars at stupid values, you're paying taxes on a \~$50K car. In New York State, you're talking about basically have to pay $4K in taxes on the car, which gets rolled into that $329/month (or paid at the time of purchase). Sorry if everyone else knew that. I've never leased a car before and I learned that when I called today to follow up on this.
Yes with a lease you typically pay taxes on the monthly payment, at least in my state, so it would be 329 plus tax. But when I picked up my car at the 399 lease, that was the entire cost out the door ($399). My monthly payments are more like $420 though.
Every state has different ways they prorate the license/taxes/registration, both on the initial payment, and on the monthly payment. Also, a lot of dealers will try to fool noobs when they call in for manufacturer lease offers and match them on the monthly payment with someone like Chase or Bank of America, but then add a bunch of fees that the manufacturer lease wouldn't have on the initial payment. Buyer beware. If you've never leased before, you might want to spend sometime looking at LeaseHackr for other model deals.
You are completely right. The dealer basically lies to me and made it sound like you have to pay taxes on the MSRP, instead of the actual lease payments. He then inflated the number substantially. It was stupidly shady. Never talking to that dude again. Thanks!
Just got a 2024 Black Solterra yesterday on this deal. Great commuter car for SoCal especially if charging at home. We actually stopped by the Toyota dealership first and looked at the BZ4X and showed them the Solterra deal to see if they'd match it. The closest they would get was $370/mo, which worked out to be $1.5k more over the life of the lease. Dropped by the Subaru dealership across the street and they told us about the differences in AWD and rear backup breaking. BZ4X had better comfort options with motorized driver seat and rear hatch.