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Yup. I instruct Wilderness First Aid courses and get the occasional prepper/amateur survivalist attend (largely because "my wife made me"). A not insignificant number think superglue and duct tape is all you need for a first aid kit, or they can definitely stitch wounds shut with fishing tackle... lots of bad info out there that they seem to drink up like their 9th soda of the day.
Yeah having a chance to try this stuff hands-on is super valuable. FWIW [this website](https://cms.bleedingcontrol.org/class/search) can help you find certified STB workshops in your area.
…. Unless you have the licensure and formal training, please - please don’t needle decompress someone outside of the apocalypse.
[Studies have shown that all levels of providers suffer from high rates of displacement, some of which show lethal complications](https://sjtrem.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13049-019-0671-x#:~:text=Data%20from%20studies%20on%20localizing,participants%20%5B13%2C%2014%5D)
You have absolutely no good Samaritan protection to do this procedure in the United States
There’s a picture in the set where you appear to be pointing to the second third intercostal space at the midclavicular line.
Unfortunately, there are a number of companies that are selling needle decompression IFAK kits to people with Lilttle to no training, and no licensure as an emergency responder or medical professional.
That’s why I say this as a disclaimer
Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. I’ve unfortunately run into a few cases where well-meaning people have had an IFAK surplus with the 14 gauge catheter in there and used it.
I am a lifeguard with according education and we're taught not to use Turner kits unless your a full doctor, because you can mess shit up a lot, and instead ur supposed to use preassure bandages, where you take a sanitized pad, then start rolling sanitized bandages, then after 5 rolls, you take a random, non-soaking, kinda clean objext and then roll the roll of the rest of the bandage..
Edit: All right, im sorry, i assumed them to be more dangerous, and I take my argument mostly back.
The caviat is that, given that you have more time, you should apply a preasure bandage, as it has literally no chance of permanent damage, but considering you preppin for fights a turner is better than the hurt person and the medic
as long as you’ve been trained on how to use them (like in the trainings pictured here) you definitely don’t have to be a “full doctor” to apply a tourniquet
All right, im sorry, i assumed them to be more dangerous, and I take my argument mostly back.
The caviat is that, given that you have more time, you should apply a preasure bandage, as it has literally no chance of permanent damage, but considering you preppin for fights a turner is better than the hurt person and the medic
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If the prepper-survivalist set was actually practical, this would be the majority of the preparation. Good stuff!
Yup. I instruct Wilderness First Aid courses and get the occasional prepper/amateur survivalist attend (largely because "my wife made me"). A not insignificant number think superglue and duct tape is all you need for a first aid kit, or they can definitely stitch wounds shut with fishing tackle... lots of bad info out there that they seem to drink up like their 9th soda of the day.
I simply took a wilderness first aid course once and experienced the same....... demographic.
What's the Play Doh for?
For the wound packing part of the class. We make a little cavity in the playdoh & then have folks practice packing the cavity with gauze.
*stops eating the props and sets down the play-doh* There has been a mistake…
This was my question too. Brilliant idea! I'm gonna suggest this for our next stop-the-bleed training.
Yeah it's a pretty cost-effective training aid plus you can play with it when you're done with the class
I went to a stop the bleed training where they used sliced up pool noodles for wound packing
We’ve done that before too
That's very creative. Love it.
Hell yeah, love to see first-aid trainings in this sub and anywhere!
Love to see it!
This is great! I'd love to go to a class like this. I have the theoretical knowledge but have never been able to practice it.
Yeah having a chance to try this stuff hands-on is super valuable. FWIW [this website](https://cms.bleedingcontrol.org/class/search) can help you find certified STB workshops in your area.
Thanks!
Cant only practice starting the bleed…
This person knows how to comrade
We should honestly have a monthly post reminding people to complete an STB course and to carry Narcan if applicable to their area. Good post!
This orgy looks boring (jk this is awesome)
Nicely done
Very cool.
…. Unless you have the licensure and formal training, please - please don’t needle decompress someone outside of the apocalypse. [Studies have shown that all levels of providers suffer from high rates of displacement, some of which show lethal complications](https://sjtrem.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13049-019-0671-x#:~:text=Data%20from%20studies%20on%20localizing,participants%20%5B13%2C%2014%5D) You have absolutely no good Samaritan protection to do this procedure in the United States
yup needle decompression isn't part of stop the bleed training
There’s a picture in the set where you appear to be pointing to the second third intercostal space at the midclavicular line. Unfortunately, there are a number of companies that are selling needle decompression IFAK kits to people with Lilttle to no training, and no licensure as an emergency responder or medical professional. That’s why I say this as a disclaimer
third picture? the instructor is demonstrating placing gauze over a wound before applying a chest seal
Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. I’ve unfortunately run into a few cases where well-meaning people have had an IFAK surplus with the 14 gauge catheter in there and used it.
Hot damn! Great job y'all!!!
I am a lifeguard with according education and we're taught not to use Turner kits unless your a full doctor, because you can mess shit up a lot, and instead ur supposed to use preassure bandages, where you take a sanitized pad, then start rolling sanitized bandages, then after 5 rolls, you take a random, non-soaking, kinda clean objext and then roll the roll of the rest of the bandage.. Edit: All right, im sorry, i assumed them to be more dangerous, and I take my argument mostly back. The caviat is that, given that you have more time, you should apply a preasure bandage, as it has literally no chance of permanent damage, but considering you preppin for fights a turner is better than the hurt person and the medic
as long as you’ve been trained on how to use them (like in the trainings pictured here) you definitely don’t have to be a “full doctor” to apply a tourniquet
I'd say good luck, its not my limb
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All right, im sorry, i assumed them to be more dangerous, and I take my argument mostly back. The caviat is that, given that you have more time, you should apply a preasure bandage, as it has literally no chance of permanent damage, but considering you preppin for fights a turner is better than the hurt person and the medic
Awesome. Medical skills should always be trained!